Silent Hill - Book of Memories: SH Retrospective

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  • @eldridgecharles1313
    @eldridgecharles1313 4 года назад +387

    Watching Silent Hill go downhill feels like raising a kid only for them to get into a bad crowd, become a criminal and finally joining the Jersey Shore crew

    • @Zelix678
      @Zelix678 4 года назад +48

      And then straight to TMZ

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +55

      HAAAAAAAA! Holy shit this is accurate!

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 4 года назад +9

      no one will ever, more accurately describe this.

    • @HUNKxTofu
      @HUNKxTofu 4 года назад +1

      Yes.

    • @johnr4836
      @johnr4836 3 года назад +1

      @@AvalancheReviews tmz wrote an article about you speculating on your upload absence it was a hard hitting piece

  • @JustforKikX
    @JustforKikX 4 года назад +210

    This is literally Silent Hill: Diablo edition.......

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 4 года назад +15

      *Diablo Immortal edition

    • @jjenk911
      @jjenk911 4 года назад +7

      Indeed. The developers fucked up the Diablo aesthetic.

    • @samtepal3892
      @samtepal3892 4 года назад +2

      Diablo : We hate free speech edition. Oh wait that leagues of legends.

    • @deadchanneldontwatch7347
      @deadchanneldontwatch7347 4 года назад +8

      *do you guys not have phones?*

    • @Shervin86
      @Shervin86 4 года назад +3

      That's a new insult to Diablo! 🤭

  • @wettoaster.
    @wettoaster. 4 года назад +183

    Why didn't they make the main character Pyramid Head? It would make the hack and slash gameplay more 'believable' in the SH universe, and it would be a nice little blast of nostalgic catharsis

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +53

      That's......not a bad idea!

    • @wettoaster.
      @wettoaster. 4 года назад +5

      @@AvalancheReviews Thanks man! Great video, as always. I think I'll skip this one

    • @mysouptoocold1656
      @mysouptoocold1656 3 года назад +4

      Ph isn't it's own monster but I see it being better than this and downpour

    • @MoccaDeShibe
      @MoccaDeShibe 3 года назад +2

      You could kinda do this with the dead by daylight silent hill dlc ahaha

  • @michaelangeloreina4033
    @michaelangeloreina4033 4 года назад +118

    I worked on this game 9 years ago, I am surprised to see a review come out this recently. I enjoyed my time working that gig.

    • @LeetTron5000
      @LeetTron5000 2 года назад +6

      Lol epic if this is true. I didn't know it existed until now and I'm not agreeing with what I'm hearing. Looks like an enjoyable spinoff that accomplished what was asked. The expectations were just too specific, its fine the way it is.

    • @Halomcr
      @Halomcr 2 года назад +4

      so are there higher tier weapons? and loot in the game like if its gonna be like diablo. there has to be loot

    • @michaelangeloreina4033
      @michaelangeloreina4033 2 года назад +10

      @@Halomcr You can play Piramid head's sword for example, and a couple of other weapons, strong weapons from the series. I can't remember now if they were on a DLC though. But I remember making animations for for several higher tier weapons.

    • @ShantiDoss2000
      @ShantiDoss2000 2 года назад +2

      Is this a phone game.

    • @Swagmite
      @Swagmite 2 года назад +1

      Are you really a dev ?

  • @OSW
    @OSW 4 года назад +78

    Thanks for taking a bullet for us Jared! Painful to see SH treated this way, trotted out for whatever money-squeezing idea Konami have, franchise suitability be damned. Not quite as depressing as "SH: the gambling machine", but it's down there

    • @mondelsson
      @mondelsson 3 года назад +2

      Are you telling me that team silent would disapprove of a pachinko machine based on the IP?
      /s

    • @venomsnakessidepiece
      @venomsnakessidepiece 2 года назад +1

      it’s actually a good game

  • @SinderSoyl
    @SinderSoyl 4 года назад +87

    I would disagree on the fact that having a hack n' slash set in the Silent Hill universe is a great thing. It doesn't come from being a purist or anything, simply that since Silent Hill is a horror franchise, having those monsters be hacked by the dozen lessens their impact as terrifying creatures in their respective games, in my opinion.
    In Silent Hill, each encounter is supposed to feel a bit tense, with monsters being manageable one on one once you get a hold of the clunky combat mechanics, but additional monsters, even one, can make things go south real fast. But this tension may be partly negatively affected when in Book of Memories, you can just swing a gigantic sword a few times and kill 5 of them at once.
    Perhaps this is the kind of thing that doesn't affect everybody the same, but I absolutely think that this feeling of "the monsters are just pieces of meat for me to grind" can carry over.
    I would argue that there's quite a few genres that the Silent Hill franchise should avoid getting close to, in order to retain its effectivness as a horror series.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +15

      I think there's an inherent horror in some dungeon crawlers, and the SH monsters play into cool stuff like elemental alignments and different gameplay approaches pretty well. I agree the series tension isn't there when you're slicing through hundreds of bubble head nurses, but since this game is a spin off, it's under no obligation to have that same tension. Just seeing these characters and creatures in a different light/setting is pretty cool in my eyes. If it were a mainline entry in the series, you would be totally right, but spin offs are where a series gets to experiment and have fun. I like that.

    • @milenarkioshi4288
      @milenarkioshi4288 4 года назад +2

      In Silent Hill Origins, the amount of kills you get by the end of the game would help you in getting one of their endings.
      The game had many melee, thrown, firearms weapons to use, and with a durability system as well.
      Spoilers:
      What if the hack n slash aspect of the game, would be from the perspective of the villain, Walter from SH 4, or like, I think Vicent (might be wrong of the name), the guy from Silent Hill 3 tells Heather "you see them like monsters ?" As a sick joke.
      It could be pulled. But like anything, would require passion with the project, understanding of it's lore, and people with talent for story writting, telling, game play mechanics and yada yada.
      Like one of those many cases where fans and modding community makes the game run or play like it should by the Company who rushed a release or port of a game.
      *Edit some spelling

    • @RexVergstrong
      @RexVergstrong 4 года назад +4

      It's just a side game. Awful as it is, but it doesn't have to follow the exact same ruleset. People don't understand that.

    • @Xxsorafan
      @Xxsorafan 3 года назад

      Yea I remember being interested in the game but after playing realized it wasn’t scary in the slightest and stopped

    • @tiamod
      @tiamod 3 года назад +2

      I think literally any main SH game other than Shattered Memories could qualify as a hack n slash. Or more like a “Smash n’ Bash”.
      I’ve been playing SH2 on Normal for the first time in years (on PSNOW) , and honestly, these poor monsters haven’t stood a chance against me thus far. Easily outrunned, easily dodged, and then I just merciless beat the crap outta them with a wooden plank. I get this game is supposed to be scary and stuff, but SH2 is pretty much a Smash n’ Bash with not so great animation and tank controls.
      Not dissing the game by any means. And I’ve probably become desensitized to the monsters + aged mechanics, even though being in the apartments still makes me feel unnerved... but when it comes down to it, you can either run or fight... but at least in SH Homecoming, I feel far more threatened and unnerved by the monsters because they aren’t nearly as easy to deal with.
      I think you can have a scary game be filled with action. All the SH games other than SM has lots of it including 1-3... even if it’s just one swing animation over and over.

  • @happy5642642
    @happy5642642 4 года назад +33

    The devs who had to make a multi-player silent hill game requested by Konami be like: Bruh

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +7

      The bruh heard round the world

    • @Thebossstage1
      @Thebossstage1 4 года назад

      Haha, imagine trying to convince someone to purchase this game to play with you.

  • @thesynthscreamcollective
    @thesynthscreamcollective 4 года назад +59

    Fun fact about the games development history: The studio wanted to release the games both on current gen consoles and on the vita.. the fighting would still be like a standard dungeon crawler...but the exploration parts and puzzle solving would be made in third person view..using a flashlight.. but sadly.. konami wanted the game to use the vitas features, and it all went downhill from there
    And to be quite frank.. if only Bluepoint Games and Armature Studio were responcible for porting SH2 and 3 to the PS3, we would also have them on the vita instead of this, they did an amazing job with MGS HD on the PS3, and its such a shame we never got these two games on the home console and on a portable console, since i bet my ass that the vita could handle all 4 silent hill games on the go if in the right hands

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +17

      Yep you're absolutely right. If they had done the hd collection, the series might be in a totally different place right now.

    • @thesynthscreamcollective
      @thesynthscreamcollective 4 года назад +3

      @@AvalancheReviews we can only keep dreaming buddy...

    • @monkeybone1080
      @monkeybone1080 4 года назад +7

      Actually that's a popular misconception. The ports of MGS2 and 3 are lacking effects and other details as they just couldn't be re-created due to hardware quirks. So for example the rain effects on everything like dripping off soldiers are missing. So while they run well, they have their own issues.

    • @nikodemvankenobi
      @nikodemvankenobi 4 года назад

      @@monkeybone1080 Yeah, but, at the same time, they're full-fledged MGS games, on a handheld, and at the time, it was pretty impressive, don't know about you, but I can excuse the nuances.

    • @monkeybone1080
      @monkeybone1080 4 года назад +2

      @@nikodemvankenobi I wasn't talking about the handheld versions.

  • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
    @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 4 года назад +33

    Brother, I needed some more Jared in my life, I got smashed in my work truck on Monday. Thanks for doing what you, my favorite Cuban viking.

    • @mgrah3723
      @mgrah3723 4 года назад +5

      Hope your feeling okay

    • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
      @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 4 года назад +4

      @@mgrah3723 I have a headache and a concussion, but i feel fine, otherwise, thanks!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +6

      Damn!!! That sucks! I got smashed in Miami. Dude tboned me going 60. I know that shitty feeling. Feel better man.

    • @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson
      @DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 4 года назад +3

      @@AvalancheReviews these guys were going 60 or 65. I appreciate the kind words and I'm sorry that happened to you. Keep up the great work, my man!

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 4 года назад +1

      @@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson hope you're feeling much better now brother! Stay safe out there

  • @chrisr529
    @chrisr529 4 года назад +12

    And I used to be stressed this is the only sh game I don't have ..now I know

  • @catsthelimit763
    @catsthelimit763 4 года назад +8

    Yes! Notification pops up and everything in my life is dropped for 30 minutes. Thank you for making my morning!

  • @killerghostmonkey
    @killerghostmonkey 3 года назад +9

    This looks like exactly the game I've been looking for... when I want to play a Diablo clone. It's a shame knowing that it fails to satisfy that extremely specific cross genre itch of blending SH aesthetic and world building with rogulike mechanics. One of my favorite experiences of the original SH was when, towards the end of the game, you couldn't be sure what environment you'd arrive in when you passed through a door- that type of scenario could lend itself well to a roguelike. Remnant from the Ashes shows that a horror rogulike can be a fun experience. This looks like a modded version of Kingdom Hearts

  • @justemily4340
    @justemily4340 4 года назад +18

    @Avalanche Reviews: There is an audio loop in your video from 12:46 to around 13:10 in which you talk about the approach of Way Forward to the puzzles in the game. I believe it is the same sentence, but ending with different words.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +10

      Yeah, I must have left the first take in the recording. By the time I noticed it, it was like 5 in the morning, so now I'm going to act like it's some kind of purposeful attempt at humor. HA!

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 4 года назад

      Omg I never noticed until you mentioned that haha

  • @HaohmaruHL
    @HaohmaruHL 4 года назад +3

    I'm glad wayforward found their passion with colorful platformers. I'm surprised THIS alone didn't spiral their whole studio into obscurity

  • @LazAnnya
    @LazAnnya 4 года назад +6

    just got silent hill: shattered memories for the ps2 today, great time for an upload

  • @BBmetalhead04
    @BBmetalhead04 3 года назад +5

    I kind of want to see Wayforward get another shot at SH, but with more creative freedom that plays into there strengths. Maybe a retro-remake of the first game that would play like a 2D Metroid-vania. Call it “Silent Hill: Demastered”.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 года назад +2

      Now that sounds like a killer idea! I'd love to see something like that!

  • @robertsmith7627
    @robertsmith7627 4 года назад +50

    Based on my experience with this game I'm going to guess this isn't going to go well. Woooo! Exactly what I needed to wake up to =)

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +6

      A nice dumpster fire to wake up to

    • @Drax69420
      @Drax69420 4 года назад

      By "experience with the game" do you mean working on the game or just playing it?

    • @robertsmith7627
      @robertsmith7627 4 года назад

      @@Drax69420 playing

    • @Drax69420
      @Drax69420 4 года назад

      @@robertsmith7627 ah. Honestly, kinda wish I could heard from someone at wayforward about what working on the game was like.

  • @FICTiVETRUiSM
    @FICTiVETRUiSM 4 года назад +1

    This is a nice thorough look at this game. I've enjoyed all your Silent Hill videos so far, thank you for covering one of my favorite franchises!

  • @Genasidal
    @Genasidal 4 года назад +1

    Always love watching some late night Avalanche Reviews! Great stuff as always brother!!!

  • @toastydanny9136
    @toastydanny9136 4 года назад +3

    I love Silent Hill and I love RPG dungeon games. It doesn't mean that they combined together lol.
    Great review there Avalanche!

  • @StrawHatGuy_
    @StrawHatGuy_ 4 года назад +1

    I'm obsessed with all things Silent Hill. I'm looking forward to your future videos!

  • @Octoboobs
    @Octoboobs 4 года назад +7

    Book of Memories feels like Rob Zombie version of Silent Hill (no disrespect to RZ, I find his movies really fun but I can see some overlaping themes).

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      Ya know, I think I see exactly what you're talking about.

  • @Exmachinagamma
    @Exmachinagamma 4 года назад +7

    On the one hand, being able to wield Pyramid Head's Great Knife 🔪 effortlessly, whereas both he and James struggled to swing that bad boy is a sight! I took great pains to find and keep it😄
    However, finding the connecting story as to why you had this book and your character's involvement in Silent Hill did seem to be lacking. It has the Diablo-style gameplay that is refreshing. I don't know it's a game with Silent Hill elements your mileage will vary😅

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      Yeah I'm down with an SH diablo clone. I feel like with a more talented team behind it, it could have been awesome.

  • @Fuketsu.
    @Fuketsu. 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for recapping this, not many people gave it attention which sucks because i really love to watch retrospectives of anything related to silent hill😂

  • @callumgilchrist
    @callumgilchrist 4 года назад +1

    Came for SH,stayed for the excellent video capture analysis. Nice work as always Jared 👌🏻

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      Thank you man! Glad to see people appreciate that. I get so interested in those technical details, and sometimes it feels like I'm putting people to sleep with all that stuff.

  • @paynexkiller
    @paynexkiller 4 года назад +1

    Another great review bro. Keep em coming.

  • @fconstraints
    @fconstraints 4 года назад

    Hey man, thanks for the new video. Been looking forward to more Avalanche Reviews.

  • @SabbyNeko
    @SabbyNeko 3 года назад +1

    I know it would get old really quick, but just watching this footage, the melee attacks have some decent feedback. Smacking monsters looks pretty satisfying.

  • @Rorschach1195
    @Rorschach1195 4 года назад

    Another great video and i appreciate you covering these more obscure games I have no interest in playing myself, thanks Jared.

  • @S_B-
    @S_B- 4 года назад +1

    The best thing to come out of this game is Mary McGlynn's rendition of 'Love Psalm'.

  • @devi403
    @devi403 4 года назад +1

    You damn hero, I was looking forward to this!

  • @jakfan09
    @jakfan09 4 года назад

    Literally just started replaying Silent Hill 1 yesterday and this pops up into my recommended.

  • @GameDevMadeEasy
    @GameDevMadeEasy 4 года назад

    I've been waiting for this one!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      Our paths were bound to cross one day. Today is that day.

  • @romelsoyza4160
    @romelsoyza4160 4 года назад +13

    I was expecting another RE movie or the Dead Space review, but i will take anything you put out 😎👍

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +5

      Those words will haunt you one day. I'm sure of it. HA!

    • @WinterSoldierLTE
      @WinterSoldierLTE 4 года назад +4

      I'd love a Dead Space series. Such a shame there were only 4. The PS4 would've benefited so much from that series.

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 4 года назад +2

      @@WinterSoldierLTE rip visceral

    • @WinterSoldierLTE
      @WinterSoldierLTE 4 года назад +2

      @@Genasidal Absolutely. That studio and the people that worked there were done dirty by EA. That shit was low.

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 4 года назад

      @@WinterSoldierLTE if you haven't ever, there is a video detailing the OG concepts for dead space 3. Barely any of them made it in bc EAs looming presence. Dead Space 2 wasn't affected no where near as much in terms of changes but additions that visceral thought unnecessary were added too. Most of these were bland or just hated by the community. EA ruined them HARD

  • @Gwynhyvr
    @Gwynhyvr 4 года назад +1

    this feels like an idea that could have worked with less restrictions from the higher ups. there's parts of a really good game in here, by look of it.

  • @mcrarburger
    @mcrarburger 4 года назад

    You said the "distillation" line twice (12:45 and 12:59)
    Regardless, great video as always!! I always had a vita and was interested in getting this game. This video makes me glad I passed on it

  • @pancakes7294
    @pancakes7294 Месяц назад

    to be fair, at 3:47 Silent Hill has used the postal service to give Jams Mary's letter

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  Месяц назад

      I thought it was confirmed that the letter never actually existed.

  • @marbles8641
    @marbles8641 2 года назад

    The mailman was supposed to be an entity of Silent Hill.
    He was supposed to be featured in all games and media going forward but the series all but died.

  • @venomsnakessidepiece
    @venomsnakessidepiece 2 года назад +1

    I love this game because it has so much SH lore in it

  • @caaltaes732
    @caaltaes732 4 года назад +1

    Jared now you're contractually obligated to review the Silent Hill Comics 🤣

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад +1

      Caal Taes oh boy he would be in for a ride, there’s good one.... and there’s all the other one...

  • @toratio8547
    @toratio8547 3 года назад

    Is anyone else imagining Howard running around Silent Hill with a fake moustache pretending to run all the shops and deliver the mail and serve at the cafe?

  • @christopherthomas2808
    @christopherthomas2808 4 года назад

    Never knew about this game great video. Also this kinda reminds me of hunter the reckoning

  • @Shinigami41395
    @Shinigami41395 2 года назад

    I thought I knew about all of the Silent Hill games. After watching this video, I now completely understand why I had never heard of this game.

  • @AndyKazama2
    @AndyKazama2 4 года назад +4

    In the words of Godfather part II: "Look how they massacred by boy"
    Edit: @Avalanche Reviews, has the Drakengard/Nier franchise been something you have thought of covering? I enjoy your take on things and would love to hear what you think of these games. Many sharks get jumped, but trust me, it works.

    • @MetaMetro3
      @MetaMetro3 4 года назад +1

      That line’s from the first Godfather, not Part 2

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 4 года назад +1

      Still hoping the Drakengard Trilogy gets remastered and rereleased on current consoles and pc like Nier is.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +2

      So I hear a lot about the series, but to be honest, I've never touched it myself. I have a few of the games, but never really played them. If I end up liking Nier, I might go back and cover the whole series.

    • @Tetsuito
      @Tetsuito 4 года назад

      @@AvalancheReviews Thank you!

    • @AndyKazama2
      @AndyKazama2 4 года назад

      @@AvalancheReviews that's where I would start. Drakengard or Drakengard 3 might be a bit weird for first timers, Nier is a good middle ground to start.

  • @chickenmcjigglets2904
    @chickenmcjigglets2904 4 года назад +3

    Avalanche posts a video, I watch, I like, it’s a simple process.
    Thanks man, great vid!

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      It's my responsibility to keep that simple process going. HA!

  • @NikoLetsGoBowling1
    @NikoLetsGoBowling1 4 года назад

    Love your retrospectives. Watched all of your resident evil and dino crisis ones and currently working my way through silent hill. That being said, dead space retrospective?

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      I'll just say this, keep an eye out at the end of the next few videos. You might like what you see.

  • @RealMctoran
    @RealMctoran 4 года назад +12

    Were you still planning to do a House of The Dead retrospective?

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +4

      I might cover one or two of those games, but I don't think I'll cover the entire series.

    • @RealMctoran
      @RealMctoran 4 года назад +2

      @@AvalancheReviews cool

    • @geceron
      @geceron 4 года назад

      @@AvalancheReviews But Overkill is a good game, no excelent, but very fun.

  • @brandongrey9240
    @brandongrey9240 4 года назад

    Just in time when I felt like I’ve watched all the good sh videos

  • @Andriej69
    @Andriej69 4 года назад

    It really takes serious dedication to even touch this shit with your actual hands, I am truly impressed by the sheer amount of effort. So I'm guessing one of the titles left will be Silent Hills/P.T, but I'm not sure about the other. You can't possibly be talking about PACHINKO MACHINE, can you?!

  • @ThatOldSchoolMagic
    @ThatOldSchoolMagic 3 года назад +1

    The top view perspective reminds me of Zombies ate my neighbors.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 года назад

      Oh for sure! Fuck! Imagine a psp remake of that game.

  • @MultiKamil97
    @MultiKamil97 2 года назад

    Whoever thought this game would make a nice addition to the Silent Hill franchise must be insane. This game looks like it could be anything else but SH.

  • @bloodraptor
    @bloodraptor 4 года назад

    Random gameplay concept.
    A break system which works like this:
    Usable: is the typical state the weapons are found.
    Broken: this is the fun part, for most weapons it means they lose some power, but in other cases they actually become stronger (example, a glass bottle), of course this state has less durability than the "usable" state.
    Useless: The weapon may disappear from your inventory, or remain and can be repaired, trying to use them do next to nothing.

  • @Safersephiroth777
    @Safersephiroth777 4 года назад +7

    True Silent Hill game here. I mean a person running around with an ice sword+2 and killing enemies. Just like all other SH games!

  • @12ealDealOfficial
    @12ealDealOfficial 4 года назад +2

    On this day 8/5/2020, Jared begot his only $199.99 + shipping on eBay for a Vita TV to save us from... this.
    Can't believe you put yourself through Book of Memories. Bless you, sir.
    Is one of the remaining games the Play Novel? I'd love to see your thoughts on the extra campaigns. Then there's the "DLC" for the game that had the three extra modes that vanished in Japan. It'd be a crazy ride, but nothing short of a miracle could locate that Play Novel DLC.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      I looked around and the only translations for the play novel exist via a web browser and some kind of flash interface. I was going to cover it, but I really want to play it on real hardware. I can read Hiragana and a little Katakana, but play novel uses a lot of Kanji, so I wouldn't be able to actually play through it in Japanese sadly. I lucked out on the vita though. Only had to pay 130$.

  • @Trespasser2003
    @Trespasser2003 3 года назад

    I’m half surprised they didn’t try to somehow shoehorn Howard into the SH HD Collection. He brought James the letter!

  • @theretrogamers7690
    @theretrogamers7690 4 года назад

    This looks like one of those games where someone has to force themselves to like it. However, the idea of a random dungeon in the Silent Hill universe does make sense.

  • @wayneralph945
    @wayneralph945 4 года назад +1

    silent hill always resonated with me because I have traditionally been my own worst enemy.

  • @contrabandresearch8409
    @contrabandresearch8409 2 года назад

    One day someone will make a great Silent Hill inspired dungeon crawler. It's too good of a concept to let fail

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 4 года назад +1

    This game lost me when the titular Book of Memories wasn't a metaphor, but a literal book filled with a list of your memories... I just... that really made me roll my eyes xD
    I think "horror-themed rouge like" is a cool idea, but tacking the Silent Hill name onto it was just... tasteless corporate marketing.
    1,000 points for name dropping Shiren the Wanderer in this review though. Now THAT is a must-own for Vita. ;D
    (it's coming to Switch this year, too)

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      I kind of like the psp Shiren game more than the vita one. Both are awesome though. To be honest though, I dig the idea of an SH dungeon crawler. It doesn't feel like a cash grab to me because it's a spin off and...... well, why not? Based on what we've seen of the newer games in the series though, I can understand where you're coming from.

    • @HybridAngelZero
      @HybridAngelZero 4 года назад

      @@AvalancheReviews Silent Hill definitely does have an awesome rogue's gallery of demonic beasts, that's for sure.
      I will say, after thinking about it more, I think it would have been kind of cool to see what a dungeon crawler from the traditional Silent Hill camera perspective could have been, as you mentioned in the video

  • @zanychelly
    @zanychelly 4 года назад +5

    WayForward makes awesome 2D games, recently have made awesome gems.
    Silent Hill was their lowest point, they are much better than that.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +2

      I've never played the Shantae games, but they do look like they're much better than this.

    • @zanychelly
      @zanychelly 4 года назад +2

      Avalanche Reviews Give it try, maybe get one in a sale.
      I would recommend these four games : Double Dragon Neon, River City Girls, Contra 4 and Shantae and the Seven Sirens.

  • @TKing677
    @TKing677 4 года назад

    Honestly I can see a Co-op Silent Hill working. Since most of what happens in the SH games is the character's PTSD mental torture there's a lot of potential that can play off of that. For example when you create a character you can pick one of X amount of vague backstories and depending on what you pick creates different outcomes in your environment/play through. So if you picked a backstory based on being stabbed in the back by those close to you, your teammates on occasion (on your screen) will turn into some messed up enemy that tries to attack you and when you both speak on mic in game chat it's replaced with static. Once the enemy is killed you'd snap out of it and see that your partner wasn't yet another back stabber that your character was deathly afraid of. You could also have endings revolving around the amount of players you have and what their backstories are as well as the choices you all made throughout. And that amount of endings isn't even that unrealistic since SH games are known for their abundance of endings.
    I'm just spitballing here but if done well I think a co-op SH can work while still having the constant panic attack vibe and even having the co-op itself play into that anxiety.
    But for the love of Christ if there's a create character don't have ridiculous options like the one shown in video? SH was always about the average Joe/Jane with a garbage past so keep the options semi-generic with realistic hair colors/styles.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад

      *look down at her gothic Lolita clothes, and her black/purple hair * heh I resent that!!
      On the other hand that reminds me of what they tried to do in Dead Space 3

    • @TKing677
      @TKing677 4 года назад

      @@oliviawilliams6204 I'm not saying that nobody in reality wears anything that's considered "Out there" I'm just thinking about how SH protagonist are in every title and trying to keep it close to that.
      And yeah I heard about that, too. It's too bad that E.A single handedly fucked Dead Space 3 as a whole when the devs actually had a clever plan for the co-op. Must have been heartbreaking for the devs.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад

      @@TKing677 I was teasing you

    • @TKing677
      @TKing677 4 года назад +1

      @@oliviawilliams6204 Don't do that to me, you're too cruel. You know how hard it is for me to pick out teasery amongst text.

  • @Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6
    @Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6 4 года назад

    agreed, the only thing good that came from this was the short bonus animated comic where every main SH character is in it or is referenced

  • @hankhill1964
    @hankhill1964 4 года назад

    This game is salvageable. If they went full tilt on the idea of altering your past and flesh out some of the drama but stick with just one plot thread like someone getting fired for say an adiction getting in the way we could have had something good or at least half decent. And then when you finish one "past" for your character you could unlock another. Granted it would be hard to intigrate multiplayer but you could still make it a dungon crawler that changes each time you play it.
    As for the weapons one thing that could be done is add legendary weapons that could be significant to the character's past like say a hunting rifle they used when their dad took them on a family camping trip or a wooden sword they used to play with when they where a kid and have these stand out by being immune to breaking and have them scale with the character's or monster's level.

  • @MalganisLefay
    @MalganisLefay 2 года назад

    such tragedy, as the Concept to combine Silent hill with butterfly effect sounds pretty interesting on paper

  • @WhitePhoenix22
    @WhitePhoenix22 4 года назад

    SH3 being my fav, I actually didn’t know this existed but would love to play this.. not for the story but the different feel of SH. By the looks of it the big weapons with sfx kills the vibe. Could be darker and only light is your flashlight to make it scarier, also less enemies and cutscene when encountering a new one, scarce ammo that makes fights easy from afar and melee weapons being dreadful and a feel of danger when near enemies?

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 4 года назад

    "At the start of BM *chuckle*"
    I fucking lost it lol

  • @mgrah3723
    @mgrah3723 4 года назад

    Oh yay! I was wondering if you were gonna bring this game up!

  • @FredHerbert999
    @FredHerbert999 4 года назад

    Not Tomm Hulett's fault. Tomm prevented a super saiyen like battle between the cults God and a new God in SH in SH: Homecoming. Yeah, thats what he was working with.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      I agree. He prevented a few disasters in the games he didn't work on.

  • @aliciafraser1835
    @aliciafraser1835 4 года назад

    So I might have said this already on another SH video, but I have to take that make and say it here. I let out the most guttural "OH NO" in the world upon seeing this title!

  • @GamingZoom
    @GamingZoom 4 года назад +2

    I really hope that next gen brings us a new silent hill I have seen some leaks but of course we don’t know for sure

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +4

      I don't know........ I would be ok with the franchise being dead. Stories all have to end, and if you ask me, this one ended with SH3. So I'm ok with no more SH games coming out. Maybe devs can that drive and energy, and put it towards a new horror IP.

    • @TheRealPsychoetry
      @TheRealPsychoetry 4 дня назад

      ​@@AvalancheReviews ope

  • @fwobebe5164
    @fwobebe5164 2 года назад

    My friend worked on this game...to this day he's never wanted to talk about it, and I don't blame him. xD

  • @villager9874
    @villager9874 4 года назад

    I didn't even know this was even in anay of the silent hill games

  • @becca0668
    @becca0668 3 года назад +1

    Oh how could this game be expensive, I've my copy for years since it came out and thought it was total junk.

  • @mdjd4645
    @mdjd4645 3 года назад

    Not remotely a survival horror and a Silent Hill game, but I'd lie if I said I didn't have fun with this game. Sweet easter eggs with Diablo clone gameplay, some cool bosses.
    A 7/10 game, imo.

  • @newironside
    @newironside 4 года назад +1

    Wait what is this
    I thought this footage was some sort of joke. I'm glad I've never heard of this

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      If it is a joke, it's a joke at out expense. HA!

  • @DaybreakerRein
    @DaybreakerRein 3 года назад

    Finally got around to catching up on your videos, so glad that you were able to get Sharpscale working! You'll have to hit me up sometime and tell me what you did cuz it always crashed for me xD It makes me wonder how well Sharpscale would do playing PSP titles through the PSTV.
    I hate how the physical Vita carts are still expensive on the 2nd hand market, and it'll probably get worse as time goes on. So for anyone out there wanting to experience games on the Vita, I definitely recommend getting the homebrew up and running. Super easy to do and a ton of great games have been made super accessible because of it, and the HB community is pretty active. There is a ton of cool stuff outside the PS Vita and PSP games available so definitely worth it!

  • @Raven-fr3ki
    @Raven-fr3ki 4 года назад

    @Avalanche reviews, you covered both survivor games, are you planning on covering outbreak? Files one and two, it's like a healthy blend of classic fixed angles and modern style play with a real time inventory that doesn't pause the game, and severely limited space no more than 4 items at a time * barring you play as yoko who has double space, the games are amazing I picked them out of a bargain bin in like 2008 and I don't think enough folks have seen it yet

  • @mcain2911
    @mcain2911 4 года назад +7

    “At the start of BM” You know what you did. You know...😀

  • @petermertens8839
    @petermertens8839 4 года назад

    Much Love from Germany!!

  • @stonerdemon
    @stonerdemon 4 года назад

    So glad I got this game for $22 complete in perfect condition. Regardless of the game's quality, any old game belonging to a classic franchise is sure to go up in price these days.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +2

      Yeah look at how much bad NES games cost nowadays.

  • @SatansLeadGuitarist
    @SatansLeadGuitarist 4 года назад +1

    Can i just say how much of a kick i get out of the fact that you sometimes mess up what you're saying and giggle about it just to leave it in the video. those are always my favorite little moments in these videos.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      No joke, there were like 8 more of those in the original recording. HA!

  • @Beastofdestruct
    @Beastofdestruct 2 года назад

    Bruh, they could've just made a phasmophobia type game with Silent Hill type designed monsters that terrorize players in a mansion/hospital/whatever that could also change to the underworld.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  2 года назад

      They could have done a lot of stuff, but I think Konami ruined this one before the developers could.

  • @youseftaha8539
    @youseftaha8539 4 года назад

    Omg how many silent hill games are out there!

  • @LeAlejx
    @LeAlejx Год назад

    Honestly who looks at Silent Hill and thinks...
    You know what???
    ARPG, that's the future of this beloved horror franchise

  • @NaminaQueenofDemons
    @NaminaQueenofDemons 3 года назад

    When this game first came out I remember thinking it didn't look all too polished for a Vita game and looking back it looks like a game for your phone. I never ended up getting it because though I am a huge fan of dungeon crawlers, especially old school ones, this one rubbed me wrong with the big Silent Hill in its title.

  • @Longthony
    @Longthony 4 года назад +1

    "Two more left" what else is there? I thought this was the last SH thing to come out to date.

  • @AidanDrotzur-uz5sz
    @AidanDrotzur-uz5sz 4 месяца назад

    Now for any silent hill fans looking for a good experience on the vita, the PSP games are available but I can't on good faith recommend them, there's also the first game available, and if the novelty of playing on the go isn't enough to justify a replay there a game called back in 1995, heavily inspired by the ps1 resident evil and especially silent hill, where a lot of the horror lies on that old polygonal style that the ps1 is known for, the game is even in 4:3 with an option for scanlines available, and finally there's Yomawari: Night Alone a phenomenal indie horror about exploring a dark foggy possibly haunted town in the middle of the night, all of these i can highly recommend over book of memories, as a huge vita and horror fan myself
    All that being said, book of memories is certainly not a horror game, and probably not what you would expect out of a silent hill game either, but if you enjoy dungeon crawlers you might actually like it, lots of people do, and the demo is free, so give it a try if you think you're interested

  • @vladandnobody
    @vladandnobody 4 года назад

    Welcome back 🐱

  • @letsgobombo
    @letsgobombo 4 года назад

    Oh man, I forgot this game existed! I was so excited for a Vita SH game... then I played the demo...

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      Yep. I was really stoked to finally play the demo when I got my vita...................we know how that went though.

    • @RedBonkleMan8534
      @RedBonkleMan8534 3 года назад

      Same bro...heckin same

  • @robertfullchim923
    @robertfullchim923 4 года назад

    Your chuckle at saying BM is great.

  • @Antnj81
    @Antnj81 3 года назад +1

    I know that you said that were supposed to judge it as a spin-off, but it was Konami that marketed it as part of the established canonical lore. The game even references that itself. As a hardcore old school Silent Hill fan boy, I would have had no problem accepting this game if it were marketed clearly as a spinoff. It would have been the same thing as the arcade shooter, in my opinion. It's the fact that the game tries to retcon the rest of the series, that I have a problem with

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  3 года назад +2

      Yeah there are story elements that ties it into the series, but you could say the same about the arcade shooter. It was based off an actual story referenced in the second game. I think it was intended to be canon, but the change in gameplay, just puts it in the spin off camp for me. You're definitely not wrong, but I just choose to see it for what it obviously is, despite what the devs wanted it to be.

    • @Antnj81
      @Antnj81 3 года назад +1

      @@AvalancheReviews I'm guessing you didn't beat the game. So towards the latter half of the game, you begin using the book more and more and basically the game says that it was the book of memories that caused James sunderland's dead wife to appear in Silent Hill, that drew Harry Mason to Silent Hill, and basically is the reason for every other thing that happened. The original designers never make mention of that, so therefore it would technically be a retcon. Again, that's my only issue with it really. The arcade shooter was cheesy and fun - I mean yeah it's totally a departure gameplay style-wise from the originals, but it had the decency to stay in its own lane and not attempt to rewrite what we know about our favorite games in the series, ya know? 🤔

  • @reizueberflutung
    @reizueberflutung 4 года назад

    Ok, but if this was a modern day mobile game not attached to the Silent Hill brand, people would love it.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад

      I mean, it has serious flaws, outside of being an SH game. The exp guage not having a numerical read out, crazy spikes in difficulty. Tedious gameplay and a cray amount of bugs. It's not a good dungeon crawler to be honest. And that' coming from someone who likes the genre.

  • @zachdavis6272
    @zachdavis6272 3 года назад

    I wonder how somebody came up and thought that the idea of a silent hill hack and slash dungeon crawler was a good idea

  • @AydarBMSTU
    @AydarBMSTU 4 года назад

    Ah yes, the game from the misunderstood SH man Tomm Hulett himself. I think it's a tough pill to swallow even for his defenders

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +1

      It's also proof that maybe Tom just isn't a good game designer, and maybe shouldn't have been trusted with the series to begin with.

  • @cstrife420
    @cstrife420 4 года назад +1

    I had a gamestop employee talk me out of grabbing this game one day. He then told me about gravity rush and im sure i wont have to tell anyone which one was better

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  4 года назад +2

      He deserves a raise

    • @user-of3ze3gp8w
      @user-of3ze3gp8w 4 года назад +3

      Funny how Gravity Rush was a passion project of the SH1 director.

    • @cstrife420
      @cstrife420 4 года назад +1

      @@user-of3ze3gp8w i actually didnt know that. Thats really cool.

  • @xhailnhail
    @xhailnhail 4 года назад

    love watching your reviews, keep up the great work :-)

  • @tylertheguy3160
    @tylertheguy3160 Год назад +2

    Tom Hulett gets WAY too much hate and vitriol for his involvement in the series. Yes he was behind some of it's worst moments and he shouldn't be immune to criticism over that fact, but he wasn't the only one who did all this and some people hate the dude like he he killed their dog or some shit. Like, calm down people, he's just some normal dude.

  • @orca1361
    @orca1361 Месяц назад

    I keep coming back to watch vid cause I want to play it, but no vita. But I feel it was like obscure in a way, maybe high school in silent hill or close to the apartment in the room take place would be a alright concept. Silent hill in a teenager or young adult perspective in a high school or even community college.

  • @orca1361
    @orca1361 3 года назад

    Watching this now and thinking what if Acid Wizard Studio "Darkwood" had the right to Silent Hill at the time this game was being made. One can dream.

  • @GabryyLG
    @GabryyLG Год назад

    Most people dont own a Vita so its easier to treat this game as a joke. While it isn't anything special, I definitely had my fun and had a little addiction to it when I first got it. For some reason, I like the idea they were going for. Reminds me of childhood fantasies of fighting Silent Hill creatures while adventuring with a schoolmate of mine