I Watched the World’s Best Football Fans
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- Опубликовано: 3 сен 2023
- Ever since they miraculously won the Corona Cup in 2020, I had promised to one day visit Panathinaikos and witness their special fans myself. It's time. Sit back, grab a drink and enjoy a piece of pure football culture 🏟️❤️🔥
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If you’ve been to football games you know that an Olympic stadium is the #1 hardest place to create an atmosphere and they still did it, massive respect 🔥 BUUUT I heard Greek derbies in their regular stadium are even 10x crazier, should I come again for that? 👀☘️
Next time come to Thessaloniki Greece for Paok You won't be let down
Come to AEK vs Panathinaikos in the opap arena . It will be 10 times better than this
Go to a Standard Liège game against Charleroi or Anderlecht(Standard are currently 14th in a league with 16 teams,very bad time for me) At home against top teams Sclessin is a hell
Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce is better
Nah bro come to olympiakos stadium olympiakos vs panathinaikos listen me olympiakos fans are amazing. DONT DO THE mistake to watch a derby in aek stadium.their fans suck.
As an Italian, Brignoli is the GOAT GK. In 2018 (I think) he gave Benevento their first Serie A point with a 96th minute equalizer
I know!! Benevento is where my Italian family is from 😂
Brignoli is honestly really underrated
Truuuee i remember that like It was yesterday
@@Fiagohaha grande Bro ma dal lato di tuo padre tutti Juventini o qualche 🐐strega?
It's a pleasure to have him in our team. ☘
What a leader and a personality!
As a Panathinaikos fan who was in the stadium that night,I have to say even though we lost,the atmosphere was ecstatic and I hope it stays that way during our next matches in the Europa League
i have nothing to do with greece or panathinaikos but just because of your insanneeeeee support i hope you go really far in Europe this season.
I was there as well ! ☘️☘️
You should come to leoforos too its crazy
If you met fiago om your stadium you must kickout him !!!
Unless you want your club to lose ....
☘️
*It's great to be heard the name of Panathinaikos and his fans worldwide, so we owe you a big «thank you» for your support and the plans you have spread on the net! Keep it up mate, tricko13!* ☘️
🙏☘️
tricko θα βγαλεις highlights με τη νοβα μεστο?
Μπράβο ρε tricko13 είσαι δικός μας άρρωστος πραγματικά.
@@Fiago☘️☘️☘️ Panathinaikos Anthem-> (the Google translate is kinda bad)
Σύλλογος μεγάλος δεν υπάρχει άλλος
δεν υπάρχει άλλος πιο δυναμικός
και χιλιάδες φίλοι, μόλις δουν τριφύλλι,
ζήτω λένε ο Παναθηναϊκός.
Παναθηναϊκέ Παναθηναϊκέ
Παναθηναϊκέ μεγάλε και τρανέ.
Παναθηναϊκέ Παναθηναϊκέ
πρωταθλητή σ’ όλα τα σπορ παντοτινέ.
Σ’ έχουνε δοξάσει οι γνωστοί σου άσσοι
που λεβέντες είναι όλοι με καρδιά.
Χαίρεται η Ελλάδα που `χει τέτοια ομάδα,
που της νίκης έχει πάντα τα κλειδιά.
Παναθηναϊκέ Παναθηναϊκέ
Παναθηναϊκέ μεγάλε και τρανέ.
Παναθηναϊκέ Παναθηναϊκέ
πρωταθλητή σ’ όλα τα σπορ παντοτινέ.
Yo fiago just wanted to say thanks for the good words for our fans. Many people dont mnow but Pana fans have lived tough times the last 12 years. Even last year we couldn't win the League even jf we were 1st place thw ehole year. However we never stopped supporting the club we love. Greetings from Greece💚
Respect 👊🇬🇷
Wish you guys the best from an Inter fan. We know what it's like to come incredibly close. έλα Παναθηναϊκός! 🇬🇷☘️🇬🇷
@@a-lambo-boi💪🏼
@@Fiagowe bottled it like arsenal at the game Vs Olympiacos
Man, they really shouted louder when a corner was conceded for them than when City won the Champions Leauge.
Hahaha
Because an earned corner is worth more than a bought title.
Since 2010, Panathinaikos had some terrible extremely difficult years. The team was struggling financially and was close to relegation in 2018. Furthermore, the team was out of european competitions for 5 consecutive years due to poor performances and hadnt played in a group stage since 2016. Althought things are turning better. Panathinaikos won the greek cup in 2022 and last year they lost the championship in the last matchday, the first time they challenged for the championship since 2010. So, if you take all those things into consideration, you can understand why the fans were cheering even after the loss. Panathinaikos, after being so many years outside of europe, was so close from being in the champions league group stage and was back in a group stage after 7 years and. This is a success and a return to normality for the most successful greek club(in Europe) and the fans are loving that
The team was out of european competition for 5 years not for poor performances but because it got a ban from UEFA after club president stopped paying the players.
@@THANASHACOS13 Panathinaikos did NOT quality for Europe in the first place, so the UEFA ban is irrelevant.
@@ComradeHellas ??? He was in the first places of the table in the years of the ban so it is relevant. He was in a rank to qualify but he wasnt eligible because of the ban
Greetings from Türkiye, its nice to see that Panathinaikos is back in UCL, just like our Galatasaray🦁, I send them my best wishes keep it going greens 🍀👊
Panathinaikos is in Europa League
Thank you my friend,Galata is the biggest team in Turkey you deserve that.Good luck in CL
@anastsi6767 Greece 🤝 Turkey
Having the best football fans. Good luck in UEL for you guys as well and Panathinaikos is the biggest club in Greece
@@Efeboss34 thank you bro i hope galata will reach very high in the ucl
Are you obsessed with Greece mongol?
Thanks for travelling to Greece, my home country, I love how competitive its becoming! You should watch more games in Greece!
I will 🙌🇬🇷
This stadium in Athens looks like the stadium where Magath hammered the ball behind Dino Zoff in 1983 when HSV won the European Cup on that magic night
What if I told you, this was exactly where it happened? 💙
@@Fiago Hopefully we'll lift that trophy again some day... NDHSV 👊
@@Fiagoit was also the host to the 1994 and 2007 ucl finals
Yes thats the stadium and i was there when HSV Won the European cup
@@nikgreek1830 lucky you👍remember having goosebumps watching it live on tv, let alone if you're in that stadium. Best HSV team ever
I don't know if you go to basketball games, but you have to come back to Athens to watch a basketball game of Panathinaikos, a derby maybe to see the amazing atmosphere there
Panathinaikos fans support the Team in all sports such as volleyball Women and men and as in others ☘️💚🙌🏽
Good idea!
@@FiagoPremier in Euroleague against olympiacos 6th October in OAKA , will be absolutely freaky☘️
@@FiagoFiago, he is right. A basketball derby at OAKA indoor is something else. You need to come on a Euroleague derby
Μη του το λετε γιατι θα ερθει θα φατε πουτσα και θα πεταξετε παλι καπνογονα για να μην φατε 50
As a fan of Panathinaikos I went to OAKA with Braga, for the second time in OAKA and it was an impressive experience I was at the gate 20 OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES Bravo Fiago Panathinaikos only ☘️☘️☘️
Fiago για αυτό σε αγαπάμε ☘️☘️🇬🇷🇬🇷
❤️🇬🇷
@@Fiagoyou translate greek to English?
@@reborn_revan he said that's why we love you ❤️🇬🇷☘️
@@christosdakoulas6064 ρε μαλακα Έλληνας είμαι απλά θέλω να ξέρω αν το έκανε μετάφραση ή μπας και ξέρει και ο ίδιος καθόλου ελληνικά
@@Fiagobro visit renovated Santiago bernebeau for Los Blancos match
so happy that you enjoyed the experience
I will DEFINITELY come back for that!!
2036 thes na peis🤣
God you're an idiot..
@@ariadnisainis Ρε φίλος , καλύτερα να μην μιλάς αν δεν ξέρεις , το γήπεδο θα είναι έτοιμο ΤΟ ΠΟΛΥ σε 32 μήνες , οι κατασκευαστικές έχουν υπογράψει για αυτό . Επίσης τώρα τελειώνουν τον καθαρισμό του οικοπέδου και την ανάλυση του εδάφους και σε 2 μήνες μπένουν μέσα οι εταιρείες να αρχίσουν τα έργα .
@@FiagoOur stadium turned 100 years old... A lot of memories in this stadium 😢. But Botanikos will be a great EUROPEAN STADIUM ☘️💪
You should definitely come back to Greece for the Europa League games of all the Big 3 teams and compare the atmosphere! Will be a nice experience for you to see the different fans!
Fiago is so genuine and interesting and his knowledge makes the videos so worthwhile! thank you so much Fiago
Thanks for the kind words ❤
@@FiagoThank you for the vids!
Welcome to Greece Fiago, lets hope you can visit us again in a Greek derby, thats going to be a thousand times wilder
The only Greek football club to reach the European Cup final in 1971, with the legendary Ferenc Puskás as their manager. They would lose to the Ajax side that won three European Cups in 1971, 1972 and 1973, with a certain Johan Cruyff in their team.
As a Panathinaikos fan who has been watching you since the start, I am so happy you came to the match even though it was an unfair L
🙏
I guessing you haven't heard of Fiago Effect.
You must watch the derby with olympiacos in leoforos.This is the biggest greek derby and the atmosphere was 🔥 ☘️☘️☘️
Μόνο και μόνο για να ξαναβγεί 0-0😂 καλύτερα να παει σε ΠΑΟ-ΑΕΚ
@@rrealgrκαι αυτο 0-0 ηρθε 2 φορες κιολας
@@AlexGR321 για πρόσφατα μιλάω
@@rrealgr ε ναι τα ματς στα πλέι οφ της ΑΕΚ και του Παναθηναϊκού ήρθαν 0-0 και τα 2 δεν έχει κάτι ποιο πρόσφατο
Bro the stadium is a piece of art and the crowd is incredible.
Thank you fiago for your support. We hope one day our teams play each other again
Don't forget we also played the UCL semi final both in 1985 against Liverpool and in 1996 against Ajax again and until 2010 we have been reaching the round of 16 or the round of 8 many times
True! Iconic club
I was in the stadium that night.Much love from all Panathinaikos fans,brother!!!☘☘☘
I was really sad when we got knocked out by Braga. But I believe that Panathinaikos will compete in the Europa League. Also yoy should definetly watch more matches of Panathinaikos.
I am from Greece , I dont support any team , and I have got to say most of our clubs have " the best fans" . Also keep in mind that this game happened a couple of days after a sad death of a football fan in Athens so the security was strict and not many people could carry pyro to the stadium . BTW you missed a big chance on AEK Championship winning match ( I was wokring as a security there ) , it was in their new stadium and they also won the cup so you imagine . Some other basketball matches between Olympiakos and Panathinakos have great atmosphere aswell! Thank you for visiting Greece!
Fiago , I love your videos and I just can't describe how happy I am you went to watch my club ! Love you and also you should learn more info about this club , its history is bigger than some clubs that nowdays play in the Ucl . Went to the Ucl final and 2 times in the semi - finals . Panathinaikos fans were waiting for the club's comeback for years , because from 2010 to 2020 it was really sad to see your club being won by unknown greek clubs and being almost at the bottom of the league . We are excited for the Europa league and can't wait to see Panathinaikos glow in Europe once again . ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘☘
Means a lot man!! What a huge club PAO is, I can’t wait to see you in Europa League finally back in European competition where they belong 🙏
@@Fiago You have to come to Panathianikos Villareal on September 21th in OAKA . Trust me , the stadium will be 10 times worse than that ! It will be your closest experience to hell , trust me . ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘☘☘☘
As a Panathinaikos fan I just want to say thank you to the goat Fiago
Mono Pao!!!
Wow that's some support!! 🍀 great vid mate unlucky on the result 👏
Cheers Quinny 🙌
Lots of love from greece im a panathinaikos fan and i loved this video im really happy that my favourite team which is not really famous is loved by a huge youtuber like you
Thank you for coming to our country and visiting our team , you are always welcome here ☘💚🇬🇷
Amazing video Fiago, you are the best footballing YT right now, love to see your passion for the game and giving coverage to teams like Panathinaikos!
Thank you Peter means a ton :)
What an atmosphere & video 🔥
Thanks John ❤️
As a Panathinaikos fan and and a fan of your channel too. I can say that not only I want to thank you for doing this video, but also in behalf of every Greek, you show respect to this country, even at its hardest part at the moment. I had suggested to go to the the biggest rivalry in Greece, Panathinaikos and Olympiakos, but I didn't expect you to come to a UCL Play-Off game like this. I'm upset that my club didn't enter this competition's Group Stages, but Europa League isn't that bad too. Thank you Fiago. Love from Greece!
The whole balkans is just crazy i highly recommend making a tour of the big games some time in the future love the vids
always a banger when Fiago uploads.
Damm Fiago really living the dream! Cant say he doesn't deserve it though, dudes the G.O.A.T of football content
Thanks brooo🙏
A a Greek i can confirm that our football stadium are going crazy especially at derbies!
Thanks for support our team mate! Truly amazing this team, we wish to get back with European beasts in UCL next few years!
I have been a Panathinaikos fan since birth and I havent been in the legendary OAKA since I was 6 years old(10 years ago). I went in the match vs Braga and it was mental. I watch all the Panathinaikos games and it was really unfortunate not to qualify for the UCL. I hope you had fun with the best fans in Greece!
As my family and I are panathinaikos fans we appreciate that you went to see the best football club in Greece
Thanks dude for visiting us and promoting our club
Thanks for the warm welcome 💚
Fiago , if what you saw that day was great, in leoforos during a derby is even crazier. The stadium being smaller helps making the atmosphere scary for other teams. I would recommend coming for panathinaikos vs Olympiacos, the biggest derby in Greece.
I am a Panathinaikos fan and yes the fans are CRAZY
Only Panathinaikos can fill up an Olympic stadium and make it louder than their actual stadium. Tryfilara ☘️☘️. You should come to Panathinaikos vs olympiakos and I guarantee you you will love it.
Τι ονλι Παναθηναϊκός ρε η ΑΕΚ το 2018-19 στο Τσουλου τι έκανε;;
@@rrealgr Μετρημένες φορές το έχετε γεμίσει φίλε
@@gian13. Ο ΠΑΟ δλδ αμέτρητες;
@@rrealgr πουλο πήρατε αυτό κάνατε
Fiago i watch you 1 year and i love your videos also iam from Greece and i love Panathinaikos ΣΕ ΑΓΑΠΑΜΕ FIAGO LOVE FROM GREECE💚💚💙💙
Of course Fiago Jinxed it for panathinaikos 😅😅😅
Fiago is th football gift that keeps on gifting🎁
I am an Olympiacos fan, but I am so glad you came back to my country and enjoyed the great greek football atmosphere! You have to come to some Europa League games!💙💙
you should visit a greek derby in order to experience all the phyro etc It gets crazy cause you dont have any serious punishments like you do in champions league
Great video Fiago. Thank you for visiting Athens for the best Greek team Panathinaikos
Thank you man for the support. Panathinaikos will come back to Champions League one day and we hope you come see the first match back where we belong. 💪🏼☘️
Bro massive respect for visiting panthinaikos
🙏
Even though I support Olympiakos, I feel grateful for your respect for the Greek football culture and fans. Hopefully this season you'll come see my team play too in a big derby or the Europa League!
Edit: Please don't jinx us either haha
Thanks for respecting the portuguese people that made the journey to Greece🇵🇹
i was there, it was sad that they didnt qualify, either way, an absolute amazing match, happy you liked being in my country
PAN (means whole - like pan-Demic)
ATHINA IKOS (Athens -Athenian)
The team of whole Athens…
Fiago although AS Roma are having a bad start in the season, I still highly recommend watching one of their games at the stadio olimpico. They're energy and chants are unbelievable and always go crazy with the flares.
Fratelli ☘️🤝🐺
Il calcio è bello dal 1927 ❤💛
Curva sud Roma X Gate 13
Brothers 🇬🇷🇮🇹 ☘️🐺
As a teenager, this used to be, just an other Wednesday or even Sunday, I missed this so much, we got a glimpse this year, I wish we ll be back next year as champions this time
Mate u should definitely be there at the match with our rival, olympiacos, in leoforos stadium. It will surely be an unforgettable memory of urs. I'm telling u, it'll be an awesome experience.
Hey fiago as someone who lives in greece greek derbies are crazy you should come to panathinaikos vs aek later this month
Nice to see a football vlogger who actually participates with the crowd instead of one of those Thogden types who practically steals tickets from real fans
You’re amazing for this man
Thank you for all Fiago! Panathinaikos are the best fans in thw world
Come Leoforos against Olympiakos.
crazy and hard atmosphere ☘️🇬🇷
As a Greek person all our teams have this atmosphere
At least the Big 5!
You must come to Leoforos against Olympiacos ! These champions league matches are like a picnic ,no flares ,no nothing 😅
Love your videos😁
Thank you!
Fiago with another upload 🔥
Hey, Fiago, I am from Portugal and I am completely in love with your videos and your dedication to what truly matters in football: the fans.
If you want a recommendation of a great game with an insane atmosphere here in Portugal, I would suggest the Minho derby between Braga and Vitória or any Benfica away game. It Will blow your mind.
Cheers!
Thanks man means a lot!! Portugal is still on my bucket list...thanks for the suggestion :)
@@Fiago Keep up the good work!
@@Fiago0 bias against Braga
This is normal for us here in Greece. I have two games that won't disappoint you. Paok vs aris the local derby of Thessaloniki. And Frankfurt vs paok in Germany with 20000 paok fans
Οχι 20 βαλε κατι παραπάνω τουλάχιστον 80 χιλιαδες 😂
Σωστός 😂
Ήρεμα μπόμπο , το παόκι δεν έχει καν συνολικά 20000 οπαδούς 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@anastsi6767 Ναι ρε θα έρχονται σε λαοθάλασσες , θα απορούν οι Γερμανοί θα λένε "WAS IST DAS?" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@user-yv9cl1ko5yΣωστός. Έχουμε 19000 οπαδούς και ένα εκατομμύριο όρκς.
Ich bin Panathinaikos Fan aber wohne in Hamburg, danke dass du Hamburg repräsentieren konntest
Heres a story about pana. When my family and I went to greece the ucl and uel qualifying games were happening. AEK Athens and Dinamo Zagreb were about to play ucl qualifying game, But just before that disaster struck and because pana and zagreb are sister clubs, pana and zagreb fans came together and ambushed some AEK fans. One croatian brought a knife and slashed an AEK fan causing Michallis Katsouris to die of blood loss. The problem was marsielle and AEK are sister clubs and the marsielle fans were pissed. Many french were spotted with weapons before Panathinaiakos' game with marsielle. It started an uprising in Greece and the only good thing was that aek beat zagreb with their players celebrating their goals with lifting the black armband. I support Olympiacos and when my dad and I went to an OLY game the atmosphere was crazy aswell because greek fans are crazy good at supporting their club. Many players have been celbrating their goals with signs to Michallis and I wish his family the best. Sorry for it being long.
Η Θύρα 13 είναι αυτό που δεν μπορείς να φανταστείς αν δεν το ζεις...είναι μεγαλείο είναι χόρτο μαγικό τι να σου πω.?Θα τρελαθωωω
Είναι ένα χόρτο μαγικό...
I am from Greece and I have to admit that we have the most crazy atmosphere in the world no doubt
Καλα χαλαρωσε. Γελαει η Λατινικη Αμερικη και οι ομαδες της Καζαμπλανκα
@@chrismand eimaste omws plithismiaka ypervolika ligoteroi san xwra kai tous kontraroume
@@chrismand χαλαρός είμαι ήρεμα στο κρεβατάκι μου
@@chrismandθύρα 4 joined the chat.
I am from Greece and suport Panathinaikos
Fiago you are one of us,love you man
☘️❤️
Please go watch a UCL game at Galatasaray or the Gala vs Fener derby in GS's stadium, it has got crazy atmosphere although it's not as it was back then.
I just like this man like how he shows the real football like about the fans the atmosphere even those clubs are not that much famous in world wide
That's the goal bro! There's enough RUclipsrs out there who talk about the elite clubs already. Any other underrated fanbases/clubs I should visit?
@@Fiago go see olympiakos v panathinaikos dervy
@@Fiagoyeeeees you will go through hell no matter the stadium you'll go in
Fenerbahçe v Galatasaray@@Fiago
@@Fiago i would say Mohun Bagan in india
Amazing video Fiago but you should go to the Thessaloniki derby Paok against Aris the two best teams from the city. The atmosphere in these derbys is just insane
Great video, Fiago
Thank you Fiago. 💚☘️
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@@Fiagopanathinaikos boos their team after a loss pathetic, they are no where near the best fans
As a Sporting fan I wanted Braga to loose because they finished higher than us in the league last season and now i want them to lose even more because they prevented us from getting a headstart and being first in the league
Sporting panathinaikos green brothers 🟢⚪️🤝☘️⚪️🟢
@@mrhunter3220 yes
AS a Panathinaikos fan i have to say you have to see a Panathinaikos vs Olympiakos match
You got to go to an Alemannia Aachen match at some point. Even though they only play Regionalliga(4th division), their fans are worth at least 2.Bundesliga, averaging at 15.000 people each match. It is just an insane feeling in the Tivoli(their stadium)
Fiago you cant even imagine what happens on the greek league where the rules arenot that strict as in the champions League in the greek leyage we do a lot more you must go to a greek panathinaikos derby maybe with aek or olympiakos
I am Olympiakos fan but i feel very happy because guys like you support greek clubs now that they need this
come to Internacional's Beira-Rio stadium for the Libertadores semifinals on October 4th and witness not only the game but also the Streets of Fire: the pyro procession outside the stadium welcoming the team bus. IT'S MENTAL! We've had a record fundraising for this game meaning we'll have the largest Streets of Fire in history!
Based Fiago as always!
You should come to Leoforos as well.
Next time come to Thessaloniki Greece for Paok you won't be let down
Against Frankfurt? 👀
Yeah it would be a good one against Frankfurt but You could also visit Paok Vs Olympiacos or Paok VS Aris or Even Paok VS Aek the atmosphere will be Even more heated
@@FiagoIt's not a bad idea but it's not gonna be the same atmosphere
@@konstantinoskatsavos1782what u mean the same
@Fiago against Aris or Aek it will be amazing
*Fiago whit another W Vlog*
You should definitely come witness a Panathinaikos Basketball Game (vs Olympiakos euro league premier in October is will be crazy)
I knew that Braga would make it to the Champions League group stage as soon you posted outside their stadium. Panathinaikos have the best fans
If fiago says we are the best fans itw, then obv we are☘️☘️
Curse continues😂
Fiago thank you for your support we will be glad to have you again in our country and hopefully you witness a Greek derbi, Panathinaikos vs Olympiakos, the atmosphere is mental.
normally we have more fans , but when we found out the game was in greece the plane tickets were too much expensive because a lot of people were going to greece on vacation , so those were the ones with a bit more money than the rest, but good luck to panathinaikos in the UEL, hope u guys can go far
Yeah I thought so…
As a Panathinaikos fan who was in the stadium that night I must insure you even we lost the atmosphere was incredible. It was my first time seeing PAO in champions league and the emotions were 10x more strong. We were sitting right above of the ULTRAS and except that we were shouting like crazy because of this we also sensed better at the end when the players and us , the fans sang together.
I hope I see you at the other Europa Legue mathes and i really hope ilI meat you up close sometime. GOOD LUCK TO PANATHA BEAT RENNE, MACABI HAIFA AND VILLARREAL
Panathinaikos spread madness to the whole stadium. However, Greek teams have more fans that offer such an amazing atmosphere, especially Olympiacos', AEK Athens' and PAOK fans.
come watch PAOK in the Thessaloniki derby against Aris, the atmosphere is amazing in the Toumba stadium!
Although not a PAO fan myself i can easily say from experience you didnt even get the biggest atmoshpere . Due to the recent episodes that lead to the death of an AEK fan (PAO ultras help D.Zagreb ultras get illegally into the country) there was so much police and restrictions , hense why most away fans dont risk coming to greece cause the streets in the whole city of Athens are a turf war. In Derbies Vs Olympiacos who are their biggest rivals is where its at although it mostly always ends with tragic endings. Small clear up , the home stadium of PAO is actually named Apostolos Nikolaidis but it has gotten the Leoforos nickname (avenue in eng) since it sits right on Alexandra's street/avenue . Lastly thank you for supporting a club from our country and i hope you didnt get caught up in the others club/political episodes , unfortunally to keep the tradition of football we have to carry the burden of countless lives lost , many more being beaten stabbed exc and the whole hooligan stuff , dont get me wrong i adore the brotherhood in our football culture cause its unique to us greeks but in order for that to exist the cons will always be there.