I completely agree with you about what you said about Big Hit filming the members when they’re sick and tired, that’s so bizarre to me why you would film such personal and intimate moments of someone and then broadcast it for all the fans to see. And then so many armys romanticize that behaviour of overworking yourself. It’s got to stop.
ARMYS praise Big Hit for showing that side of BTS, showing their “real selves” or whatever, but really they’re just shoving a camera up the boys’ faces every second of the day, basically controlling their lives. The irony.
GREEDY WHO👁👄👁 ANYWAYS U SPITTING FACTS BESTIE - I LOVE JUNGKOOK AND MUCH AS I LOVE HAN JISUNG ( MY FAV K-POP IDOL) BUT THE ATTENTION JUNGKOOK GAINS ANNOYS ME , I'D DEFINITELY SAY THAN JUNGKOOK IS FEW PEOPLES FAV JUST CUZ OF HIS LOOKS
@@btstaeverse2143 thats what i wanna say. The fact that people stan him for his looks instead of his talent is the worst of all. And Bighit is greedy these days because like, for Dynamite they released a lot of B-Sides and a lot of Remixes which they dont even do with a Korean single. (BTW HIGH FIVE CUZ HAN JISUNG IS MY FAV AS WELL)
Well this explains a lot, I’ve been wondering why Armys are so diehard about getting them every possible award over everyone else, and when other people complain about it, they defend it by saying ‘they deserve it, because they’ve worked so hard!’ As a multi, this made no sense to me since this is k-pop; what artist doesn’t work hard!? But if they are constantly shown images of their faves being pushed beyond the limits of reason, no wonder they’d feel they have to match this passion...
Thank you for calling out Big Hit on their bullshit! I don’t know why so many ARMYS act like Big Hit is the best company. It’s weird how you always see them complain about other companies for things that Big Hit is literally doing as well. They say YG is too controlling of Blackpink, but they can’t even see that Big Hit does the same thing with BTS. They say that JYP infantilizes women (TWICE), yet no one talks about how Big Hit infantilizes men. They complain about how SM overworks its idols and just uses them for money (the whole “they created SuperM for money” argument), but they can’t even see how Big Hit is milking the fuck out of BTS and overworking them so much. Big Hit has really got so many armys fooled lol
This is so baffling! The amount of backlash I've received from this video is insane. People are left and right not only defending BigHit, I even got a death threat in some foreign language☠️
Bang PD has personally affirmed himself as someone who always makes sure he gets what he wants. In an interview he did about the success of BTS, he was asked if his mentor JYP was a bit envious of his success with BTS in the west especially the American market. He replied by saying that JYP was actually happy for him and what differentiates him from JYP is once he sets his mind to achieve something, he keeps his eyes on the prize no matter the setback and keeps pressing on instead of changing directions. This is evident even in the way he manages BTS. He makes sure he pushes them and pushes them and squeezes them for all they are worth. Like BTS singlehandedly built what is now this big corporation, I mean literally with their "blood sweat and tears". Yes, he was instrumental in nurturing them and contributing to their successes through his vision and management tactics but lets not pretend that we don't know whose bank account had by far the better end of the deal. Well, unfortunately that's how the entertainment industry works, its all about the bottom line and to survive in such a market, no matter how pure one's intentions were in the beginning, once they become part of the elite, they want to remain there at the top and will do anything to remain there and whoever believes otherwise is just kidding themselves.
Thank you for providing constructive criticisms. Very brave of you. I only became a fan of BTS in Oct 2021. I consumed a lot of their content since then but after awhile, I realise BTS were overworked. It's great that you point out about BigHit's capitalist agenda. Jin is my favourite member and I can't believe his recent merchandise, a pair of pyjamas was sold for US$100 excluding shipping!
Bts really does need more rest I love them so much but they can't even spend time with there family like they want or take vacations by themselves or family because there always needed.great video!
They look so done these days !!! Honestly they are only dragging themselves for winning Grammy as they are making more english songs which can become hit in America !
The BIGGEST offenders for BTS's "Dynamite" are how the song is marketed and the (barely enough) transparency. It's not that good songs can't be profitable, just be more TRANSPARENT in your marketing! (Looking at you, Big Hit.)
I agree with most of this. I also feel guilty when watching them cry, watching them struggle. It hurts when I see them in tears or when I see them in pain. One of the hardest moments was that 2018 MAMA award ceremony when J-Hope took the mic first. He got through like... 1 paragraph and started crying. The genuine PAIN on his face had me in tears. Watching their shoulders SHAKE with emotion. It's so painful to watch. Although I think, the off stage thing, as uncomfortable as I find it, I think if BTS really wanted them to stop filming, they would have asked. They would have twisted away and hid their faces. They didn't. To me, I think this shows that they trust their company not to take things too far. BigHit censors their faces sometimes (Jin on the roller coaster...). I do absolutely hate these scenes. They make me cry. Also, this isn't exactly BTS-relevant, but when Jonghyun from SHINee passed away and the photographers were filming idol reactions? BTS was also there. Why do people think that's necessary? It's clear these moments are private and should be private. If someone I loved passed away, I would not want a camera shoved in my face. Wouldn't want a money thirsty person to film my reaction, probably excited as I'm crying because they're going to earn money off my tears. That's creepy. That's something idols don't deserve. But I think sometimes BTS almost... I mean I can't say for certain, but I think they want us to know these things sometimes. Want us to know it's okay, not to be okay. BTS is all about authenticity as you've said. Remember the way V announced his grandma's passing to ARMY? Also, about the Vlive thing, I... agree and disagree. I don't know whether it IS or ISN'T their ideas, because actually I can see Jimin just on a whim wanting to make food and asking the staff how to make it. In Vlives, I think the staff are there to watch and help them out, more than control them. They don't seem to be controlled. They don't look... too tense... if you know what I'm saying? And like, they still do those Vlives where they talk about nothing. Admittedly, their mostly birthday Vlives, but a while ago, before Jungkook and RM's birthday's, I remember watching Jimin just chatting in a Vlive. But the whole thing about TxT, I agree with. It makes me sad too. I think BigHit is really pushing the 'cute' image. Like their idols are always portrayed as cute nowadays. Oh do a cute pose here, or, show us your cutest pose, even like, how would you say/do this aegyo. *sigh... I also completely agree with the remixes. Have you heard the remixes of butter? That weird auto tune thing they put on their voices ew. Also dynamite itself I just... I can't. I can understand the meaning and stuff of the song. I understand it's supposed to "cheer us up". But like. They didn't write that song. They had nothing to do with the song. Not even Namjoon who is often credited in BTS songs had input on that song. I don't HEAR any meaning behind the song. Have you read the lyrics??? I find 'Life Goes On' from the BE album to be more soothing, honestly. Also, Dynamite itself was just a massive... okay don't come at me, but that song was a literal joke. I don't know if BTS likes that song, and I really hope they do because oh lord. The amount of times they had to perform that ONE song in America was insane. Literally all the big interviewers and stuff were getting them on the show to sing that ONE song (most except like... Jimmy Fallon and... James Corden...). They rarely performed other songs. ESPECIALLY their Korean songs. That's what made me mad. Dynamite brought in so much profit, but for what? The songs not even that good. Sure, it's catchy. But the lyricism cannot compare to all those other BTS songs. Fake Love? Spring Day? To name the more popular ones because my favourite songs with the prettiest lyrics don't get very much hype. Not gonna lie, I agree that the gift for fan things is really a push, although it's obvious that this is what BTS themselves want (the concert), the wording seems a little strange... we're not a pot plant you need to 'nurture'. However, I think that most the things that BTS and BigHit do, is indeed for ARMY and to please us. That being said, although it is to please us, it's more for the money and they're using ARMY as an excuse. I still believe that BigHit is a good company. Not in the way they treat fans, but in the way they treat BTS.
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Girl preach.Idk why more armys don't talk about it.It always rubbed in the wrong way at how much of their life is being shared with us.Not only bangtan tv,there's run bts,vlive,weverse.So much content.It's entertaining but we don't need so many.Basically there's always a camera at their faces.Being such big stats,Idk why do they need to work so hard.Bh really be milking the shit outta them.It always irked me at how many armies think bh is the best company ever.I don't trust a single company in kpop industry.
first again ❤️ and tbh eshanti i agree with everything you said, people are stanning the company instead of the idols and it genuinely surprises me when some people defend the company, like GO AND DEFEND YOUR ARTISTS NOT THE COMPANY and some people try to say that "how can you say this bighit is the best company ever, they provide content for their idols, they pay them well and they protect their artists from sasaengs" and I'm like yeah it's their responsibility as a company but what about their artist's mental and emotional health? their physical capabilities? and tbh some series don't even seen genuine anymore, i mean yeah they enjoy and shit but nowadays it doesn't seem genuine like it used to be, back in the rookie days-
I agree! As much as I enjoy watching edited compilations of BTS, the shitload of content is getting out of hand. A more "extreme" example for the opposite end of the spectrum is BLACKPINK. Despite not releasing as much content as BTS, they're not overworked at least (though some aspects should be criticized). I get that K-pop is more than just the music, but I feel like fans are partly at fault for demanding way too much. As a critical fan myself, we really need to draw the line on the fandom aspect. (Don't mean to pit BLACKPINK and BTS against each other. I mentioned them because I love both groups.)
That's something that's always fascinated me! YG and BigHit are both on the extreme opposites of the spectrum. Strategy of Yg is to deprive fans of content while BigHit's strategy is to overwhelm fans with content to develop more of a parasocial relationship
@@eshantiyt Could you do a video analysis on that? It’s much to be talked about since BLACKPINK and BTS are currently the biggest K-pop acts outside of Asia.
wow when reality hits u hard thnx for telling me this keep doing wat u are doing lub u lub bts and bp ps i thought yg was shit and bighit was gold thnx for breaking my delulu oh and one more thing i couldnt buy any merch cause im broke and the price is skyhigh
I did think that BTS was being milked out too much but your video was coherent. I mean they are popular now it's okay to capitalise that but they're compromising on values eg. the bang bang con narrative that you mentioned. This was a well made video 👍
suddenly I want this video framed. This is completely true, when I was still an army and saw that they released a burn the stage documentary where they documented everything that happens off stage. From the preparations and everything which is kinda nice to see how they work and how much effort they put into but somehow when they showed the members being tired, needing oxygen, or treating injuries is too intimate and too private?? including the fact that you are being filmed in such a vulnerable state. That's kind of disturbing to see. yes sure, the members maybe agreed or gave consent for them to get filmed but Idk but it seems like a marketing strat to me. When a company releases a video or a footage of an idol being tired, overworked, sleeping or any vulnerable state they are in, whether it has consent or not, it becomes a card for fans to use on awardings which causes a lot of fanwars. For example, "Group A deserved the award more than group B since they worked too hard". Aren't idols work hard? I mean it's in their system. It doesn't mean that Group A worked more, that they should deserve the award. Every idol deserve an award because they work so hard so fans should stop using the 'they worked too hard, they deserve more' card just to invalidate the other kgroups. Also with the vlives being sometimes scripted is true. I've seen a lot of vlives where they have staff behind the camera but honestly it's not bad because if it was me I will be panicking in front of a camera with millions of viewers esp if I'm alone. Having a staff monitoring you helps esp if you needed something right away on cam. I will never be a company stan, I only stan talent ;) Anyways, a very nice video! @enshanti
“Bedroom remix? Seriously? What are we supposed to do? Make babies?” 😂 Epic line. Thank you for this amazing video. I am a big fan of BTS, but lately, everything they do seems to be orchestrated by the company to generate money and more money only. Of course, BH is an entertainment business whose sole aim to make profit, but it should not have to be at the expense of the members’ emotional health. I love BTS, but lately, I am trying to wrap my head around the overtly capitalist aspects of their content production. And I am trying to reconcile my love for bts with my personal views about the industrialised aspect of their content.✌️🏽
this gave me sm more perspectives!! I've felt off about bighit's capitalism for a while now, definitly since I used to know bts as a group with strong anticapitalist messages like 'no more dream', and their comany totally just threw that away and their morals, it's so sad to see all of this tbh.
lol or maybe people who genuinely disagree with eshanti and are ready to present valid reasons for it. Don't say things like that. Everyone has the choice of disagreeing and the dislike button is for that 💀
well i agree with some and disagree with some. but like the merch of the dynamite success party was just so obvious. t-shirts and the design was just so *l a m e* yes i said it it was *l a m e* . also the recnt water bottles ? what's up with that. the new bighit marketing team is kinda lame to promote such stuff. the marketing during the bwl era was top tier. i defnitely am not a fan of the dynamite merch or the water bottles.
I am glad you made a video speaking about the capitalism of BTS by BH. I could sense that will happen as they gained momentum in the US and other countries. There are stores selling merchandise with bts on them and BT21. There is a store called hottopic that is selling merchandise with tinytan on them. I guess BH partnered with Hottopic in order for them to sell tinytan. I don't like seeing how a member will be so extremely exhausted behind the stage that makes me feel that I shouldn't cheer as much for them by knowing that they become exhausted to the point of needing that oxygen canister and collapsing. I don't want to get the feeling I become desensitized by seeing that happen to them. I love to see them perform their music but performing to when they exert themselves is a downer ☹
okay. tbh, we all have an opinion so i respect your opinion. i'll just speak my opinion here. i'm a moarmy. a proud army that loves bts not for their popularity but for their personalities and talents. a proud moa who loves all 5 members of txt not for their visuals nor their company. in fact, if they weren't apart of big hit, i would still stan them 100%. the movie? yes, it may seem offensive to some people when they show the injuries and incidents that happen but you know what? it's a documentary movie. showing the sides of bts that big hit and bts themselves never show. showing that there are always struggles for success. bts is what they are today because of their mistakes. the part where you say 'as a fan, seeing my idol in this condition is absolutely horrifying.' that is very true but you're being very direct to barely a few armys who say that. most armys don't try to say 'omg. they are working so hard for us.' no. we always put their health first. i bet you that if you see the comments, they say 'are they okay?' or 'give bts a break. they need it.' again, this is my opinion.
I respect your opinion, in that segment I was only addressing the armies who romanticise member's pain. I get that everyone has their own struggles but working someone to the point of exhaustion doesn't sit right with me imo
Its partially because of big hit's promotional tactics that BTS has become so famous in the west with their fans growing exponentially. So BTS is not entirely a victim in this whole ordeal either. They have also profited hugely off of this. Especially now, when they are being recognised as equals by the western artists (which is a great thing). So the narrative that big hit has squeezed them for their own greed is only partially true, imo. They both have helped each other succeed, they both worked to make fans happy and they both have been capitalists. And with every concert ticket price, ever merch, every brand collab i remebered how yoongi hated capitalism. It seems, you only hate capitalism when you're poor. And yes i am an army. But i can have my opinions whether someone agrees or not. And i loved the video. You summed up everything perfectly.💗
I couldn't agree MORE!! Ofc bts deserves all of this fame and promotion but fr bighit is really just milking off their fame, and it's sad unfortunate that fans don't see it because they just think of it as just normal daily content but I got to say it "BTS ARE OVERWORKED!" like there is no disagreement to that. When they finally got a proper break was after Boy with Luv fans were complaining about where was the content, comebacks, promotions, vlives etc. Not knowing that their last break before that WAS 3-4 YEARS AGO! Imagine being overworked for 3-4 years and your fans complaining about it? Also, I'm still waiting for bighit to address the oversexualizing/infant sizing of the members to themselves as well as other idols, the members even said that they weren't comfortable with it and fans still manage to do it. That's literally one of my pet peeves of this fandom like when a member gets hurt they just reply with "awww poor baby hope you get better soon sweetie" like stop they are literally ADULTS, ALMOST TO THEIR 30s, this is just an overall problem in kpop fandoms but it's mostly being used in the army fandom. BigHit needs to do something about this for real, and actually let bts have proper care.
ok wow someone finally put into words what I've been subconsciously thinking for a while. 1) Yes, it's absolutely disgusting to shove a camera in the member's face when they literally have 2 minutes to inhale some supplemental oxygen and get back on stage. I get it they need to capture everything and other artists do doc shows like this too but that doesn't make it any better. 2) But regarding how busy BTS is, it's a little grey area for me bc yes ofc they were busy (especially 2017-2019) but with their new contract I think it will be different. They probably prepare everything years in advance and probably already have plans for BTS when different members enlist for military service. They also seem to like what they are doing and seem to have a good relationship with BSH. 3)Regarding their 'authenticity' yea they probably didn't wake up one day and were like 'let's paint army bombs' but I mean I still think they are open to say what they want. Due to their level of fame, they just need staff to do damage control if necessary asap. Same with TXT they have the manpower to have staff to be with TXT. It sucks that they have to play an 'image' but most idol groups do in the beginning. 4) Dynamite isn't a song I like but I'm happy it's doing well on the charts maybe since I've been an army for a while (stanned them since Run era anyone else?) I've seen the way they changed their music to be marketable. It's what makes them money, catering to what their general target audience with like. But like I think it's fine because I respect their message and I listen to the songs I like from them. I don't feel obligated to like everything they put out (trust me I don't nor do I have the time to lol) 3)Bighit as a company motives are no different from other companies, I think it is weird that they are put on a pedestal compared to other companies. BSH is a billionaire now he is way beyond thinking about these groups, it's all about what will get him the money to prove to the world how successful he can make his company. 4)For example what they did with Iland, was basically made to help with their IPO. I didn't like ILAND I just felt like everything was so staged (the competition and crying) and like none of the performances were even live. Did I ever hear their live vocals? Also, they are debuting this year with 04' and 05' liners like really young (Niki is literally still going to be 14 when they debut). It has barely been two years since TXT debut and Ik they are managed through another company but still. But at the end of the day do I unstan Bighit? Idk. Bighit is doing what they need to do to be competitive in their market just like everyone else. Name one 'good company that treated their idols fairly and not like cash cows' I'll wait
I feel you totally! What Big Hit are doing is clearly working out for them but through this video my intention was just to portray that no one is above criticism. Of course, all entertainment companies are the same but the way people defend bighit, it seems like they genuinely think that bighit is the greatest company on the planet earth, saying things like "we stan the right company" Also same I've been a BTS fan since 2015.I wanted to include the I-land point in my video as well but chickened out in the last moment lol
I have watched all I-land episodes and there seemed to have not been much vocal practicing and hearing singing just dancing, practice dancing, and just dance focus.
I agree with you and Bighit should just make a go fund me if they want money that bad Because some of the merch isn't even that good of quality 😑✋ Ps.could you make a video about kpop songs of 2020 you didn't and did like the most😊
Imagine, 1 song but too many various VC. They keep 7 of them work, work and work. The company keep makes them work and only give them couple days of day off for a year. Honestly, i do not watch all of them, just the original official MV. You know something that too much can make you fed-up. Just let them enjoy the healing moment, give us Army time too to miss them. I wish a good work environment and better management at Hybe.
Same I don't even have the time to watch all the videos they do.When I begging to join them I was thinking that everything they do is for ARMY,But my smart ass starting make question about if they were genuine or not cuz I didn't find it normal?!? that 7 men act always like everything is pink and flower.Whateva I always supporting them cuz I like their music but I don't feel "connected" with them from the point to buy their merchandise(actin like I have the money💀).
When it comes to "company stans", I want to bang my head against the wall every time they put certain K-pop companies on a pedestal (the current/most notorious cases being Big Hit and JYP). I feel like these fans have really turned a blind eye to those companies' injustices and the fact that they're still parts of a problematic industry. This is why I stan the artists, not the companies that represent them. As long as they’re happy, I wouldn’t mind if my favourite artists switched companies. ruclips.net/video/XojzuZU4r1o/видео.html
I totally agree with your opinion. My ex colleague stans SM and I cannot understand the reasons for stanning a company that didn't take care of their artists' mental health. My favourite Kpop group didn't renew contract so they left their company BUT did not disband. I cannot wait for their comeback 💚🐣
I think having staff on Vlive is a normal thing, but the staff should be there to handle the cameras and lighting etc. not micro manage their behaviour or actions like you said Yes, I loooooved BTS' older content - like even tho I'm not an Army I can see how authentic they were in the past and they were actually really funny. Compared to TXT rn, I still remember that supposedly "funny" segment when one of the members chased the other down with an umbrella that is just so conveniently placed beside him... ONLY 1 umbrella, placed there, near the window, beside the member who gets teased "randomly".... yeah it was staged for sure :(( Personally rn, I think the group with the funniest and most authentic Vlive content is Treasure and Seventeen. Oh and maybe Loona too HAHA.
About being recorded backstage exhausted, its something that almost all companies do to show thar our artists work very hard and stuff. Yes what u said was right, but it's not just hybe .💜
Tell me one idol group showing so much of their backstage.😇 Bro, if any company other than Big Hit mainly the Big3, show their artists suffering from exhaustion or falling like that and fainting, later the company will start getting hate for mistreatment of their artists. Double standards 👏. If SM or YG does what Big Hit does of taking video of their artists fainting and suffocating, SM and YG will be in huge trouble.
@@trollerexo5648 I don't know how much is so much, but almost all of them like the big ones also like Blackpink, Twice etc. do. Also them being exhausted doesn't always have to be that they r being overworked, it's their profession, they work hard by their own as well. Ofcourse overworking is another problem tho.
i agree with the stanning bighit part, but i totally disagree with you on bighit artists not getting to show their real selves. like c'mon, do you think idols can ever be their true selves when the general public is constantly scrutinizing every action of theirs? also, why are you making it sound as if bts are the most authentic artists out there who only do the things they like? yeah they are given creative freedom,but just as any other idol,there is a certain image they ought to maintain. they too are told how to act in many situations and it shows. Moreover,Jikook doing that gimbap making live, how do you know they were forced to do it and were being monitored by staff in fear of what they might blurt out? that is a pretty dubious assumption. Its quarantine, armys are craving for bts content and there is a need to keep bts buzz going . jikook themselves might have came up with that or maybe they just agreed to the company's suggestion. the staff might have very well been there for some sort of help and not to "control" them. same goes for txt, like cmon how can you say the staffs r at the back asking them not to act like their true selves? even if the staffs werent there, its not like txt would just pour their hearts out. i know the staff might be there to make sure they dont say anything that might spark a controversy, but that is only cos of how quick kpop stans r to jump on the cancel train. Kpop idols arent given as much freedom as the western idols, thats a fact. but that isnt just limited to bighit. thats how it is for every entertainment industry out there. Ofc idols like jae from day6 receives a lotta freedom, but its only him in that band that ha sthe privilege. Coming back to bighit, idk about txt since they r still rookies and might be being controlled , but bts..i dont think so. I really dont think the staff being present during some of their lives is enough proof to deduce that theory. so yea...
besides, we cant really just say that these idols enjoy everything they do, like the games they play,etc. its all a scheme to feed fans' need to consume their faves' content. And , i dont think its okay to just corner bighit when they are in reality better than manyy entertainment companies out there in many aspects. Lol but yea, that doesnt call for stanning bighit, which is essentially, just an other ent. company . Anyways, all that aside, this was a pretty realistic video .
@@pigeonheadspace Let’s not forget that K-pop idols are trained to be entertainers. Who trains the idols? The companies they’re signed to. Even if a company is better in certain aspects, it’s still a business at the end of the day.
@@PinkNintendoDuo87 exacly..i totally agree to tht. But thats how it is. Thats how it is for every company . So thats why i mentioned we should compare the other aspects.
exactly and not to mention the artists have a GREAT relationship with staffs and are very comfortable to be on camera because they had training to not be nervous/awkward on lives. That's an important part of kpop
I think there is a reason why BTS were asked to do lives with them making bracelets or dalgona coffee what not. There is a pandemic and they didn't have a choice but to make more content for their fans. Constant content and communication is needed especially with them having fans. Due to the nature of the Vlives, obviously there will be staff behind the scenes. Those lives were giving BTS and Bighit time to plan better content during this trying time. They planned a world tour for God's sake, of course the company would have freaked out because of what happened. If you think about it, after those lives, a lot of quality content were given to their fans such as online concerts, In the Soop, Run episodes and genuine livestreams. I would have to agree tho, I am not a fan of those lives. Just my two cents with what you have observed
I just think it’s funny though to make them do such activities all the time. They are grown men, I’m sure they don’t want to spend their off-days making bracelets, being filmed like they are children. They should be allowed to enjoy their time off and hangout with their family and friends, do adult things, rather than have to sit down and cater to fans 24/7, even on their days off from performing.
@@zuko_24568 would you prefer if they did no lives at all and didn’t interact with their fans? They might be given suggestions about it but if they didn’t want to do that, I’m sure they could’ve just done an ordinary vlive. Hoseok literally gave the bracelets he made to the members and they all looked happy with them. Of course they’re going to do things that cater for us, that’s literally what their job is. I think a lot of you forget that they love what they do.
because they are selling their products to us.. and putting BTS's face on their products. If they sell merch with bad quality or low quality as a consumer you should give them your honest feedback because it can reflect badly on the artists they are using. If you pay for anything, you spend your money it is within your right to complain. I still don't get how this relates to BTS. You can love your artists and call out their company if they make bad decisions. That's the right thing to do.
@@eshantiyt very well said. I notice that they made unfair profits and monopoly against the fans. We feel obligated sometimes because we feel the unconditional love bts gave to us but i find it funny they're selling tiny tan chopsticks and utensils, even drinking bottle and stickers with worth $20 LOL. Bts didn't even get to $30 million since how bighit milking them too much. Notice how some company give some money to their artist ex Gd we all know that Gd does had names under Komca, chanel ambassador and a huge succesor but Bts is still more popular than Gd yet didn't get a half of Gd getting.
@@PinkNintendoDuo87 companies don't only consist of a few people dictating idols what to do or bussiness people in suits lmao. Companies consist of much much more than that. You can always be a company stan. There's a reason why YG stans, SM stans, JYP stans exist. As a YG stan, I love their dancers (YGX), models, building (lol just check it out. who wouldn't?), mascot Krunk, their extremely famous, cafeteria, idols, savage editors, "Baymax" managers, "babysitter" staffs, beautiful practice rooms, top-class equipment, fashion brand, etc etc. Legit every single thing in YG has its own separate fandom. And that's a part of beauty of being a YG stan. SM and JYP stans would say the same things lol.
@@skyward7903 same, I wouldn't call myself i stan of a company, but a few years back I would call myself a YG stan because I stanned almost every artist from YGE, as well as the same stuff you mentioned in your comment. I just disagree with their management but I like everything else.
If I've learned anything in 2020, it's to not STAN companies
the fact that company stans exist is so questionable...how do people stan a corporation smh
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I don't know how that comment went through twice 😂
I completely agree with you about what you said about Big Hit filming the members when they’re sick and tired, that’s so bizarre to me why you would film such personal and intimate moments of someone and then broadcast it for all the fans to see. And then so many armys romanticize that behaviour of overworking yourself. It’s got to stop.
Exactly!
ARMYS praise Big Hit for showing that side of BTS, showing their “real selves” or whatever, but really they’re just shoving a camera up the boys’ faces every second of the day, basically controlling their lives. The irony.
As a non toxic army 😌I agree with you whole heartedly keep making AWSOME content and being the awsome person you are🤗💜
means a lot, thank you so much💜
We need more of you in this fandom 😩👌
"Big bum" only wants our money that why ive only Stan groups not company's
Great contnt.
lmfao
That's what all companies want.
Things to add,
1. Overwork
2. Favoursim (mostly Jungkook)
3. They are mostly greedy
4. Monopoly in the industry
GREEDY WHO👁👄👁
ANYWAYS U SPITTING FACTS BESTIE -
I LOVE JUNGKOOK AND MUCH AS I LOVE HAN JISUNG ( MY FAV K-POP IDOL) BUT THE ATTENTION JUNGKOOK GAINS ANNOYS ME , I'D DEFINITELY SAY THAN JUNGKOOK IS FEW PEOPLES FAV JUST CUZ OF HIS LOOKS
@@btstaeverse2143 thats what i wanna say. The fact that people stan him for his looks instead of his talent is the worst of all. And Bighit is greedy these days because like, for Dynamite they released a lot of B-Sides and a lot of Remixes which they dont even do with a Korean single.
(BTW HIGH FIVE CUZ HAN JISUNG IS MY FAV AS WELL)
Well this explains a lot, I’ve been wondering why Armys are so diehard about getting them every possible award over everyone else, and when other people complain about it, they defend it by saying ‘they deserve it, because they’ve worked so hard!’ As a multi, this made no sense to me since this is k-pop; what artist doesn’t work hard!? But if they are constantly shown images of their faves being pushed beyond the limits of reason, no wonder they’d feel they have to match this passion...
true!
Thank you for calling out Big Hit on their bullshit! I don’t know why so many ARMYS act like Big Hit is the best company. It’s weird how you always see them complain about other companies for things that Big Hit is literally doing as well. They say YG is too controlling of Blackpink, but they can’t even see that Big Hit does the same thing with BTS. They say that JYP infantilizes women (TWICE), yet no one talks about how Big Hit infantilizes men. They complain about how SM overworks its idols and just uses them for money (the whole “they created SuperM for money” argument), but they can’t even see how Big Hit is milking the fuck out of BTS and overworking them so much. Big Hit has really got so many armys fooled lol
This is so baffling! The amount of backlash I've received from this video is insane. People are left and right not only defending BigHit, I even got a death threat in some foreign language☠️
@@eshantiyt that’s ridiculous. It’s a company lol not even a real person. What is there to stan?😂
@@zuko_24568 I don't get it either😂
Armys are sheep that’s why
Bang PD has personally affirmed himself as someone who always makes sure he gets what he wants. In an interview he did about the success of BTS, he was asked if his mentor JYP was a bit envious of his success with BTS in the west especially the American market. He replied by saying that JYP was actually happy for him and what differentiates him from JYP is once he sets his mind to achieve something, he keeps his eyes on the prize no matter the setback and keeps pressing on instead of changing directions. This is evident even in the way he manages BTS. He makes sure he pushes them and pushes them and squeezes them for all they are worth. Like BTS singlehandedly built what is now this big corporation, I mean literally with their "blood sweat and tears". Yes, he was instrumental in nurturing them and contributing to their successes through his vision and management tactics but lets not pretend that we don't know whose bank account had by far the better end of the deal. Well, unfortunately that's how the entertainment industry works, its all about the bottom line and to survive in such a market, no matter how pure one's intentions were in the beginning, once they become part of the elite, they want to remain there at the top and will do anything to remain there and whoever believes otherwise is just kidding themselves.
Facts!
I’ve always thought vlives are sometimes scripted loll
hahaha
Everything you said is so true! As an army this is the most nicest criticism of BigHit I've ever heard. Thank you for making a pragmatic video
Thank you so much
Thank you for providing constructive criticisms. Very brave of you.
I only became a fan of BTS in Oct 2021. I consumed a lot of their content since then but after awhile, I realise BTS were overworked. It's great that you point out about BigHit's capitalist agenda. Jin is my favourite member and I can't believe his recent merchandise, a pair of pyjamas was sold for US$100 excluding shipping!
Bts really does need more rest I love them so much but they can't even spend time with there family like they want or take vacations by themselves or family because there always needed.great video!
True! Thanks for watching💕
They look so done these days !!! Honestly they are only dragging themselves for winning Grammy as they are making more english songs which can become hit in America !
Not gonna lie... I really thought dynamite was to cheer us up ONLY. Kinda heart broken now but glad my eyes are open still a great song🙂💔💔💔💣💥
Also I subscribed
Same😭😭I was so glad when I heard it was for us now I feel so decived🤧
@@kimchikimp7954 thank you so much
The BIGGEST offenders for BTS's "Dynamite" are how the song is marketed and the (barely enough) transparency. It's not that good songs can't be profitable, just be more TRANSPARENT in your marketing! (Looking at you, Big Hit.)
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I agree with most of this. I also feel guilty when watching them cry, watching them struggle. It hurts when I see them in tears or when I see them in pain. One of the hardest moments was that 2018 MAMA award ceremony when J-Hope took the mic first. He got through like... 1 paragraph and started crying. The genuine PAIN on his face had me in tears. Watching their shoulders SHAKE with emotion. It's so painful to watch. Although I think, the off stage thing, as uncomfortable as I find it, I think if BTS really wanted them to stop filming, they would have asked. They would have twisted away and hid their faces. They didn't. To me, I think this shows that they trust their company not to take things too far. BigHit censors their faces sometimes (Jin on the roller coaster...). I do absolutely hate these scenes. They make me cry.
Also, this isn't exactly BTS-relevant, but when Jonghyun from SHINee passed away and the photographers were filming idol reactions? BTS was also there. Why do people think that's necessary? It's clear these moments are private and should be private. If someone I loved passed away, I would not want a camera shoved in my face. Wouldn't want a money thirsty person to film my reaction, probably excited as I'm crying because they're going to earn money off my tears. That's creepy. That's something idols don't deserve. But I think sometimes BTS almost... I mean I can't say for certain, but I think they want us to know these things sometimes. Want us to know it's okay, not to be okay. BTS is all about authenticity as you've said. Remember the way V announced his grandma's passing to ARMY?
Also, about the Vlive thing, I... agree and disagree. I don't know whether it IS or ISN'T their ideas, because actually I can see Jimin just on a whim wanting to make food and asking the staff how to make it. In Vlives, I think the staff are there to watch and help them out, more than control them. They don't seem to be controlled. They don't look... too tense... if you know what I'm saying? And like, they still do those Vlives where they talk about nothing. Admittedly, their mostly birthday Vlives, but a while ago, before Jungkook and RM's birthday's, I remember watching Jimin just chatting in a Vlive. But the whole thing about TxT, I agree with. It makes me sad too. I think BigHit is really pushing the 'cute' image. Like their idols are always portrayed as cute nowadays. Oh do a cute pose here, or, show us your cutest pose, even like, how would you say/do this aegyo. *sigh...
I also completely agree with the remixes. Have you heard the remixes of butter? That weird auto tune thing they put on their voices ew. Also dynamite itself I just... I can't. I can understand the meaning and stuff of the song. I understand it's supposed to "cheer us up". But like. They didn't write that song. They had nothing to do with the song. Not even Namjoon who is often credited in BTS songs had input on that song. I don't HEAR any meaning behind the song. Have you read the lyrics??? I find 'Life Goes On' from the BE album to be more soothing, honestly. Also, Dynamite itself was just a massive... okay don't come at me, but that song was a literal joke. I don't know if BTS likes that song, and I really hope they do because oh lord. The amount of times they had to perform that ONE song in America was insane. Literally all the big interviewers and stuff were getting them on the show to sing that ONE song (most except like... Jimmy Fallon and... James Corden...). They rarely performed other songs. ESPECIALLY their Korean songs. That's what made me mad. Dynamite brought in so much profit, but for what? The songs not even that good. Sure, it's catchy. But the lyricism cannot compare to all those other BTS songs. Fake Love? Spring Day? To name the more popular ones because my favourite songs with the prettiest lyrics don't get very much hype.
Not gonna lie, I agree that the gift for fan things is really a push, although it's obvious that this is what BTS themselves want (the concert), the wording seems a little strange... we're not a pot plant you need to 'nurture'. However, I think that most the things that BTS and BigHit do, is indeed for ARMY and to please us. That being said, although it is to please us, it's more for the money and they're using ARMY as an excuse. I still believe that BigHit is a good company. Not in the way they treat fans, but in the way they treat BTS.
"inhaling oxygen by bts" I'm sorry but why did I laugh? IT'S NOT FUNNY DON'T LAUGH WHY AM I LAUGHING >.
we can laugh and cry together >.
@@eshantiyt hey I just wanted to tell you that I found your channel while I was watching Angelina's video and I was actually intrigued because this video caught my attention, so I came over here and I'm totally smitten by you because ahem Indian kpop fan who makes kpop content? 🥺 Yes yes you just got a new subscriber 🥺
Aww I am always so happy to meet fellow desi kpop stan! Also, thank you🥺
@@eshantiyt tehe you're welcome ^_^
They are selling be water though now.
Girl preach.Idk why more armys don't talk about it.It always rubbed in the wrong way at how much of their life is being shared with us.Not only bangtan tv,there's run bts,vlive,weverse.So much content.It's entertaining but we don't need so many.Basically there's always a camera at their faces.Being such big stats,Idk why do they need to work so hard.Bh really be milking the shit outta them.It always irked me at how many armies think bh is the best company ever.I don't trust a single company in kpop industry.
If only i had seen this video before I bought more merch including that towel loll...I enjoyed your video💜💜💜
haha, it's totally fine to spend your money the way you want to! thanks for watching
first again ❤️
and tbh eshanti i agree with everything you said, people are stanning the company instead of the idols and it genuinely surprises me when some people defend the company, like GO AND DEFEND YOUR ARTISTS NOT THE COMPANY and some people try to say that "how can you say this bighit is the best company ever, they provide content for their idols, they pay them well and they protect their artists from sasaengs" and I'm like yeah it's their responsibility as a company but what about their artist's mental and emotional health? their physical capabilities? and tbh some series don't even seen genuine anymore, i mean yeah they enjoy and shit but nowadays it doesn't seem genuine like it used to be, back in the rookie days-
aw! thank you for watching💕
@@eshantiyt welcomeee
I agree! As much as I enjoy watching edited compilations of BTS, the shitload of content is getting out of hand. A more "extreme" example for the opposite end of the spectrum is BLACKPINK. Despite not releasing as much content as BTS, they're not overworked at least (though some aspects should be criticized). I get that K-pop is more than just the music, but I feel like fans are partly at fault for demanding way too much. As a critical fan myself, we really need to draw the line on the fandom aspect.
(Don't mean to pit BLACKPINK and BTS against each other. I mentioned them because I love both groups.)
That's something that's always fascinated me! YG and BigHit are both on the extreme opposites of the spectrum. Strategy of Yg is to deprive fans of content while BigHit's strategy is to overwhelm fans with content to develop more of a parasocial relationship
@@eshantiyt Could you do a video analysis on that? It’s much to be talked about since BLACKPINK and BTS are currently the biggest K-pop acts outside of Asia.
wow when reality hits u hard thnx for telling me this keep doing wat u are doing
lub u lub bts and bp
ps i thought yg was shit and bighit was gold thnx for breaking my delulu
oh and one more thing i couldnt buy any merch cause im broke and the price is skyhigh
you are so sweet haha don't feel bad cause of merch, you aren't missing out on much!
@@eshantiyt ok now dont do that all my frnds say that to me only when i start earning can i buy merch hehe tho it is sweet of u to reply to ur fans
@@anaghaviju9524 we are friends now as well
@@eshantiyt yay i got a good frnd hehe
I did think that BTS was being milked out too much but your video was coherent. I mean they are popular now it's okay to capitalise that but they're compromising on values eg. the bang bang con narrative that you mentioned.
This was a well made video 👍
thank you!
Finally, someone said it!
thank you
suddenly I want this video framed. This is completely true, when I was still an army and saw that they released a burn the stage documentary where they documented everything that happens off stage. From the preparations and everything which is kinda nice to see how they work and how much effort they put into but somehow when they showed the members being tired, needing oxygen, or treating injuries is too intimate and too private?? including the fact that you are being filmed in such a vulnerable state. That's kind of disturbing to see. yes sure, the members maybe agreed or gave consent for them to get filmed but Idk but it seems like a marketing strat to me. When a company releases a video or a footage of an idol being tired, overworked, sleeping or any vulnerable state they are in, whether it has consent or not, it becomes a card for fans to use on awardings which causes a lot of fanwars. For example, "Group A deserved the award more than group B since they worked too hard". Aren't idols work hard? I mean it's in their system. It doesn't mean that Group A worked more, that they should deserve the award. Every idol deserve an award because they work so hard so fans should stop using the 'they worked too hard, they deserve more' card just to invalidate the other kgroups. Also with the vlives being sometimes scripted is true. I've seen a lot of vlives where they have staff behind the camera but honestly it's not bad because if it was me I will be panicking in front of a camera with millions of viewers esp if I'm alone. Having a staff monitoring you helps esp if you needed something right away on cam.
I will never be a company stan, I only stan talent ;)
Anyways, a very nice video! @enshanti
“Bedroom remix? Seriously? What are we supposed to do? Make babies?” 😂 Epic line.
Thank you for this amazing video. I am a big fan of BTS, but lately, everything they do seems to be orchestrated by the company to generate money and more money only. Of course, BH is an entertainment business whose sole aim to make profit, but it should not have to be at the expense of the members’ emotional health. I love BTS, but lately, I am trying to wrap my head around the overtly capitalist aspects of their content production. And I am trying to reconcile my love for bts with my personal views about the industrialised aspect of their content.✌️🏽
This is why I don't Stan companies, but the groups
preach
Why did I find this now?
Thank you, sis u opened my opened my eyes 💜
Aw thank you for appreciating💜
this gave me sm more perspectives!! I've felt off about bighit's capitalism for a while now, definitly since I used to know bts as a group with strong anticapitalist messages like 'no more dream', and their comany totally just threw that away and their morals, it's so sad to see all of this tbh.
The dislikes are from people who had there phone turned upside down👀
well that explains it lol jokes aside, thank you for watching💕
lol or maybe people who genuinely disagree with eshanti and are ready to present valid reasons for it. Don't say things like that. Everyone has the choice of disagreeing and the dislike button is for that 💀
well i agree with some and disagree with some. but like the merch of the dynamite success party was just so obvious. t-shirts and the design was just so *l a m e* yes i said it it was *l a m e* . also the recnt water bottles ? what's up with that. the new bighit marketing team is kinda lame to promote such stuff. the marketing during the bwl era was top tier. i defnitely am not a fan of the dynamite merch or the water bottles.
I agree!
I am glad you made a video speaking about the capitalism of BTS by BH. I could sense that will happen as they gained momentum in the US and other countries. There are stores selling merchandise with bts on them and BT21. There is a store called hottopic that is selling merchandise with tinytan on them. I guess BH partnered with Hottopic in order for them to sell tinytan.
I don't like seeing how a member will be so extremely exhausted behind the stage that makes me feel that I shouldn't cheer as much for them by knowing that they become exhausted to the point of needing that oxygen canister and collapsing. I don't want to get the feeling I become desensitized by seeing that happen to them. I love to see them perform their music but performing to when they exert themselves is a downer ☹
okay. tbh, we all have an opinion so i respect your opinion. i'll just speak my opinion here. i'm a moarmy. a proud army that loves bts not for their popularity but for their personalities and talents. a proud moa who loves all 5 members of txt not for their visuals nor their company. in fact, if they weren't apart of big hit, i would still stan them 100%. the movie? yes, it may seem offensive to some people when they show the injuries and incidents that happen but you know what? it's a documentary movie. showing the sides of bts that big hit and bts themselves never show. showing that there are always struggles for success. bts is what they are today because of their mistakes. the part where you say 'as a fan, seeing my idol in this condition is absolutely horrifying.' that is very true but you're being very direct to barely a few armys who say that. most armys don't try to say 'omg. they are working so hard for us.' no. we always put their health first. i bet you that if you see the comments, they say 'are they okay?' or 'give bts a break. they need it.' again, this is my opinion.
I respect your opinion, in that segment I was only addressing the armies who romanticise member's pain. I get that everyone has their own struggles but working someone to the point of exhaustion doesn't sit right with me imo
@@eshantiyt very true. thank you for understanding.
Its partially because of big hit's promotional tactics that BTS has become so famous in the west with their fans growing exponentially. So BTS is not entirely a victim in this whole ordeal either. They have also profited hugely off of this. Especially now, when they are being recognised as equals by the western artists (which is a great thing). So the narrative that big hit has squeezed them for their own greed is only partially true, imo. They both have helped each other succeed, they both worked to make fans happy and they both have been capitalists. And with every concert ticket price, ever merch, every brand collab i remebered how yoongi hated capitalism. It seems, you only hate capitalism when you're poor.
And yes i am an army. But i can have my opinions whether someone agrees or not.
And i loved the video. You summed up everything perfectly.💗
I couldn't agree MORE!! Ofc bts deserves all of this fame and promotion but fr bighit is really just milking off their fame, and it's sad unfortunate that fans don't see it because they just think of it as just normal daily content but I got to say it "BTS ARE OVERWORKED!" like there is no disagreement to that. When they finally got a proper break was after Boy with Luv fans were complaining about where was the content, comebacks, promotions, vlives etc. Not knowing that their last break before that WAS 3-4 YEARS AGO! Imagine being overworked for 3-4 years and your fans complaining about it? Also, I'm still waiting for bighit to address the oversexualizing/infant sizing of the members to themselves as well as other idols, the members even said that they weren't comfortable with it and fans still manage to do it. That's literally one of my pet peeves of this fandom like when a member gets hurt they just reply with "awww poor baby hope you get better soon sweetie" like stop they are literally ADULTS, ALMOST TO THEIR 30s, this is just an overall problem in kpop fandoms but it's mostly being used in the army fandom. BigHit needs to do something about this for real, and actually let bts have proper care.
Quality content like this have less views SERIOUSLY
ok wow someone finally put into words what I've been subconsciously thinking for a while.
1) Yes, it's absolutely disgusting to shove a camera in the member's face when they literally have 2 minutes to inhale some supplemental oxygen and get back on stage. I get it they need to capture everything and other artists do doc shows like this too but that doesn't make it any better.
2) But regarding how busy BTS is, it's a little grey area for me bc yes ofc they were busy (especially 2017-2019) but with their new contract I think it will be different. They probably prepare everything years in advance and probably already have plans for BTS when different members enlist for military service. They also seem to like what they are doing and seem to have a good relationship with BSH.
3)Regarding their 'authenticity' yea they probably didn't wake up one day and were like 'let's paint army bombs' but I mean I still think they are open to say what they want. Due to their level of fame, they just need staff to do damage control if necessary asap. Same with TXT they have the manpower to have staff to be with TXT. It sucks that they have to play an 'image' but most idol groups do in the beginning.
4) Dynamite isn't a song I like but I'm happy it's doing well on the charts maybe since I've been an army for a while (stanned them since Run era anyone else?) I've seen the way they changed their music to be marketable. It's what makes them money, catering to what their general target audience with like. But like I think it's fine because I respect their message and I listen to the songs I like from them. I don't feel obligated to like everything they put out (trust me I don't nor do I have the time to lol)
3)Bighit as a company motives are no different from other companies, I think it is weird that they are put on a pedestal compared to other companies. BSH is a billionaire now he is way beyond thinking about these groups, it's all about what will get him the money to prove to the world how successful he can make his company.
4)For example what they did with Iland, was basically made to help with their IPO. I didn't like ILAND I just felt like everything was so staged (the competition and crying) and like none of the performances were even live. Did I ever hear their live vocals? Also, they are debuting this year with 04' and 05' liners like really young (Niki is literally still going to be 14 when they debut). It has barely been two years since TXT debut and Ik they are managed through another company but still.
But at the end of the day do I unstan Bighit? Idk. Bighit is doing what they need to do to be competitive in their market just like everyone else. Name one 'good company that treated their idols fairly and not like cash cows' I'll wait
I feel you totally! What Big Hit are doing is clearly working out for them but through this video my intention was just to portray that no one is above criticism. Of course, all entertainment companies are the same but the way people defend bighit, it seems like they genuinely think that bighit is the greatest company on the planet earth, saying things like "we stan the right company" Also same I've been a BTS fan since 2015.I wanted to include the I-land point in my video as well but chickened out in the last moment lol
@@eshantiyt Maybe you can do a separate video on “I-LAND?”
Yeah I am waiting for them to debut first!
I have watched all I-land episodes and there seemed to have not been much vocal practicing and hearing singing just dancing, practice dancing, and just dance focus.
Your last question...YG
I agree with you and Bighit should just make a go fund me if they want money that bad
Because some of the merch isn't even that good of quality 😑✋
Ps.could you make a video about kpop songs of 2020 you didn't and did like the most😊
For sure! I have been thinking of making a video like that
I'm late but 2:05 bts said they WANTED to show that stuff. They wanted to show what it was really like
Imagine, 1 song but too many various VC. They keep 7 of them work, work and work. The company keep makes them work and only give them couple days of day off for a year.
Honestly, i do not watch all of them, just the original official MV.
You know something that too much can make you fed-up.
Just let them enjoy the healing moment, give us Army time too to miss them.
I wish a good work environment and better management at Hybe.
Same I don't even have the time to watch all the videos they do.When I begging to join them I was thinking that everything they do is for ARMY,But my smart ass
starting make question about if they were genuine or not cuz I didn't find it normal?!? that 7 men act always like everything is pink and flower.Whateva I always supporting them
cuz I like their music but I don't feel "connected" with them from the point to buy their merchandise(actin like I have the money💀).
When it comes to "company stans", I want to bang my head against the wall every time they put certain K-pop companies on a pedestal (the current/most notorious cases being Big Hit and JYP). I feel like these fans have really turned a blind eye to those companies' injustices and the fact that they're still parts of a problematic industry.
This is why I stan the artists, not the companies that represent them. As long as they’re happy, I wouldn’t mind if my favourite artists switched companies.
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Preach!
I totally agree with your opinion. My ex colleague stans SM and I cannot understand the reasons for stanning a company that didn't take care of their artists' mental health.
My favourite Kpop group didn't renew contract so they left their company BUT did not disband. I cannot wait for their comeback 💚🐣
I think having staff on Vlive is a normal thing, but the staff should be there to handle the cameras and lighting etc. not micro manage their behaviour or actions like you said
Yes, I loooooved BTS' older content - like even tho I'm not an Army I can see how authentic they were in the past and they were actually really funny.
Compared to TXT rn, I still remember that supposedly "funny" segment when one of the members chased the other down with an umbrella that is just so conveniently placed beside him... ONLY 1 umbrella, placed there, near the window, beside the member who gets teased "randomly".... yeah it was staged for sure :((
Personally rn, I think the group with the funniest and most authentic Vlive content is Treasure and Seventeen. Oh and maybe Loona too HAHA.
I do agree about treasure..
Omg ur accent is soooo cute
Aww thank you so much💕🥺
About being recorded backstage exhausted, its something that almost all companies do to show thar our artists work very hard and stuff. Yes what u said was right, but it's not just hybe .💜
Tell me one idol group showing so much of their backstage.😇
Bro, if any company other than Big Hit mainly the Big3, show their artists suffering from exhaustion or falling like that and fainting, later the company will start getting hate for mistreatment of their artists. Double standards 👏.
If SM or YG does what Big Hit does of taking video of their artists fainting and suffocating, SM and YG will be in huge trouble.
The most notable one was BTS.
@@trollerexo5648 I don't know how much is so much, but almost all of them like the big ones also like Blackpink, Twice etc. do. Also them being exhausted doesn't always have to be that they r being overworked, it's their profession, they work hard by their own as well. Ofcourse overworking is another problem tho.
PERIOD
Thank you💜
Agree 100%
thank you!
GURL U SPILL FACTS
i agree with the stanning bighit part, but i totally disagree with you on bighit artists not getting to show their real selves. like c'mon, do you think idols can ever be their true selves when the general public is constantly scrutinizing every action of theirs? also, why are you making it sound as if bts are the most authentic artists out there who only do the things they like? yeah they are given creative freedom,but just as any other idol,there is a certain image they ought to maintain. they too are told how to act in many situations and it shows. Moreover,Jikook doing that gimbap making live, how do you know they were forced to do it and were being monitored by staff in fear of what they might blurt out? that is a pretty dubious assumption. Its quarantine, armys are craving for bts content and there is a need to keep bts buzz going . jikook themselves might have came up with that or maybe they just agreed to the company's suggestion. the staff might have very well been there for some sort of help and not to "control" them. same goes for txt, like cmon how can you say the staffs r at the back asking them not to act like their true selves? even if the staffs werent there, its not like txt would just pour their hearts out. i know the staff might be there to make sure they dont say anything that might spark a controversy, but that is only cos of how quick kpop stans r to jump on the cancel train. Kpop idols arent given as much freedom as the western idols, thats a fact. but that isnt just limited to bighit. thats how it is for every entertainment industry out there. Ofc idols like jae from day6 receives a lotta freedom, but its only him in that band that ha sthe privilege. Coming back to bighit, idk about txt since they r still rookies and might be being controlled , but bts..i dont think so. I really dont think the staff being present during some of their lives is enough proof to deduce that theory. so yea...
besides, we cant really just say that these idols enjoy everything they do, like the games they play,etc. its all a scheme to feed fans' need to consume their faves' content. And , i dont think its okay to just corner bighit when they are in reality better than manyy entertainment companies out there in many aspects. Lol but yea, that doesnt call for stanning bighit, which is essentially, just an other ent. company .
Anyways, all that aside, this was a pretty realistic video .
@@pigeonheadspace Let’s not forget that K-pop idols are trained to be entertainers. Who trains the idols? The companies they’re signed to. Even if a company is better in certain aspects, it’s still a business at the end of the day.
@@PinkNintendoDuo87 exacly..i totally agree to tht. But thats how it is. Thats how it is for every company . So thats why i mentioned we should compare the other aspects.
exactly and not to mention the artists have a GREAT relationship with staffs and are very comfortable to be on camera because they had training to not be nervous/awkward on lives. That's an important part of kpop
I think there is a reason why BTS were asked to do lives with them making bracelets or dalgona coffee what not. There is a pandemic and they didn't have a choice but to make more content for their fans. Constant content and communication is needed especially with them having fans. Due to the nature of the Vlives, obviously there will be staff behind the scenes.
Those lives were giving BTS and Bighit time to plan better content during this trying time. They planned a world tour for God's sake, of course the company would have freaked out because of what happened. If you think about it, after those lives, a lot of quality content were given to their fans such as online concerts, In the Soop, Run episodes and genuine livestreams.
I would have to agree tho, I am not a fan of those lives.
Just my two cents with what you have observed
Makes sense
@@eshantiyt Omg you replied! I think the one thing that I like about Bighit is that they let BTS write their songs.
BTW love your videos
@@itsgonnarain135 thank you so much for watching my videos, means a lot
I just think it’s funny though to make them do such activities all the time. They are grown men, I’m sure they don’t want to spend their off-days making bracelets, being filmed like they are children. They should be allowed to enjoy their time off and hangout with their family and friends, do adult things, rather than have to sit down and cater to fans 24/7, even on their days off from performing.
@@zuko_24568 would you prefer if they did no lives at all and didn’t interact with their fans? They might be given suggestions about it but if they didn’t want to do that, I’m sure they could’ve just done an ordinary vlive. Hoseok literally gave the bracelets he made to the members and they all looked happy with them. Of course they’re going to do things that cater for us, that’s literally what their job is. I think a lot of you forget that they love what they do.
Can you pls tell me the intro song?😅 I feel like I know the song bit I can't remember.
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Ok but bts never said that they hate thier company so why would we care !? Lol such an iralavent thing to talk about tbh
As a consumer, I can complain about a company's capitalism...How does it relate to BTS?
@@eshantiyt company's are the one who treat thier artists so obv if artist are happy than why tf complain?! Lol
because they are selling their products to us.. and putting BTS's face on their products. If they sell merch with bad quality or low quality as a consumer you should give them your honest feedback because it can reflect badly on the artists they are using. If you pay for anything, you spend your money it is within your right to complain. I still don't get how this relates to BTS. You can love your artists and call out their company if they make bad decisions. That's the right thing to do.
Whether or not you stan the companies, please be a critical consumer!
@@eshantiyt very well said. I notice that they made unfair profits and monopoly against the fans. We feel obligated sometimes because we feel the unconditional love bts gave to us but i find it funny they're selling tiny tan chopsticks and utensils, even drinking bottle and stickers with worth $20 LOL. Bts didn't even get to $30 million since how bighit milking them too much. Notice how some company give some money to their artist ex Gd we all know that Gd does had names under Komca, chanel ambassador and a huge succesor but Bts is still more popular than Gd yet didn't get a half of Gd getting.
May I know how much you paid for the ticket?
This whole video makes no sense
Yes bighit is not perefect
but their perfect than other companies
bts overwork themselves not bighit for us armies
You can love/support your favourite artists, but not the companies they work for.
@@PinkNintendoDuo87 companies don't only consist of a few people dictating idols what to do or bussiness people in suits lmao. Companies consist of much much more than that. You can always be a company stan. There's a reason why YG stans, SM stans, JYP stans exist.
As a YG stan, I love their dancers (YGX), models, building (lol just check it out. who wouldn't?), mascot Krunk, their extremely famous, cafeteria, idols, savage editors, "Baymax" managers, "babysitter" staffs, beautiful practice rooms, top-class equipment, fashion brand, etc etc.
Legit every single thing in YG has its own separate fandom. And that's a part of beauty of being a YG stan.
SM and JYP stans would say the same things lol.
@@skyward7903 Still, I’m always going to be a critical consumer.
@@PinkNintendoDuo87 and that's completely okay and I respect your opinions.
@@skyward7903 same, I wouldn't call myself i stan of a company, but a few years back I would call myself a YG stan because I stanned almost every artist from YGE, as well as the same stuff you mentioned in your comment. I just disagree with their management but I like everything else.
I'm late but 2:05 bts said they WANTED to show that stuff. They wanted to show what it was really like