"MLK Jr. Wasn't A Christian" Says Televangelist
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Pastor John MacArthur has been a televangelist since like the 1960s. He recently said he didn’t think Martin Luther king Jr was christian at all. Let’s see which person espoused more of Christ’s ideas: MacArthur or MLK Jr.
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"Idolatry" screams the people who literally made a golden trump statue
More like Trump himself for having it made. The people who made it were just doing what they were paid to do
And yet they worship the cross. Lol. Blatant hypocrisy
@@Spaghetti_policy They don't worship the cross itself. It's just a symbol
Ikr
@@bigjalapeno7061 he didn't have it made some of his cultists made it to impress him and then dozens of cpac visitors literally bowed down in front of it like worshipping a golden jack a$$ is somehow different than worshipping a golden cow which is where the whole no false idols thing came from, so yeah they are the people that made a golden trump. He didn't make it magats did to impress him
"I don't even sipport religious freedom", then you can move to Saudi Arabia.
Wrong God. He wants the white version.
He still wants booze and pork.
Or, N. Korea.
BuT ThAt's tHe wRoNg rElIgIoN!
Medieval Europe 💀☠️
When the religious declare we should be forced into their religion, that is a declaration of war on freedom. He's declaring war.
Pretty much
They think they would be able to roll over the entire country with minimal resistance also. They’re wrong.
I’d say you’re mostly right in that but I think most people of reasonably sound mind don’t take guys like this seriously when they say crap like that and he’s got a lot of hurdles to get through before he can can rid of religious freedom so I think we’re all good for the time being however if he starts calling people to arms then in that context against people who believe differently perhaps then he may need to have someone arrest him
@@johnhavel7685 Yea you're right. They already kinda are plotting something violent though
Go get your AR bruuuther! And what is your pasty ass gonna do about it? Tippity type some strongly worded comments? I'm sure that's going to help the war effort.
This man’s father Jack performed my grandfather’s funeral in 1959. All he did was try to convert the attendees. My grandmother walked out.
yea, it was the same with my grandfather. He got a JW funeral and 80% of all he said was how great JW was and why people should join.. i think i watched 10 minutes of a 40-50 minutes funeral..
Well that's just messed up
Same happened at my mums funeral. It was pretty inappropriate. He basically called us all sinners.
Seriously? I’m sorry for that. RIP to your grandfather. I hope your grandmother found peace as well
@@dylans0630 Yea it's really low to see a funeral as a chance to convert people
"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries." - James Madison, 1803
Pragmatism, the great American virtue.
John ask for a gov that is controlled by one religion and church.. he dont like being separated from the gov.
John should be officially shamed for that statement in every social media on the internet, share all details and picture you can find ...
@@lokelaufeyson9931I think John would feel more at home in a regime like Iran but based on Christianity instead of Islam.
I find it interesting that evangelicals declare someone as idolatrous when that's exactly what they do to their mindset.
They essentially falsely claim to be God without outright saying it. They believe their opinions reshape reality
It's one small step from "non-Christians should not live here" to "non-Christians should not live".
That step inevitably follows the so-called non-Christians (who are a better match to Christianity than the preacher) objecting to being expelled.
"No Christian would ever say we support religious freedom." Well then the founders weren't Christians were they!?
They weren't.
It's not difficult to research that many of our forefathers were Deists.
Also, I suggest you read Thomas Paine's - Age of Reason.
@@charlesmiller8107 THE 4th Reicht Wing always say the founders were.
Not a single one of them.
@@jefft5152 Most of them said they were deist. That's different.
This guy doesn't understand that no matter which religion you try to shove down people's throats they will believe whatever they want to. Saying your Christian and being Christian are two different things.
*you're
@@embrikchloraker8186Absolutely wrong choice of the word ‘your’ and ‘you’re’
@@embrikchloraker8186 Don't worry about you're.
you're *
@@katyungodly You're me bucko.
Dude's talking about idolatry yet who has a golden idol in the form of Trump?
Cultist cretins
I'll take hell over a heaven filled with people like this.
Amen
Hell is where you will find all the really interesting people!
Hell is too hot to be interesting❗❗❗
@@Matthew_Butcher And back to the eternal question we never stop asking and you never ever answer; how do you know there is even a hell, what evidence do you have that this place exists and is not a complete fantasy punishment dreamed up by people, usually men, as a result of your frustration at not being able to bring earthly justice to every earthly evil-doer? In your minds, there just has to be a hell so......there is a hell!
I can't say I blame you for thinking that! I would almost say the same thing, except I do want to go to heaven! But yeah, I wouldn't want it filled with this kind of people. Fortunately (for the rest of us, not for them), I'm pretty sure those guys are not going to heaven, but will most likely end up in the other place; in which case, you *don't* want to be there!!
As an atheist who does not care much for any particular religion I say this much, MLK jr. was orders of magnitudes a better Christian who tried to adhere to the actual teachings of their messiah Jesus Christ, which was love thy neighbour at its very core, than all of these so called televangelists combined past, future and present.
The televangelists have replaced Jesus with Trump.
The exact same rationale for the inquisitions. Dude is seriously living in the dark ages, in his mind.
jepp, "its my way or you will go to HELL!!" ...
All of them fanatical religious Zealots. Especially those in the South. 😬😒🤨
That don't support any freedoms ! Martin Luther king was one of the most Godly men in our times. This is just disturbing and sad 😢
_REVEREND_ king wasn't a Christian???
Fking WHAT?
He probably has Klan robes in his closet.
He apparently didn't hate gays enough. These people judge other's Christianity and morality by how much they hate gay people.
subtle racist moment from macarthur
Blacks can't be Christian nationalists
@zaidnava3728 I'm not certain that assuming race was the reason is completely justified. People like him are required to believe that EVERY other sect are wrong, even if run by a preferred racial group.
I'm not saying he ISN'T racist, just that I didn't see any indication of it in this video.
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with thier own desires." Susan B. Anthony
My far - right brother got COVID! ( Refused to wear a mask.) He ended up with a huge hospital bill n damage to his heart! They're so wrapped up in their claims. To me; they're sacrificing their own!😢
Is he still low IQ?
I'm guessing after that harrowing experience was all over his next words weren't "yeah I'm a moron".
@@eldenlion5850 as far as I know, he hasn't changed his position. We rarely talk...
@@eldenlion5850 No it was, Jeebus saved me.
@@eldenlion5850 There were people who went to hospitals and got diagnosed with COVID who would scream and spit and fling filth at nurses trying to treat them because they refused to believe they had COVID.
Bro really said the quiet part out loud 😂
Quit saying "the quiet part, the quiet part, the quiet part." Because they certainly are NOT quiet about all of it!!!
They use to call them snake oil salesmen, flimflam men…once they got on the radio, our decline was imminent.
Can't just blame them, blame the idiots that fall for it too.
King was the strongest person we’ve had in many years.
yep and tried to make peace with blacks and whites.
@@viviennemorgan7217 One of the few who tried to embody "Love thy enemy." -JH Christ
@@sue-o8245 yep
@@sue-o8245I think there were plenty of people who practiced that during the Civil Rights Movement. Dr. King was certainly the major voice in the Civil Rights Movement, but the reason we saw any success in the movement is due to tone of people working together for that cause. One man does not make a movement.
@@Quinntus79 Quite right. I didn't really phrase it well. I meant on the list of famous American heroes, not the whole movement.
What he's really saying is that only *his* brainwashed version of religion is relevant.
Wait!
Is that what America had always been?
This is why America has many religious denominations.
Hello McArthur?
In what country have you been living all this time?
He is now contradicting himself when he says this. Because America had many different religious denominations.
He is dilutional for sure.
Like it or not, john, this country was founded on secularism.
This country was founded on so many lies its not funny. But religion wasn't part of that.
Separation of Church and State was one of the founding principles.
@@mikepeterson443”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”
First line of the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights. I always hear people say, “The phrase separation of church and state is not in the Constitution.” Which while technically true, it’s not there word for word; the first line of the first amendment clearly states, no state run churches or religions.
@@Quinntus79 I always respond to that with "God isn't in the constitution either"
The preachers KNEW the grift wouldn’t be as good if the gullible weren’t there in person
"I don't even support religious freedom"
-So you want to be forced to be a Catholic?
My co-worker, who is a Jehovah's witness complains about my earrings and the toppers I put on my glasses. ( the pins i wear) Most of it is halloween based. So, skulls, bats, witchy stuff, LGBTQ+ stuff, and so on. They told her that none of it is inappropriate, so i can wear it if i want.
Pretty funny. I hope you keep doing that just to bother her
@bigjalapeno7061 oh I 100% do. So i go out of my way to find pins that are work appropriate that are gay or witchy.
You should wear that stuff just to piss her off. Wear a big ass rainbow hat during pride month and stuff
It's also none of her business how you dress
@@ladymalkavian8710 Lol nice. That's funny
The sole reason our founding fathers decided on religious freedom in the first place was because they didn't want a required "State religion" in the first place. So many of the colonists had come over here because they were being heavily persecuted in their home countries for believing differently. Some of our Fathers were not even Christians, they were Deists. We have soooo many freedoms in this country, and religious freedom is one of many. So essentially, McArthur wants everyone to not have a choice in what to believe or not to believe. Sounds like State religion to me.
The pastor wants to play god and be in charge of people's freedoms.
Yep
If he is very lucky his vision of no religious freedom won't come while he is alive. The odds of the "One True Church" ordained by the government being HIS is essentially zero. He would hate being defrocked and forced to attend and live by the standards of whatever denomination won that position.
Religious freedom is Biblical. The Bible teaches us to not force our beliefs on others. Each person who repents should do so from their own choice, and those that do not repent should not be forced.
Where?
Oooo I need that Intel from the text too if available! Ty!
Actually the god in the Bible commanded genocide, specifically including the murder of woman, children and suckling. So yeah, a lot of freedom. Also, a big flood if people exercise freedoms.
Jesus told his disciples to preach, in one of the gospels, and he said if someone doesn't want to hear the message of the kingdom go your own way, "their soul is on them".
In Matthew...
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
And when ye come into an house, salute it.
And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
The very fact that John MacArthur is able to stand up and preach from his pulpit week after week is ONLY possible because of religious freedom. So is he saying he rather be persecuted and his congregation be jailed or even put to death?
Logic is SATANIC. It is HELLISH. It is EVIL. It is COMMUNIST and ATHEIST. It is NOT of CHRIST.
Naw, he's saying he thinks evangelicals have such disproportionate representation in government, such capture of the courts, and so many great legal victories that they no longer need to pay lip service to the idea of religious freedom.
McArthur's old, he wants a taste of the authoritarian power he craves to position himself at the top of an unequal society. He has made it clear that, given the first opportunity, he will rob all others of their rights, and the right to freedom of religion is one of the first.
Christians have nothing if they're not perceived as being persecuted.
Thank god I've never watched John McArthur. He was well touted while I was in church though. If I had seen any of this stuff back then, I would been fuming. What an ass.
Doesn’t he think that God can force you to worship him but he gives you a choice? Straight up Christian nationalist.
That word, "worship" has always been a problem for me. Worship, submission. Ain't gonna happen.
Get me a pizza, my bible allow me to ask you for a pizza and you shall and will pay for it. :)
Nobody that's worthy of worship, would demand it.
@@lokelaufeyson9931 just like the wall. Mexico will pay!!!
@@Nava9380 NOBODY. No exceptions.
When the Flu Pandemic of 1918 happened in March, the symptoms were exactly the same, and it also killed many people in that year as well.
The people were also mandated to wear masks and to keep their distance from each and to stay home to protect themselves and others.
This was exactly the same thing that happened here again in March of 2020 and people also died in this year just like in March of 1918 but the people from 1918 were more afraid of the virus than the people of this generation were.
Generally speaking, countries with people that actually wore their masks had lower deaths per million than those that didn’t.
Not surprisingly, the US had a fairly high deaths per million total when compared to other countries… which is particularly bad when you consider that the US has far superior healthcare than most countries.
Even if he was another religion ( I know he was a Christian) Martin Luther King went out to the streets ...what do tv evangilists do ? Hide behind a pulpit. 🤦
agreed i perfer dr king over elders.
And demand money!
Freedom for me but not for thee mentality 😒 Just one of a plethora reasons I de-converted
I was under the understanding that King's non-violent stance was based on his Christian belief system.
Well he won’t have long to wait to find out how ignorant he was.
If that fool doesn't believe in religious freedom...let him go live in North Korea....Kim will love him 🙄🤦
Neither I nor my husband have caught COVID, and we are under no illusions about how lucky we are.
They don’t support religious freedom? Wow, we did not see that coming.
Harder to pass thst basket around on Zoom or the parking lots. Sure, there was such a thing as PayPal, but the older church folk get confused by all this computer stuff
The crazies are alive and well in merka.
When you try to eliminate religious freedom then that allows other religions to force their belief's on you.
That's exactly what he wants is to force his particular beliefs on everyone.
"We support the beTRUTH!" I think that would make a fun T-shirt!
Yeah, like he gets to decide who is and isn't a christian.
John this is just embarrassing that atheists have a harder grip (pause) on biblical understanding than most pastors.
Most atheist have a better understanding of scripture because they approach it from a cynical standpoint,not a believers standpoint.Which of course how science is practiced,the way it should be
I literally said this same thing to my Bible study group last wk. I love those guys but you should have seen their faces when I explained I watch a few atheist content creators.
This pastor is a good reason why. So many people espousing freedom and the constitution have no grasp that the rights within apply to everyone.
Thank you Owen for this video. John McArthur was well respected and preaching the Bible accurately, in the 80’s. I remember parents used to listen to him on Christian radio growing up in that era. I lost all respect for him when he condemn Biden inauguration as President, for one saying that the President is wrong for welcoming Muslims in the United States, because their religion is evil. But he was silent about the evils of Trump, not condemning him for his sins. This breaks the camel back. He doesn’t support religious freedom? That’s a guaranteed right in the US Constitution. Since it enacted, there was never any religious persecution i against Christians the US.
If freedom of religion is taken away, then there will be Christian persecution!! What is he talking about!?!? With all due respect, MacArthur needs to retire as Pastor.
I’m a Believer in Christ, Owen, thank you for respecting my faith, all faiths. I may disagree with your beliefs about God, I respect you.
Amen!!!
Amen!!!
You still respected him when his main position was homophobia?
@@totalbrainfail1812 ur wrong about him needing to retire. He needs to go live in North Korea
Despicable 🤦🏽♂️🤬💩
What a fool. What makes him think his religious ideas will be the one chosen? What will he do if religious freedom is revoked and he is banned?
But who is the crazy one here? One man who says such things and means it.....or the countless millions who silently obey that man?
I haven't had COVID, but i have barely left home in 4 years. I don't miss getting sick. No longer working in a call center, and working from home instead? It was my dream even before COVID.
Me and my mom got covid once but it wasn't that bad. I know it was bad for some other people though
@@bigjalapeno7061 yeah, I have a couple medical things that could complicate it
Religious freedom does actually mean everybody has the right to go to hell in their own way, however that is the price for free will, moral agency, responsibility for ones choices.
McArthur cannot say that about M. L. K. He is no more Christian than M. L. K. was!
Yep
yeah
I'd say Dr. King was a lot closer to actually being a true Christian than John McArthur is.
@@denisemayosky1955 dr king is a true christian than john.
“So the Lord knew you needed to be inside and unmasked”. What? Why do they speak for the Lord when they don’t know what God is thinking to begin with. That is so arrogant. God not only showed us moral compass but he gave us intellect to reason and make good decisions in every aspect of our lives so that we could be safe and prosper not only spiritually but physically. Some of these evangelicals are in their own world
This guy has his own study Bible... The John MacArthur study Bible.
The idea of putting your name and your own thoughts in a Bible just doesn't sit right.
It's a disgrace
Owen, I thought I was immune from Covid because I never had it, not until last month in February that I had a trip to NYC and came back sick. I live next door in Connecticut, btw. So it took a long time for it to catch up to me. Lol
So? Why does it matter to him where my soul ends up? Why does he care if I worship different gods and maybe have an alter in my house?
Because he loves you and don't want you to go to hell.😂
@@charlesmiller8107 LOL I love sarcasm Thank you. :)
@@charlesmiller8107I might believe others feeling that way (I would, for one!), but it's hard to believe he actually cares, seeing he had no concern for his congregants, whom he exposed to COVID when he didn't have to.
Altar.
John MacArthur has been doing this way too long. He’s more kooky now than he ever has been. I recently heard him say that the resurrection of Jesus is an indisputable undeniable fact. Really, he actually said this. He is so deluded I’m not surprised by all the crazy stuff I hear him say anymore.
My parents haven't tested positive for Covid yet. Pretty damn lucky given they're in their 80s.
Whenever I think I have the measure of John MacArthur, he takes me by surprise and makes me realize that once again I underestimate how hateful this guy is.
His belief that religious freedom has sent people to Hell, is him expressing a faux concern. BUT, let’s pretend he’s being genuine in his concerns. Didn’t his god give us free will? If so, why shouldn’t I have the freedom to choose to go to Hell, assuming one actually exists? So, his failure to support my “god giving right,” to exercise my free will, is him telling god he’s wrong. Wouldn’t that be blasphemy?
So these televangelists don't support free will.
When I was v religious, I had the John MacArthur study Bible. I tried listening to his sermons on xtian radio, but his tone and demeanor were so hateful, I couldn't listen. That was at the height of my zealousness, and I couldn't stomach him then (I was so into evangelism, I annoyed the ppl I went to church with), so, yeah, he's pretty bad
What a nasty guy.
I've never had it. I followed all the rules and never got it.
i caught before the mask mandate.. it was a milder variant on x-mas 2019 but it was like a 2-3 month bout of Bronchitis, and everything smelled like rancid onions for a year after and i couldn't eat fried foods as they tasted like the rancid smell.. the only thing that still affects me is that now Tortilla chips (basic ones not Doritos) taste like a hint of lime Though it has died down over time, it was like licking a lime / drinking cheap lemon juice concentrate after i felt better. So i was fine during the entire lockdown. it sucked lol.
He is against freedom of religion but he is currently expressing his freedom of religion? So confusing.
he just said the quiet part out loud. XD
The religious and their gods apparently don't understand how being convinced of an assertion actually works
I've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan and Iran. I can give you details from the bad smell to the horrible sites. Can any pastor or Christian that believes in a place called Hell tell us what it smells like or the horrible site there? Hell no!!
The essence of religious freedom was described by the US Supreme Court in in Torcaso vs Watkins in 1961: It is a right to worship any diety you want, as well as a right to believe in none. The state cannot promote one religion over another, or all religions over none.⚖️👍
Bill burr said it best you are born into the religion of your parents.....very few break free or even consider anything else
The right to be free from any religion Is just as important as the right to freely practice a religion
Take away this monster’s tax exempt status.
They just sound like toddlers throwing a temper tantrum because they want what they want! Seems like a little too much pride and stubborness... sounds like a petty brat!!
These people believe that they are infallible and any who disagrees is in error and error has no right.
Well yea that is true but it's not just religious right wing people. People on the left are like that too
A truly adamant believer would absolutely say that freedom of religion is untenable. The bible clearly states that salvation is ONLY through Jebus. Given enough power I am dead certain they would enforce a christian only world firmly believing that they would be saving everyone in the end. The means to that end would be debatable but given how history has played out I would not be surprised by anything done by a zealot. This man really is saying the quiet part out loud, people should see it for what it is, dangerous thinking that nearly any religious zealot would or could espouse.
King most certainly did NOT have a good reputation among White fundamentalists when he was alive. He was repeatedly criticized a a communist, a rabble-rouser and a threat to the American way. Many of the celebrated his death.
It took about 10 years to start, but King's reputation was effectively whitewashed by American Christians. He was recast as a champion of assimilation, a pacifist who opposed militancy and (eventually) a good Republican. Secular media helped: it emphasized his commitment to non-violence while de-emphasizing the role of Christianity in King's message.
MacArthur's take on King is outdated to be sure, but it is no less distorted than that held by other evangelists who claim to be his inheritors.
I’ve been binge watching your vids and I can’t get enough❤ I listen to them at 1.5 or double speed so I can get through more in a faster amount of time 😅 keep up the good work 🎉
These people are truly awful - putting people at risk just to prove a point and be a 'big man' what a jerk
King appeared to question or reinterpret certain traditional Christian doctrines, including the physical resurrection of Jesus.
Why's he got his hands up? Like someone's coming at him?
John MacArthur isn’t a televangelist. He’s a cook for sure, but he’s not one of them
Dude, THEY told me that the line of people going to hell is so long that even Purgatory is getting filled up.
John MacArthur's videos get examined and it's kind of like when a kid sees a lion at a zoo. The once mighty Lion, fearsome mammal and ruler on his own turf of the jungle, is just another of the hundreds of curious and interesting creatures to be examined and made a spectacle of for leisure and analysis.
A lot of Christian Nationalists tout how the "religious freedom" was from "nothing but a letter Ben Franklin wrote". They dismiss the importance this letter had that was actually related to the Constitution itself. They dismiss religious freedom altogether. And then they say how persecuted they are. Well, are they forced to be Christian? No. They have religious freedom, just like everyone else. They want and have the freedom to worship how they want, because there is no State religion. But people like Bobert believe there should be a "Biblical Citizenship test" (her words, not mine), which is an existing program in many churches, that she thinks everyone in America must take in order to be an American citizen at all. Honestly, since I've left the church, I don't really see much religious persecution, toward any religion. It exists, but only by a little. And the only religion in this country, that pushes it's religion onto others, is Christianity.
I’ve never had Covid. I’m 63 and have spent the past 4 years at home. But many people have been through my house in that time and nearly all had it. I go out to doctors appointments and I used to go to Walmart and I’ve never had Covid. Maybe I should play a lottery ❤
They believe that other people should do what they say. Disagreement is not allowed. Religion has nothing to do with it, other than as an excuse.
Prime example of Evil-gelicals!
John is insane.
Yes, he's Christian.
acting like there aren't atheists actively infiltrating corporations and governments to troll these people is a disservice to those of us who are going undercover to actively troll them.
Lol these people really don't realize the red hat was the mark of the beast ... lmao ... delulu
Some people referred to Martin Luther King as a "communist." What a joke!
I didn’t get a confirmed case of COVID until late December 2023/early January 2024. I say confirmed because I tested positive. I likely had it previously but was either asymptomatic or thought it was a cold.
The church I went to in the past the pastor used to say that it was a captive audience at a funeral. So the salvation message had to be preached.
One word; HYPOCRISY!!!
He's an honest enemy at least.
Idolatry? Who cares about that? its all about freedom! if some guy wants to worship a golden calf I say let him! he ain't harming anyone!
If I've had Covid, I didn't have any symptoms from it.
I actually hadn't heard of John McArthur... Yes, do more on him 👍