You know the rules. If a Doom fist, Zenyatta or Ball are having fun, the enemy must go sombra and hard focus them. This is how balance works in overwatch
Sombra who is super simple to play and get value against these heros. You don't even need to play her the way she is intended in order to stomp the enemy. Meanwhile the characters she counters require a ton of skill to utilize properly. But the enemy Sombra will just tell you to "cry more"
@@charleshaines9715 the way you wrote your comment seems to suggest that you complain in match chat about Sombra and then are surprised when an opponent doesn't agree with you and feel sorry for doing what they need to do in order to win. don't get me wrong, Sombra can be annoying and she will never be balanced until they put her invis on a timer (which would increase the skill floor and add risk to setting up plays in the enemy backline). but I don't know if match chat is the place to air your grievances. you're not going to get much sympathy from your opponents
you know, I enjoy playing with a good wrecking ball. I like how independent ball is and how i can focus on supporting them with utility or following up on their dives with damage instead of needing to be constantly stressed about their hp. granted, i love doing what i can to keep my teammates alive, i find that very gratifying, but it's always fun to have a team comp where everyone starts out a little more self reliant for their hp needs, it mixes things up and lets me work on a non-healing-heavy play style also, I'm deeply fond of wrecking balls who will park themselves right in front of their supports between fights to give them ult charge and then jump a few times, say hello, and go back to doing ball things lol it's very charming
Right now Im currently learning wrecking ball and im usually a support main and god damn it every time they roll in front of me and jump a lil to get heals I nearly die from how cute they are AND I WANNA BE THAT CUTE DAMNIT!!
@@kazuchad2948 i mean, i main sombra and have been playing ball and learning him the past week, you can play against a decent sombra. you just gotta play smart, predict where the sombra is, play around that or wait for her to hack and then make your move. Play around cover to prevent hack and try to boop into her if she is going for one on you to cancel it and put it on cooldown.
I don't know how you have a mental of steel but your humor is so damn hilarious. You're such a sweet and good person Emongg please never forget that and I hope our community protects such a sweet person 🥺🥺🥺💚 Also your hair is fabulous 💅
Emongg's patience is superhuman man, unironically look up to him for that and try to follow his example, but no-one can keep the good vibes going as good as Emongg.
Just an FYI, the wall jump tech is a lot less useful to learn now because you can just use grapple/retract and the grapple will only be on a 1-second cooldown.
its still useful, especially for speed, you can wall climb higher spots with wall jump much faster than the grapple, its also more surprising, does damage when you land and doesnt have the chance to accidentally mess up and leave you with a longer grapple cooldown.
Disagreed, there are still many cases where you'd want to slam while your grapple is on cd But yeah it's not quite as essential, even if I think any ballers should know it
I myself just started playing ball, the last two weeks have been really fun, up until the whole qp lobbing counter picks you and ruins your game because you're doing well on a character you're learning 🤣
I get it when I'm not even doing well, just merely existing as Ball in a QP game means the enemy team automatically swap to Hog, Sombra, Cass, Brig and Ana
I didn’t pick up OW2 until late season 9. Ball is my hero with the most hours logged cuz he’s so fun to play once you get him down. Playing with a good team helps too
Mr Emongg, sir, you are wonderful for giving us this content and I commend you for playing more of our beloved hamster. May I offer one piece of advice? Please go for healthpacks more. You are a fantastic player and way better than I can hope to be. Please do not take offense, as I truly hope you help propel Ball into being much more accepted by the community at large. Thank you again for all that you do for us.
yeah, i am currently 50h ball only, and i am allready thinking of quiting, not becase of counters, but because i don't improve so, maybe 1 less player soon xD
pretty dramatic take. the only real problem is the lack of a timer on invis. if the devs ever implement that again, Sombra will be in a much better place because she will require a lot more skill and setting up plays will be riskier. then if a Sombra pops off, hey, good for them, they managed their resources well. but as it is, the skill floor is just way too low.
@@sethescope she just makes the game unfun for everyone else by not allowing you to play the game (especially on ball and Doom). Imagine if they added a character to the game that could jam people's weapons (including Rein and Brig) so you can only use abilities during that time, now imagine they can do that on a short cooldown and they can use it whenever they want and their ultimate does the same thing but for 3 seconds and cancels any ults like Hog or S76.
not in my experience. good ball players get a lot of value just from disrupting and distracting the enemy team. even if your team doesn't follow up in an ideal way, good balls are able to prevent the enemy team from doing whatever they want. if the enemy supports are constantly having to fend off a ball, that means the rest of the team isn't getting supported much, which makes it easier for the frontline. ball isn't weak. he's just a different kind of tank, and you have to know how to adjust based on how deep your team is willing to go with you and how much follow up your team is able to do. and the beautiful thing about overwatch is every hero is situational. sometimes ball won't be the play. that doesn't mean ball is weak. it just means you're not able to synergize with your team or the other team is doing a great job preventing you from doing ball stuff. tldr ball isn't weak. good ball players know how to dictate the flow of fights and how to adapt to their teams so they set their teams up for success. they don't limit themselves to one play style and expect their team to play "correctly"
@@sethescope sure that's why one of the best Ball players in the world, Chazm, says ball is weak. Oh and Yeatle. And others. Thanks for trying to teach a course on WB in a comments section to a STRANGER who eats, sleeps and mains WB.
Check off for ideal “fun” ball gameplay: Can u pop shots TTK in 2 secs? Mercy Ress, Suzu, or other “immortality” on Cool Down? Sombra only peeks u on pile drive? GG u must be in junkyard docks ez win. 😂
not sure if you're kidding, but in case you're not, it's streamer mode! you can toggle an option that will hide your real username from everyone and will instead show a fake one. this means streamers can play in games without being unfairly targeted or trolled.
@@Ravenlilyloki it's also a really recent change! I can't remember exactly when it was implemented but it has been within the last couple of weeks. it's hard to keep up with everything that changes in the game haha glad I could help!
Yooooo your actually not that bad at ball maybe in the top 500 landscape you are in comparison but you actually have a good grasp on what you should be doing!! One tip I can give you is to minefield before you slam so you can let the mines actually set up and activate before you put them in the air to inevitably fall to their deaths
Nice video ! Nice game play ! But why all steamers have to zoom on their faces on editing. It's just kind of fame and really was useless here because there was no specific expression on your face to see... We just loose gameplay to watch in these moments
You know the rules. If a Doom fist, Zenyatta or Ball are having fun, the enemy must go sombra and hard focus them. This is how balance works in overwatch
No honor among thieves and us Sombra Mains!~
@@robikkupegasus7039Aren't we the same thing? >:D
Sombra who is super simple to play and get value against these heros. You don't even need to play her the way she is intended in order to stomp the enemy. Meanwhile the characters she counters require a ton of skill to utilize properly. But the enemy Sombra will just tell you to "cry more"
As a zen main, it makes my blood warm to know I forced someone to counterswap
@@charleshaines9715 the way you wrote your comment seems to suggest that you complain in match chat about Sombra and then are surprised when an opponent doesn't agree with you and feel sorry for doing what they need to do in order to win. don't get me wrong, Sombra can be annoying and she will never be balanced until they put her invis on a timer (which would increase the skill floor and add risk to setting up plays in the enemy backline). but I don't know if match chat is the place to air your grievances. you're not going to get much sympathy from your opponents
you know, I enjoy playing with a good wrecking ball. I like how independent ball is and how i can focus on supporting them with utility or following up on their dives with damage instead of needing to be constantly stressed about their hp. granted, i love doing what i can to keep my teammates alive, i find that very gratifying, but it's always fun to have a team comp where everyone starts out a little more self reliant for their hp needs, it mixes things up and lets me work on a non-healing-heavy play style
also, I'm deeply fond of wrecking balls who will park themselves right in front of their supports between fights to give them ult charge and then jump a few times, say hello, and go back to doing ball things lol it's very charming
😏 we know
@@akcollins5154😉😉😉
Right now Im currently learning wrecking ball and im usually a support main and god damn it every time they roll in front of me and jump a lil to get heals I nearly die from how cute they are AND I WANNA BE THAT CUTE DAMNIT!!
It’s really nice of you to try and learn how to play against Sombra.
I just had a crazy black pill experience its genuinely impossible to play against a decent Sombre. These buffs did nothing.
@@kazuchad2948 i mean, i main sombra and have been playing ball and learning him the past week, you can play against a decent sombra. you just gotta play smart, predict where the sombra is, play around that or wait for her to hack and then make your move. Play around cover to prevent hack and try to boop into her if she is going for one on you to cancel it and put it on cooldown.
Been trying to learn ball and this is so true. I just switch to Winston and fuck everybody up
It's said he's still playing ball to this day...
I don't know how you have a mental of steel but your humor is so damn hilarious. You're such a sweet and good person Emongg please never forget that and I hope our community protects such a sweet person 🥺🥺🥺💚
Also your hair is fabulous 💅
Genuinely, I love this man. It’s always a good day when emongg uploads
Emongg's patience is superhuman man, unironically look up to him for that and try to follow his example, but no-one can keep the good vibes going as good as Emongg.
WB players sweating to get value meanwhile sombra just standing invis with her hand out and carrying games
I’ve put them on they ass 2 they not special unless you’re talking about being on the spectrum
Just an FYI, the wall jump tech is a lot less useful to learn now because you can just use grapple/retract and the grapple will only be on a 1-second cooldown.
its still useful, especially for speed, you can wall climb higher spots with wall jump much faster than the grapple, its also more surprising, does damage when you land and doesnt have the chance to accidentally mess up and leave you with a longer grapple cooldown.
Disagreed, there are still many cases where you'd want to slam while your grapple is on cd
But yeah it's not quite as essential, even if I think any ballers should know it
@@hjalmarselberg5653 But not worth learning for most normal people.
I myself just started playing ball, the last two weeks have been really fun, up until the whole qp lobbing counter picks you and ruins your game because you're doing well on a character you're learning 🤣
I get it when I'm not even doing well, just merely existing as Ball in a QP game means the enemy team automatically swap to Hog, Sombra, Cass, Brig and Ana
As a ball player, the enemy swaps sombra on the first team fight at least 80% of the time.
It happens. Just have fun.
Straight up 😂 I be sitting here like did I play bad or did everyone just pick someone to counter me
Just keep balling and learning to play through counter picks ❤
5:00 lmao this is me when i play. "I am going to do this, i know its a bad idea.... annnnnd..... that went so much worse then i expected lol" 😂
emongg teasing somnus gives me life. peak sibling energy.
emongg knows how to play with balls
Wrecking Ball's difficult to get the hang of, but feels really good when you manage to play him well
As a Hampter main, I love to see this.
0:31
Persona 3 jumpscare
The persona music is doing it for me. 11/10.
I didn’t pick up OW2 until late season 9. Ball is my hero with the most hours logged cuz he’s so fun to play once you get him down. Playing with a good team helps too
Mr Emongg, sir, you are wonderful for giving us this content and I commend you for playing more of our beloved hamster. May I offer one piece of advice? Please go for healthpacks more. You are a fantastic player and way better than I can hope to be. Please do not take offense, as I truly hope you help propel Ball into being much more accepted by the community at large.
Thank you again for all that you do for us.
This is such a wholesome message 🥺
Love the editing on this video! Amazing music choices!
I’ve been a Ball main and I’m still not great. But, I can promise the main role of ball is to be as obnoxious as possible while not dying.
i just love your sense of humour
Super fun video, I’m new to your content and I love it.
He's no Chazm but golly gee whiz he's trying.
They should really highlight when it's a back fill. I always sit there for a bit.
19:30 You dont need to angle it, i go straight on sometimes.
Good thing you did this before the dps buff
yeah, i am currently 50h ball only, and i am allready thinking of quiting, not becase of counters, but because i don't improve so, maybe 1 less player soon xD
Sombra should just be banned in QP
and in ranked
and also in arcade
that would make her much healthier for the game.
pretty dramatic take. the only real problem is the lack of a timer on invis. if the devs ever implement that again, Sombra will be in a much better place because she will require a lot more skill and setting up plays will be riskier. then if a Sombra pops off, hey, good for them, they managed their resources well. but as it is, the skill floor is just way too low.
@@sethescope she just makes the game unfun for everyone else by not allowing you to play the game (especially on ball and Doom). Imagine if they added a character to the game that could jam people's weapons (including Rein and Brig) so you can only use abilities during that time, now imagine they can do that on a short cooldown and they can use it whenever they want and their ultimate does the same thing but for 3 seconds and cancels any ults like Hog or S76.
Is the krusher99 a connor eats pants reference?
What Chazm now do when you over shadow him as ball? its like: have you heard the amazing Ball? Chazm? nono Emongg! who is chazm?
Ah the patch where they put your grapple on a 4s cooldown whenever you piledriver 2nd point rialto
WB is still meh. It's super comp dependent and relies on dps following up with you. It doesn't matter how good you get at WB, he's just weak.
not in my experience. good ball players get a lot of value just from disrupting and distracting the enemy team. even if your team doesn't follow up in an ideal way, good balls are able to prevent the enemy team from doing whatever they want. if the enemy supports are constantly having to fend off a ball, that means the rest of the team isn't getting supported much, which makes it easier for the frontline.
ball isn't weak. he's just a different kind of tank, and you have to know how to adjust based on how deep your team is willing to go with you and how much follow up your team is able to do. and the beautiful thing about overwatch is every hero is situational. sometimes ball won't be the play. that doesn't mean ball is weak. it just means you're not able to synergize with your team or the other team is doing a great job preventing you from doing ball stuff.
tldr ball isn't weak. good ball players know how to dictate the flow of fights and how to adapt to their teams so they set their teams up for success. they don't limit themselves to one play style and expect their team to play "correctly"
@@sethescope sure that's why one of the best Ball players in the world, Chazm, says ball is weak. Oh and Yeatle. And others. Thanks for trying to teach a course on WB in a comments section to a STRANGER who eats, sleeps and mains WB.
@@charleshaines9715 lmao okay buddy
@@charleshaines9715 lmao okay buddy, you sound like you need a snack
@@sethescope you sound like you have nothing meaningful to say because you got owned, but yet you have to have the last word.
The grapple change is so huge but I agree that the shield thing isn't that useful
But it is very useful
Ill keep saying it. Please play a Brig that can blink! “Bracer” 😅
Check off for ideal “fun” ball gameplay:
Can u pop shots TTK in 2 secs?
Mercy Ress, Suzu, or other “immortality” on Cool Down?
Sombra only peeks u on pile drive?
GG u must be in junkyard docks ez win. 😂
I always watch these videos thrn play overwatch and then was to kms
Real
because you dont play enough to get good, get good first and then worry about having fun.
@@cagxplays9602sounds awful ngl
@@AssoBestaTyyp well if you dont have fun losing and you're playing a competitive game, that's kinda the only option.
Yesteryear!
what happened to rolling randy
How many accounts does this man have!? So many name changes lol
not sure if you're kidding, but in case you're not, it's streamer mode! you can toggle an option that will hide your real username from everyone and will instead show a fake one. this means streamers can play in games without being unfairly targeted or trolled.
@@sethescope Thank you I didnt know this at all actually. I dont watch a lot of streams on twitch or anything. Just vods on youtube
@@Ravenlilyloki it's also a really recent change! I can't remember exactly when it was implemented but it has been within the last couple of weeks. it's hard to keep up with everything that changes in the game haha glad I could help!
"I played DVA NONSTOP until i didnt suck"
*feeds like crazy for the entire game*
*video ends*
youre good because your aim carries over. which would make u good with any class more or less.
Alright SO!
Call him Miley cause hey came in like a
WRECKING BALL!
He is lucky playing with friends... Try solo playing ball, it is 1vs9...
OK, UM!
Yooooo your actually not that bad at ball maybe in the top 500 landscape you are in comparison but you actually have a good grasp on what you should be doing!! One tip I can give you is to minefield before you slam so you can let the mines actually set up and activate before you put them in the air to inevitably fall to their deaths
Nice video ! Nice game play ! But why all steamers have to zoom on their faces on editing. It's just kind of fame and really was useless here because there was no specific expression on your face to see... We just loose gameplay to watch in these moments
Ball is so bad now everyone counters him and Yeatle best wrecking ball said hes still trash.
uh no chasm is better ball sorry, chasm is the guy that consistently gets rank 1 or at least top 10 with ball, yeatle is not better than him.
first
First comment let’s gooooo🤟
you are actually first
second?
1:47
u so uncreative with hook
@ruclips.net/video/eid4Oatdl0M/видео.html Rein thinks he's so amazing