WHY BOXING IS BETTER THAN MARTIAL ARTS! (BJJ/JUDO ECT)
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2023
-  Full disclosure, I have practiced in many different styles of martial arts, and this is just my personal first-hand experience but many people proclaim martial arts to be superior in a self-defense situations especially for beginners. I tend to disagree. Here’s my take. 
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Boxing is overrated for street fights on its own. Better to pair with Judo and become a more well rounded fighter.
Footwork in boxing is greatly underrated when it comes to self defense. Being light on your feet and having the option to engage or disengage is very important. In grappling sports, you are forced to commit and that's when things can go very wrong.
Agreed
💯🥊 how long of training in boxing to win in a street fight?
@@truthhurts6327 30 minutes should be plenty
those who know both >>>>
As a dude that grew up fighting on the streets and doing time I tell dudes all the time the last place you wanna be is on the ground in a REAL fight. A competition is a real fight but it’s controlled with rules so it makes sense to take someone down. On the street you wanna be on your feet and be able to get away if you need to run not be on the ground waiting to be stomped by other dudes. Seen it too many times. Learn to box it will keep you alive and you’ll win more than 9 out of 10 fights in the streets
I have trained BJJ for around 5 years and still do. I took Muay Thai for about a year and 1/2 to get a decent striking base. Most BJJ guys underestimate and undervalue how effective striking is. Grappling is great to know but being able to piece somebody up is equally if not more important.
Well said, gotta balance the yin & yang!!
BJJ is meant to be paired with striking but the strikes were taken out for tournaments. Judo also used to do more ground work but has taken a lot out for tournaments. When it was an actual form of combat for war, you'd use throws and locks to expose people to strikes.
It’s always nice to be able to dictate where the fights going to take place. I’ve always grappled. Just started boxing and I’m obsessed with it now. I’m adding in some Muay Thai soon. I’m dressing it. Took a nasty shin to my thigh and that will change the way you look at life. lol.
@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners Having your leg shut down after a clean round kick to the upper thigh is an eye-opening experience to be sure lol
Man I am martial arts instructor.
Iv been training in one way or another for close to 20 years.
I honestly tell people the same thing.
I think boxing and wrestling are the best things people can do if they want to actually be able to handle themselves in a fight simply because of the way they train and the mindsets of the competitions.
I incorporate both in our fighting system quite a bit simply because of how effective they are in the street.
And most of the street fights I've been in it's been a pretty awful idea to be on the ground for to long lol
That's what Andrew Tate said
Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different
@@markdaniels4178 "Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different" - That's right, keep everything easy. :) Two sciences, study and practice them both to the fullest! A knock out artist, a body slam artist, and a choke out artist!
Boxing and wrestling is good but I reckon boxing and judo better
@@tylerdurden4289 i think so too. i personally am a muay thai striker but i also use some karate grappling techniques in a fight like the upward block into hammer fist, or doing a step with my right leg and doing a vertical straight punch with my left then move back to muay thai punches if someone uses a long guard or frames my punches. i also like to use a snappy karate front kick to their legs when they try to be evasive and counter with punches but i add the hip thrust to it so its a hybrid between the muay thai teep and karate front kick.
Boxing is hard and pain is guaranteed! So is life... I keep coming back to the gym, even when I keep feeling awkward and defenseless against any mediocre skilled boxer... But I keep coming back.
Me the same thing :)
Me too
I used to be a boxer and let me tell you it pushes you to the limits unlike anything you've ever seen the desire the pain the hunger the struggle breaking you down building you back up pushing your body to the distance doing things that you never thought was possible before and when it's all said and done you feel so happy because you did something that you thought was impossible that's why I love boxing to this day and still do it❤❤
I have been training karate for nearly 25 years. And now I do boxing 1 to 2 times a week besides karate.
Boxing for me is another game that really gives you the taste of reality and you don't get that in lots of martial arts.
It's great for footwork, conditioning and reflexes.
I agree with everything said. I'm from Kazakhstan and have been doing boxing since school. Later I transitioned into judo and bjj. In real life scenario boxing helped me in self-defence on multiple occasions. In my experience all the fights started in places where I less likely expected it, i.e at home, in a bar, pub, restaurant, shopping mall, on the way to home or work etc. To avoid a series of punches and to stay conscious even if some good punches landed on my head or body is a key ability that boxing gave me. Once the back of my head hit the edge of the toilet unit, but still I was able to get up though I felt the wave of shock went through all my body (a similar experience when you've been knocked out).
Yes, because if you're attacked especially if you are taken by surprise you might have to weather the storm and take a couple punches.
Another good thing about training in boxing is you learn to roll with punches or cover up so you aren't taking the full force of the hits. The harder you are hit the more difficult it is to defend yourself. Take the least amount of damage and the sooner you can recover and fight back.
Man coach V I’m so glad you made a video on this topic. I always tell people, if two 225 guys on steroids roll in submission grappling, It’s still not necessarily a FIGHT. With boxing I don’t care if it’s two middle aged women who are 115 pounds fight with 16 oz gloves, headgear and x 2:00 rounds, that’s still a FIGHT where one of them can DIE!
I like your analogy. I totally agree when you’re throwing blows that really is with the line is crossed between safe and dangerous. Nothing against grappling, but that is the art of postponing a fight unless you’re factoring in submissions as you know, you get points deducted for too much holding because it’s not considered advancing your position!
Yeah but the 225lb steroid-guys can potentially get their limbs snapped or their joints shredded within seconds.
Also, are we assuming that there is a ref cause if you hold onto a blood choke for too long the other person will literally die.
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Yes you are right death can occur in any sport. However, within the rules of submission grappling holding things past the tap is illegal. So applying a choke past the tap can happen yes, but it’s not within the rules.
In the case of Boxing, even at the most novice level regardless of gender, age and size, the rules ENCOURAGE you to leave your opponent unconscious. Both sports are similar in that they require the signing of waivers, it’s just that in boxing the inherent risk is more upfront and blatant. (In my opinion)
@@stefankeeney8462You’re right, I misinterpreted your original post when I first read it yesterday 🤦🏻♂️.
Injuring someone in a grappling competition would have to be either by accident or a refusal to tap (or some asshole not letting go lol).
Where as in boxing, even sparring sessions can cause brain trauma.
Boxing with wrestling and judo are a safe bet in a self defence situation. Also incorporating Japanese ju-jitsu would help. I want see a combination of Boxing and Karate.
I don't know about better? I do believe if you combine boxing and judo. You really got something now.
Or Muay Thai/kickboxing and BJJ/Jujutsu. Winning combination.
@@punisher7772I don't think Muay Thai/ Kickboxing is anywhere near boxing.
@@francismurage895 LOL
Yeah, keep thinking that until you are kicked in the leg and knocked out by a spinning elbow.
@punisher7772 MT is the goat. They're shins are like clubs
@@francismurage895 you do know a guy got his skull fractured by a flying knee in the UFC right ?
As a LEO and mixed martial artist I agree with most of your opinion,but in law enforcement grappling is more effective because it’s more efficient and appears less brutal. If I knockout or get into a fist fight with every resisting suspect I will be fired and probably arrested, but if I get the take down and ground control usually no one gets hurt and I can keep my job.
Yeah in law enforcement optics and how your write your reports are more important than anything.
The fact that you're a cop and you're bringing your zodiac sign into this is terrifying. You sound like a mental case 🤪👮🏼♂️😂
@@kumarjr1696he puts his zodiac sign of the perps in his police reports too 😂
What's the best grappling art for self defense?
@@MrWinning43 Judo or wrestling
Having worked in corrections and private security. I used more of what I learned from Muay Thai/boxing then I did jiu jitsu, to be fair I enjoyed boxing more and the footwork and evading really helped me. In a jail environment you don’t want to be on the ground, that is a terrifying thing.
Exactly all these Jiu-Jitsu dogs that never been punched in the face think that crap is going to work in the street or in jail they are sadly mistaken
Judoka will throw a boxer before he can punch him
amazing advice thanks coach i want to ask whats your opinion on escrima? its a weapons based martial art which has focuse on stick and knife fighting but there is also an unarmed component as well called panantukan which is a filipino version of boxing my question is does it stand a chance against a pure boxer? ive seen techniques of filipino boxing having to deal with destroying the attackers arms by punching the forearms which to me it seems unrealistic cause due to the adrenaline the attacker wont feel any pain
Great video! What do you think, is boxing and bjj best combo for self defense && street fight?
Great video! I've always thought of boxing as a martial art. For that matter, wresting too. But I know what you mean. I agree with you that boxing provides you with a great base. After a one-hour boxing workout, most people can hardly hold their arms up. I think if you do boxing and some wrestling, you will be set in dealing with most street fight scenarios.
Hey bro. Great content. I had a question. How much does heavy bag work carry over into sparring and self defense? I talk to some guys that train and they say it's completely useless. I do have experience sparring but gained a lot of injuries overtime and had to take 2 years off of training.
Not OP but self defence is maximised when your techniques become second nature. Hitting bags isn't as good as you don't get punished for mistakes but you do get to practice your techniques on a very solid target! Sparring against someone is half of it, the technique is the other half.
I do both KYOKISHIN, karate and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but I’ve also integrated parts of boxing into my training, and I must say whatever it comes to defensive maneuvers. I had never seen any sort of head movement quite like boxings, and it’s very effective.
i have one question i wanna get into boxing but i never boxed before i wanted to know as soon as you get into the gym and start going theres alot of training before you actually box right?
Yes
Tristar gym has a bjj/muay thai split system. It is ran by Firas Zahabi. What do you think about that?
This video found its way to me- been in a similar dilemma between choosing boxing and mma. ive already had two fairly recent boxing lessons , and i always felt like it would be the most logical to start with boxing. i think all are good though!
Well put my friend, i’ve been thinking kind of the same thing, it sounds like you explanained what i was trying to figure out on my own. Thanks a lot for the video !!!
AMAZING BREAKDOWN!!
Much appreciated brother, great channel you got 🥊📈💪🏼
Just notice you didn’t touch up alot about the subject “JUDO” In judo there’s also alot of movement..fight for grips, drag opponent, offbalancing opponent, use their attack against them.. Judo moves also are mostly defences..(managing distance) to throw, sweep, takedowns..and many times the judoka could also be left standing instead..which gives him/her time to add more damage to the opponent or simply look to exit the scene. With that said there’s also alot of footwork in JUDO as well..
Judo is amazing man for the streets ❤
I agree. It wouldn’t hurt to learn both Boxing and Judo.
Judo is the most realistic martial arts for how most street fights actually start. It works in clinch range and uses take downs that are throws as opposed to single or double legs that lead to ground fighting. Someone who can throw and box is gonna be a strong fighter in the street.
@@TheMatrixofMeaning Boxing - combined with Judo and your going to be a Terminator
I don't like Judo mostly for the fact that I have done it to black belt level, and it is difficult to execute techniques with an opponent who is resisting. But it is EXTREMELY difficult to execute techniques on someone running away.
If your opponent isn't willing staying in the clinch with you it is hard to get your hips under their center of gravity or to apply sweeps. I like wrestling because you can force your will by shooting, whereas in judo a lot of its success is timing based. I have also experienced firsthand that especially when there's no gi, you can have your back taken on many throws
I totally agree with this. I've seen footage of boxers very easily and effectively take control of a situation taking out multiple opponents. Boxing and it's footwork just works, it's that simple. There's nothing fancy about it.
The footwork, head movement, and overall body mechanics of boxing are so fundamental not just to a fist fight, but translate incomparably better than any other martial art's skillset.
The future addition of any other means of striking (kicks, knees, open hand, etc.) are included very easily due to boxing's movement mechanics alone.
The addition of BJJ or Judo basics adds such a strong layer of overall competency in a fight.
Amazing perspective coach, I've never heard anyone articulate this topic quite so. You are a real blessing to listen too, keep up the momentum!
Honestly getting all touchy with someone is the most effective way to catch a fade, great video man, I liked.
Agreed and thanks bro feel free to leave video topics in the comment section or my DM 🥊📈💪🏼
I’ve been a grappler all my life. Things are changing. Men don’t fight one on one anymore, buddies jump in and jump on your head. Everyone’s got knives or worse. I decided, no more rolling around on the ground in parking lots. Never had much respect or interest in boxing. “Can’t punch off you back” and all that. Had no clue how technical and beautiful it is. It really is the sweet science. At 53 and after a life time grappling. I’m training boxing multiple times a day. All my weight training it for boxing now too. Lots of running and rope. My body’s changing into something it’s never been. My cardio is leaps and bounds above where it was. I don’t look so stocky anymore. For the fire time, I have complete confidence in my punching power in either hand any with any punch. And the leg work constantly blows my mind. Boxings not just punching people. That’s kind of the least interesting part of it. I’m glad, I wised up. I still love to grapple, but on a mat with training partners. Not in the street. There’s always something new and to improve. I’ll never be great, but I’ll always be better than I was yesterday. Love the video. 🫡
How many times were you rolling round in car parks? If it's more than once, you probably need to work on your impulse control, especially if that's happening at age 53
I think you’re spot on. Great realistic perspective.
Glad you enjoyed it
what up coach, i’m wanting to start boxing and looking into doing it competitively. Is 19 too late to start? I know all the top fighters have been fighting since kids.
It all depends on what your goals are, but now is the best time ever if you were to start late with plans on making a career out of the sport. DM on IG I’ll send you some info. @Coach.V_
Anthony Joshua UK, started at 18
Deontay Wilder USA, started at 20
Just 2 bigger names taht started a bit later in life, and I'm sure there are quite a few more , so it is possible, but these guys are the exception to the rule, but also show that if you have dedication and determination, then things are possible.
@@legion162 appreciate the reply brother, much love.
Go for it I’m bout to turn 20 in a month and a half and ima do it competitively, my sister used to box and sparred with shakur Stevenson at age 24 it’s never too late
It's never to layer there's boxers that started at 28 and in their 30's. Focus,Discipline,and Dedication. Time is not real push forward.
Hey coach v I’m 15 5,10 and 220 I want to start boxing but I don’t know where I stand in that I know I have to lose weight and get in shape but what are some exercises that I can do
What's happening champ message me on IG and I will send you something helpful @Coach.V_
@@coachv3436 got u
@@coachv3436 just did it
Boxing is great for the street knocking people out and you are also used of getting hit to the head.
But you forget that you can break your hands to because no hand wraps and big gloves to protect them .
But Boxing is above BJJ because fighting on the ground can be dangerous, when there are more opponent.
I think Judo is equally to boxing because every fight can get close so with Judo you can trow your opponents with a brutal force to the ground !
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Ull only break ur hands when you’re punching something like the head because ur fist are designed to punch people ion the face and if in Texas get brass knuckles
Coach V should a beginner be sparring in their 5th day?
You made some very valid points and I agree with everything you said.
great video coach. I totally agree.
This guy is brilliant. I will listen to him all day.
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How’s it going brother I put the link in the description but you can also DM me on IG and I will send it with a special offer!
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Loved the opening statement "... with the exception of kickboxing, particularly Muay Thai"
I've never trained boxing, but can totally see how it would prepare you for being punched/attacked for real.
I think, rightly or wrongly, not sure, but most martial arts seem to be soft sparing/technique building, so when you do get punched for real, it's a shock to the system and can short circuit your brain while you process wtf just happened, when you feel the pain on your face, and blood running from your nose.
Finally, just agreeing with what you are saying.
Ha ha thank you brother you get where I’m coming from I have to make the exception for that particular style but yes most people are not prepared for the brutality of being punched in the face rapidly in multiple times in a short window of time!
Agreed. Even in contact sparring, you might get a sparring partner who gets excited and lets a few punches rip harder than they mean to, and nothing helps condition you to getting punched in the face or the body than taking the occasional bomb. Also there's no better reminder to keep your hands up than when you catch a right hook because your left hand's slipping.
@@MarshallIgnas yeah...this happened to me recently haha
@@stringsnare same here.
I completely agree. I've trained in many martial arts over 20 years, but Boxing takes the cake for street defense and conditioning.
I do muay thai and BJJ and i 100% agree you should do some form of striking and grappling preferably
How is your thai clinch and you takedowns?
just wanna say all your videos have excellent advice. dont stop posting. maybe do some videos on defensive basics, stance work...fundamentals that many people miss. i mean theres already videos on that and i like your more 'inner'/psychology type of vids. but yea...
btw, could one argue boxing is in some situation, more effective than kickboxing or muay thai in the street? because in the street ppl usually wearin jeans or slim pants, which makes it significantly more difficult to kick...just a thought!
I totally agree boxing is way more fast-paced than kickboxing
I have nothing but respect for boxers. It's amazing, plain and simple. I chose Muay Thai primarily because I wanted access to more weapons lol As a Muay Mat, I prioritize punches over kicks, knees, and elbows, but it's nice to know I have those options, and I still train them. That said, boxing footwork and head movement is second to none.
I have a question.
Do you have to be competitive to be good at boxing? Or to reap the benefits of self defence and conditioning?
I tell people all the time it’s the best work out in the world and of course you will learn how to defend yourself, taking it to the competitive level is a much higher commitment. Learn the basics do the work out and take it from there!
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You don’t have to compete to be nice in boxing, learning how to box is learning how box, once you learn how to box you’ll never forget it it’s quality over quantity, I know a few folks who boxed since kids all the way up to their teens never had pro fights, but they was just so nice with it putting professional boxers that just retired to sleep in sparing, aslongs you learn how to box weather it’s in the gym or RUclips or whatever you can and you can learn from it you’re good some people train for like 3 to 5 months and due to their genetics and lifestyle trauma etc… it’s like they’ve been boxing for years, so yeah learning how to strike and defending yourself is golden whether you’re competing or not.
@@tylique9142 Thanks for reply I appreciate it. Do you box?
@@Mraymankarate yes I box I haven’t sparred in a while honestly tho but I train to stay in shape and to stay sharpe
If you don't plan on competing, SPAR. Most people don't know how to look at another man who is trying to hurt you let alone take a punch. Spar with experienced boxers, also one class higher and one weight class lower than you, listen to your coach and get used to getting hit while also getting used to delivering combos to your opponent, you'll learn how helpless it feels to gas out and learn how to conserve your energy
You could argue that the hands of boxing, basic throws of Judo, and basic wrist locks from aikido/aiki-jujutsu would take you far enough for the world outside the gym. So I guess I just described Kudo. Anyway, boxing hands are lethal.
I do Muay Thai, Judo, and Boxing. Boxing just helps everything. I also done Wrestling because the current Judo rules are pretty bad
Well question,Lets see a video on how boxing can handle an attack with weapons on the street as real street fights often have attackers who use weapons and boxing appears not to train in any weapons nor weapon disarms and that is a big hesitation for me on wanting to box even though Bruce Lee thought highly of boxiinng ? If no video can you answer the question ?
Do you have any advice for how a boxer could adapt to kicks / wrestling / clinching / knees / elbows in a freeform type of setting like self defense or mixed ruleset? I do totally agree with the sensibility of boxing and I love it because of how streamlined it is but just wondering what would be a good strategy for nullifying other styles or tactics. Ive never trained muay thai or wrestling but I train boxing now and did traditional mantis kung fu which uses a lot of parrying, hand traps, some clinchwork, some trips and throws, some joint locking. Im always trying to round out my game and would love to get your thoughts.
Boxing mixed with Taekwondo
Try to either aikido or Muay Thai. Muay Thai is pretty heavy in kicks so naturally you’ll learn how to avoid and predict them coming. Also the clinches you’re taught will give you a good counter to a lot of those kicks. Hope this makes sense and this helps you out 👍🏾
You can easily use boxing in a such situation. The issue is being aware of enemy's weapons.
People like Nate Diaz, Illya Topuira or Borys Mańkowski are good example of boxing based MMA fighters.
About time someone said it out loud
that also might come from the fact that boxing hyper focuses on one aspect. having only one focus rather than trying to do everything all at once will lead to being significantly better at that one thing. having that hands-only focus will also lead to being able to base your footwork all around that. feel free to correct me if i’m wrong :)
Anyone put there that does boxing with some TMJ (jaw joint issues) im insecure about that
I'm a blue belt in bjj and soon to be purple and haven't boxed in many years, but am so happy I learned how to box when I did. It is very effective and straightforward for self defense and the workout itself helps my stamina when I roll in bjj. Boxing has holes just like every fighting style, but that's when it's best to combine boxing with bjj to defend yourself on the ground and learn some muay thai for the awareness of being able to defend against kicks and elbows.
Whatever the self defense or competitive goals are for striking, grappling or cage fighting, boxing is a great universal workout that everyone should have in their training routine.
I did Muay Thai now doing boxing I plan getting back into Thai. I love boxing the footwork and striking is needed.
I just started boxing and I'm overweight and it's amazing for footwork and cardio
Absolutely Champ, feel free to DM video ideas to my IG @COACH.V_
Coming from a Shotokan background, you are %100 correct. Boxing/Muay Thai, is on a different level. Most street fights, don't go to the ground. If they do, you're in trouble( you don't want to be on the ground, in a street fight).....my opinion.....
What's good Coach V? I'll take Boxing over any type of physical training all day. Your video reminded me of the Mayweather & McGregor fight(Classic)😂💯💪🏾🥊.
Yeah man no need to reinvent the wheel. And yes that’s funny the boxing versus MMA thing it’s always interesting to debate about!
Boxing because you have the rules then you can incorporate others martial arts styles striking etc into your style it works for me has made me a more fluid boxer with a little martial arts in my background
As well as what you said about body harding and conditioning etc getting used to getting hit etc very true
I view boxing as a classic in a good way too 😅
Boxing is a martial art
Yes, just not a belt oriented one
@@coachv3436same with wrestling and mma
I find it stupid to refer only belt oriented fighting styles martial arts
Great video. I did both boxing and BJJ. In my experience at the BJJ gym, the owner acted like BJJ was the end all to for all street fights. He would talk about how in a boxing stance someone could just shoot in and do a take down as if a boxer wouldn't move around or throw a hook or something. Great content!
I agree with you 100%.
Boxing is the best self defensive shit you can't beat it if u doing right 💯 🤜🏾💥👊🏾💥🤛🏾
A highly trained boxer can be scary person to get in a street fight with and plus everyone will fear and respect a man that can knock out people out
Honestly in my opinion I prefer judo over bjj, they still grappling on the floor like bjj but there takedowns are quicker and u can do it multiple times while running away
I wanna see some Coach V. Beat up the heavy bag!
As a more than 50 years of experience in martial arts(b.b. in karate and kungfu)former kickboxer in the 80 and with grappling experience too I agree with you100%.nothing give you more useful skill and attributes in so short time like boxing.
Have you seen Lawrence Kenshin fight break downs. Semper Fi
God bless Champ. Thank you for your service. I’ll have to take a look at him!
the JRE channel brings it up often
it's actually weak to put your own sport above others. Boxing is a strenuous and effective sport. But boxing is also much easier to learn than many other material arts.
Which martial artist wins in a fight is always an individual thing. In my opinion, a boxer is usually behind.
Thanks for your input but I think you completely missed the part where I said I have participated in just about all the top major martial arts way before I got involved with boxing. The point of the video is boxing is simpler and easier to advance and then most of these overcomplicated martial arts systems that hold you back so they can keep beating you in the head for belt fees and monthly dues!!
You sound like someone who got ripped off by some Jiu-Jitsu course 😂😂
Very solid points. (Coming from a karate blackbelt)
Thank you coach 🙏🏼
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Just wanted to add boxing is in fact a martial art as well. It’s the art of mastering your hands to the most efficient way possible and balance and position. But yes all major combat arts are great for anyone to learn and offer something more valuable when transitioning once you get comfortable switching arts you can take some things and have an advantage once you pick up something else
Boxing is not a martial art by definition martial arts are Asian fighting systems that are structured with belt systems boxing is the total opposite. I hate when karate people try to act like they know everything about boxing. Who's been training for 30 years and got forty stripes on their belt and never even been punched in the face for real
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy well the origination of the phrase comes from there but martial art just is a simple way of saying the art of combat either seen as a sport or for war or self defense. And yes I agree with you on some martial arts not having the experience. The advantage a lot of sport martial arts have is they have experience cause they are always fighting each other so just like anything in life you are going to get really good at it if you keep putting it to the test all the time. From my experience the difference about boxing from traditional stuff is lots of gym skip the mental practices and humility you need to develop you as a person and they just get straight to the training for boxing. If you want the spiritual side of martial arts you need the right coach or similar people that care about it
Hi can you progress in boxing training once a week?
Not very much. You would honestly have to spend at least three or four days in the gym per week on a late note fighters are in the gym six days a week on average.
@@coachv3436 what if i do once a week but for a long period like couple years will be some progress overtime?
@@lgstyli374 Do you have a punching bag? As well as a speedbag and jump rope? If you have the equipment, then just repeat the exercises at home along with shadowboxing when you can't make it to the gym.
I use to box but stopped over a decade ago. But I have continued with the exercises as I have a punching bag and jump rope. I'm also looking to get a speedbag soon. Even if people don't want to box forever or compete, the workout is very effective and should be continued on a permanent basis.
@@lgstyli374 You can shadowbox at home. But do you have a punching bag, speed bag and jump rope? When you can't make it to the gym, just repeat the workouts at home if you have the equipment.
Knowing some sort of self defence is all about trade-offs. I'm a complete amateur when it comes to this, but I like the simplicity of boxing, which has both a beauty and effectiveness to it. You can teach yourself the very basics by practising four types of punches and regularly shadowbox. It won't make you either a proper boxer or a self-defence expert, but it will at least give you something to work with, a certain amount of very basic self-confidence which is better than nothing. Most ordinary people don't have the time or will to put down hours of training in a gym, so this is one way of still acquiring some sort of extremely elementary self-defence capability. Having to learn only four ways of punching combined with some kind of footwork and evasive movement at least gives you a better chance than someone with no practice whatsoever.
What do u think is harder for u to change in ur fighters? Getting ur fighters to stop underestimating themselves or underestimating their opponents
theirselves definetly
With respect; the first few UFCs disprove what your saying pretty convincingly. People had to start learning Jiu Jitsu/Grappling before they could beat the Jiu Jitsu guy. Now if you want to come up wit some scenario where you’re fighting five guys on a bed of glass then maybe boxing might be better, maybe. But I could just as easily say what if the fight is in a tiny room that doesn’t allow the boxer to use his footwork before the grappler gets his hands on him. One on one/No holds barred the pure Jiu Jitsu guy beats the boxing guy 9 out of 10 times. Once the boxing guy learns how to defend against Jiu Jitsu then I would go with the boxer.
I agree 💯 exactly my experience
A street fight is similar to a gunfight in that it's usually the first hit on target that wins. That's where a trained boxer has the advantage over other martial arts re; hand speed, movement and distance management.
being battle tested can't be overstated. early in life I learned Karate and got my black belt in 2 years. Later on, i trained in boxing. I feel I learned more about actual fighting in 1 month boxing than I did in Karate, mainly because every day you're spending time in the ring and actually testing what you learned. Karate sparring is different, blows to head are not allowed, and they teach you mainly to just protect your torso and back from getting hit (tournament fighting). Of course that doesn't prepare you against an opponent who is coming at you trying to take your head off. Granted, what I learned in Karate wasn't useless, I learned to incorporate those into my game, but definitely boxing was more useful overall. Things you learn in Karate a lot of times were for show, but everything learned in boxing is practical. And of course once again, the sparring and actual pressure testing is crucial to know what will actually work and what won't.
There is a difference between fighting and criminal violence. Fighting is somewhat mutual to a degree, for example, two guys in a bar exchange words then step outside for a brawl. Criminal violence is sudden with little warning, for example, a group of teens playing the knockout game & sneaking up on a victim. Criminal violence often involves two or more attackers, an armed attacker or both. The best defense against criminal violence is an equalizer such as a pistol or pepper spray & of course general awareness of your surroundings. Unarmed against criminal violence I would definitely take boxing & wrestling before all other styles, what you need when SHFT is simplicity. However keep in mind unarmed no matter what style you are very much behind the power curve when facing criminal violence.
Im unexperienced but I agree. I don't even want to be able to fight necessarily. I just want to know I can take punches or kicks and not crumble...I feel like all other martial arts with their ability to tap out removes this element of pain and fear of the unexpected that striking arts have. Also it seems that wrestling seems like the most realistic grappling style. It's the closest things to two apes just dueling. Start off standing up and go from there. BJJ with the gi and everything seems to be too technical at first for simple self defense purposes. I want to learn the basics of strking and grappling, not learn about how to grip a lapel and all that.
Ever heard of a suit or jacket? I primary train no gi, but when I put on a gi there are soooooo many ways you can control or be controlled. This will translate to suits jackets and jeans.
What it added in my boxing fighting style against a boxer, is kick there knees or traps there hands. And yes is 70% of fighter do end at the ground. Unless you got good foot work and some good counter. If not That's way everyone should learn some kind of ground fighting.
Personally have a base in boxing. But I think that a year of boxing with no grappling is worse off than a year of grappling with no boxing. I do believe striking should be the main focus as it takes longer to be better than the general population. But everyone, if you don’t wanna be a victim, should have at least 6 months to a year of grappling(wrestling, bjj, judo).
Everything you said it’s great coach .but I have seen different types of fighters in the French legion but guys who know boxing and hace some basic of kicking I seen then do better than most .
I agree and have always known this. Boxing is very good as a foundational system. Especially the sparring. Boxing teaches effective use of head movement, footwork, develops your speed and power, you learn to take hits and keep on fighting, etc. I actually started in martial arts and my very first class was Aikido but at the same time I was boxing too. Lots of sparring in my teen years and my 20's. Throughout the years I trained in many different systems, everything from Karate to BJJ.
However as good as boxing is I don't believe it is the best. It can develop a person into a fighter in the shortest time possible, that is one of it's strengths. It doesn't take very long to see results and majority of martial arts especially the traditional systems progress is very slow and it could take years before you are truly effective and gain significant results from your training. One of the drawbacks to martial arts. To really get good it takes a long time. The advantage however is you can hold your own and it makes you effective against a bigger larger attacker. The techniques are designed to cripple and take the body apart, it will also prepare you for situations where you are forced to end someone's life. Boxing doesn't. Throwing hooks, jabs, uppercuts and cross punches can only take you so far. Other than the liver and the chin boxing doesn't go for the most vulnerable areas. Punching a much larger stronger attacker in his head and face or his body might not be enough, even if you have a speed advantage. Also you have to condition your knuckles because if you punch someone in the head without gloves or wraps around your hand you could break your hand. Martial arts teaches this plus you learn to use different parts of your hand as well as your elbows, forearms, your head, your feet, etc. Even your fingers which are particularly good for attacking the eyes. Boxing doesn't teach any pressure points. Martial artists especially in the more advanced Chinese martial arts gets deep into that area of study.
Also boxing has no defense against certain martial art techniques such as leg kicks and what is known as trapping and limb destruction which is commonly taught in Filipino martial arts as well as Wing Chun/Jeet Kune Do. Silat ( Indonesian martial art ) also has this as well as many types of sweeps and attacking from the ground, very unorthodox and unpredictable ways of fighting.
Be able to strike, grapple, throw pin. Takes lots of years of reps and sparring various body types. Ages strength levels etc have fun.
BOXING IS A MARTIAL ART. DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION you can defend yourself against multiple attackers . People should enroll their children into boxing classes before anything else. If a kid KNOWS how to box that will STOP the bullies.
As a martial artists myself and ive boxed. Boxing is very efficient and effective to real world practical. I also believe traditional karate, judo , muay thai , bjj it depends on how you take the art and who youre learning from. Boxing does enhance your skills as a martial artist. Judo wrestling boxing does work in the street bjj helps you not panic if you were on the floor karate and muay thai is effective is you use old school methods like low kicks knees and elbows.
What about Muay Thai vs boxing. Besides that, I think it's necessary to learn at least stand-up grappling (wrestling/judo/sambo etc.) cause its way too easy to break your hand punching someone. You don't have gloves and hand wraps in an altercation.
Started Boxing in 2001, TKD 2years, and currently Blue Belt in BJJ. I usually pull opponents up by grabbing their ankles. Passing guard, than use boxing for ground and pound. Boxing is a lot easier to learn than BJJ in my opinion(age 44 with some wisdom).
In my opinion a good boxer with solid take down defense & ability to check leg kicks that would be the “elite fighter”.
Its more like 60% judo/jujutsu,
20% boxing, 20% Kickboxing or karate.
Thats what they learn in the military.
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No, thats why they learn martial arts
Again one punch can kill a person choking somebody can to but not as fast that’s why I prefer boxing
I understand you don’t know this and it’s not a big deal because most people don’t but you threw karate into the box of “belt based styles” that aren’t as good as boxing in a street fight. If you do some research you would see karate is an umbrella term and that there are MANY styles of karate all of which are different. There are styles of karate that are literally just kickboxing (punches to the face and body, kicks to the face and body, clinch, sweeps, full contact). So I would have to disagree and say that there are some styles of karate that would suit someone better in a street fight than boxing would. Check one of my recent shorts, I show the weaknesses of pure boxing in a street fight. Great video and some great points man🙏🏻
The point that coach was making, was during the first 6 to 12 of training boxing will be ahead.
@@legion162 yeah I don’t necessarily agree with that for all belt based styles. I get he was making a vast generalization but I just doubt he knows the hundreds of different forms of karate by heart. I’m telling you an American Kempo karate guy or full contact Kyokushin guy with 6-12 months experience vs a boxer with 6-12 months experience wouldn’t be a shutout. Boxer would get leg kicked into oblivion then tripped to the ground
@@nicholasmessina6406 The most practical branches of hard-style Karate are Shidokan Karate (Yoshiji Soeno's Japanese style), Seidokaikan Karate, Daigaku Karate Kai, Kyokushin Budokai (Jon Bluming's Dutch offshoot) and Vinicio Antony's IAKJ (International Association of Karate Jutsu). They work better in the ring than the mainstream branches because they retain Jiyu Kumite (freestyle sparring) with fingerless gloves and reintroduce grappling into their curriculum like the old days before the cursed emergence of Sport Karate. A lot of the boxing and MMA communities don't know those branches for some weird reasons.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 very smart! Thank you so much for letting me know🙏🏻
Boxing is great... take a wrong step forward and a muay thai guy can takr out your leg. Get taken to the ground and you are in a bjj guys world.
Solution.... train in striking and grappling.
When u kick a boxer in the legs on their approach they are like a dear in the head lights in my experience.
Hey, if you have the free time - do both. Hell, train in striking, wrestling AND get yourself a concealed carry and maybe even some knife training. The point is to be hard to kill, right? Why not go all in? That's what I'm doing.
I think your opinion is MOST applicable if you exclude the sport boxing rules and include the full conditioning repetoire that professional boxers utilize for sanctioned bouts. That type of training would most likely compare and compete against combat oriented martial arts. Make sure to include EVERY technique, such as trapping, slipping, clinching that may be more commonly found in Muay Thai Boxing.
I love boxing 🥊🥊 plus I did very hard work
For self defense i only ever used boxing, and if i couldn't escape grappling i used wrestling, i used to do wrestling in high school, but boxing ever since i was 6 until 18, i sid train some muay thai and bjj in mma,
But I always found boxing better for me, and wrestling.
My plan is to do boxing at least 2 years then would like to do judo