What If Daemon Was Hand Of The King? (House Of The Dragon)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @byro.
    @byro. Месяц назад +66

    Yoo lets go I was the one who suggested this video, I appreciate you for making it Empyrean

  • @baswar
    @baswar Месяц назад +49

    I think it be a disaster lol. Part of the problem with the Hightowers is they are prepared to do the boring work of ruling. Its partly why their house is rich. The Targs rately do and Deamon especially isn't. Its
    the accountants and managers having more influence than the trust fund babies

  • @dereckpadilla9352
    @dereckpadilla9352 Месяц назад +52

    I'm waiting on the what if daemon had a son with Rhea Royce of the Maegor the good part 3, please!!!!!!! 🥺

  • @matheusdemello2323
    @matheusdemello2323 Месяц назад +23

    What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a Lover instead of Harwin Strong?
    What if Lucerys lost his eye *instead* of Aemond?
    What if both Lucerys & Aemond died in episode 10?
    What if Aemma Arryn last child, Baelon was born a girl that married Aegon-II?
    What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death?
    What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator?
    What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Borros Baratheon?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenyra Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
    ✅ *What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?* ✅
    What if Rhaenyra married Otto after Alicent married Viserys?

    • @yunopepper76
      @yunopepper76 Месяц назад +3

      Like 5 of these are impossible and would take characters to act out of character

    • @matheusdemello2323
      @matheusdemello2323 Месяц назад +2

      @@yunopepper76
      You must be new to this channel then.

  • @SpongeWatches
    @SpongeWatches Месяц назад +6

    Daemon would dismiss Otto at the earliest opportunity

  • @xx_toasterreturns_xx1166
    @xx_toasterreturns_xx1166 Месяц назад +29

    What if Aerys never went to Duskendale?

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 Месяц назад

      Well, he'll be a jerkwad but not a crazy jerkwad. Rebellion still happens cuz he's still a jerk.

    • @pckrichards7980
      @pckrichards7980 Месяц назад +1

      He’d definitely be less crazy!

    • @dominikmair3291
      @dominikmair3291 Месяц назад +3

      @@ifeeldead463Nah, him just being a jerk makes it unlikely that he kills Ned’s Dad and brother which was the main catalyst

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 Месяц назад

      ​@@dominikmair3291 nah, I'd argued it'd still happen but slower. Aerys is still a spiteful jerk, after all. Who's to say he doesnt piss off the wrong person and oops! Rebellion happens

  • @jamesw7072
    @jamesw7072 Месяц назад +4

    When I think about the two roles or titles Daemond wanted, the "heir" and the "hand" it makes me think about the roles of vice president and chief of staff in the US government. The vice president is simply an heir if the president falls but has no real power and the president's chief of staff is their right hand doing many of the mundane things of overseeing his people but can be dismissed at the snap of a finger like Vicerys did Otto. Getting rid of a rightful heir or elected vice president is more complicated.

  • @efrent-vr3bm
    @efrent-vr3bm Месяц назад +3

    If Viserys married Laena, perhaps Otto will push for Alicent to marry Daemon and support his claim as his brother's heir
    Suggestion - What if Balerion didn't die in 94aC and was alive and healthy when the Dance began

  • @jaybirdjetwings7516
    @jaybirdjetwings7516 Месяц назад +16

    What if obyren won hie trial by combat

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 Месяц назад +4

    Deamon is a great enforcer for visearys, and visearys is the nice likeable guy to make a good king but neither has the political mind for a Hand of the King
    So if the city watch commander became part of the small council Deamon would have a role to play Visearys needs

  • @dragondotell701
    @dragondotell701 Месяц назад +4

    What if Renly supported Stannis's claim to the throne. Awesome video BTW!

  • @darkphoenix3347
    @darkphoenix3347 Месяц назад +5

    Technically rhaenyra is aemma and viserys second born because before rhaenyra was born aemma gave birth to a son who but that son died in the cradle. Rhaenyra was viserys first child to be born healthy.

  • @christopherdavis3424
    @christopherdavis3424 Месяц назад +3

    Another great HOTD What If!!! Here are some other suggestions:
    What if Aegon fled to Dragonstone and told Rhaenyra of Viserys death?
    What if Viserys refused to remarry?
    What if Rhaena claimed Vhagar on Driftmark?
    What if Rhaenyra didn’t take the moon tea and had a bastard child with Criston Cole?
    Edit: Oh, almost forgot…What if Daemon had a son part 3?! I need the third installment of Lord Maegor Royce!!

    • @ifeeldead463
      @ifeeldead463 Месяц назад

      - Aegon would defimitely be kept prisoner/hostage until the greens give Rhaenyra the crown. Allicent is getting a panic attack and Otto has to diplomat his way through this with Aemmond and Daeron as back up/brute force
      - No Greens. Rhaenyra might still sneaks out with Daemon and sleeps with Cole so she still marries Laenor. Otto still reports this, mostly cuz it's just him doing his job (dude can only gain getting Daemon in trouble here). Allicent has no idea what's going on but is still suspicious. Joffrey still dies and Cole then dies cuz the hell can Allicent do about an execution?
      - Blacks get an advantage with Vhagar on their side. Aemmond probably settles with Vermithor here, still a threat but not as much as Vhagar. Rhaena goes with Rhaenys to Rook's Rest and they both manage to kill Aegon and Sunfyre (like Meleys was bad enough but now you add Vhagar? Ye rip Sunfyre). Not sure about Aemmond and Vermithor cuz Vermithor is no slouch. Might be a Tumbleton situation, maybe not.
      - Considering Cole is Dornish and seems to have a tan plus I think Targaryen-Dornish children still have a chance of having white hair, the kid could be passed off as a white-passing Velaryon, regardless if their hair is white or not. Cole likely knows the kid's his but wants nothing to do with them. Dance still happens.

  • @billdean96
    @billdean96 Месяц назад +3

    what if viserys had a bastard son before he married his wife?

  • @DionysusJPower
    @DionysusJPower Месяц назад +8

    Also, the next part of Rhaenys burns the greens, please!

  • @jewellet.9016
    @jewellet.9016 Месяц назад

    every time i get a notification from empyreanspeaks i get hyped!!! great vid as always 🔥

  • @DionysusJPower
    @DionysusJPower Месяц назад +6

    What if it was Rhaenyra vs Aegon at Rook's Rest (for some reason Aemond and Rhaenys weren't involved) The Gold vs the Yellow, let's go!

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul Месяц назад

      I'd bet on Sunfyre but a mutual kill is most likely.

  • @leongwaikit6658
    @leongwaikit6658 8 дней назад

    Daemon becomes the Hand of the King be like; No one bullies my brother but me.

  • @215770678
    @215770678 Месяц назад +11

    What if Elia Martell died giving birth to Aegon Targaryen?

    • @Twisty._.
      @Twisty._. Месяц назад

      I dont think there would be really large impact.
      Martells wouldnt despise Lannisters as much soo they wouldnt plot putting Targaryens back to the throne and Oberynn wouldnt be Tyrion´s champion in Trial by Combat.
      But I might be wrong, its a while since I watched the show or read the books.

    • @lttropical
      @lttropical Месяц назад

      @@Twisty._.It would make rheagar single. He would be free to publicly marry Lyanna, and the rebellion would likely not happen, Rheagar marrying Lyanna officially and publicly would probably mean he’d overthrow his father so Ned’s father and brother would live.

    • @Twisty._.
      @Twisty._. Месяц назад

      @@lttropical Wasnt Lyanna already supposed to marry Robert?

    • @عمر-ل9ع2ي
      @عمر-ل9ع2ي Месяц назад

      @@Twisty._.it wouldn’t be a problem to cancel a betrothal. The issue with what rhaegar did was that he was already married and took lyanna. If ellia died then lyanna’s father wouldn’t be against breaking the engagement with Robert and marrying her to the prince since Rickard was said to be an ambitious man

  • @mandoslore
    @mandoslore Месяц назад

    This is a What If that came after I rewatched s1ep7. What if Laenor didn't leave? Laenor speaks about how he'll do better and genuinely stay at Rhaenyra's side, she takes that and agrees. It looks better if he's still there to say the boys are his (despite how obvious it is). Daemon would probably still stay on Dragonstone bc he loves Rhaenyra and the match between the strong boys and his daughters would happen earlier. Rhaenyra still weds Daemon in a Valyrian ceremony and maybe thinks of herself as Aegon I 2.0. She now has two grown dragons with war experienced riders. It helps her because it's one less dragonseed to train. Laenor's relationship with Daemon would be strained bc he did sleep with Rhaenyra at Laena's funeral afterall. Alyn & Addam meeting Laenor during a war would also be interesting.

  • @VersieKilgannon
    @VersieKilgannon Месяц назад

    I'm a simple girl. I see you post a video, I give it a like before I've even watched the video because I know the content will be 10/10 👏

  • @aymebeth5044
    @aymebeth5044 Месяц назад

    Have you thought of a "What if there was communication in HOTD" like for example if Alicent told Rhenera about Ottos wants for her to be with the king would that even change anything? Or if Rheynes was in on the plot with Laenor, Daemon, and Rhenera? (Im so sorry for the mispelling)

  • @travisgames6608
    @travisgames6608 Месяц назад

    What if Viserys was a competent King?
    This starts after the Great Council that names Viserys as King. After he and Rhaenys manage to quell Lord Corlys and Daemon's anger, Viserys suggests a betrothel between Rhaenyra and Laenor. Laenor is to be brought to Court as Viserys' squire. Rhaenyra is still Viserys' cupbearer and Lord Corlys is Master of Ships.
    Fastforward to Baelon and Aemma's death. Viserys decides to name Rhaenyra his heir, instead of Otto suggesting it. He doesn't mourn as long as he does in canon.
    Daemon still gets dismissed.
    Viserys creates a new title for Rhaenyra and all future heirs: Crowned Heir. The Crowned Heir is given equal power to that of the Hand. If anyone goes against the Heir, then that is automatic treason.
    The War in the Stepstones still occurs. Viserys takes Rhaenyra's suggestion and sends their dragon riders (Daemon, Laenor, and Rhaenyra). The war is wrapped up quickly and Daemon is still named King of the Stepstones.
    Upon their return, Daemon kneels to Viserys. Viserys strips Daemon of his title as King and instead name him as Lord Paramount of the Stepstones and Warden of the Narrow Sea. Lord Corlys and House Valaryan is named the Protectors of the Narrow Sea (basically a Vanguard of sorts).
    Daemon is also named the King's Fist. Giving him control of the realm's military during war, deal with treason, enforcer of the Crown's Laws, and to create a united Crownland military.
    This creates a tiarchy of power between the Hand (in charge of political matters), the Fist (in charge of the military), and the Heir (able to command both military and political matters). All under the Crown. If the King/Queen is unable or unfit to rule, then the Crowned Heir becomes the new ruler. If the King/Queen (Crown) is deemed unfit by the triarchy and refuses to step down, then a Great Council will be held and the Lords of the Realm must vote on removing the Crown and installing the Heir or not.
    Rhaenys is named Hand and remove Otto as Hand.
    Rhaenyra and Laenor marry; followed by Viserys and Alicent (still marry except later in the timeline).
    Daemon marries Laena and the two build up the Stepstones with all of the poor from Flea Bottom comscripted to help build the keeps and forts in the Stepstones. Hedge Knights are elected to become Landed Lords. Viserys orders the building of three great forts named after the Conqueror's dragons. The Stepstones now serve as a gateway into Westeros from the Southern isles and Essos. The Valaryans control passage from the Narrow Sea and charges tolls, Daemon's branch House does the same with the Stepstones and offers more amenities (lodging, resupply posts, merchants, entertainment, etc..)
    There's more, except i have to get back to work lol.

  • @miranda8972
    @miranda8972 24 дня назад

    IN WORLD WHERE LOYALTIES CHANGE LIKE DAYS OF THE WEEK, HAVING A LOYAL VALIDATED DAEMON WOULD BE THE BEST ASSET OF VISERYS.

  • @nikkydalby7126
    @nikkydalby7126 Месяц назад

    12:21 if Daemon had been there for his brother, especially after Aemma’s death, I wonder if he would have felt the need to lean on Alicent & then marry her!!

  • @N3wman2992
    @N3wman2992 Месяц назад +2

    What if Viseryes don’t give the greens dragons
    What if Rhaenyra was made hand of the king
    What if Rhaenyra went to rooks rest part 2
    What if daemon had a son part three
    What Viseryes married Alicent and Laena

  • @alphapython2475
    @alphapython2475 Месяц назад +1

    What if princess daenerys (daughter of king J and queen A) claimed a dragon and survived the shivers?

  • @GodOfChaos26
    @GodOfChaos26 Месяц назад +9

    What if Jon and Dany married at the beginning of season 8?

    • @christinestevenson4304
      @christinestevenson4304 Месяц назад +1

      I liked the leaked script where they had twins, but she died in childbirth, and jon took drogon and killed cersie but he died and took them out! Tyrion and messandei raised the babies and got them ready to rule!

    • @GodOfChaos26
      @GodOfChaos26 Месяц назад +1

      @@christinestevenson4304I remember seeing that too, that is a bit better than what we got but I would still make alterations personally.

  • @shantanusinghrajput3123
    @shantanusinghrajput3123 Месяц назад +6

    What if Tywin Lannister lived

    • @nikkydalby7126
      @nikkydalby7126 Месяц назад

      If he had lived past Tyrion killing him? Or just living longer in general? Cuz there’s that theory that Tywin was poisoned by Oberyn & was going to die soon even if Tyrion hadn’t have killed him that night

    • @shantanusinghrajput3123
      @shantanusinghrajput3123 Месяц назад

      @nikkydalby7126 "Great point! The idea of Oberyn poisoning Tywin is fascinating and would fit with his desire for revenge. But if Tywin had survived longer, I imagine he would’ve continued to shape the Seven Kingdoms with his ruthless efficiency, perhaps even attempting to rein in Cersei’s reckless decisions. His influence could have delayed or changed events like Cersei’s rise to power and the eventual downfall of the Lannisters. It’s intriguing to think how much his presence could have altered the game."

  • @DarkApostleNoek
    @DarkApostleNoek Месяц назад

    I do wonder though if while Hand Daemon gets bored of it, just all the little bits of ruling that people don't think of.
    WHAT IF...
    Myrcella survived being Poisoned?
    Euron killed Balon before Theon's first time going to Pike?
    Ramsey didn't hit Rickon?
    Margaery escaped the Wildfire?

  • @SirIgnacio
    @SirIgnacio Месяц назад

    0:00 the world go down to the hell XD

  • @nathanielstacy4488
    @nathanielstacy4488 Месяц назад

    The scheming of Otto would likely have seen Alicent married to Daimen.

  • @angelyeager210
    @angelyeager210 Месяц назад

    For sure agree that Daemon isn't really in love with Rhaenyra because there's that one scene in House of the dragon where Damon goes something about his brother's throne and Rhaenyra says "my throne, Daemon, mine."
    There's your proof in the pudding

  • @Jacaerys1
    @Jacaerys1 Месяц назад +1

    Daemon isn’t in love with Rhaenyra who he gives his life for? Viserys take his tongue for that.

  • @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
    @fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 Месяц назад

    What if Viserys had claimed another dragon after Balerion's death (say Vermithor or Silverwing). I heard claiming a dragon changes a person, like with Rhaena T who was said to be a shy kid and transformed into a more confident one once she claimed Dreamfyre.

    • @isakpalsson9012
      @isakpalsson9012 Месяц назад

      I dont think anyone had ever claimed a second dragon, even after the death of their first one

  • @Progamerr_06
    @Progamerr_06 Месяц назад

    What if jaehaerys allowed his younger children to try and claim dragons aswell.

  • @partyrj1364
    @partyrj1364 Месяц назад

    You see he may have a son but again his first born Rhaenyra as heir , he has never Changed his mind about that no matter what even when he had son with Allison so that part in this time has time would still be the same and otto well him not being the hand of the king ,yes that takes away his power but he would still
    Go against the king and try to over throw him to have power it’s the cycle of power on top

  • @215770678
    @215770678 Месяц назад +1

    What if Rhaeneys Targaryen and Elia Martell survived the sacking of Kings Landing?

  • @nikkydalby7126
    @nikkydalby7126 Месяц назад

    I wonder if Daemon was Hand of the King & unmarried (& if Viserys refused to get married after Aemma’s death) if Otto would push for Alicent to marry Daemon!

  • @SpongeWatches
    @SpongeWatches Месяц назад +1

    Should’ve just made daemon hand AFTER Strongs death

  • @jessicacaraballo645
    @jessicacaraballo645 Месяц назад

    Who corlys really go through with the wedding with viserys leprosy... By the time she'd be old enough to marry he may be visibly ill

  • @sweet1661
    @sweet1661 Месяц назад +1

    What if Bronn lost Tyrions trial by combat in the vale 🙏🏼

    • @JABN97
      @JABN97 Месяц назад

      Bronn dies.
      Tyrion gets executed.
      The Vale clans don’t join Tywin’s army, leading to slightly different outcome at the Battle of the Green Fork.
      Because Tyrion is no longer alive, Kevan instead gets sent to rule as acting Hand in King’s Landing.
      He is a more respected and experienced ruler, and so gets more shit done more easily, though he is disgusted with Joffrey’s and Cercei’s stupidity and malice. However: he is not as creative as Tyrion is, so no wildfire trap for Stannis’s fleet, and the attempt to free Jaime by hiding a thief & a murderer among the guards of the envoy Frey isn’t made.
      Also: Myrcella isn’t send to Dorne and the offer to Catelyn Stark to trade Sansa for Jaime isn’t made, so Jaime isn’t set free and the Karstarks don’t abandon Robb.
      This might mean that Stannis takes the City of Kings Landing, but not the Red Keep, before Tywin’s reinforcements arrive. From there on, I’m afraid to make predictions

  • @devourlordasmodeus
    @devourlordasmodeus Месяц назад

    Honestly if you know about ruling, the ONLY qualifications you should cinsider for the people close to you is loyalty, if the realm burns while I am on the throne I am still on the throne of the realm prospers while I am dead what does this matter to me?

  • @ElijahWitherspoon-v9d
    @ElijahWitherspoon-v9d Месяц назад +1

    What if alicent had slit Rhaenryas wrist instead of scaring her

  • @savannahingersoll7783
    @savannahingersoll7783 24 дня назад

    What if Daemon Targaryen was born a girl?
    What if Alicent had dark haired children?
    What if Rhaenyra married Otto?
    What if Laenor and Rhaenyra had legitimate children?
    What if Viserys abdicated the throne to Rhaenyra as soon as she had Jace?

  • @makanakamavedzenge3008
    @makanakamavedzenge3008 Месяц назад

    What if Visery's had a bastard and it was bloodraven

  • @arzupekdemir63
    @arzupekdemir63 Месяц назад +1

    What if Maegor was the first born?

  • @jordanlane870
    @jordanlane870 Месяц назад

    What if the tragedy at summer hall never happened

  • @maxford-gunningham138
    @maxford-gunningham138 14 дней назад

    10 YEARRRRRRRRS

  • @jaysus4316
    @jaysus4316 Месяц назад

    What if Robin Aryn was a ward to Stannis.

  • @chandlersnyder308
    @chandlersnyder308 Месяц назад

    what if Robb Stark won the War of the Five Kings

  • @215770678
    @215770678 Месяц назад +6

    What if Daenerys Targaryen was pregnant with Jon Snow’s child in Season 8?

    • @33chibi
      @33chibi Месяц назад

      Ngl my stoned ass thought that said with Daemon Targaryen. I pictured it in my head for a moment with daemon and Jon standing next to each other and Jon’s got his hand on daemons belly like the cliche pics 😂

    • @215770678
      @215770678 Месяц назад

      @@33chibi ur silly 😜😅

  • @BowiePhillips-j2w
    @BowiePhillips-j2w Месяц назад +1

    What if Sansa pushed Joffrey

  • @John14710
    @John14710 Месяц назад

    Yes pls

  • @johnhill2353
    @johnhill2353 Месяц назад

    What if Alisent high tower was male.

  • @unclet9825
    @unclet9825 Месяц назад

    First