Miniature Guns for the Fascist Youth: Italian Balilla Carbines

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    As part of his effort to imbue Italy with a fascist culture, Mussolini formed the ONB, or National Balilla Organization as a replacement for all other youth organizations in Italy in 1926. It was intended for boys aged 6 to 18, and included military training. Older boys practiced shooting and drill with real rifles, but the younger boys were given Balilla carbines - blank-firing scaled-down versions of the Modelo 1891 Carcano carbine, named after an 18th century folk hero who sparked a revolt in Genoa at the age of 10 in 1746. Over 100,000 of these Balilla carbines were made between 1931 and 1943.
    The most prolific manufacturer was Fratelli Grazian of Verona, and we have both an early and later type example of Grazian carbines today. They made extensive use of bronze parts, and the early model has a distinctive bulge to the magazine well. Grazian made some 57,000 of these carbines in total.
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Комментарии • 819

  • @RvEijndhoven
    @RvEijndhoven 3 года назад +215

    They're realistically rifled so that besides learning how to aim and fire their rifle, the kids could also learn how to properly clean a rifled barrel.

    • @hardlylivin6602
      @hardlylivin6602 3 года назад +19

      At that point they could have made live cartridges for them as well. That would've been a good start to practicing marksmanship.

    • @martinadini4142
      @martinadini4142 3 года назад +3

      @@hardlylivin6602 and they would have done target prscticethe other indisciplined Kids, good idea

    • @martinadini4142
      @martinadini4142 3 года назад +3

      @@thecommissaruk i think that was the intention

  • @lamnaa
    @lamnaa 3 года назад +450

    Man, the kids who snuck a few of those home after the war would have had about the coolest toy you could imagine.

    • @Brunozamp
      @Brunozamp 3 года назад +24

      Imagine if they did a nerf war lol

    • @grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338
      @grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 3 года назад +52

      I bet it was great... until you run out of blank ammo

    • @billd.iniowa2263
      @billd.iniowa2263 3 года назад +64

      @@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 Thats what the bayonet was for. lol

    • @billd.iniowa2263
      @billd.iniowa2263 3 года назад +9

      @@Brunozamp If only all the world's conflicts could be done as so...

    • @theluftwaffle1
      @theluftwaffle1 3 года назад +21

      @@billd.iniowa2263 Moom!!! The German kid hit me in the shin! It says in the rules he can’t do that!! Kids having a say over global politics? Sure why not, can’t fuck it up any more then the adults have.

  • @arui9630
    @arui9630 3 года назад +1304

    Putting a bayonet on a kid's training rifle is pretty metal

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 года назад +93

      yo misspelled Mental

    • @johngreen-sk4yk
      @johngreen-sk4yk 3 года назад +41

      Or did he mean the bayonet is pretty and its metal ! Lol 😆

    • @giarenella
      @giarenella 3 года назад +18

      The bayonet was blunt on Balillas so it couldn't harm

    • @giarenella
      @giarenella 3 года назад +12

      @@Jargolf86 yea,it requires a lot of force to pierce though,and the bayonet was never used since the carbine was for training/weapon aknowledge purposes only

    • @Brunozamp
      @Brunozamp 3 года назад +11

      Literally metal

  • @danilshirnin2406
    @danilshirnin2406 3 года назад +61

    Italian kid asks his grandpa how to deal with bullies.
    *grandpa pulls out a kid sized Balilla with sharpened bayonet*

  • @IDOLA149
    @IDOLA149 3 года назад +280

    I only wish Ian had held it in a firing position, would have been funny to see a grown man holding a 2/3rds size gun!

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan 3 года назад +10

      Looks like it would fit in your hand like a daisy red Ryder would

    • @zendell37
      @zendell37 3 года назад +1

      Indeed. The Carcanos are pretty small to begin with.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 3 года назад +222

    "I'm you but smol!" Balilla upon being confronted by a Carcano for the first time

  • @andrearondolotti3305
    @andrearondolotti3305 3 года назад +317

    "Higly politicized boy scouts"
    I was looking for this words every time some regime-time buildings had brought up to me "Opera Nazionale Balilla" ensigns

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +15

      It can be argued they are not affiliated with the Scouts idea given it violates its core tenet: being nonpolitical

    • @DBCisco
      @DBCisco 3 года назад +8

      Look up USA's Young Marines

    • @nnniiiggg
      @nnniiiggg 3 года назад +35

      @@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 boyscouts are so non political that they're not even boys anymore lol, maybe scouts should be about what it's really about, war.

    • @ethandye8764
      @ethandye8764 3 года назад +18

      @@nnniiiggg more so frontiersmanship than war, i wish they did more with hunting and also that less troops focused on merit badges lol

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +32

      @@nnniiiggg I argue on the merit of Scouts founder Robert Baden-Powell's original vision: a nonpolitical, civic youth organization aimed at making kids at least be patriotic and prepared. If you have issues with current Scouts, that is your problem. Honestly, having the Scouts divided along gender lines is stupid...

  • @XLNC_YL
    @XLNC_YL 3 года назад +118

    When you realize too late that your rifle is "Dry Clean Only"

  • @21Wyvern
    @21Wyvern 3 года назад +288

    Reminds me of the scaled down Mosin that the Tzar's son got.

    • @grugg3108
      @grugg3108 3 года назад +61

      "Operator, there's been an accident on the range"
      "What happened, can we get a location"
      "He cut his finger on the bayonet! He won't stop bleeding!"

    • @kino_61
      @kino_61 3 года назад +53

      @@grugg3108
      - Got it. Paramedics are coming with a Rasputin.

    • @grugg3108
      @grugg3108 3 года назад +71

      @@kino_61 "Instructions unclear, fucked the Tsar's wife.
      -sincerely,
      Rasputin"

    • @justacentrist4147
      @justacentrist4147 3 года назад +14

      His fired actual ammo

    • @kino_61
      @kino_61 3 года назад +12

      @@grugg3108 and now some military guys are offering me strange wine

  • @nou1178
    @nou1178 3 года назад +132

    New Fun-sized Carcano™. Now with folding bayonet!

  • @herpderptheshep
    @herpderptheshep 3 года назад +324

    Two carbines, both alike in dignity, in fair Verona where we lay our scene

    • @Reijack
      @Reijack 3 года назад +5

      Well done to this man, well done indeed

    • @Bert2368
      @Bert2368 3 года назад +3

      @@tsoliot5913
      I bite my thumb, Sir.

    • @ComradeWinston
      @ComradeWinston 3 года назад +3

      @@tsoliot5913 quarrel sir? No sir

    • @ComradeWinston
      @ComradeWinston 3 года назад +2

      @@tsoliot5913 no better?

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 3 года назад +22

    "Balilla" threw a rock at an occupying Austrian official. He basically started a riot, but that was "The shot heard round the world" that eventually lead to the 1764 revolt. It's basically Genoese for "Little boy." The wikipedia lists his name as Giovanni Battista Perasso. IDK how much of this is true, but it lines up with what little I know about the story. I'm not Italian, I just had Italian friends growing up.

  • @W0DAN88
    @W0DAN88 3 года назад +266

    Mom can we have Carcano?
    We have Carcano at home
    Carcano at home:

  • @uomodelmonte5811
    @uomodelmonte5811 3 года назад +39

    F. M. B. stands for Fucile Modello Balilla (rifle Balilla model), cheers!

    • @FerrariusChristi
      @FerrariusChristi 3 года назад

      I was looking for this comment! Also GIL probably stand for Gioventù Italiana Littorio (littorio's italian youth) which is kinda the italian hitler youth

  • @ThePlebicide
    @ThePlebicide 3 года назад +74

    I fascinates me that even in 1941, they were still using labour and tool time to manufacture these when some of that capacity could have been used for war work. Those barrels could have been real barrels and the stocks, real stocks.

    • @arozin6773
      @arozin6773 3 года назад +13

      Well while we are talking about Italy, at the time it is likely that they had more rifles then trained men on the ground, I wish I had the exact numbers tho and it's not like they were losing many rifles when all of their fronts, at the time, were basically stalemates.

    • @vectorgeist
      @vectorgeist 3 года назад +6

      Its fascist Italy so it wouldnt surprise me if they were considering swapping them out with live ammo as a last ditch defense.

    • @ThePlebicide
      @ThePlebicide 3 года назад +2

      @@vectorgeist why would they be preparing for a last ditch defense in 1941? That doesn't seem to make much sense? Edit, or in fact in 1926?

    • @felixchaus
      @felixchaus 3 года назад +1

      @@kenbrown2808 I was wondering same thing, but since they were in organisation till age of 18 why not make rifle to be able for using in target practice. I'm thinking that they might have been issued to kids same as soldiers one rifle through service time until they grew out of miniatyre model or moved on

    • @82ismi
      @82ismi 3 года назад +5

      @@arozin6773 Actually they did not have enough equipment for their army. Just before the invasion of Greece Italy reduced the number of troops to be able to equip the remaining men. Thats completely bizarre, but even then the campaign had catastrophic results: started on the southern border of Albania, some time later the front was in the middle of Albania...

  • @lordhefman
    @lordhefman 3 года назад +52

    It's a shame it's not in .22LR.

    • @maledetto1221
      @maledetto1221 3 года назад +3

      They exist in .22 short, but they are really rare

  • @terryc522
    @terryc522 3 года назад +91

    "And the bayonet is fully functional "
    I was so hoping Ian would say..... "it will Keel"

    • @gohunt001-5
      @gohunt001-5 3 года назад +3

      I mean, it won't since it's been rounded off, so perhaps "it will _not_ keal"?

    • @Talon3000
      @Talon3000 3 года назад +10

      @@gohunt001-5 well if you poke someone hard enough with it, it probably will. but it's not good at it.

    • @nothingtoseehere1221
      @nothingtoseehere1221 3 года назад

      @@Talon3000 but if your goal is to hurt people, it is better.

    • @DANGVINH17
      @DANGVINH17 3 года назад +2

      Only if Doug Marcada stand next to him

    • @peterlowe6260
      @peterlowe6260 3 года назад +1

      Not quite so stabby!

  • @77gravity
    @77gravity 3 года назад +11

    "Two households, both alike in dignity,
    In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
    From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
    Where civil blood makes civil hands ..."
    - some olde English dude.

  • @ulissedazante5748
    @ulissedazante5748 3 года назад +6

    May be noted that those are the high quality ones.
    Families had to buy the uniform and the rifle, so a wide variety of items were on the market.
    The usual effect is that the rich kids had a proper uniform in heavyweight fabrics, this rifle, all the shabangs. And they were in the front of any parade.
    The poor boys got a cotton or autarchica erzatz fabric suit, brown shoes from the elder brother brushed in black polish and toy rifles that were just chunk of wood with a thin sheet metal barrel, crude accessories and some system to single-load a bursting cap, if any.

  • @edm240b9
    @edm240b9 3 года назад +92

    A battalion of 10 year olds with rifles is one of the scariest things I think I’ve ever imagined.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 3 года назад +27

      have you watched Lord of War? plenty of real ones exist in Africa with full auto ak47s.

    • @PlakeFilmmaker
      @PlakeFilmmaker 3 года назад +19

      We gotta Number 1 Victory Royale, Yea Balila we about to get down.
      Ten kills on the board right now, Just wiped out pepperoni town.

    • @Oob144
      @Oob144 3 года назад +6

      @@PlakeFilmmaker oh no, my childhood friend just gone down. I mercy kill him then I head south bound

    • @aminrodriguez4707
      @aminrodriguez4707 3 года назад +5

      Oh yes, sadly yes, the use of minors as soldiers really does bring results, as youngsters DO NOT have a measure of their cruelty.......they revel on it.

    • @grugg3108
      @grugg3108 3 года назад +1

      @@Oob144 now we're in Medici, look at square, there's Mussolini!

  • @maledetto1221
    @maledetto1221 3 года назад +6

    The first versions of these rifles had real rounds but later they were discountinued, that's why they were so high quality built for blank rifles for kids

  • @williammagoffin9324
    @williammagoffin9324 3 года назад +18

    I can see Othais getting emails about these: "You won't believe this, but I got Mussolini's personal mini-Carcano carbine!"

  • @user-sk5oz7fn8y
    @user-sk5oz7fn8y 3 года назад +16

    These are the fruits of the Carnano Tree, picked too early. Not ripe yet.

  • @W0DAN88
    @W0DAN88 3 года назад +255

    They're so cute!!!
    Mom, can we have one?

    • @csours
      @csours 3 года назад +15

      It followed me home!

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech 3 года назад +13

      Yes, you just have to become a fascist first

    • @W0DAN88
      @W0DAN88 3 года назад +23

      @@startedtech Where do I sign up?

    • @giarenella
      @giarenella 3 года назад +4

      Funny enough,here in italy some of them are still avaible lmao

    • @W0DAN88
      @W0DAN88 3 года назад +8

      @@giarenella Can you get me one? Just throw it over Switzerland

  • @arnoldwardenaar127
    @arnoldwardenaar127 3 года назад +39

    Both Gun Jesus and Jingles talking about Italian stuff....
    I like it!

    • @francescogreggio6712
      @francescogreggio6712 3 года назад +4

      Indeed. Although I have to say that Ian's Italian is much, much better than Jingles'. Best of all, he doesn't try to pronounce everything with a strong Supermario-ish accent.

  • @macdjord
    @macdjord 3 года назад +4

    Verona is probably better know for being where Romeo and Juliet is set.

  • @jacksterling8605
    @jacksterling8605 3 года назад +9

    Mussolini Italy: Can't give 12 yr olds acutal guns
    US Countryside: 8th grade Hunters Safety Course, here is your 22!

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan 3 года назад +3

      Mussolini Italy: 12 year olds are too young for guns yet we encourage them to join the military
      America: 12 year Olds can have guns but they can't join the military until they're adults
      I think I'd pick america

  • @giuseppenasca2091
    @giuseppenasca2091 3 года назад +14

    Carcano: Who are you?
    This toy: I'm you but smaller

  • @arkwill14
    @arkwill14 3 года назад +4

    It's because of channels like this that I don't miss the _History Channel_ (or what it used to be). Outstanding and informative presentation.

  • @giarenella
    @giarenella 3 года назад +31

    I suggested this on a Ravenfield mod server yesterday,and just now,this video got released lmfao
    Btw,if someone's wondering,some Balilla carbines are still avaible on online stores here in italy,too bad they cost a lot,or ill actually buyed one of them

    • @TheWhoamaters
      @TheWhoamaters 3 года назад +1

      Let me guess, WW2 Collection with Mell-however you spell it

    • @giarenella
      @giarenella 3 года назад

      @@TheWhoamaters exactly that one,also u can just call him Mella

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 3 года назад +14

    Reminds me of Alexi Romanov's "Half size" Mosin-Nagant though I believe that fires actual half sized ammo as well.

    • @giarenella
      @giarenella 3 года назад +1

      Yea,the size was like the real carcano catdriges,just smaller,as this video shows:
      ruclips.net/video/rY9yvElTpFo/видео.html

  • @LacasseEric
    @LacasseEric 3 года назад +4

    I wish we had scaled rifles when I started out in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets. As a 13 year old, doing drill with a full sized Lee-Enfield No. 4 was difficult.

    • @sleepyrasta14820
      @sleepyrasta14820 3 года назад

      I used to be in the air cadets here in the UK when I was a kid. I know what you mean lol

  • @salvagemonster3612
    @salvagemonster3612 3 года назад +5

    I had the chance to buy one of these back in 1989. Guy wanted a hundred bucks. But that was when I was taking home 329.00 a week and carcanos were selling for $ 40.

  • @longboweod
    @longboweod 3 года назад +16

    "Allegedly, according to legend" = Allegendly

  • @elforeigner3260
    @elforeigner3260 3 года назад +1

    “Fischia il Sasso” (whistle the stone) is a song about a kid who threw a rock against Austro-Hungarian soldiers, his nickname was Balilla

  • @balazstorok9265
    @balazstorok9265 3 года назад +18

    What a perfect title for a punk album

  • @S1apShoes
    @S1apShoes 3 года назад +184

    Perfect breakfast vidja

    • @afilleduptaco
      @afilleduptaco 3 года назад +3

      Was not expecting you here. What’s up man.

    • @NomadicHacker.
      @NomadicHacker. 3 года назад

      Most indeed

    • @Fandom_Junkie
      @Fandom_Junkie 3 года назад

      Oh hey S1ap. Wasn't expecting to see you here. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

    • @DelGTAGrndrs
      @DelGTAGrndrs 3 года назад

      @@afilleduptaco he isn’t verified tho definitely a fake

    • @squidwardsjuul6269
      @squidwardsjuul6269 3 года назад +1

      @@DelGTAGrndrs a fake with over 100 thousand followers?

  • @Mesjasz
    @Mesjasz 3 года назад +2

    Miniature Guns for the Fascist Youth sounds like a name of 80's cold-wave band.

  • @Mamiya645
    @Mamiya645 3 года назад +21

    "You're going to shoot someone's eye out!" into "You're going to shoot someone's eye out."

  • @tlshortyshorty5810
    @tlshortyshorty5810 3 года назад +16

    0:22 So these are the accurate guns for Romeo + Juliet.

  • @bami2
    @bami2 3 года назад +21

    child: mom, can we have rifle?
    mom: we have carcano at home
    carcano at home:

  • @CeltKnight
    @CeltKnight 3 года назад +48

    When I was a little kid back in the 70s, I had a toy M1 Garand. I discovered my 1917 Enfield WWI bayonet fit it about perfectly. My father's rule was, I could mount the bayonet only if I was playing alone. So I'd stick this family heirloom short-sword of a bayonet onto my toy rifle and go kill thousands of imaginary Axis soldiers in the woods and around the house.
    I'm starting to think I had a pretty darn cool childhood. ;)

  • @John.VanSwearingen
    @John.VanSwearingen 3 года назад +46

    The Keystone Mini Mosin’s dark past revealed

  • @kenwintin3014
    @kenwintin3014 3 года назад +3

    Gee whiz Ian, as soon as I think you have exhausted the list of neat stuff that I either never heard of, or considered rumors, there you go. Keep it up, I'm an old man who like to learn new/old knowledge.

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 года назад +8

    I love how even the regular size Carcano carbine still looks like a kid's rifle...and somehow now I want a wall full of half-size service rifle replicas at home.

    • @randomidiot8142
      @randomidiot8142 3 года назад

      The grip is annoyingly oversized on what would otherwise be a handy cheap little carbine to train kids/youth/women with.

  • @andreravenna4435
    @andreravenna4435 3 года назад +8

    Would love to see an episode on something along the lines of "rarest ammos" people still want to use.

  • @francescolombrici188
    @francescolombrici188 3 года назад +3

    In theory the ones with rifled or unrifled barrel could mount a small lead or wood projectile in front of the blank and be fired. There are blank firing only ones with partially plugged barrels. Also, if the owner of the rifle had a close relative that died as a soldier he would have been given a named plaque to put on the stock.

  • @tavshedfjols
    @tavshedfjols 3 года назад +7

    WW2 in Real Time, literally at the same time as Ian, uploaded a video on the rise and cooption of youth movements in greater depth if anyone is interested. "On the Homefront 008"

  • @jorgschimmer8213
    @jorgschimmer8213 3 года назад +4

    I just love these background. These „ randomly“ placed 3 MG . (M60,50.cal and a MG42😍)

  • @peterresetz1960
    @peterresetz1960 3 года назад +27

    When I was a kid back in the 1960s, we all had a Daisy Winchester 94 BB gun to train with. Many a NAZI starlin birds were felled from the mighty Daisy.

  • @philips.5563
    @philips.5563 3 года назад +6

    Verona, you know. Where we lay our scene.

  • @darrenjacobson7456
    @darrenjacobson7456 3 года назад +9

    On the rifled barrel, I'm guessing they were teaching the kids proper gun maintainence too. That would include cleaning the rifling. Just a guess though.

    • @arozin6773
      @arozin6773 3 года назад

      Most likely, or maybe whoever made them was just obsessed with all the small details.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      Other posters have said that the original plan was to have them full rifles. Some were also made in .22 Short.

  • @zacharyrollick6169
    @zacharyrollick6169 2 года назад

    My great grandpa brought one of these back, late pattern. It's in rough shape though. Rust on the barrel and receiver. Receiver screws and upper hand guard missing. Sling has riveted leather tabs, but it's snapped in the middle. At least the stock is relatively unblemished, with legible stampings.

  • @GCho733
    @GCho733 3 года назад +253

    This is adorable and disturbing at the same time...

    • @exiaruinblitz
      @exiaruinblitz 3 года назад +13

      those were my exact thoughts seeing these.

    • @lordhefman
      @lordhefman 3 года назад +59

      I mean sure, you don't want fascists handing your kids a gun. It's a issue of motive. You teaching your kid gun safety and how to use a gun is good. Letting a fascist teach your kid to be a soldier and shoot is not good.

    • @riccardo7352
      @riccardo7352 3 года назад +58

      @@lordhefman now there are liberals handing your kids puberty blockers.

    • @aaron8973
      @aaron8973 3 года назад +12

      @@lordhefman I mean for those of us who grew up with the military channel we weren't being groomed to be some fascist militants but it did make me want to join the military so I'm not so sure it's very different. I guess it's more optional lol

    • @lodiped
      @lodiped 3 года назад +14

      @@riccardo7352 based

  • @honismart
    @honismart 3 года назад +5

    Nice little rifles. Needs to be seen with Othais for scale

  • @kasperv967
    @kasperv967 3 года назад +4

    Having one of these in 22lr would be so much fun.

  • @skipperwestbrook5077
    @skipperwestbrook5077 3 года назад +1

    I currently have a Carcano that was left to me from my grandfather when he passed in 93. 6.5 Carcano.

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman 3 года назад +1

    Seems good enough for a weapons familiarization course tool, to teach those damn kids the controls, the handling... and also get used to the "bang".

  • @LongHairedLout
    @LongHairedLout 3 года назад +2

    "Minature Guns for the Fascist Youth" sounds like an alternative rock band

  • @brittakriep2938
    @brittakriep2938 3 года назад

    There had been in Germany , mostly for training , central fire cartridges 4 mm M20, and rimfire 4mm Randzünder ( two variations) for competion Zimmerstutzen. As far as i know, 4mm M20 is no more in production, but 4mm Randzünder seems to be still produced.

  • @thegamingkaiser2874
    @thegamingkaiser2874 3 года назад +9

    I've seen several of these at the 45th infantry division in Oklahoma City.

  • @denniswhite166
    @denniswhite166 3 года назад +5

    I'm thinking if my brothers and I were in the OMB or GIL and were issued these we would have sharpened the bayonets razor sharp.

    • @alkestos
      @alkestos 3 года назад

      I think you would have been punished for that. I don't believe there was much joking around allowed when dealing with (even blank firing) guns.

    • @denniswhite166
      @denniswhite166 3 года назад +1

      @@alkestos We've taken beatings for less - LOL

    • @hisstatus
      @hisstatus 3 года назад +1

      This sounds cool. Except the whole facist thing.

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 3 года назад +1

    I suspect that the bayonets were for parade drill only, i.e. honour guards for VIPs and cenotaph guard duties. The Sea Cadets near our old camp had drill rifles that they used on ANZAC day.

    • @fabiogalletti8616
      @fabiogalletti8616 3 месяца назад +1

      There are indeed popaganda photos of 10yo in full balilla uniform and this mini-rifles, bayonect erect, posing as guards to the unknown soldier sacell or other monuments - and they did all the marching corehography and change of the guard ceromonies, salutes and what not.

  • @NikoChristianWallenberg
    @NikoChristianWallenberg 3 года назад

    These things were pretty common around the world at the time: besides Italy guns like this also existed in Japan and Germany, but also in various other countries. They were built akin to the typical bolt-action rifle of the respective country, but fired blanks or at most some very low-powered rounds.

  • @brainyskeletonofdoom7824
    @brainyskeletonofdoom7824 3 года назад +36

    I remember the brothers of my grandma telling me about those rifles that they had to use during school, it may look silly now, but it was just another way for a brutal government to control the next generation, nobody was smiling when i was told about the Balilla youth organization

    • @tunderstorm2769
      @tunderstorm2769 3 года назад

      E poi ci stanno gli stupidi che dicono che bellino

    • @vectorgeist
      @vectorgeist 3 года назад +7

      Those kids were basically raised to be soldiers. Its kind of sad.

    • @alkestos
      @alkestos 3 года назад +1

      @@vectorgeist I would have thought it was cool as a kid

    • @shoopusdawhoopus
      @shoopusdawhoopus 3 года назад +5

      @@alkestos up until you got sent to a meat grinder to hold some bridge on a supply-line, sure.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +1

      @@shoopusdawhoopus Then again, for a kid it is an interesting idea. Which is what groups like these capitalize on...

  • @Benny_M_1922
    @Benny_M_1922 2 года назад

    In those years they invented also balilla soccer (calcio balilla). Not many outside italy know the original name of this super famous game

  • @thegael1996
    @thegael1996 3 года назад +3

    They're legit awesome little rifle replicas.

  • @trooperdgb9722
    @trooperdgb9722 3 года назад +1

    Love his technical descriptions.... "not quite so stabby"

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      You don't need much of a point on a bayonet when there's a 6+lb rifle and a 100+lb person behind it.

  • @alun7006
    @alun7006 3 года назад +4

    Fascinating and grotesque in equal measure.

  • @TotalRookie_LV
    @TotalRookie_LV 3 года назад +3

    Soviets too had similar youth organisations, three tiers of them, depending on the age group, the medium ties - pioneers, largely got many ideas snatched from scout organisation, even name is along the same lines. We got to shooting air rifles at school age 9 or 10.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +1

      Everyone liked the Scouts idea that they coopted it and add in their own agenda. But in the process left behind some awesome things like functional mini Soviet tanks from the East German Pioneers...

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 года назад +2

      The italian three grades were "Figli della Lupa" (sons of the she-wolf), 6-8 years old, "Balilla" 9-14 years old, and "avanguardista" (vanguard) 15-18 years old.

    • @TotalRookie_LV
      @TotalRookie_LV 3 года назад +3

      @@neutronalchemist3241 LoL, "Figli della Lupa" sounds interesting. First tier in USSR were oktyabryata / октябрята - October's little ones, meaning kids or successors of the October revolution, also sometimes named "Lenin's grandchildren" in songs and stories.

  • @charlesadams1721
    @charlesadams1721 3 года назад +4

    I wonder if you have seen any of the evidently very rare now, Soviet Komsomol and later the 'Pioneers', 'training' rifles? I know there are some Chinese CYLC items floating around among collectors, but the Soviet versions of these would be interesting to compare?

  • @wizzzer1337
    @wizzzer1337 3 года назад +4

    didn't work so well for Mussolini in the end...

    • @luigin649
      @luigin649 3 года назад

      It's hard to use a rifle, when your government can't give you an actual rifle during a campaign~ that was the main problem.

  • @GrendalTheBeasty
    @GrendalTheBeasty 3 года назад

    When I was in Army JROTC at the ripe old age of 13 to 18, they just handed us fully functional (as far as I could tell) M1 Garands. Some of our smaller members were dwarfed by the things. We were not issued bayonets nor did we fire the M1's. We used some Daisy target air rifles for shooting practice. Honor guard was issued sabers too. They were blunted, but being sabers there was still the occasional minor poke or cut. Nothing serious though.

  • @collinmclaren6608
    @collinmclaren6608 3 года назад +1

    _'Miniature Guns for the Fascist Youth'_ has band name potential behind it

  • @seamonster936
    @seamonster936 3 года назад +1

    The best thing about this channel is the historically accurate flags. I like that.

  • @Gronicle1
    @Gronicle1 3 года назад

    I ran across one of these in a gun store about two years ago. It was in very good condition metal and wood. At the time I thought it was chambered for .22. It seems to have all the features of a real Carcano (sp?). Several of us tried to buy it but the owner wasn't letting go.

  • @wisecrack3461
    @wisecrack3461 3 года назад +2

    "Well I've bought these guns for the Italian Youth"
    "We wanna teach kids about the *Fusionist truth"
    "If you wanna beat those Yanks in the streets"
    "Then you gotta train your tykes with a blank-fire piece"
    "We gave them guns with a very low kick"
    "The targets won't fly but nobody got nicked"
    "Our reserves are big and they keep getting bigger"
    "That's cause Mussolini is my -Ni-- Leader"
    -Instructor Jim Colereich, "Rappin' for Minister"
    * YT said no

  • @davide.truzzi
    @davide.truzzi 3 года назад

    Those models weren't blank firing: they can shot low power cartridges like 6mm flobert or .22 short. That's why the barrel is rifled (I guess 4 grooves).
    They were tiny, but absolutely real, firearms.
    Late production models were blank firing and the barrel was closed.
    Side note: I belieave "FMB" Stays for Fucile/Moschetto Balilla, not a patent or something

  • @cameronmccreary7697
    @cameronmccreary7697 3 года назад +1

    If one shoves a small slug of lead in the chamber the size of the bore then the blank cartridge inserted for firing I'll bet, that it would discharge the slug. It might not go very far but, l bet it would cause a injury or death. When I was a kid my brother and I found a technique for making an air driven pop gun rifle discharge projectiles albeit, they usually didn't go very far and we never pointed it at any living thing.

  • @TheAngelobarker
    @TheAngelobarker 3 года назад

    Some of the girls DID shoot in their organizations tho they were focused on home making. The first rifles of the balilla DID fire however they were quickly replaced with blank firing. The Balilla was replaced with the GIL.

  • @UHCredhead
    @UHCredhead 3 года назад +4

    I just watched a video on this subject by WW2 in real time, very convenient you posted this, also Verona is absolutely stunning, highly recommend going there if you’re in northern Italy, tbh all of Tuscany is gorgeous

    • @johnthomas-km2bf
      @johnthomas-km2bf 3 года назад +2

      Isn't it? Lombardy too.....Cremona is a fun little town to hang around in.

    • @UHCredhead
      @UHCredhead 3 года назад

      john thomas we stayed in a villa about 20 mins south of Florence near a village called chianti in greave, Christ alive man I could quite happily live in that area, there way of life is so chilled

    • @ColHoganGer90
      @ColHoganGer90 3 года назад

      Verona is not a part of Tuscany, not even close.

    • @UHCredhead
      @UHCredhead 3 года назад

      ColHoganGer90 shit! You are correct! I was thinking of voltera! Verona is gorgeous aswell

  • @rich7787
    @rich7787 3 года назад +4

    Cool guns! The 1891 Carcano just looks so good

  • @drdoom-skull2244
    @drdoom-skull2244 3 года назад

    Before WW1 France was training kids in the "bataillons scolaires" (school batallions, ie some kind of cadet scheme) with scaled down Lebel in 6mm Bosquette (you could fire .22LR but it wasn't recommended). They looked about half-size. They had names like "La Scolaire".

  • @KrizpyKilla
    @KrizpyKilla 3 года назад

    I swear Ian passed gas at 8:35, no idea how my deaf ass caught that but after I did I couldn't un-hear it

  • @immanuellimbong4802
    @immanuellimbong4802 Год назад

    It's was similar happend in Indonesia(or Dutch East Hindie) on World War ii. When Japanese successful occupied South East Asia, they trainned the local people and children to use the Take Yari(in Japanese means Bamboo Spear).
    It's 1.7 m long for children, and 2 m long for adult.
    Now it became symbol of history of people's resistance againts Dutch - British army in 1945.

  • @luigin649
    @luigin649 3 года назад

    The balilla had some lovely longs and marches as well like "fischia il sasso"

  • @ALegitimateYoutuber
    @ALegitimateYoutuber 3 года назад +1

    I would love one of these if it fired 22lr that be such a cool little gun to have for just plinking and just having around as a neat little piece.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 года назад +2

      The first samples were real rifles, in 6mm Flobert or .22 Short. Then it was deemed too dangerous, and they were made blanks.

  • @neutronalchemist3241
    @neutronalchemist3241 3 года назад +1

    There were blanks, and firing ones, the laters in 6mm Flobert or in .22 Short.

  • @heikopanzlaff3789
    @heikopanzlaff3789 3 года назад

    In eastern germany ( Junge Pioniere ) they played with fully functional . 22 LR AK style submachine guns ...

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 3 года назад

    Very interesting, at least for me! The official name was Moschetto regolamentare Balilla model 1891 ridotto and, according to the will of Mussolini and the other hierarchs of P.N.F. (Partito Nationale Fascista) or the National Fascist Party and was used for the training of Italian youth weapon was commissioned by the central presidency of the Opera Nazionale Balilla, founded in 1926, for pre-military training of young people aged between 8 and 14. The musket was produced by the FNA company based in Brescia (formerly known as P. Lorenzotti), by the Napoleone and Vittorio Castelli factory (also in Brescia) and was produced around 30,000 units. My late father has in possession a Moschetto regolamentare Balilla model 1891 ridotto in almost mint condition but I'm not at home now so I don't remember when and who produced this gun. I have (like a lot of guys of the same age!) a photo of my proud young father with this Moschetto. Hope I didn't bore you...

  • @usbiv223
    @usbiv223 3 года назад

    “Battalion of 10 Year Olds” is the name of my new band!

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 2 года назад +1

    Curious they didn't teach actual marksmanship to their junior cadets. I thought these would have been chambered in .22 rimfire at least, like British cadet rifles were.

  • @davidcarr7436
    @davidcarr7436 3 года назад

    Love to see more of stuff like this.
    Maybe a series on the .22 caliber training models of the Enfield, Mauser, etc.

  • @SuperCrazf
    @SuperCrazf 3 года назад

    This thing is so small it’s actually adorable, I want to name it. I’ll name it Bambino

  • @bloke755
    @bloke755 3 года назад

    Lee Harvey Oswald : " But you told me it was a blank firing miniature....... " .

  • @brendonbewersdorf986
    @brendonbewersdorf986 3 года назад +1

    I love how it's literally a baby carcano lol

  • @papahutt1245
    @papahutt1245 3 года назад +1

    I have a question about my carcano serial number letter prefix. It has a big U and then a really small cn next to it.
    Can anyone explain this?
    The full ser# is Ucn 6582

  • @Leery_Bard
    @Leery_Bard 3 года назад

    [05:48] Yes: "Fucile, Modello Brevettato" means "Rifle, Patented Model".

  • @RalphReagan
    @RalphReagan 3 года назад +6

    I was a carcano owner before they were cool.!

  • @eliwoodham2367
    @eliwoodham2367 3 года назад

    the cavalry carbine is in itself a very small rifle. without a size reference I'm sure many would mistake one of these for the real deal.