The idea that Urban Meyer would even remotely consider the Michigan State job is all time LOL. IF he comes back to coaching, it’s going to be at an elite program with a roster that is ready to roll. Even in the transfer portal era, Michigan State is a 3-4 year rebuild. That roster is MAC worthy.
...or, just maybe Urban might want to continue beating up on Jimmy's boys. I find if funny how all the UM fans seem to think they know Urban so well. Money talks!
You see what a joke this is? If the situation was reversed, the only thing they would be talking about is how bad MSU was going to pummel UofM. But here we are, ignoring the game completely. The MSU game as always can only hurt UofM, it will never be a positive for UofM. How is MSU a better overall program than Nebraska, Wisconsin, or Iowa? They are are right there arround 6 or 7th in the conference before we add Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington... all of which are better programs than MSU.
There are two issues with Mike and Rico's logic. #1. Money. They act like Michigan State has more money than every other program in America. Plenty of other universities can offer coaches equal to more money than MSU. #2. This is not MSU's fault perse but the state of Michigan is in flyover country. You have to give somebody a real good reason to slum it there if they can get another coaching job on either east or west coasts, Florida, and/or Texas. Notre Dame? Sure. Ohio State? Sure. But to voluntary leave a good state/part of the county and move to there? Nah.
MSU is among the top 12 largest revenue generating schools in existence. Dont believe me? Look it up. Not to mention, two of MSU's largest supporters are on the Forbes Top-25 list of wealthiest Americans. Bother are MSU alumnus. What else is there to say?
as a michigan fan, i dont want MSU to fall into ultimate obscurity. you guys keep us honest almost every year. i dont want this famous rivalry to fall. its historic, its emotional, its FUN. put all the hatred aside, and realize its 2 teams who want to be the best they can be in that moment.
Valenti, like most MSU fans have a recency bias. They all think that 2008 to 2019 is the norm. When in fact 08-19 was unique. Historically mSu has had 2 periods where they dominated Michigan. The 1950/60s before Bo , and the 08-19 stretch. Both periods coincided with Michigan down periods. MSU is not a top 25 program historically, and in this current NIL and big ten expansion climate isn’t a desirable job.
Penn State and Michigan State are completely different animals. The # 1 school for football players in Pennsylvania is Penn State Michigan State has a fan base , but it's not nearly as strong as Penn State
Penn State and Michigan State aren’t that much different if you look at the last couple decades as far as accomplishments. One has a bigger stadium and recruits better. But on field success is similar. MSU would have a bigger fan base if they were more successful in the 90’s and won more consistently. But they already have a big fan base. TV numbers don’t lie.
Does Valenti still think Michigan fans shouldn’t show up on Saturday? Frankly, I hope batteries are thrown, because that’s so on-brand. Valenti was basically asking for this.
Michigan fan here. MSU should be consistent 7-8 win team, 6 wins the floor in a down year. Michigan St is not a B10 championship caliber team outside of a few anomaly years.
as a Michigan fan, I thought when Tuck got there he had the mentality to be a 9-10 win pop us in the mouth once in a while type of coach...he was a fraud and 1 lucky RB pull from the protal got him alot of money. That said a former player who has the fire for the program that maybe green at the beginning but grow into the position. one young and passionate about his school will up recruiting alone. bring back the high 3's and low 4's you were getting and mold them to a defensive system and implement a power spread system on offense
U of M Fan here....Valenti - you are correct on this situation...Not sure why MSU would settle - They are a Top 25 Program, with the facilities to back it up - You are correct, correct, correct - Have to get this Hire right with the addition of the teams coming to the B1G
Until this program start recruiting and playing 4 and 5 star quarterbacks who can make plays with his feet, it's not going to matter who the coach is. Too many Spartan fans are in denial
Michigan fan here. I'm slightly below you on this one Valenti, but I absolutely agree with your logic. You have a top-25 program, facilities, being in a super-power conference, you hit all that on the head. Here is where I differ though. You have programs like Washington and USC coming in to your conference. Do you have to play them every year? No. But they still bring more power into the Big Ten. If i went straight off of your metric without the PAC schools, Michigan State is, in my opinion, ahead of Penn State at #3 in the conference. But Washington and USC now push Michigan State down to #5, plus Mel Tugger drops you down to #6 alone, just because of how much wool he pulled over everyone's eyes and how much money he stole from the school and the alumni. I say Michigan State is an average 7.5 win team now. I also think Michigan State will retread a washed out coach, like Nebraska is doing with Rhule, and Rutgers is doing with bringing back Schiano. If I were an upstart coordinator, or a head coach on the rise in a smaller school, I'd steer as clear as I could of Michigan State. Their leadership is garbage, I think Haller is a joke, and I think Michigan State is going to fall into a hole that will take them a LONG time to get out of, and they'll need a reincarnation of what Dantonio did for that program to get out of it.
Michigan State University is one of the largest university programs in the entire U.S.. They have a rich history of success in multiple sports programs including football. Over the years they have attracted a huge fan base and their events boast great attendance records. MSU has outstanding facilities and they have enormous sports revenue support. There is No Reason why Spartan Football should not be reaching for the stars and focusing their efforts and their revenue on building a football program that is a serious, top ranked contender in the Big Ten every single year!!!!!
Shoot for the moon. MSU has the money, the problem is a top coach may want to hold out for a program that already practically recruits itself. Michigan State has had a few too many black eyes lately, but if the administration can make a convincing case both with their pocketbook and reassurances that a new coach will be given several seasons to right the ship and get recruiting where it needs to be. I'd look for good co-ordinators that are being taken seriously as potential future head coach prospects. Michigan's Sherrone Moore keeps getting mentioned as a future head coach. I don't know if he'd go straight to the enemy of the program he's currently at, but just a similar principle. As far as coaching head coaches themselves, Jedd Fisch at Arizona is an interesting one. That team was bottom of the PAC12 and they're now losing games to the top of the conference by only one score. Lost to an SEC team in OT. May not sound great just yet, but compared to where that program was when he got there, it's a substantial turnaround. Fisch helped co-ordinate some of the highest scoring NFL games when he was at the Rams. He also was Michigan's QB coach in 2016, he made Wilton Speight seem competent. That's saying something because even when he was here, I don't think anyone viewed the kid as anything special even within the program at the time. But he worked well with Fisch on a personal level and took Ohio State to double OT that year... Fisch left after the 2016 season and Michigan literally could not throw the ball for most of 2017. It was bad. That's where they started to run the ball 90% of the time. Might be a bit if an under the radar pick, but as a Michigan fan, his absence was sorely felt for a couple seasons after he left. He's a very good offensive mind and I think he's now starting to prove his mettle as a program rebuilder at Arizona.
Fisch was Co-oc at the Rams when they beat the Chiefs 54-51. Definitely one of the highest scoring games of recent memory in the NFL by both teams in a game.
The caliber of college teams is who can you convince to come? If MSU takes a MAC coach people know that's our ceiling. If we convinced Saban to come back (never going to happen, before y'all pounce on me), then we'd be talked about on every broadcast. Luke Fickell turning MSU down and going to Wisconsin is a black eye. The question becomes whether theyre all flash and no substance. My expectation is that MSU lands another Mel, a power 5 coach that is out of their depth at their current program, dying to buy themselves a few more years of "building" and take the check. The fanbase is happy for two years until we realize we again never built anything.
Mike Elko at Duke is a rising star that might listen to an offer from MSU for the right price. MSU has a higher ceiling consistently than Duke and values football more. Same situation for Lance Leipold at Kansas. He’s doing an amazing job. Clark Lea at Vanderbilt is not the same level yet, but he’s also doing a respectable job turning that program in a positive direction from absolute zero. I think MSU should make Mark Stoops say no first, though. Kentucky is what it is. He might be ready for a new challenge. He’s a good recruiter in Big Ten country and developer of talent.
@@Airgeniumno Fickell told them no and they offered him twice I believe. He didn’t want to leave Cincy at the time then he bolted for the better version of MSU. Msu and Wiscy are the same type of program but Barry Alvarez turned them into a true top25 program for the past 30 years. Msu is on the outside somewhere around the 30-40 range despite the bullshit Mike claims. Msu is an8-4 level program that might punch up to a double digit win season once every 5-6 years.
MSU fans should be happy with a decent bowl game, and hope to keep it close with Michigan every year. That's the reality, that's what MSU is. The lucky success of the Dantonio years/KW3 has skewed MSU fans expectations. MSU has reverted back to their mean and now will be among the likes of Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, and Iowa if they're lucky.
so....MSU was lucky for how many years in a row? How soon you forget the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke years. Not to mention your current coach has been suspended from games because he's a cheater...but that ok because he is a Michigan man.
Dantonio era was a anomaly. Yes they are a top 25 job . But a realistic expectation should be 8-9 months wins every year and a dark horse to win big ten. They should expect to beat 1 of the 3 every year between Michigan, PSU and OSU
Valenti says he doesn't want a buffoon. The word buffoon describes Meyer exactly. Meyer has been a clown for years. And you don't get to set aside all the BS that took place in Jacksonville.
MSU was never considered at top 25 job in 2008. The 2008-2015 run has MSU thinking they are elite. Starting next year. You’re the 8th best team every year behind the big 3, new pac12 and maybe ucla and Iowa
Those are realistic goals Mike has. To me they are better than what Wojo says and not quite what mike says. Basically Dantonio when Michigan has a COMPITENT coach competent meaning Carr or Harbaugh NOT Hoke or Dick Rod.
I think what you said is perfect....they aren't a top tier team...8-4 at best some.years....6-6 most years...their history dictates that until some proof changes that
@@alexbriggs3456 some things tho you can never escape in life...whether they like it or not they will always be little brother...not even bc of football..michigan is a juggernaut of a school in general, they can't avoid that
@@SR-hf3hx Nice way to slide a weak ass insult. Michigan is on a good run and one of the greatest in school history. That is literally about to come crashing down after this season and just be another team. You guys just get told you're pretty by everyone in the Detroit media on a daily basis and you eat it right up.
@@alexbriggs3456 sorry to tell you little brother no matter what happens on the football field...you'll always be 2nd best that's life...I don't see all the rich kids from Boston nyc la running to east Lansing lol 2nd place deal with it
MSU has won the Big Ten 3 times since I came onto earth in the early 90s, and all of those were in a 5 year window during Michigan's worst era since the 60s, Penn State coming off of Sandusky and hammered with sanctions, and Ohio State in-between coaching regimes because of tattoos. Sparty was only elite when the rest of the conference was largely down. In reality, it's a 6-8 win program since the south was integrated. Borderline top 25. Nothing special, nothing horrible. Respectable. Now with Big Ten money and some rich boosters, a low A-tier, high B-tier coach like Mike Elko is realistic and a good hire.
Typical wolverine comment. Neglecting the fact Michigan is winning during the weakest big ten the last few years 😂 you didn’t graduate high school for sure
@@ericstoppels9527 In 2021 Michigan won the Big Ten despite OSU and MSU being 11 win top 10 teams. In 2022 Michigan won the Big Ten despite OSU and Penn State being 11 win top 10 teams.
@@mgoboski MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team and undefeated OSU team. So the argument they won titles in a down big ten doesn’t translate. Meanwhile Michigan schedules the easiest schedule possible and just has to beat mediocre PSU and OSU teams en route to playing a horrible big ten west. Try again high school drop out
I have an idea for Sparty for a coach. What would you say to reach out to Rich Rod? He's a good coach and he was done dirty by the Michigan old school Michigan Man all hail all things Bo and he was turning the program around so he might be interested in coaching against Michigan
I agree with Mike. We should always aim and be a 8-12 win team year in, year out. This was one of the faults of Coach D. He went .500 football half of his 13 year career. MSU should be like a Mark Richt Georgia type of team. Solid 8-10 wins every season.
MSU is a top 25 school. They should drop a bag of money on an up and coming coach from a power five school ( Duke, Missouri, or blow a boat load to try to grab Freeman from Notre Dame). The problem is, MSU never swings the big boy stick and just acts like a top 75 school trying to consistently make a bowl game
I'd argue they swung the big boy stick by giving Tucker the bag 2 years ago when they were on cloud 9. As a Michigan grad/fan, I think the best thing to do is go all in on NIL as much as possible rather than just throwing the bag at a coach
@Mmmmmm_____67779 Tucker was a desperation hire when Dantonio left them late after all the other good coaches got hired. MSU paid Tucker after his big initial season so he wouldn't get poached. Another desperation move. MSU should just go out like a top 25 school and drink someone else's milkshake. Just because they can
No there not half the time since I've seen them they're mediocre at best half the time I thought you were coming around with Dantonio but you flushed down the drain
The idea that Urban Meyer would even remotely consider the Michigan State job is all time LOL. IF he comes back to coaching, it’s going to be at an elite program with a roster that is ready to roll. Even in the transfer portal era, Michigan State is a 3-4 year rebuild. That roster is MAC worthy.
...or, just maybe Urban might want to continue beating up on Jimmy's boys. I find if funny how all the UM fans seem to think they know Urban so well. Money talks!
I’m not a UM fan
@@markangelou9368doubt that.
@@markangelou9368money talks. Tuck was the highest paid coach in football
@@mitchelbailhe5584Jimmy sexton is really good at his job
You see what a joke this is? If the situation was reversed, the only thing they would be talking about is how bad MSU was going to pummel UofM. But here we are, ignoring the game completely. The MSU game as always can only hurt UofM, it will never be a positive for UofM.
How is MSU a better overall program than Nebraska, Wisconsin, or Iowa? They are are right there arround 6 or 7th in the conference before we add Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington... all of which are better programs than MSU.
They are MSU grads, we're allowed to have an MSU show. There are plenty of people across the media space that will happily fondle UMs nuts for you
There are two issues with Mike and Rico's logic.
#1. Money. They act like Michigan State has more money than every other program in America. Plenty of other universities can offer coaches equal to more money than MSU.
#2. This is not MSU's fault perse but the state of Michigan is in flyover country. You have to give somebody a real good reason to slum it there if they can get another coaching job on either east or west coasts, Florida, and/or Texas. Notre Dame? Sure. Ohio State? Sure. But to voluntary leave a good state/part of the county and move to there? Nah.
MSU is among the top 12 largest revenue generating schools in existence. Dont believe me? Look it up. Not to mention, two of MSU's largest supporters are on the Forbes Top-25 list of wealthiest Americans. Bother are MSU alumnus. What else is there to say?
@@MSUSpartanFootball That other schools can offer just as much and aren't in bum fuck east lansing
Poverty Program
Lol green poverty
No one cares about Sharty. Fire these bums and put someone on the air who roots for a real team.
as a michigan fan, i dont want MSU to fall into ultimate obscurity. you guys keep us honest almost every year. i dont want this famous rivalry to fall. its historic, its emotional, its FUN. put all the hatred aside, and realize its 2 teams who want to be the best they can be in that moment.
I want msu to fall off the map for Larry Nasser and the dysfunction of leadership in EL.
Valenti, like most MSU fans have a recency bias. They all think that 2008 to 2019 is the norm. When in fact 08-19 was unique. Historically mSu has had 2 periods where they dominated Michigan. The 1950/60s before Bo , and the 08-19 stretch. Both periods coincided with Michigan down periods. MSU is not a top 25 program historically, and in this current NIL and big ten expansion climate isn’t a desirable job.
Penn State and Michigan State are completely different animals. The # 1 school for football players in Pennsylvania is Penn State Michigan State has a fan base , but it's not nearly as strong as Penn State
Winning creates a fan base
@@markheidema3699 Penn State was more popular in Pennsylvania even when Pitt was good in the 70's and 80's . Fan bases is built over generations.
@christophernash1846 MSU started their football program 2 years before PSU did so your "generations" comment doesnt hold water
Penn State and Michigan State aren’t that much different if you look at the last couple decades as far as accomplishments. One has a bigger stadium and recruits better. But on field success is similar. MSU would have a bigger fan base if they were more successful in the 90’s and won more consistently. But they already have a big fan base. TV numbers don’t lie.
Which program is more well-known nationally? MSU is a regional brand.
Does Valenti still think Michigan fans shouldn’t show up on Saturday? Frankly, I hope batteries are thrown, because that’s so on-brand.
Valenti was basically asking for this.
Michigan fan here. MSU should be consistent 7-8 win team, 6 wins the floor in a down year. Michigan St is not a B10 championship caliber team outside of a few anomaly years.
Michigan wants Sparty to get the Tommy Amaker football equivalent lol
You guys should be happy with any Mac coach
as a Michigan fan, I thought when Tuck got there he had the mentality to be a 9-10 win pop us in the mouth once in a while type of coach...he was a fraud and 1 lucky RB pull from the protal got him alot of money. That said a former player who has the fire for the program that maybe green at the beginning but grow into the position. one young and passionate about his school will up recruiting alone. bring back the high 3's and low 4's you were getting and mold them to a defensive system and implement a power spread system on offense
I Agree with Valenti 100% should be top 4 in big10 in no specific order most years if not every year…coming from a Michigan fan
U of M Fan here....Valenti - you are correct on this situation...Not sure why MSU would settle - They are a Top 25 Program, with the facilities to back it up - You are correct, correct, correct - Have to get this Hire right with the addition of the teams coming to the B1G
Wojo is a genius and a legend.
Until this program start recruiting and playing 4 and 5 star quarterbacks who can make plays with his feet, it's not going to matter who the coach is. Too many Spartan fans are in denial
Michigan fan here. I'm slightly below you on this one Valenti, but I absolutely agree with your logic. You have a top-25 program, facilities, being in a super-power conference, you hit all that on the head. Here is where I differ though. You have programs like Washington and USC coming in to your conference. Do you have to play them every year? No. But they still bring more power into the Big Ten. If i went straight off of your metric without the PAC schools, Michigan State is, in my opinion, ahead of Penn State at #3 in the conference. But Washington and USC now push Michigan State down to #5, plus Mel Tugger drops you down to #6 alone, just because of how much wool he pulled over everyone's eyes and how much money he stole from the school and the alumni. I say Michigan State is an average 7.5 win team now. I also think Michigan State will retread a washed out coach, like Nebraska is doing with Rhule, and Rutgers is doing with bringing back Schiano. If I were an upstart coordinator, or a head coach on the rise in a smaller school, I'd steer as clear as I could of Michigan State. Their leadership is garbage, I think Haller is a joke, and I think Michigan State is going to fall into a hole that will take them a LONG time to get out of, and they'll need a reincarnation of what Dantonio did for that program to get out of it.
Teams like Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana are going to get better. They getting 100 million too bro lol
Coach that MSU hires has to be like Deion Sanders and has enough flare to bridge the recruiting gap.
Michigan State University is one of the largest university programs in the entire U.S.. They have a rich history of success in multiple sports programs including football. Over the years they have attracted a huge fan base and their events boast great attendance records. MSU has outstanding facilities and they have enormous sports revenue support. There is No Reason why Spartan Football should not be reaching for the stars and focusing their efforts and their revenue on building a football program that is a serious, top ranked contender in the Big Ten every single year!!!!!
Amen. The facts speak for themselves.
Viewer ratings tell a different story.
Shoot for the moon. MSU has the money, the problem is a top coach may want to hold out for a program that already practically recruits itself. Michigan State has had a few too many black eyes lately, but if the administration can make a convincing case both with their pocketbook and reassurances that a new coach will be given several seasons to right the ship and get recruiting where it needs to be.
I'd look for good co-ordinators that are being taken seriously as potential future head coach prospects.
Michigan's Sherrone Moore keeps getting mentioned as a future head coach. I don't know if he'd go straight to the enemy of the program he's currently at, but just a similar principle.
As far as coaching head coaches themselves, Jedd Fisch at Arizona is an interesting one. That team was bottom of the PAC12 and they're now losing games to the top of the conference by only one score. Lost to an SEC team in OT. May not sound great just yet, but compared to where that program was when he got there, it's a substantial turnaround.
Fisch helped co-ordinate some of the highest scoring NFL games when he was at the Rams. He also was Michigan's QB coach in 2016, he made Wilton Speight seem competent. That's saying something because even when he was here, I don't think anyone viewed the kid as anything special even within the program at the time. But he worked well with Fisch on a personal level and took Ohio State to double OT that year...
Fisch left after the 2016 season and Michigan literally could not throw the ball for most of 2017. It was bad. That's where they started to run the ball 90% of the time.
Might be a bit if an under the radar pick, but as a Michigan fan, his absence was sorely felt for a couple seasons after he left.
He's a very good offensive mind and I think he's now starting to prove his mettle as a program rebuilder at Arizona.
Fisch was Co-oc at the Rams when they beat the Chiefs 54-51.
Definitely one of the highest scoring games of recent memory in the NFL by both teams in a game.
Was Dantonio good enough coach for MSU?
The caliber of college teams is who can you convince to come? If MSU takes a MAC coach people know that's our ceiling. If we convinced Saban to come back (never going to happen, before y'all pounce on me), then we'd be talked about on every broadcast. Luke Fickell turning MSU down and going to Wisconsin is a black eye. The question becomes whether theyre all flash and no substance. My expectation is that MSU lands another Mel, a power 5 coach that is out of their depth at their current program, dying to buy themselves a few more years of "building" and take the check. The fanbase is happy for two years until we realize we again never built anything.
Coulda sworn MSU turned him down, not him turning them down.
Mike Elko at Duke is a rising star that might listen to an offer from MSU for the right price. MSU has a higher ceiling consistently than Duke and values football more. Same situation for Lance Leipold at Kansas. He’s doing an amazing job. Clark Lea at Vanderbilt is not the same level yet, but he’s also doing a respectable job turning that program in a positive direction from absolute zero.
I think MSU should make Mark Stoops say no first, though. Kentucky is what it is. He might be ready for a new challenge. He’s a good recruiter in Big Ten country and developer of talent.
@@Airgeniumno Fickell told them no and they offered him twice I believe. He didn’t want to leave Cincy at the time then he bolted for the better version of MSU. Msu and Wiscy are the same type of program but Barry Alvarez turned them into a true top25 program for the past 30 years. Msu is on the outside somewhere around the 30-40 range despite the bullshit Mike claims. Msu is an8-4 level program that might punch up to a double digit win season once every 5-6 years.
Fake steelers fan. Fake 49ers fan
If Wisconsin could get Fickell (power 5 success TBD) then why can't MSU get a coach of high caliber
Because MSU has a trashy nasty reputation
@@misterceo2168As do many other schools. However, as you can see, that did not stop them.
Yes, losing.
Bring back the defense, run game, and high level 3rd down quarterback play
Rico is wearing the hat to support Izzo and this natty-contending team hahaha
Laughing stock of sports
MSU fans should be happy with a decent bowl game, and hope to keep it close with Michigan every year. That's the reality, that's what MSU is. The lucky success of the Dantonio years/KW3 has skewed MSU fans expectations. MSU has reverted back to their mean and now will be among the likes of Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, and Iowa if they're lucky.
so....MSU was lucky for how many years in a row? How soon you forget the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke years. Not to mention your current coach has been suspended from games because he's a cheater...but that ok because he is a Michigan man.
Dantonio era was a anomaly. Yes they are a top 25 job . But a realistic expectation should be 8-9 months wins every year and a dark horse to win big ten. They should expect to beat 1 of the 3 every year between Michigan, PSU and OSU
hey....Dr. Anderson called. Your appointment has been moved up.
Valenti says he doesn't want a buffoon. The word buffoon describes Meyer exactly. Meyer has been a clown for years. And you don't get to set aside all the BS that took place in Jacksonville.
MSU was never considered at top 25 job in 2008. The 2008-2015 run has MSU thinking they are elite. Starting next year. You’re the 8th best team every year behind the big 3, new pac12 and maybe ucla and Iowa
Well shyt....why play the games then? This will save a ton of money on travel expenses.
@@MSUSpartanFootball The same reason IIllinois, Minnesota, and Maryland play the game.
Those are realistic goals Mike has. To me they are better than what Wojo says and not quite what mike says. Basically Dantonio when Michigan has a COMPITENT coach competent meaning Carr or Harbaugh NOT Hoke or Dick Rod.
I think what you said is perfect....they aren't a top tier team...8-4 at best some.years....6-6 most years...their history dictates that until some proof changes that
@@SR-hf3hxagreed. They have potential to be better. Maybe even the top 10-15 school. They just need to act like it
@@alexbriggs3456 some things tho you can never escape in life...whether they like it or not they will always be little brother...not even bc of football..michigan is a juggernaut of a school in general, they can't avoid that
@@SR-hf3hx Nice way to slide a weak ass insult. Michigan is on a good run and one of the greatest in school history. That is literally about to come crashing down after this season and just be another team. You guys just get told you're pretty by everyone in the Detroit media on a daily basis and you eat it right up.
@@alexbriggs3456 sorry to tell you little brother no matter what happens on the football field...you'll always be 2nd best that's life...I don't see all the rich kids from Boston nyc la running to east Lansing lol 2nd place deal with it
MSU has won the Big Ten 3 times since I came onto earth in the early 90s, and all of those were in a 5 year window during Michigan's worst era since the 60s, Penn State coming off of Sandusky and hammered with sanctions, and Ohio State in-between coaching regimes because of tattoos. Sparty was only elite when the rest of the conference was largely down.
In reality, it's a 6-8 win program since the south was integrated. Borderline top 25. Nothing special, nothing horrible. Respectable. Now with Big Ten money and some rich boosters, a low A-tier, high B-tier coach like Mike Elko is realistic and a good hire.
Typical wolverine comment. Neglecting the fact Michigan is winning during the weakest big ten the last few years 😂 you didn’t graduate high school for sure
@@ericstoppels9527 In 2021 Michigan won the Big Ten despite OSU and MSU being 11 win top 10 teams. In 2022 Michigan won the Big Ten despite OSU and Penn State being 11 win top 10 teams.
@@ericstoppels9527mgoboski just bodied you 😂
@@jonjhon8491 he bodied me? What kind of language is this?
@@mgoboski MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team and undefeated OSU team. So the argument they won titles in a down big ten doesn’t translate. Meanwhile Michigan schedules the easiest schedule possible and just has to beat mediocre PSU and OSU teams en route to playing a horrible big ten west. Try again high school drop out
Join the Mac you could be 500 team perhaps
Yeah little brother that's your identity
Facts 💯💯💯
I have an idea for Sparty for a coach. What would you say to reach out to Rich Rod? He's a good coach and he was done dirty by the Michigan old school Michigan Man all hail all things Bo and he was turning the program around so he might be interested in coaching against Michigan
This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read all month.
We’ll be back at the top and intimidating teams when they step on the field with us in no time. It will be beautiful to see. GO GREEN!
I agree with Mike. We should always aim and be a 8-12 win team year in, year out. This was one of the faults of Coach D. He went .500 football half of his 13 year career. MSU should be like a Mark Richt Georgia type of team. Solid 8-10 wins every season.
MSU is a top 25 school. They should drop a bag of money on an up and coming coach from a power five school ( Duke, Missouri, or blow a boat load to try to grab Freeman from Notre Dame). The problem is, MSU never swings the big boy stick and just acts like a top 75 school trying to consistently make a bowl game
I'd argue they swung the big boy stick by giving Tucker the bag 2 years ago when they were on cloud 9. As a Michigan grad/fan, I think the best thing to do is go all in on NIL as much as possible rather than just throwing the bag at a coach
@Mmmmmm_____67779 Tucker was a desperation hire when Dantonio left them late after all the other good coaches got hired. MSU paid Tucker after his big initial season so he wouldn't get poached. Another desperation move. MSU should just go out like a top 25 school and drink someone else's milkshake. Just because they can
No there not half the time since I've seen them they're mediocre at best half the time I thought you were coming around with Dantonio but you flushed down the drain
You don't win like you think you do
Bullshit valenti
Ucla/usc/ore/wash are going to eliminate the competition gap for Michigan/osu and psu. It will no longer be the the big 2 little 10.
And with the 12 team playoff the B10 should send multiple teams annually