I find that i really enjoy the Delta aircraft (with countermeasures) in warthunder. They typically have very high deck speed and very good mid-low speed nose authority which allows you to kind of zoom in and out of the furball picking off targets and then when the players have dwindled down to low numbers u can force them to chase you, get them isolated, force overshoots and get 2-3 snapshots before either killing them or zooming away, gaining speed and reseting.
It has tiny bolt on Canards that the original didn't have. The C2 is where it starts getting build with them actually built on the airframe instead of being an afterthought
@@ivanvukadin3194 There is no Kfir C.1 The first Kfir variant was JUST called the Kfir (it was shit) To expand on my point: the C designation means Canard, hence why only the Kfirs with built-in canards have it (the Kfir Canard is sometimes wrongly called the C.1 Plus, or just C.1.
The Nesher has no canards... The Kfir Canard (or Kfir Gderot as it is called in Israel, Gderot is fences in Hebrew) is the first variant of a Kfir that has canards. Note that it is not called Kfir C.1 and there is no such thing as Kfir C.1. Following version were named with a "C" + number, starting from the Kfir C.2. The C stands for Canards. Here is a nice source from the official IAF Library for further reading: files.iaflibrary.org.il/DigitalLibrary/English/Kfir.pdf And in my opinion they should have called it "Kfir Gderot" (Gderot = fences)
The Gderote was one of those planes I was super hyped for, mostly just do to the skins it got. The history about it is also particularly interesting, as it was initially a stopgap solution/modification to the original Kfirs, until the Kfir C.2 became available in 1978 Edit: so, little bit more history about the Kfir The base model was frankly kinda shit. Think of a Kfir with no canards, no dogtooths, no HUD, no Countermeasures, absolute shit turning, and shit AoA. The Israeli pilots complained so hard about it that IAI and Israel's Hafa institute made a bunch of changes: canards, small fences/vortex generators on the nose to increase performance at high angles of attack, and dogtooth leading edges. These modifications were really good, but they were too intensive to be applied to the original Kfir base model. So, while this NEW Kfir (the C.2) was in development, IAI and Hafa came up with smaller-span bolt-on canards and bolt-on vortex generators on the nose, which did improve performance. By 1984, the Gderotes were retired from Israeli service. 12 were passed on to the US Navy (Squadron VF-43 Challengers) and 13 went to the US Marine Corps (VMFT-401 Snipers), where they served until the late 1980s. Also, the Kfir was re-designated as F-21A Lion in US adversarial service
@@patchouliknowledge4455They chose it as an adversary due to the fact that it was pretty good at mimmicking the older Mig-23 Floggers, in terms of climbrate, acceleration, and top speed. The F-21s (US designation for the stripped-down Kfir C.1/Gderots) were also only being leased to the United States, hence why all were returned to Israel by 1989 (though the USS Intrepid museum ended up buying one back from Israel to add to its collection, which I think was BuNo 999734). As for why the US didn't outright buy them for use with its own military: there was simply no need. By the mid-late 1980s, when these aircraft were being leased, the US had far better aircraft in its inventory: F-14s, F/A-18s, A-7s, A-6s, A-4Ms (USMC-only), Harriers (USMC only), F-15s, F-16s, F-4s, A-10s, etc. Looking at the Kfir with a more crirical view: it was... alright. It got the job done for Israel as a replacement for their Neshers. Foreign Kfir upgrades (C.10 namely) were a bit better, due to the addition of a more advanced cockpit/avionics, but it's still a 3rd Gen airframe with a turbojet from the 1960s. The variant the US had leased, the C.1/Gderot, was quite literally intended only as a stopgap solution in Israeli service, until the C.2 model was able to be produced in large enough numbers to be formally adopted (around 1978-or-so). The C.1s were then relegated to backburner roles until being ENTIRELY replaced/phased out by 1983-1984. In the long run, the IAF didn't even use the Kfir for all that long, with a service life going from 1975-1996 (shorter than the F-4 Phantom II, which Israel acquired by 1969, and was retired in the early 2000s). The only other foreign aircraft the US ended up adopting was the AV-8A/C/TAV-8A Harrier, which was exclusive to the US Marine Corps (it fit their needs perfectly).
The F-84 at its BR is really good. It gets an air spawn, it is very fast. I farmed the hell out of SL and RP with it. It can carry bombs, so I fly out, smash a base, then turn back in with lots of energy and can easily get a kill or two within seconds of the furball starting.
Hang on when did the Kfir C.2 become a 10.7?? G'day DEFYN, So thanks for the review of this bird I will probably never get this more opting to talisman the IAI Kfir C.2 but it has an interesting playstyle. Sidenote from a stock perspective what would be the best missile for all three Kfirs? The AIM-9D or the Shafrir 2? (I cannot seem to tell which would be best).
i love the c2 nowadays, it has as far as i know the most advanced radar rangefinder in the game, even allowing you to slave missiles to the rangefinder, meaning you can have your nose pointed off bore of a target but as long as the rangefinder is "locking" that target your aim 9g automatically points at it. not super useful but very cool and it really makes me laugh when it does come into play
If you wanna maximize profit in this thing take 2x 2000lb and 1x 750lb bombs, plus 2 missiles, with this loadout you can still go 1320 kph on the deck, and 1 base gets you an insane amount of rp and sl cause of the planes multipliers
Hey, just had an idea for content: Something like a wager series; where you stream or make episodes of people betting on winning against you, it's a great way to make money and it makes your playerbase able to interact more with you. While the 1v1 is playing in the background you analyze your and the enemies manouvers
Hi Defyn, once you finish up these top tier videos, could you please fly out the f86f-2 sabre preferably, or another 9.0 jet, im kind of struggling to get kills and it would be really helpful.
This is the only RUclips channel I'm subscribed to where I watch EVERY new video and here's the thing: I've never played War Thunder and don't intend to. Everything herein is well done and entertaining, especially the narration. I fully expect it to keep getting better and better. The last flight combat sim I played was "Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 2: Pacific Theater" right around the turn of the century -- but I did play the f out of that, so I'm familiar with the concepts.
I didn't buy the f84 but got it in my first new year crate , very surprised at how good it is,air spawn free base kill every game then however many gun kills you can get
I would love to see a video on the different radar and modes we have in game now as I have just reached the F4-C, and also a video on the different missiles in game as there are so many now and I can’t keep track of all the Aim 9 variants.
Check out the USAF official guide on the Sidewinder missile family, study it up, and you should be plenty versed in the AIM-9 missile and even the various export/redesigns.
are you gonna play the kfir c.7 again? i was hoping that the f16 and mig29 would perform the same or better because the kfir can hit mach 2 like within the first 5 minutes of the game but they somehow arent as fast. also i feel like the kfir got an updated FM because it turns even more insane now except the wings break a lot easier too. still one of my favorite planes, the playstyle where u climb to 7.5km and then hit 1800 kmh and then dive on people and kill them with aim9gs from like 7km away is really fun. you can basically pick off 2-3 people within 10 seconds because nobody looks that high.
@Demon Most likely it's due to him being a CC so that has it's benefits resulting in a large amount of orders given (I think that's it as a few other CC's have a large amount of orders) + orders haven't been around for eight years more like four iirc (although it could be possible that he has ground them out). Best we get a definitive answer from Dyfen himself.
I quote Defyn himself in one of his videos (it was many moons ago) where he said something along the lines of _"if you are wondering why I have 500 blind hunts, that's cuz I asked for them."_
Bro i got it for xmas yesterday and it is crack and isreali top tier nowadays is so goooooood and the kfir is an op grinder i alrdy got rank 6 in 1 day of grinding
For the canard imo it’s a really good base bomber for air rb bc of how fast it is. I usually speed to a base bomb it and get back to the airbase as fast as I can, rearm and go back and bomb again. I’ve had some games I was able to drop 5 tons of bombs on bases and make 50,000 rp and 145k sl. Normal games tho are usually 50k sl and 5-15k rp
bombing feels like the only thing this thing is decent at. its completely dogshit past that. but it is the best for grinding israel and at least they have good end game jets.
@@DanZeal I just doesn't compete to everything else at its tier. It has a good engine but wants to rip its wings going straight so that not great compared to a lot of planes at its br that can go faster and not crumple. and then there is the fact that it is a delta wing which isnt great, at least for me. And last is its missiles are dog water, I wish it would've got the Pythons. But this is strictly just my opinion. The jet is what got me to the Kurnass 2k and the F16. And I will credit it what saved Israel air for me. But I will never say it was good.
all planes that are airframe limited will rip their wings going straight though, you just turn off the burner for a bit you're still faster than almost everyone
This plane intrigues me but I refuse to pay 70 bucks... time to wait for summer sale lol.
Summer sales of 2024 I think
@@pierricus1399 if it doesn't go on sale this summer then anniversary sales are next
Bold of you to assume well be alive by then
Don't worry it'll be facing F15s and Su27s by then too
Absolutely bananas one plane is as much as a new game. Why how why
I find that i really enjoy the Delta aircraft (with countermeasures) in warthunder. They typically have very high deck speed and very good mid-low speed nose authority which allows you to kind of zoom in and out of the furball picking off targets and then when the players have dwindled down to low numbers u can force them to chase you, get them isolated, force overshoots and get 2-3 snapshots before either killing them or zooming away, gaining speed and reseting.
A-4H is the best delta in game
@@Kleur lol eh i shouldve said tailless delta.
Despite the new 4th gen + f14 onslaught, the M2k has been my favorite gen 4 this patch and i think it's for pretty similar reasons to what you said.
You know what really confused me.....
Why did they call it Kfir Canard while having the smallest Canards compared to the Nesher, C2 and C7
It has tiny bolt on Canards that the original didn't have. The C2 is where it starts getting build with them actually built on the airframe instead of being an afterthought
@@cameronporter5137 ah I see
So this is a C1 with add on canards
@@ivanvukadin3194 There is no Kfir C.1
The first Kfir variant was JUST called the Kfir (it was shit)
To expand on my point: the C designation means Canard, hence why only the Kfirs with built-in canards have it (the Kfir Canard is sometimes wrongly called the C.1 Plus, or just C.1.
The Nesher has no canards...
The Kfir Canard (or Kfir Gderot as it is called in Israel, Gderot is fences in Hebrew) is the first variant of a Kfir that has canards. Note that it is not called Kfir C.1 and there is no such thing as Kfir C.1.
Following version were named with a "C" + number, starting from the Kfir C.2.
The C stands for Canards.
Here is a nice source from the official IAF Library for further reading:
files.iaflibrary.org.il/DigitalLibrary/English/Kfir.pdf
And in my opinion they should have called it "Kfir Gderot" (Gderot = fences)
@@maorcohen5693 would've also been cool to name it the F-21 Lion as thats what it was designated when leased by US Navy and Marine aggressor squadrons
„However…“ you already know he‘s been through a lot with this Plane.
The amount of blind hunts defyn has is actually insane. 😂
defyn i love yord videos.They are very helpful.Keep it up
real
We all love him
yord 💀
The Gderote was one of those planes I was super hyped for, mostly just do to the skins it got.
The history about it is also particularly interesting, as it was initially a stopgap solution/modification to the original Kfirs, until the Kfir C.2 became available in 1978
Edit: so, little bit more history about the Kfir
The base model was frankly kinda shit. Think of a Kfir with no canards, no dogtooths, no HUD, no Countermeasures, absolute shit turning, and shit AoA.
The Israeli pilots complained so hard about it that IAI and Israel's Hafa institute made a bunch of changes: canards, small fences/vortex generators on the nose to increase performance at high angles of attack, and dogtooth leading edges. These modifications were really good, but they were too intensive to be applied to the original Kfir base model. So, while this NEW Kfir (the C.2) was in development, IAI and Hafa came up with smaller-span bolt-on canards and bolt-on vortex generators on the nose, which did improve performance.
By 1984, the Gderotes were retired from Israeli service.
12 were passed on to the US Navy (Squadron VF-43 Challengers) and 13 went to the US Marine Corps (VMFT-401 Snipers), where they served until the late 1980s.
Also, the Kfir was re-designated as F-21A Lion in US adversarial service
Thanks for the history lesson! Quick question, why did the US decide to use it as an aggressor and not a US aircraft?
@@patchouliknowledge4455They chose it as an adversary due to the fact that it was pretty good at mimmicking the older Mig-23 Floggers, in terms of climbrate, acceleration, and top speed.
The F-21s (US designation for the stripped-down Kfir C.1/Gderots) were also only being leased to the United States, hence why all were returned to Israel by 1989 (though the USS Intrepid museum ended up buying one back from Israel to add to its collection, which I think was BuNo 999734).
As for why the US didn't outright buy them for use with its own military: there was simply no need.
By the mid-late 1980s, when these aircraft were being leased, the US had far better aircraft in its inventory: F-14s, F/A-18s, A-7s, A-6s, A-4Ms (USMC-only), Harriers (USMC only), F-15s, F-16s, F-4s, A-10s, etc.
Looking at the Kfir with a more crirical view: it was... alright. It got the job done for Israel as a replacement for their Neshers. Foreign Kfir upgrades (C.10 namely) were a bit better, due to the addition of a more advanced cockpit/avionics, but it's still a 3rd Gen airframe with a turbojet from the 1960s. The variant the US had leased, the C.1/Gderot, was quite literally intended only as a stopgap solution in Israeli service, until the C.2 model was able to be produced in large enough numbers to be formally adopted (around 1978-or-so). The C.1s were then relegated to backburner roles until being ENTIRELY replaced/phased out by 1983-1984.
In the long run, the IAF didn't even use the Kfir for all that long, with a service life going from 1975-1996 (shorter than the F-4 Phantom II, which Israel acquired by 1969, and was retired in the early 2000s).
The only other foreign aircraft the US ended up adopting was the AV-8A/C/TAV-8A Harrier, which was exclusive to the US Marine Corps (it fit their needs perfectly).
when the kfir canard doesn't have a canard
It does, they're just tiny
@@Tigershark_3082 They look about average to me, certainly not small
@@Tigershark_3082well then we should have an F-14 Canard
@@KoolDuckGuy No
@@Tigershark_3082 f14 had tiny canards, won’t that count?
Im so mad at the fact that the Kfir C.7 rips its wing at the slightest -G maneuver but in the Kfir canard its impossible to rip the wings…
Because it doesn't pull as hard
@@Tigershark_3082 I dont even have the new boosters installed and the wings rip at nothing, i dont wanna imagine with the new boosters on
12:03 The fact that it was a F4WRD player makes it even more funny.
I'm really excited about the upcoming video about how to evade/defeat radar and IR missiles!
Me too!
Generally with the kfir, I find it to be great. It's made me learn to love the DEFAs
How about a complete Tier-list for all the air to air missiles in the game?
People love a good tier list :D
Good video, glad you’re feeling better
The F-84 at its BR is really good. It gets an air spawn, it is very fast. I farmed the hell out of SL and RP with it. It can carry bombs, so I fly out, smash a base, then turn back in with lots of energy and can easily get a kill or two within seconds of the furball starting.
Some may call these triangle shaped jets Doritos. But I like to think that these are the pinnacle of Loaded Nachos.
Hang on when did the Kfir C.2 become a 10.7??
G'day DEFYN, So thanks for the review of this bird I will probably never get this more opting to talisman the IAI Kfir C.2 but it has an interesting playstyle.
Sidenote from a stock perspective what would be the best missile for all three Kfirs? The AIM-9D or the Shafrir 2? (I cannot seem to tell which would be best).
i love the c2 nowadays, it has as far as i know the most advanced radar rangefinder in the game, even allowing you to slave missiles to the rangefinder, meaning you can have your nose pointed off bore of a target but as long as the rangefinder is "locking" that target your aim 9g automatically points at it. not super useful but very cool and it really makes me laugh when it does come into play
I discovered this yesterday by accident. Works great for tracking through clouds and the odd cheeky shot
the kfir canard is prob my fav plane in the game honestly
Got it few days ago and got really surprised how much fun it is in current MM
Defyn although it may be rough to play at 6.0 but can you play the F4U-4B with its new engine buff?
its also said it has more high speed compression, havent flown it yet
8:58 ITS NOT THE PLANE ITS THE PILOT
Hi defyn can you make video about BF 109 G6 with double barrel 20mm? I just wanna see how you play with that. Thank youu
holy shit when i encountered this for the first time he outran my f105 wow nice turning and amazing setup options
i am shocked i got the tornado without grinding for it
The event tornado
Gotta love when team-mates do that.
Attempt to steal your kill then extend and get killed themselves.
If you wanna maximize profit in this thing take 2x 2000lb and 1x 750lb bombs, plus 2 missiles, with this loadout you can still go 1320 kph on the deck, and 1 base gets you an insane amount of rp and sl cause of the planes multipliers
Hey, just had an idea for content: Something like a wager series; where you stream or make episodes of people betting on winning against you, it's a great way to make money and it makes your playerbase able to interact more with you. While the 1v1 is playing in the background you analyze your and the enemies manouvers
Hi Defyn, once you finish up these top tier videos, could you please fly out the f86f-2 sabre preferably, or another 9.0 jet, im kind of struggling to get kills and it would be really helpful.
Are you gonna do a mig 23 ml video I’m tempted to buy it but idk if it’s worth it
How were you able to gather so many blind hunt orders?
This is the only RUclips channel I'm subscribed to where I watch EVERY new video and here's the thing: I've never played War Thunder and don't intend to. Everything herein is well done and entertaining, especially the narration. I fully expect it to keep getting better and better. The last flight combat sim I played was "Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 2: Pacific Theater" right around the turn of the century -- but I did play the f out of that, so I'm familiar with the concepts.
After I left a match I left war thunder open for the night, and when I got back all of my controls have been wiped, do you know what to do?
I didn't buy the f84 but got it in my first new year crate , very surprised at how good it is,air spawn free base kill every game then however many gun kills you can get
Imagine being called canard and you have miniature canards
i love the outro music
Can you make a video on the La-200?
so, should i buy it in the sale?
The kfir canard doesnt feature canards
hey DEFYN can you make a video about the f104J suffering for japan?
10.7
mid missles
no flares
bad performance
we suffered from skill issue got me dying😂😅
hey defyn, will you do a video for the british F4J (UK) that is similar to this video in the future?
Its trash and out of meta
I will but I wouldnt buy it
@@DEFYN alright cool
@@DEFYN would you buy the mig 23ML
I would love to see a video on the different radar and modes we have in game now as I have just reached the F4-C, and also a video on the different missiles in game as there are so many now and I can’t keep track of all the Aim 9 variants.
Check out the USAF official guide on the Sidewinder missile family, study it up, and you should be plenty versed in the AIM-9 missile and even the various export/redesigns.
Tim's Variety has a really good, comprehensive radar video and missile video
Its a mirage thats actually good
I feel like the Canard is still worth it a lot. I'm actually thinking of getting it
Wait till Easter sale
mirage3c with 2 aim9g in 10.7? it should be br9.7, if this thing can get br10.7, why something like av8a or a6e not get br12.0?
are you gonna play the kfir c.7 again? i was hoping that the f16 and mig29 would perform the same or better because the kfir can hit mach 2 like within the first 5 minutes of the game but they somehow arent as fast. also i feel like the kfir got an updated FM because it turns even more insane now except the wings break a lot easier too. still one of my favorite planes, the playstyle where u climb to 7.5km and then hit 1800 kmh and then dive on people and kill them with aim9gs from like 7km away is really fun. you can basically pick off 2-3 people within 10 seconds because nobody looks that high.
It’s even better now xD. The Python has stupid good range at high altitude, and it’s all aspect
Hi, could you send me the link for the USAF Kfir skin?
It's unlockable
How'd you get so many blind hunt orders?
@Demon Most likely it's due to him being a CC so that has it's benefits resulting in a large amount of orders given (I think that's it as a few other CC's have a large amount of orders) + orders haven't been around for eight years more like four iirc (although it could be possible that he has ground them out).
Best we get a definitive answer from Dyfen himself.
I quote Defyn himself in one of his videos (it was many moons ago) where he said something along the lines of _"if you are wondering why I have 500 blind hunts, that's cuz I asked for them."_
Grind Thunder. I hope they fix SIM battles!
Bro i got it for xmas yesterday and it is crack and isreali top tier nowadays is so goooooood and the kfir is an op grinder i alrdy got rank
6 in 1 day of grinding
why do you hate the f84f so much
Please can we have a video on the new Sea Harrier!!
Tickets weren't going down on their own, they had help from the ground pounding. They do go down on their own but that wasn't the only reason.
For those wondering. It isn’t worth grinding the Israeli F16. Just bear thru the grind for the U.S or Chinese variant.
That last guy just wanted to be in the video lol
Please, make video about Banshee. After BR buff (from 8.3 to 7.7) I think it's really good
I really really wish they’d used the Kfir C10 as the premium one. I love the Kfir but no radar means it’s pretty useless in sim mode
I just got the Kfir Canard using the discount code lol :)
I am that tornado spam lmao
looks kinda good. Only kinda.
I got the f84f from a chest......d'oh.
They removed the A4E premium 😭I have to get this one now
Wing....rips... beware
Next Decal from Defyn: It is what it is. Just need to find some nice artwork going along that. :D
Idk if I’m just unlucky every day but I naught this and have been getting spawnkilled by radar missiles all day
actually if it comes to the IIICJ i find AIM9D better than magic 2's, also nice thing to note is that CJ has RWR.
Its nice to have that extra range on the missiles but sometimes its pain to face certain targets in 1v2 cuz of the lack of flares.
Does the CJ have Magic now?
@@calimdonmorgul7206 No, just the shafrir2 and aim9d+ the big missile on the middle
The prices are just too much, 100 Canadian after tax (play station). The ML and this interest me
For the canard imo it’s a really good base bomber for air rb bc of how fast it is. I usually speed to a base bomb it and get back to the airbase as fast as I can, rearm and go back and bomb again. I’ve had some games I was able to drop 5 tons of bombs on bases and make 50,000 rp and 145k sl. Normal games tho are usually 50k sl and 5-15k rp
Now use the gun pods....
Kfir canard is so horrible right now, i want to demand a refund to Gaijin for this 😂
Is that skin available to buy?
Legends of the Vietnam war like F105 or F4 now serve as free kills for premium players. That’s why I got rid of this game.
Skill issue
Use the Gunpods ion the Kfri, you barely notice the flight differences.
if you dont notice the difference I have bad news for you
Play the yak 15p
so many unspaded talisman planes lol
bombing feels like the only thing this thing is decent at. its completely dogshit past that. but it is the best for grinding israel and at least they have good end game jets.
Bro how?! I love this thing lol
@@DanZeal I just doesn't compete to everything else at its tier. It has a good engine but wants to rip its wings going straight so that not great compared to a lot of planes at its br that can go faster and not crumple. and then there is the fact that it is a delta wing which isnt great, at least for me. And last is its missiles are dog water, I wish it would've got the Pythons. But this is strictly just my opinion. The jet is what got me to the Kurnass 2k and the F16. And I will credit it what saved Israel air for me. But I will never say it was good.
all planes that are airframe limited will rip their wings going straight though, you just turn off the burner for a bit you're still faster than almost everyone
bro je kan btr nederlands praten (acent) gwn goed engld
I got low experience with br 10.0+. So i want to tell me a premium jet in br 10.0+ that it will make me have a good times with it. Plzzz answer me
Pls play bf110
First
bro i was first
Brain damage
Please make better content
He makes one of the best wt content
They should add a 1v1 or 3v3 or 4v4 whatever gamemode would be way more interesting in toptier planes skill would play more of a factor