You have absolutely no idea how giddy I was seeing this on my feed and watching you have like, all the exact same thoughts I've been having. That comment about feeling cosmically noticed hit me like a freight train too LMAO It's always nervewracking putting out my thoughts on the story in FNaF so I'm super happy to know they were worthwhile to share and I'm super excited to see what you'll cook up with your own FNaF World theory!!!
ugh im so happy for you both hehe, its so cute. things like this are just one of the reasons i love this community so much. all your fnaf world ideas are so interesting oof, i think you anf Nervous are really onto something
I'm so glad the feeling is mutual 😂 I'm seriously so glad you decided to share your thoughts! I feel a renewed sense of excitement for that script that's been untouched for like a month.
Heyo! Glad you liked the podcast ep! Also yeah cutting people off is something I'm working on😅 the ADHD Anxiety combo makes me want to clarify/add too quickly and I end up cutting people off. I try not to though lol. As far as MXES being Cassie's dad, I still disagree with it. But I hope I didn't give the impression that I was saying it was wrong. I don't think it's "wrong" or impossible or anything, I just interpret things differently. Your theory on MXES is super valid, just not my current preference. I WILL SAY THOUGH, your clarification here does make a lot more sense to me. The idea of MXES's hands being similar to VR hands, and moving around in a similar way is compelling. When I watched the video/read your chats I was only thinking of "Well yeah HW2 hands look like that, thats what VR hands look like"
Yo for the record you are so seriously fine re: cutting people off It's so easy to do especially in online convos where there's this ever so slight delay between the two speakers. I hope I don't sound angry or anything in the video 😂 I was just feeling passionate and excited someone else saw what I saw. Your podcast is awesome and you always handle other people's perspectives with grace. I go out of my way to push the MXES theory, but not because I think you're a hater by any means. 😂 Thank you for taking the time to engage w/a new theorist like myself and for making a pod dedicated to fnaf. Excited for your 3rd channel to make its debut!⚡️⚡️
Another one of those previous pre-Michael technicians at CBEAR or SL in general. This explains CB's phrase "I recognize you" and the presence of memories of SL
An important detail I think is often overlooked is how Jeremy Fitzgerald is probably also a fake name. Even if the Bonnie Bully isn't Cassie's Dad, the Bonnie Bully is probably "Jeremy" because Mike's fake name in FNaF 2 is Fritz. Both of their fake names are the respective kids for their favorite animatronics in the missing children's incidents, implying they knew those kids, maybe because those kids knew the Crying Child. This doesn't necessarily mean they knew what kid got stuffed in each animatronic, or if they knew they got stuffed at all even though Mike probably figured it out. It seems like William purposely stuffed the kids in their favorite animatronics, especially based on Fritz, and this is further exemplified by the movie to me. It doesn't seem like they're wearing those clothes to show that they're the spirits possessing the animatronics to me. It seems like they were going to a party. It being his birthday could support why the fifth missing kid, the one possessing Golden Freddy, is vengeful./🩷
STOPPP i remember a while back i got the thought of MXES being our player in hw2. i started bothering my friend so much, i was like THE HANDS!! MXES HAS THE BLUE HUMANOID DIGITAL HANDS!!! AND ITS A BONNIE FACE LIKE THE BONNIE BULLY MASK, BUT HUMANOID BECAUSE ITS MADE FROM A HUMAN SOUL!!!! and ultimately, the idea that cassie sees MXES as a scary monster, but its really just her dad in a digital form trying to protect her from the real monster, just feels right to me. couple all of it with the fact that JTOP said the mxes machine was intentionally based off a design from the 1980s feels like a jab at cassies dad
love seeing fnafworld getting the attention it deserves regarding the lore--the idea of the kids/AIs having their own "world" thats accessible through code as an afterlife always meant so much to me. this is where theyre chilling when they get a moment of rest. and im so fascinated by this theory connecting it further to the series!! my autism is boiling
15:43 yeah, the adhd inability to sometimes stop talking/ accidentally interrupting someone is something I struggle with on a daily basis. I’m glad ooftroop was still able to get their thought process out too
Oh fs and it's always going to happen in these kinds of discussions because you don't want to lose your thought either. They both did well to make sure no one dominated conversation in this podcast. Rye is a good host in that way. They make sure it's still their podcast, but the guest episodes really do highlight what the guest is there to talk about.
When you mentioned Mrs Doubtfire I thought the line of thought was that Cassie's dad became Roxy and that's why she's protecting Cassie and tbh I like that theory and I'll accept it as truth from now on
I completely get how you feel with the theories you hesitate to cover. I had this idea about Lloyd being the mascot of Indigo Park until Rowley took over, but I started losing confidence in the theory after about a week of writing the script. Then, Backseat Streams did their playthrough, pointed out a bunch of stuff I missed on their first run through the chapter, and basically said the same thing I'd been writing for a week but better and more concisely. It really stings
Is there a possibility that... after the bite of CC, Mike probably disappeared for an unspecified amount of time? Considering the possibility of the gas and William torturing him and who knows what else. Could Jeremy originally have joined the FNAF organization to find out what happened with his friend? And then William (or someone) found out his connection to the bite, and started focusing on him?
To make sure I understand - Mike disappears due to William doing the nightmare experiments. His friend group wonders where he went, so Jeremy goes looking for him and that's what leads him to get involved in Fazbear Ent.? I could certainly see it!
HELP I'M JUST NOW REALIZING I SHOWED UP IN YOUR COMMENT RESPONSE VIDEO.... HAPPY TO KNOW MY COMMENT ABOUT HOW MXES TELEPORTS AROUND IS SUPPORTING YOUR THEORY!!!
Thank you so much for putting reference pics/vids in here for us!! I watched Ryetoast’s video and it was hard to follow what they were talking about, like with the white outlined door.
I like the theory that Jeremy survived the mask getting cut from his face. Also it's interesting that the mask says "Remember Jeremy" hich is odd if he is Cassidy's dad
The animatronics trying to help but ending up hurting reminds me of Happs... Corrupted (in different ways) by a human, but still following their programming not realising they're actually hurting or worse... It's loose, but it's a parallel
18:39 with how often the community latches on to the wrong mysteries or blows other details out of proportion, the idea that they clarify one mystery so we actually focus on the ones they want us to solve is a very alleviating thought. They know the community by now, and have found ways to work with us and around our… intensity. Lmao
OK but the idea of the flip side and going too deep with old man consequences? What if the two different old man consequences scenes are meant to represent that people can passed between the two - more specifically someone passed from ultimate custom night into fnaf world. Idk why or who (Charlie would make sense, however the who you shouldn't of killed is clearly who is being talked to and we know that isn't Charlie...), there is a (slightly meta) connection between the two games, although the one direction is arguably just from one game being made earlier. Idk if I'm even making sense lol. It's also completely irrelevant I have just decided that I really want to figure out why that connection exists.
Did they even mention the nightmarion plush existing (maybe) in the real world and the game? And where does it appear in the game? Right before you find OMC, like is nightmarion responsible for it somehow? Hes not even pixelated in princess quest. He is the same... what does it mean?
I know how you feel about the theory thing. I have been thinking about shadow bonnie a ton all this time as well.has shadow bonnie ever appeared in a game where you as a player didn't wear a mask or were not in a dream? 2 has a mask as does ruin and shadow bonnie are in both so are we seeing some kind of thing like with bellora with the glasses?
@@friskycalibri2293plus it looks like enemies in princess quest, which may be remnants of it's code from fnaf AR depending on where that places in the lore. Plus shadow Freddy was a lure so why wouldn't shadow bonnie also be a lure just like bellora was used with the glasses as a lure? Also shadow bonnie is seen on the tv screen in the gift shop at the start of the game which takes place after vanny is saved from princess quest.
the pizaplex is not silver parasol games, silver parasol was a patsy company where fazbear could do whatever it is they were doing, cutting corners for their propaganda machine, accidentally releasing the glitchtrap program, intentionally making them install glitchtrap knowing what it would do, whatever, just because jeremy was fired from silver parasol, does nor mean fazbear enertainmen wont hire him, because they are not the same thing.
@@ShesNervous yes it is. Silver parasol is the (fictional) company that tape girl and jeremy worked for that was told to use the circuit boards for pathfinding. Before fazbear took the circuit boards back and vanessa(?) got her hands on the fready fazbear virtual experience that we call help wanted one.
From a sci-fi standpoint, string theory gives way for multiple universes. Fnaf World could be the main thread holding the other threads or multiple continuitys together (the main games world, the books, the mini games, spin offs ect..) I like to think that the build up of tragedy/horror/agony across the games, the books, the mini games ect.. all come together as a recurring echo across time and space and that created this fnaf world a place a dimension maybe afterlife for all these tragic instances across mediums. A Fnaf graveyard if you will. While the spin offs have nothing to do with the tragedies or horrors, they are still conceptually fnaf and are ruined or soiled by association by Aftons misdeeds and sucked into the mess by association. Linking their dimension to fnaf world which is linked to main games. Simpler conclusion, Fnaf world is some weird hub dimension created by the imprinting of the murders and recurring horrors across time/mediums/universes. Where the spirits can move acrossed. I always like to bring up poltergiest the movie. It fits so well. How haunting works and the closet that leads to created dimension. The arcades or Especially how the pit seems to work at retaining or trapping the essence or memory of things that can be re-accessed.
Small note, but if you do PQ4 before the Faz Force, Helpi disappears from the screen, and it instead features slides from 6's intro. I also think Vanessa had the blue vr hands in HW1. Have you watched ooftroop's Undeniably Canon Timeline?
You have absolutely no idea how giddy I was seeing this on my feed and watching you have like, all the exact same thoughts I've been having. That comment about feeling cosmically noticed hit me like a freight train too LMAO
It's always nervewracking putting out my thoughts on the story in FNaF so I'm super happy to know they were worthwhile to share and I'm super excited to see what you'll cook up with your own FNaF World theory!!!
ugh im so happy for you both hehe, its so cute. things like this are just one of the reasons i love this community so much. all your fnaf world ideas are so interesting oof, i think you anf Nervous are really onto something
I'm so glad the feeling is mutual 😂 I'm seriously so glad you decided to share your thoughts!
I feel a renewed sense of excitement for that script that's been untouched for like a month.
Heyo! Glad you liked the podcast ep! Also yeah cutting people off is something I'm working on😅 the ADHD Anxiety combo makes me want to clarify/add too quickly and I end up cutting people off. I try not to though lol.
As far as MXES being Cassie's dad, I still disagree with it. But I hope I didn't give the impression that I was saying it was wrong. I don't think it's "wrong" or impossible or anything, I just interpret things differently. Your theory on MXES is super valid, just not my current preference. I WILL SAY THOUGH, your clarification here does make a lot more sense to me. The idea of MXES's hands being similar to VR hands, and moving around in a similar way is compelling. When I watched the video/read your chats I was only thinking of "Well yeah HW2 hands look like that, thats what VR hands look like"
Yo for the record you are so seriously fine re: cutting people off
It's so easy to do especially in online convos where there's this ever so slight delay between the two speakers.
I hope I don't sound angry or anything in the video 😂 I was just feeling passionate and excited someone else saw what I saw.
Your podcast is awesome and you always handle other people's perspectives with grace. I go out of my way to push the MXES theory, but not because I think you're a hater by any means. 😂
Thank you for taking the time to engage w/a new theorist like myself and for making a pod dedicated to fnaf. Excited for your 3rd channel to make its debut!⚡️⚡️
Vanny: What makes you so special?
Jeremy "Bonnie Bully" "Bite of 87 Survivor" "Beta Tester" "Arcade Conspirator" "The Entity" Fitzgerald: ...
Another one of those previous pre-Michael technicians at CBEAR or SL in general. This explains CB's phrase "I recognize you" and the presence of memories of SL
An important detail I think is often overlooked is how Jeremy Fitzgerald is probably also a fake name. Even if the Bonnie Bully isn't Cassie's Dad, the Bonnie Bully is probably "Jeremy" because Mike's fake name in FNaF 2 is Fritz. Both of their fake names are the respective kids for their favorite animatronics in the missing children's incidents, implying they knew those kids, maybe because those kids knew the Crying Child. This doesn't necessarily mean they knew what kid got stuffed in each animatronic, or if they knew they got stuffed at all even though Mike probably figured it out. It seems like William purposely stuffed the kids in their favorite animatronics, especially based on Fritz, and this is further exemplified by the movie to me. It doesn't seem like they're wearing those clothes to show that they're the spirits possessing the animatronics to me. It seems like they were going to a party. It being his birthday could support why the fifth missing kid, the one possessing Golden Freddy, is vengeful./🩷
STOPPP i remember a while back i got the thought of MXES being our player in hw2. i started bothering my friend so much, i was like THE HANDS!! MXES HAS THE BLUE HUMANOID DIGITAL HANDS!!! AND ITS A BONNIE FACE LIKE THE BONNIE BULLY MASK, BUT HUMANOID BECAUSE ITS MADE FROM A HUMAN SOUL!!!! and ultimately, the idea that cassie sees MXES as a scary monster, but its really just her dad in a digital form trying to protect her from the real monster, just feels right to me. couple all of it with the fact that JTOP said the mxes machine was intentionally based off a design from the 1980s feels like a jab at cassies dad
Me at 2am having this revelation when I absolutely should've been sleeping lol.
Me at 2:45am watching this video
love seeing fnafworld getting the attention it deserves regarding the lore--the idea of the kids/AIs having their own "world" thats accessible through code as an afterlife always meant so much to me. this is where theyre chilling when they get a moment of rest. and im so fascinated by this theory connecting it further to the series!! my autism is boiling
15:43 yeah, the adhd inability to sometimes stop talking/ accidentally interrupting someone is something I struggle with on a daily basis. I’m glad ooftroop was still able to get their thought process out too
Oh fs and it's always going to happen in these kinds of discussions because you don't want to lose your thought either.
They both did well to make sure no one dominated conversation in this podcast. Rye is a good host in that way.
They make sure it's still their podcast, but the guest episodes really do highlight what the guest is there to talk about.
I'm glad more people are talking about how the "reality" of FNAF (and possibly the after life) are intertwined with the digital world in some way
When you mentioned Mrs Doubtfire I thought the line of thought was that Cassie's dad became Roxy and that's why she's protecting Cassie and tbh I like that theory and I'll accept it as truth from now on
awwww that's actually so cute i love that 🥲
“It is undeniable - although I’m sure people would deny it” ah, fnaf lore in a nutshell, lol
I completely get how you feel with the theories you hesitate to cover. I had this idea about Lloyd being the mascot of Indigo Park until Rowley took over, but I started losing confidence in the theory after about a week of writing the script. Then, Backseat Streams did their playthrough, pointed out a bunch of stuff I missed on their first run through the chapter, and basically said the same thing I'd been writing for a week but better and more concisely. It really stings
Golden Freddy is a time traveler, find the clocks
Is there a possibility that... after the bite of CC, Mike probably disappeared for an unspecified amount of time? Considering the possibility of the gas and William torturing him and who knows what else. Could Jeremy originally have joined the FNAF organization to find out what happened with his friend? And then William (or someone) found out his connection to the bite, and started focusing on him?
To make sure I understand - Mike disappears due to William doing the nightmare experiments. His friend group wonders where he went, so Jeremy goes looking for him and that's what leads him to get involved in Fazbear Ent.?
I could certainly see it!
@@ShesNervous yes, that was what I was thinking. It definitely has possibilities.
HELP I'M JUST NOW REALIZING I SHOWED UP IN YOUR COMMENT RESPONSE VIDEO....
HAPPY TO KNOW MY COMMENT ABOUT HOW MXES TELEPORTS AROUND IS SUPPORTING YOUR THEORY!!!
and yup!! MXES and the HW2 player do have similar SFX when they teleport around, MXES just sounds more distorted
OHH I LOVE THIS. DEFINITELY ON BOARD WITH YOUR THEORY
Thank you so much for putting reference pics/vids in here for us!! I watched Ryetoast’s video and it was hard to follow what they were talking about, like with the white outlined door.
no problem! I wanted to do more with the sounds they mentioned and that side by side walk through but I just ran out of time 😅
2:50
FNAF's inferno
I like the theory that Jeremy survived the mask getting cut from his face. Also it's interesting that the mask says "Remember Jeremy" hich is odd if he is Cassidy's dad
The animatronics trying to help but ending up hurting reminds me of Happs... Corrupted (in different ways) by a human, but still following their programming not realising they're actually hurting or worse... It's loose, but it's a parallel
your character of cassie’s dad and the entity is so interesting i can’t wait to hear more about it from you!
I swear there's going to be an hour long vid on this channel dedicated to Cassie's dad haha
18:39 with how often the community latches on to the wrong mysteries or blows other details out of proportion, the idea that they clarify one mystery so we actually focus on the ones they want us to solve is a very alleviating thought. They know the community by now, and have found ways to work with us and around our… intensity. Lmao
OK but the idea of the flip side and going too deep with old man consequences? What if the two different old man consequences scenes are meant to represent that people can passed between the two - more specifically someone passed from ultimate custom night into fnaf world. Idk why or who (Charlie would make sense, however the who you shouldn't of killed is clearly who is being talked to and we know that isn't Charlie...), there is a (slightly meta) connection between the two games, although the one direction is arguably just from one game being made earlier.
Idk if I'm even making sense lol. It's also completely irrelevant I have just decided that I really want to figure out why that connection exists.
Did they even mention the nightmarion plush existing (maybe) in the real world and the game? And where does it appear in the game? Right before you find OMC, like is nightmarion responsible for it somehow? Hes not even pixelated in princess quest. He is the same... what does it mean?
Yooo! Güby soon! First time I've seen someone other than matpat talk about it.
I have a vid up about my theory about Guby's origins if you want to watch!
Facts in FNAF. What a rare thing.
Please don’t doubt yourself! You have amazing ideas and theories that are very much worth sharing!! You are awsome! ❤❤
This is all very nervous pilled
Unrelated, but girl you are SO PRETTY!
I know how you feel about the theory thing. I have been thinking about shadow bonnie a ton all this time as well.has shadow bonnie ever appeared in a game where you as a player didn't wear a mask or were not in a dream? 2 has a mask as does ruin and shadow bonnie are in both so are we seeing some kind of thing like with bellora with the glasses?
I think I need to read blackbird as that may have something to support this.
Hell, even in FNAF AR, while it isn't a mechanic for the Shadow Bonnie fight, you still can wear a mask.
@@friskycalibri2293plus it looks like enemies in princess quest, which may be remnants of it's code from fnaf AR depending on where that places in the lore. Plus shadow Freddy was a lure so why wouldn't shadow bonnie also be a lure just like bellora was used with the glasses as a lure? Also shadow bonnie is seen on the tv screen in the gift shop at the start of the game which takes place after vanny is saved from princess quest.
Also wasn't there a note in security breach of a demotion and moving of a staff member to the pizzaplex that people may have assumed was Vanny?
the shadow bonnie in Ruin was fake. Markipliers editor put that in the video.
the pizaplex is not silver parasol games, silver parasol was a patsy company where fazbear could do whatever it is they were doing, cutting corners for their propaganda machine, accidentally releasing the glitchtrap program, intentionally making them install glitchtrap knowing what it would do, whatever, just because jeremy was fired from silver parasol, does nor mean fazbear enertainmen wont hire him, because they are not the same thing.
Help Wanted 1 is not a silver parasol game
@@ShesNervous yes it is. Silver parasol is the (fictional) company that tape girl and jeremy worked for that was told to use the circuit boards for pathfinding. Before fazbear took the circuit boards back and vanessa(?) got her hands on the fready fazbear virtual experience that we call help wanted one.
From a sci-fi standpoint, string theory gives way for multiple universes. Fnaf World could be the main thread holding the other threads or multiple continuitys together (the main games world, the books, the mini games, spin offs ect..)
I like to think that the build up of tragedy/horror/agony across the games, the books, the mini games ect.. all come together as a recurring echo across time and space and that created this fnaf world a place a dimension maybe afterlife for all these tragic instances across mediums.
A Fnaf graveyard if you will.
While the spin offs have nothing to do with the tragedies or horrors, they are still conceptually fnaf and are ruined or soiled by association by Aftons misdeeds and sucked into the mess by association. Linking their dimension to fnaf world which is linked to main games.
Simpler conclusion, Fnaf world is some weird hub dimension created by the imprinting of the murders and recurring horrors across time/mediums/universes. Where the spirits can move acrossed.
I always like to bring up poltergiest the movie. It fits so well. How haunting works and the closet that leads to created dimension.
The arcades or Especially how the pit seems to work at retaining or trapping the essence or memory of things that can be re-accessed.
Small note, but if you do PQ4 before the Faz Force, Helpi disappears from the screen, and it instead features slides from 6's intro.
I also think Vanessa had the blue vr hands in HW1.
Have you watched ooftroop's Undeniably Canon Timeline?
your schnauzer is so adorable🥺
My biggest problem with FNAF world, is that you can't really turn down the sound. Otherwise the game is awesome. I LOVE RPG games !!!