*UPDATED, SCROLL DOWN FOR BASKET VENDOR* I used the forum post below to get non-pressurised filter baskets. Sadly, the items in question have been removed. coffeegeekDOTcom/forums/espresso/machinemods/719963 However, my current non-pressurized double shot basket shown in the video I bought here (the europiccola post-1998 51mm): vanpommerenDOTnl/la-pavoni-2-kops-filterbakje-europiccola-professional-na-1998?search=Pavoni I see they have a SINGLE SHOT version too: vanpommerenDOTnl/la-pavoni-1-kops-filterbakje-europiccola-professional-na-1998?search=Pavoni I know the website is in Dutch but I am sure that if you contact in English them by email, they will guide you through the payment and shipment process> infoATvanpommerenDOTnl I have called them before on my purchase and they were very friendly. Shout out to instagram coffeelover sara331 for asking me about this 🙌
@@H99x2 heb de single zelf niet, maar ja denk vast van wel, omdat die korter is dan de dubble. Ik heb zelf alleen de dubble en die was een beetje te lang zonder aanpassing. Maar nadat je de plastic holder weghaalt, dan werkt het prima! (Sorry, mijn nederlands is niet meer zo goed!)
@@redfox05nl je Nederlands is prima! Ik heb de Single besteld. Deze past prima in de bestaande houder :) vergt alleen wat kracht om de basket erin te krijgen. thx for the reply anyways
Yaaaay I got so excited when I found this video!!!!! Such an amazing and informative video and I appreciate the tips you gave!!! I just got my machine and I'm so eager to level up. Thank you a million times! I'm hoping to order my second portafilter and making it bottomless the way you did it. I'd love to continue following your journey!
You are welcome Kaitlyn! I just replied to you on insta. The answer is yes, just take out the plastic insert! I will make a vid on milk frothing with the modified wand, soon. This DeLonghi truly is an amazing little machine when you tweak it. Then you can fully focus on getting quality roast next.
That steam tip at 7:35 is golden. I was going to buy a rancilo wand for my dedica but I don't think I need to go through that pain anymore... Also I found an easier way to cut off the covering. You just need to put a small pairing knife between the metal and the plastic and then hammer on top of the knife which will make it pop right off perfectly. No need for sawing. The 4 extra punctures in the plastic also really helped with steaming. After this mod, the vortex is about 7 times stronger. Can't wait to make a coffee now.
Your tip worked great to cut off the steel sleeve of the steam wand. Saved me from doing the Rancilio Silvia mod. Haven't done the extra holes, but already loving the milk texture
@@jaynava hi Jay, sorry for the late reply, I only recently found out why YT didn't update me on responses by viewers. Yes, at the tip of the wand. Best at a 45 degree angle, right in the round part between the original hole, and where the rubber turns into a straight line.
Oh mate, you did the all possible ways on this machine over my imagination, I got the same machine 1 month ago, from the beginning it was just for practice to make the latte art, but recently I fancy improving espresso taste so I got a hand grinder with 200(crazy I know) and a nice tamper, I searched for videos and reviews and then I found you, it's so crazy but super helpful and inspired me a lot.
Thanks a lot for the kind words! The only mod I did not cover was the rancillio silvio steam wand replacement, but with by much simpler "sawn-off" delonghi wand, you won't need the rancillio one: same result! Best of coffee to you
Got a used one today for 39eur. Tons of coffee residue, calcium and nasty milk frothing on the steam wand. Cleaning took like 2hrs with descaling and cleaning tablets. Got baskets from my dedica, removed the plastic insert and removed the pressurized baskets. It was a bitch to get the non-pressurized basket into the stock portafilter Have a bottomless on order. Removed the panarello and used a ziptie to have the rubber tip fixed in place. That way i can preserve it if i sell it later. No need to cut, just twist it clockwise and it should come right off I love that the portafilter gets heated so well with this machine compared to the dedica where i need to pull mutiple empty shots to get some heat. Everything is manual, which does make it more plasant for me. Steaming power seems better aswell and more consistent. The dedica hat steam pressure that waved up and down, making consistent foam kinda hard IME
Delonghi's machine is very good! I use Magnifica S and it tastes too good and I drink too much coffee. The video was very helpful! With love from Japan :)
Спасибо, было интересно глянуть, взял на заметку. У меня точно такая же кофеварка, но только один рожок, буду его модифицировать под двойную корзину с одним дном.
Looks like great info, but man I got motion sickness trying to watch 🤢Guess you did a Go Pro review inadvertently 😏I had to quit sadly - but I'd love to watch a repost!
80 c temp is cold. You must achieved higher if your thermostats work. If you leave machine there too should be steam coming from group head for short time. With steam mode, temp should be higher too
Ugh, thanks so much for this, the panarello steam wand was driving me up the wall! Couple questions, if you don't mind - when you say you poked adjacent 4 holes into the rubber steam wand near its tip, how large are those holes and by 'adjacent', do you mean that they are at 90 degree angles all round the rubber wand (just confirming)? Also, the machine drips a fair bit after the flow's been stopped with the pressurised filter. do you experience the same with a non-pressurised filter? Thanks in advance!
hya, I used a standard sowing needle, about 0.7mm. I poked them at angles to replicate an industrial grade tip such as the one in the link below. yes, this happened with pressurized filters too. There still is some overpessure in the basket when you turn of the flow, about a good 2-3 seconds in my case. You could flip the switch 2 seconds earlier if needed. images.app.goo.gl/c1UDe1TVPLSi2589A
Tried to use a zip-tie instead of cutting the outer sleeve for the milk steamer and it makes so much noise now that i use it without the outer sleeve keep in mind that i haven't poked the small holes you did with yours (the zip-tie trick saw it in another video), did you have the same problem before you poked the holes or no? ty for answering
I had no sound problem prior. Even now there occasionally is more of a gurgling sound but that's fully due to not having the right depth/angle when frothing. Changing one of those until you find the "sweet spot", a steady swooshing sound, solves this for me.
I have also done the cable tie method, and not yet done the small holes with a needle. But I have no more noise than normal. In fact, can be a lot less noise depending on how deep in the milk you put the tip.
Hi Reo, yes you can handsaw but it will take much longer. Best spread it out over a couple of days. The first part, getting through the chromed finish, is hardest. I made 4 holes in the rubber inner sleeve, at about 45degrees, angled upward. I kind of replicated the angle of theholes on a professional steam wand.
@@mjbartending , Hi Michel, I'm trying to replicate the modification of the milk frother by using a needle but the holes are almost no visible. Is this how they need to look like or you made them bigger with another tool afterwards (more similar to the main one that the coffee machine has)?. Thanks
Hia, it depends on where you are, but for the Netherlands, partsnlDOTnl has virtully everything. Item 5313247231 is the rubber inner sleeve, for example. My IG is @MJBARTENDING
Hi. For the double shot one you do need to cut the top 50% of the black plastic insert to make it fit. Cutting the aluminium itself is not needed for any of them. It's only so show the extraction, as you said.
From what I know, it is a fail safe to close the seem between the outside housing (which has a single hole) and the inner-filter inlay (the actual filter). Since the fit is pretty tight, initially nothing much should happen without the liner. However, with longer use the heating-cooling may cause the seem to grow, explaining the need of the rubber inlay. Note that I also bought original pressurized spare filters and they came from the factory without rubber (as seen in the video). So perhaps that is an improved version.
@@mjbartending Thanks. I'm hoping to minimize the coffee touching plastic/rubber after it's hot. Eventually I might try your mods but in the meantime I was hoping for an easier solution. I don't see an all stainless part available online, do you recall where you got the back up double pressurized version?
Update: I can't find any history of my purchase but I think it was on ebay, more than 6 months ago. If you are interested, you could have mine. Where do you live?
Hey men, thank you for the video. For how many grams is the single shot pressuruzed basket? Is it the classic 7-9 grams or the modern - more like 14 grams?
Hi Stefan, if you mean the factory one from DeLonghi, it is classic 8-9 gram. In fact, the 3rd party non-pressurized filters roughly have the same volume as the factory pressurized ones, as long as you compare single to single and double to double.
It took a while for me to find them. I used the links in thile coffee forum post from my pinned comment. Unfortunately, the links to the items are now dead, must have been deleted. If you would consider, 51mm la pavoni "europiccola" baskets also fit. I run their double shot basket and it works well. Amazon has them. You just need to flatten the bulged rim. Why they aren't more widely available? I guess the manufacturers aim these budget machines at a "plug & play" public where easy crema is desired for good reviews.
@@mjbartending Hey pal, thank you for your reply - I passed on it, using the double baskets and they seem to be fine. If i want a single i just half dose.
@@georgekyriazis1 good to hear. It is a pleasant surprise that you can successfully use your double basket for a single shot. You must have a lot of control over your set up, bravo!
Should i cut the original basket handle to get the crema coffee , how much coffee grams should i but in double non pressurized filter ,did the fineness of coffee should change than pressurized one
Hi, cutting the portafilter open is not needed to get good crema. You do need non-pressurized filter baskets. The weight of coffee will always vary with the type of coffee, roast, grinder and freshness. Currently, I use 18 grams of Peruvian Mayar Omni Roast at a relatively coarse grain. With espresso roast (=lighter) I usually need a finer grain. It has been long since I used a pressurized basket and I don't remember what settings I used. Fact is the volume of the baskets is roughly the same so you would never use much more. The 18 grams I mentioned above completely fill my basket, using a coarse grain.
Hi there Logan! If you mean cutting the portafilter down to bottomless, I recommend cutting off only so much that you can see a double shot basket come through. This leaves more alloy and could prevent deforming. I posted an update on that here: ruclips.net/video/2GOBt2TL4QU/видео.html
Hello Michel, Thanks for all these details. I am considering this modification but I am very curious about the result with the La Pavoni 2 cup filter you recommend. Could you make a demo video as well? or tell us more about the result? Thanks a lot !!
hi Arnoud, thank you very much. I will do so in my next series where I discuss all my recipes for all my methods on three roast levels. First will be cafetiere, then the delonghi.
@@mjbartending Excellent thank you, but not sure I wouldn't want to try it on my own before that :) What's your opinion on the result of this 2 cups filter (compared to your big modification on the filter holder for the 1 cup filter)? Do you use it with satisfaction on a regular basis ? And without going so far as to expect the result of dedicated models, is it really satisfying? I really liked your "budget BUT quality" approach, so your opinion really counts in my final decision.
@@mjbartending Hi again :) Another question for you: I'm searching for a coffee leveler/distributor, why not the same as you (the apexstone 51mm) but I cannot find an European distributor with something available in less than a month or two. Any idea or recommendation?
Very nice mods!! I'm struggling for weeks now to clean the single shot pressurized filter!! I' ve a number of things and nothing worked... how can I clean a clogged filter?!
From what I've read a combination of methods is most likely to help: 0. Scrub away al external sludge. If any holes are visibly clogged, poke them open with a needle. 1. soak the basket in espressomachine cleaning fluid for 15 minutes. Warming it slightly can help. 2. take the basket out and tap it on a surface a few times. Rinse it from the top under hot, flowing water. 3. repeat 1 and 2 4. After rinsing, blow through the bottom hole with as much force as you can. Repeat a few times. 5. Do a few empty runs in the machine without any coffee. If still clogged, repeat 1 to 4. To prevent this clogging, grind coarser.
I understand 😂 This was from before I recorded images and sound separately. Slowly working towards higher quality still, but I need both a new pc and camera with tripod and soft boxes for that. Fun fact: after the first few gopro vids its backscreen broke so I've been mostly shooting "blind".
I purchased the same delonghi 15 bar espresso machine you have in the video thinking all components are stainless steel as the box shows. It turns out the sump base is PA66 plastic and always comes in contact with hot coffee. Is it possible to remove the plastic piece and still use the coffee sump without it?
Hi Sarah, do you mean the insert with two spouts that is screwed into the portafilter? If so, then yes it is completely possible. From what I've read on fora the streams could be a bit more messy but that may have also be related to channelling, which you could then counter with proper distribution, levelling and tamping.
Is it it better to dial according to weight? So can one can do the ratio of 1.8 - 2.2 by weight whatever your crema is. I have almost the same Delonghi but 33.21 version. I stopped pretending that I get real espresso from it because of thermal instability.
That could actually be good, I think, as long as you keep flavour in mind. You are right: crema shouldn't matter as much, I stir it up before drinking anyway. Aromatic balance should be more important, so yes, you can try dialing in by ratio. Previously, I kep it simple and stuck to extraction time + crema development only. As a novice, this helped me understand the basics. As you said, the ECP's temperature fluctuates and its peak is a bit too low for "the perfect textbook espresso". Also, I can't adjust the pressure so these are two more reasons why I dialed in this way. Personally, I'd now try to start with extraction time to get an idea of the coffee's characteristics, then fine tune by ratio. Maybe in the near future I'll post a video on it, but for now I am exploring slow coffee.
Hi. I am also interested in modifying the portafilter and buying an unpressurized basket for Breville Prima Late. Do you have experience with such a device? Can you recommend me where I could buy an unpressurized basket? Thanks.
Hi Cristy, I have no experience with this machine. From what reviews I read, it appears to have a 51mm basket size that takes either DeLonghi or Krupps baskets so you could use the exact same ones I use. The current easiest purchase is a double shot non-pressurized basket from amazon. Just search for "breville krupps non pressurized basket 51mm", or smth along that line. As for modding, the pictures of the portafilter that I saw, show that the handle is very close to the bottom, near the spouts. You may risk losing handle integrity when you need to cut that close or even partially through the handle. Also, removing too much material of the portafilter ring could cause it to deform which repetitive heating and cooling. See my short video on this. I hope you can make it work, good luck !
Try a finer grind! If that doesn't help, switch to double basket. The single basket can only take really small dosages in a Delonghi. In my la pavoni, a single shot basket can take around 10+ grams at finer grinds before it touches the group head.
Hi, by timing. You calibrate your grind to such a finesse that you get your 1 or 2 ounce shot in the optimal time for your roast. See my vid on diailing in here: ruclips.net/video/QCJV28lX2No/видео.html
3:25 This is only helpful to see what is going on. This is not helpful if you are trying to tamp with the bottom of the basket on a surface and I'm mad at myself for cutting mine so the basket is showing. Leaving a rim around the bottom of the portafilter below the basket also helps keep your machine clean if you have any spraying happening from the bottom of the basket during a shot.
@@mjbartendingI touch the machine by hand. Even after a few hours, the part where the portafilter is located cannot be touched by hand. The top and sides of the machine are still hot.
@@grave3169 The part where you put the porta can stay hot for long, yes. I take care not to accidentally touch my new La Pavoni within the next two hours after brewing.
Hi, my reply did not come through I see. The nozzle is the inner nozzle of the factory wand. I sawed off the metal outer sleeve. I show where to cut in the video.
Hahaha, very true! I took this into account, knowing that could buy a replacement frothing sleeve for approx 20dollars to restore to its factory condition.
Hello! I have the same machine and I'm very happy. After I got back from my holidays I tried to use it but there's air locked inside the machine and it doesn't work. I watched tutorials how to unlock the air from the pipes but I cannot access them. Do you have any idea how can i open the machine to reach the pipes and unlock the air? Thank you
My steam wand stops before my milk gets frothy. I waited until the green light comes on before i froth my milk but after 15secs it stips and the green light goes off. Any idea why? And its brand new!
Same happened to me sometimes, especially with half litre milk jugs. I believe the green light only indicates temperature of a small reservoir, saying the machine is ready to start making steam. To make sure it can build up enough steam, I sometimes do a cleaning purge first and wait until the it goes through a second warm up cycle. This one takes much shorter, 5-8 seconds. Then your machine can keep up while steaming. Often I do not even wait for a second cycle, don't worry if the light jumps to orange again half way; it never stays on green during my steaming sessions yet still produces enough foam.
Michel Bartending glad to know im not the only one. But mine just dies off to totally no air coming out of the wand before the green light turns off. Its annoying tho
@@hanhs850 oh wait, i think i get it. It is because of the automated stand by timer. You need to first warm up the boiler with the switch in the middle (= for making hot water). Once you get green light on that, THEN switch on steam. If you switch on steam first, the heating up takes so long in 1 mode that your machine will not get any action or input for too long and turn off. Is that it?
Michel Bartending the machine doesnt turn off tho. Only the green light goes off.. its weird but i shall try to wait for the green light with the switch at middle position and then turn it to steam. Thanks!
I saw that one too, the wooden handled variant looks very stylish. I wonder if the alloy they used is strong/dense enough to not deform over time with repeated heating/cooling. Could you tell us your experience after 3-4 months of use? this is the deforming that I mean:
I did later on. When I jusyt started I wasn't familiar yet with aliexpress and their models. Although in retrospect the thinner locking ramps on their portas seemed to cause some leakage after more use
@@mjbartending Ah! I have the delonghi ec260bk, vs ecp3420. The new ec260bk model comes without that. I can do the zip tie like most are suggesting. Thank you for the fast response! Love the coffee mods.
Did anyone managed to get an aftermarket 1 shot 51mm unpressurized basket. I can't find em anywhere, and I don't think I can flatten the europiccola one with enough accuracy... thanks!
Im exploring getting a coffee machine and have noticed un pressurized baskets is the way to go would you say this is a good machine for someone starting out ?
For starting out: it depends. No that it's bad or complicated when using unpressurized baskets, but in order to fit a double shot unpressurized basket, you'll need to grind off some plastic on the inside of the porta filter. If you are willing to and capale of doing that, it could be a good starting point!
@@mjbartending been making coffee poor over method for a while and was looking to experiment with a machine i have found non pressurized open holder for it and a few filter baskets most are doubble shot tho and i got tools to do all that
*UPDATED, SCROLL DOWN FOR BASKET VENDOR* I used the forum post below to get non-pressurised filter baskets. Sadly, the items in question have been removed.
coffeegeekDOTcom/forums/espresso/machinemods/719963
However, my current non-pressurized double shot basket shown in the video I bought here (the europiccola post-1998 51mm): vanpommerenDOTnl/la-pavoni-2-kops-filterbakje-europiccola-professional-na-1998?search=Pavoni
I see they have a SINGLE SHOT version too: vanpommerenDOTnl/la-pavoni-1-kops-filterbakje-europiccola-professional-na-1998?search=Pavoni
I know the website is in Dutch but I am sure that if you contact in English them by email, they will guide you through the payment and shipment process> infoATvanpommerenDOTnl
I have called them before on my purchase and they were very friendly.
Shout out to instagram coffeelover sara331 for asking me about this 🙌
Past de single shot versie in de standaard portafilter zonder enige aanpassingen?
بليز ممكن تعلمنا كيف نقص بورتافلتر مكشوف ل ديلونجي لاسباشليستا🥺💕
For the UK users, this double one worked very well for my ECP 35.31 www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XF2929V
@@H99x2 heb de single zelf niet, maar ja denk vast van wel, omdat die korter is dan de dubble. Ik heb zelf alleen de dubble en die was een beetje te lang zonder aanpassing. Maar nadat je de plastic holder weghaalt, dan werkt het prima! (Sorry, mijn nederlands is niet meer zo goed!)
@@redfox05nl je Nederlands is prima! Ik heb de Single besteld. Deze past prima in de bestaande houder :) vergt alleen wat kracht om de basket erin te krijgen. thx for the reply anyways
Yaaaay I got so excited when I found this video!!!!! Such an amazing and informative video and I appreciate the tips you gave!!! I just got my machine and I'm so eager to level up. Thank you a million times! I'm hoping to order my second portafilter and making it bottomless the way you did it. I'd love to continue following your journey!
You are welcome Kaitlyn! I just replied to you on insta. The answer is yes, just take out the plastic insert! I will make a vid on milk frothing with the modified wand, soon. This DeLonghi truly is an amazing little machine when you tweak it. Then you can fully focus on getting quality roast next.
That steam tip at 7:35 is golden. I was going to buy a rancilo wand for my dedica but I don't think I need to go through that pain anymore... Also I found an easier way to cut off the covering. You just need to put a small pairing knife between the metal and the plastic and then hammer on top of the knife which will make it pop right off perfectly. No need for sawing. The 4 extra punctures in the plastic also really helped with steaming. After this mod, the vortex is about 7 times stronger. Can't wait to make a coffee now.
Thanks for the knife "tip"! Glad the mod works for you, especially the hole trick. Enjoy your coffee! ☕
Did it work with the texturing of the milk?
Your tip worked great to cut off the steel sleeve of the steam wand. Saved me from doing the Rancilio Silvia mod. Haven't done the extra holes, but already loving the milk texture
Hello. Where do I make the punctures. At the tip of the plastic wand just next to the original hole or on the side of plastic wand ? Thanks
@@jaynava hi Jay, sorry for the late reply, I only recently found out why YT didn't update me on responses by viewers. Yes, at the tip of the wand. Best at a 45 degree angle, right in the round part between the original hole, and where the rubber turns into a straight line.
Oh mate, you did the all possible ways on this machine over my imagination, I got the same machine 1 month ago, from the beginning it was just for practice to make the latte art, but recently I fancy improving espresso taste so I got a hand grinder with 200(crazy I know) and a nice tamper, I searched for videos and reviews and then I found you, it's so crazy but super helpful and inspired me a lot.
Thanks a lot for the kind words! The only mod I did not cover was the rancillio silvio steam wand replacement, but with by much simpler "sawn-off" delonghi wand, you won't need the rancillio one: same result! Best of coffee to you
Got a used one today for 39eur. Tons of coffee residue, calcium and nasty milk frothing on the steam wand. Cleaning took like 2hrs with descaling and cleaning tablets. Got baskets from my dedica, removed the plastic insert and removed the pressurized baskets. It was a bitch to get the non-pressurized basket into the stock portafilter
Have a bottomless on order. Removed the panarello and used a ziptie to have the rubber tip fixed in place. That way i can preserve it if i sell it later. No need to cut, just twist it clockwise and it should come right off
I love that the portafilter gets heated so well with this machine compared to the dedica where i need to pull mutiple empty shots to get some heat. Everything is manual, which does make it more plasant for me. Steaming power seems better aswell and more consistent. The dedica hat steam pressure that waved up and down, making consistent foam kinda hard IME
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience in detail! I've wondered for a long time how the Dedica differed from the ECP.
I was looking for a more detailed but simple upgrade video and this was it! I’ll try some of these mods and check back for more videos!!😊
Thank very much for the kind words, happy you found it! Feel free to ask questions or tell me how your coffee story develops
Good information 👍🏻 I’m working on a water level sensor for this machine
That's definately something else !
Delonghi's machine is very good! I use Magnifica S and it tastes too good and I drink too much coffee. The video was very helpful! With love from Japan :)
Arigato gozaimashta! 🙏
You are a legend! thanks for the vid!
Thanks a lot! I am happy to reach homemade coffee enthousiasts such as yourself
Great video ☕️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😎
Спасибо, было интересно глянуть, взял на заметку. У меня точно такая же кофеварка, но только один рожок, буду его модифицировать под двойную корзину с одним дном.
I wish I could read cyrillic but if you have a question, English, German, French or Dutch would be my only options 😅👋
Man, I love your vids! Thumbs up!
Thank you for the shout out, appreciate it!
Looks like great info, but man I got motion sickness trying to watch 🤢Guess you did a Go Pro review inadvertently 😏I had to quit sadly - but I'd love to watch a repost!
Haha, point well taken! Sadly, I had to say goodbye to my DeLonghi so this is all have left to show on that machine.
80 c temp is cold. You must achieved higher if your thermostats work. If you leave machine there too should be steam coming from group head for short time. With steam mode, temp should be higher too
Hi, with surfing I could achieve higher temperatures but in all honesty, my measuring thermostat wasn't that great
@@mjbartending get PID it's cheap
Ugh, thanks so much for this, the panarello steam wand was driving me up the wall! Couple questions, if you don't mind - when you say you poked adjacent 4 holes into the rubber steam wand near its tip, how large are those holes and by 'adjacent', do you mean that they are at 90 degree angles all round the rubber wand (just confirming)? Also, the machine drips a fair bit after the flow's been stopped with the pressurised filter. do you experience the same with a non-pressurised filter? Thanks in advance!
hya, I used a standard sowing needle, about 0.7mm. I poked them at angles to replicate an industrial grade tip such as the one in the link below.
yes, this happened with pressurized filters too. There still is some overpessure in the basket when you turn of the flow, about a good 2-3 seconds in my case. You could flip the switch 2 seconds earlier if needed. images.app.goo.gl/c1UDe1TVPLSi2589A
Tried to use a zip-tie instead of cutting the outer sleeve for the milk steamer and it makes so much noise now that i use it without the outer sleeve keep in mind that i haven't poked the small holes you did with yours (the zip-tie trick saw it in another video), did you have the same problem before you poked the holes or no? ty for answering
I had no sound problem prior. Even now there occasionally is more of a gurgling sound but that's fully due to not having the right depth/angle when frothing. Changing one of those until you find the "sweet spot", a steady swooshing sound, solves this for me.
I have also done the cable tie method, and not yet done the small holes with a needle. But I have no more noise than normal. In fact, can be a lot less noise depending on how deep in the milk you put the tip.
nice vid thx. and i have some questions. 1. Can I just cut it with a saw? without dramel? 2. How many holes did you make in silicone? 3?
Hi Reo, yes you can handsaw but it will take much longer. Best spread it out over a couple of days. The first part, getting through the chromed finish, is hardest.
I made 4 holes in the rubber inner sleeve, at about 45degrees, angled upward. I kind of replicated the angle of theholes on a professional steam wand.
@@mjbartending , Hi Michel, I'm trying to replicate the modification of the milk frother by using a needle but the holes are almost no visible. Is this how they need to look like or you made them bigger with another tool afterwards (more similar to the main one that the coffee machine has)?. Thanks
Great video that I just got this machine. Where do you get the attachment for the wand? I went to Instagram and couldn't find your coffee page.
Hia, it depends on where you are, but for the Netherlands, partsnlDOTnl has virtully everything. Item 5313247231 is the rubber inner sleeve, for example. My IG is @MJBARTENDING
Does the portafilter need to be cut when using the non pressurized basket? Or is it only for visualization?
Hi. For the double shot one you do need to cut the top 50% of the black plastic insert to make it fit. Cutting the aluminium itself is not needed for any of them. It's only so show the extraction, as you said.
Great video, thanks! Do you know what happens if you try to use the original basket without the included rubber lined screen?
From what I know, it is a fail safe to close the seem between the outside housing (which has a single hole) and the inner-filter inlay (the actual filter). Since the fit is pretty tight, initially nothing much should happen without the liner. However, with longer use the heating-cooling may cause the seem to grow, explaining the need of the rubber inlay.
Note that I also bought original pressurized spare filters and they came from the factory without rubber (as seen in the video). So perhaps that is an improved version.
@@mjbartending Thanks. I'm hoping to minimize the coffee touching plastic/rubber after it's hot. Eventually I might try your mods but in the meantime I was hoping for an easier solution. I don't see an all stainless part available online, do you recall where you got the back up double pressurized version?
@@g00dw3ll I see what you mean, no taste contamination. It has been awhile, I will check my archives.
Update: I can't find any history of my purchase but I think it was on ebay, more than 6 months ago. If you are interested, you could have mine. Where do you live?
@@mjbartending Thanks that's kind of you to offer. I'm in the States so maybe too costly to send. I think I found the right one on eBay.
Hey men, thank you for the video.
For how many grams is the single shot pressuruzed basket? Is it the classic 7-9 grams or the modern - more like 14 grams?
Hi Stefan, if you mean the factory one from DeLonghi, it is classic 8-9 gram. In fact, the 3rd party non-pressurized filters roughly have the same volume as the factory pressurized ones, as long as you compare single to single and double to double.
@@mjbartending Yup, the classic one. Thank you :)
If i have delonghi dedica porta filter , is it going to fit in this machine?
Hi, I don't think so as the ecp station has only two locking slots where you need three for a dedica portafilter.
Michel Bartending how can I know the exact type for 35.31
Why can't I find a SINGLE non-pressurized 51mm basket anywhere online? Care to share me a link? thanks in advance - great video. Cheers.
It took a while for me to find them. I used the links in thile coffee forum post from my pinned comment. Unfortunately, the links to the items are now dead, must have been deleted. If you would consider, 51mm la pavoni "europiccola" baskets also fit. I run their double shot basket and it works well. Amazon has them. You just need to flatten the bulged rim. Why they aren't more widely available? I guess the manufacturers aim these budget machines at a "plug & play" public where easy crema is desired for good reviews.
Thanks for the reply! Will google that name and see what i get. I can flatten the top easily. Cheers pal! Nice vids.
@@georgekyriazis1 any succes on finding those europiccola baskets, George?
@@mjbartending Hey pal, thank you for your reply - I passed on it, using the double baskets and they seem to be fine. If i want a single i just half dose.
@@georgekyriazis1 good to hear. It is a pleasant surprise that you can successfully use your double basket for a single shot. You must have a lot of control over your set up, bravo!
Should i cut the original basket handle to get the crema coffee , how much coffee grams should i but in double non pressurized filter ,did the fineness of coffee should change than pressurized one
Hi, cutting the portafilter open is not needed to get good crema. You do need non-pressurized filter baskets.
The weight of coffee will always vary with the type of coffee, roast, grinder and freshness. Currently, I use 18 grams of Peruvian Mayar Omni Roast at a relatively coarse grain. With espresso roast (=lighter) I usually need a finer grain.
It has been long since I used a pressurized basket and I don't remember what settings I used. Fact is the volume of the baskets is roughly the same so you would never use much more. The 18 grams I mentioned above completely fill my basket, using a coarse grain.
Thank you 💐🌸💐
need to try this method about basket portafilter
Hi there Logan! If you mean cutting the portafilter down to bottomless, I recommend cutting off only so much that you can see a double shot basket come through. This leaves more alloy and could prevent deforming. I posted an update on that here: ruclips.net/video/2GOBt2TL4QU/видео.html
this was useful. thanks
Hello Michel, Thanks for all these details. I am considering this modification but I am very curious about the result with the La Pavoni 2 cup filter you recommend. Could you make a demo video as well? or tell us more about the result? Thanks a lot !!
hi Arnoud, thank you very much. I will do so in my next series where I discuss all my recipes for all my methods on three roast levels. First will be cafetiere, then the delonghi.
@@mjbartending Excellent thank you, but not sure I wouldn't want to try it on my own before that :) What's your opinion on the result of this 2 cups filter (compared to your big modification on the filter holder for the 1 cup filter)? Do you use it with satisfaction on a regular basis ? And without going so far as to expect the result of dedicated models, is it really satisfying? I really liked your "budget BUT quality" approach, so your opinion really counts in my final decision.
@@mjbartending Hi again :) Another question for you: I'm searching for a coffee leveler/distributor, why not the same as you (the apexstone 51mm) but I cannot find an European distributor with something available in less than a month or two. Any idea or recommendation?
Very nice mods!!
I'm struggling for weeks now to clean the single shot pressurized filter!! I' ve a number of things and nothing worked... how can I clean a clogged filter?!
From what I've read a combination of methods is most likely to help:
0. Scrub away al external sludge. If any holes are visibly clogged, poke them open with a needle.
1. soak the basket in espressomachine cleaning fluid for 15 minutes. Warming it slightly can help.
2. take the basket out and tap it on a surface a few times. Rinse it from the top under hot, flowing water.
3. repeat 1 and 2
4. After rinsing, blow through the bottom hole with as much force as you can. Repeat a few times.
5. Do a few empty runs in the machine without any coffee. If still clogged, repeat 1 to 4.
To prevent this clogging, grind coarser.
good info there, i just threw up 4 times with that cam moving so much...
I understand 😂 This was from before I recorded images and sound separately. Slowly working towards higher quality still, but I need both a new pc and camera with tripod and soft boxes for that. Fun fact: after the first few gopro vids its backscreen broke so I've been mostly shooting "blind".
@@mjbartending I feel ya, gotta do what you gotta do. Still thanks, thanks to you I discovered good stuff can be done with an entry level machine 💪
I was ok until I read your comment 😞… Now I’m just listening and not watching 😑😭
3 steps to modification
buy 3 cafemakers
give them dutch guy
you recive 1 cofemaker
faccs! 🤣
You should get a wdt or build one. ☮️ Have a dedica 685.
That could be a nice addition. I sometimes use a small fork instwad
@@mjbartending you just need a cork and 4 acupuncture needles 0.3 mm thick. There are a few videos about making one. ☮️
I purchased the same delonghi 15 bar espresso machine you have in the video thinking all components are stainless steel as the box shows. It turns out the sump base is PA66 plastic and always comes in contact with hot coffee. Is it possible to remove the plastic piece and still use the coffee sump without it?
Hi Sarah, do you mean the insert with two spouts that is screwed into the portafilter? If so, then yes it is completely possible. From what I've read on fora the streams could be a bit more messy but that may have also be related to channelling, which you could then counter with proper distribution, levelling and tamping.
You can buy a non pressurised filter and portafilter for the Delonghi in AliExpress
Hi Jorge, that's great! I did see a bottomless portafilter for the DeLonghi Dedica, not yet for the ECP. Do you have links to these items?
@@mjbartending I may be incorrect but I think the portafilters are interchangeable, yours look identical to mine
@@george8859 there is a difference in their locking points. I recently did a review on the aliexpress two-point naked portafilter, impressed.
Where did you get your single shot none pressurised filter from mate?
hi Ryan, I've just pinned the post on where I got them, please check the top comment 👆👌
@@mjbartending Thanks mate 👍🏻
Is it it better to dial according to weight? So can one can do the ratio of 1.8 - 2.2 by weight whatever your crema is. I have almost the same Delonghi but 33.21 version. I stopped pretending that I get real espresso from it because of thermal instability.
That could actually be good, I think, as long as you keep flavour in mind. You are right: crema shouldn't matter as much, I stir it up before drinking anyway. Aromatic balance should be more important, so yes, you can try dialing in by ratio.
Previously, I kep it simple and stuck to extraction time + crema development only. As a novice, this helped me understand the basics. As you said, the ECP's temperature fluctuates and its peak is a bit too low for "the perfect textbook espresso". Also, I can't adjust the pressure so these are two more reasons why I dialed in this way.
Personally, I'd now try to start with extraction time to get an idea of the coffee's characteristics, then fine tune by ratio. Maybe in the near future I'll post a video on it, but for now I am exploring slow coffee.
Hi.
I am also interested in modifying the portafilter and buying an unpressurized basket for Breville Prima Late. Do you have experience with such a device?
Can you recommend me where I could buy an unpressurized basket? Thanks.
Hi Cristy, I have no experience with this machine. From what reviews I read, it appears to have a 51mm basket size that takes either DeLonghi or Krupps baskets so you could use the exact same ones I use. The current easiest purchase is a double shot non-pressurized basket from amazon. Just search for "breville krupps non pressurized basket 51mm", or smth along that line.
As for modding, the pictures of the portafilter that I saw, show that the handle is very close to the bottom, near the spouts. You may risk losing handle integrity when you need to cut that close or even partially through the handle. Also, removing too much material of the portafilter ring could cause it to deform which repetitive heating and cooling. See my short video on this.
I hope you can make it work, good luck !
in the single shot factory basket i put about 7g coffee - and i find it touches the group head - is that supposed to happen or what am i doing wrong?
Try a finer grind! If that doesn't help, switch to double basket. The single basket can only take really small dosages in a Delonghi. In my la pavoni, a single shot basket can take around 10+ grams at finer grinds before it touches the group head.
How many grams of coffee do you put on the single shot non pressurized basket? Newb here ☺️☺️☺️
Hi! It's been awhile since I last used my DeLonghi but it averaged between 7-10 grams, if I remember correctly
What’s the deal with double shot unpressurised basket ? Did you have to mod the plastic insert ??
Hi Rick, yes I had to cut off the top of the plastic insert to make to make the deeper basket fit. Easily done with even a saw
How do you get the correct amount of water coming out of your machine with a non-pressured basket?
Hi, by timing. You calibrate your grind to such a finesse that you get your 1 or 2 ounce shot in the optimal time for your roast. See my vid on diailing in here: ruclips.net/video/QCJV28lX2No/видео.html
3:25 This is only helpful to see what is going on. This is not helpful if you are trying to tamp with the bottom of the basket on a surface and I'm mad at myself for cutting mine so the basket is showing. Leaving a rim around the bottom of the portafilter below the basket also helps keep your machine clean if you have any spraying happening from the bottom of the basket during a shot.
You can use the rim of the higher cut basket for tamping. It's not optimal but with practice, it works fine. In trade you get higher visibility.
What is the model number/name of the Rancilio wand you installed?
It's the ECP's own wand, I only sawed off the bottom 3/4ths of the outer sleeve (from the twisting ring down)
Hallo. After turning off the machine, it maintains its temperature for a few hours. So is it normal that it doesn't cool down?
@@grave3169 where do you measure the temp?
@@mjbartendingI touch the machine by hand. Even after a few hours, the part where the portafilter is located cannot be touched by hand. The top and sides of the machine are still hot.
@@grave3169 The part where you put the porta can stay hot for long, yes. I take care not to accidentally touch my new La Pavoni within the next two hours after brewing.
@@grave3169 That sounds abnormal, I'd have it checked to be sure
What is the nozzle you used for the steam wand?
Hi, my reply did not come through I see. The nozzle is the inner nozzle of the factory wand. I sawed off the metal outer sleeve. I show where to cut in the video.
MJ Bartending. I later saw it from the video. Thank you. What you have done is very cool.
I think you voided your guarantee 😁👍🏻
Hahaha, very true! I took this into account, knowing that could buy a replacement frothing sleeve for approx 20dollars to restore to its factory condition.
I do not have the cutting tools. So, I spent the tools money for a new portafilter. 😂
Haha, saved yourself some time there! From which maker?
@@mjbartending I purchased it for approximately $20 from an eBay seller without a specific brand.
@@beyou3015 i hope it serves you well ☕
Hello! I have the same machine and I'm very happy. After I got back from my holidays I tried to use it but there's air locked inside the machine and it doesn't work. I watched tutorials how to unlock the air from the pipes but I cannot access them. Do you have any idea how can i open the machine to reach the pipes and unlock the air? Thank you
Honest answer: not sure! Where exactly are you blocked when you open it up?
Thanks
Which grinder do u use ? Thanks
Still rocking the graeff CM702/700 series. It's just about fine enough for these 51mm porta machines, including my new Pavoni
My steam wand stops before my milk gets frothy. I waited until the green light comes on before i froth my milk but after 15secs it stips and the green light goes off.
Any idea why? And its brand new!
Same happened to me sometimes, especially with half litre milk jugs. I believe the green light only indicates temperature of a small reservoir, saying the machine is ready to start making steam. To make sure it can build up enough steam, I sometimes do a cleaning purge first and wait until the it goes through a second warm up cycle. This one takes much shorter, 5-8 seconds. Then your machine can keep up while steaming. Often I do not even wait for a second cycle, don't worry if the light jumps to orange again half way; it never stays on green during my steaming sessions yet still produces enough foam.
Michel Bartending glad to know im not the only one. But mine just dies off to totally no air coming out of the wand before the green light turns off. Its annoying tho
Michel Bartending and i have a 350ml jug only
@@hanhs850 oh wait, i think i get it. It is because of the automated stand by timer. You need to first warm up the boiler with the switch in the middle (= for making hot water). Once you get green light on that, THEN switch on steam.
If you switch on steam first, the heating up takes so long in 1 mode that your machine will not get any action or input for too long and turn off. Is that it?
Michel Bartending the machine doesnt turn off tho. Only the green light goes off.. its weird but i shall try to wait for the green light with the switch at middle position and then turn it to steam. Thanks!
I'm using a dedica and found a bottomless portafilter with a wooden handle on eBay, waiting for it to come from China
I saw that one too, the wooden handled variant looks very stylish. I wonder if the alloy they used is strong/dense enough to not deform over time with repeated heating/cooling. Could you tell us your experience after 3-4 months of use? this is the deforming that I mean:
I forgot to post the link, here it is: ruclips.net/video/2GOBt2TL4QU/видео.html
Why not buying a bottomless 51 mm portfilter online?
I did later on. When I jusyt started I wasn't familiar yet with aliexpress and their models. Although in retrospect the thinner locking ramps on their portas seemed to cause some leakage after more use
@@mjbartending My bad, didn't realize the video was 2 years old...
@@AlexTapisevic no worries Alex. I now use a la pavoni instead with a factory naked portafler
For the milk steam wand modification, what is that item called?
There is no item to buy. You screw off the ring with the letters and saw off the plastic pipe beneath it. Then screw back the ensemble.
@@mjbartending Ah! I have the delonghi ec260bk, vs ecp3420. The new ec260bk model comes without that. I can do the zip tie like most are suggesting. Thank you for the fast response! Love the coffee mods.
Did anyone managed to get an aftermarket 1 shot 51mm unpressurized basket. I can't find em anywhere, and I don't think I can flatten the europiccola one with enough accuracy... thanks!
See this link www.aliexpress.com/item/4000892055133.html .. I contact the seller and I show him the machine .. it’s from China .. good luck
@@saifmohammed1725 thanks Saif. I meant the filter shieve, not the portafilter.
@@saifmohammed1725 necro-post sorry...did you end up buying this? Did it fit?
Im exploring getting a coffee machine and have noticed un pressurized baskets is the way to go would you say this is a good machine for someone starting out ?
For starting out: it depends. No that it's bad or complicated when using unpressurized baskets, but in order to fit a double shot unpressurized basket, you'll need to grind off some plastic on the inside of the porta filter. If you are willing to and capale of doing that, it could be a good starting point!
@@mjbartending been making coffee poor over method for a while and was looking to experiment with a machine i have found non pressurized open holder for it and a few filter baskets most are doubble shot tho and i got tools to do all that
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