Throwback 5.0 Mustang⚡️Heads, Intake, E303 Cam, 4.10 Gears⚡️Foxbody Brigade
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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1990 Mustang GT with Edelbrock heads, E303 cam, Edelbrock intake, 24lb. injectors, underdrive pulleys, BBK equal-length headers,
BBK off road X-pipe, Flowmaster American Thunder cat-back and other bolt-on mods with 4.10 gears in the rear. Messing around with it a bit before heading to the track, unfortunately only ran a 12.9 but after a TFS intake swap and tune it ran mid 12s.
I shot this footage many years ago in the early '00s. Sadly Nate has passed away a few weeks ago. Thankfully I was able to capture many memories on video back in the day. I had many good days running around with Nate in our 5.0 Mustangs. We will miss you old friend...
R.I.P Nate Burns
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One of the most iconic foxbody clips
Thank you♥️
And on the 7th day,god said,let there be a 5.0 mustang......
lol best comment ever on a foxbody video... can i steal it
Amen🙏!!!!!😊
Ahh, the good old days. GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, Cobra intake, 3:73's, pulleys, long tubes. When performance was simple and much cheaper. [ By today's standards. ]
reefblue331 amen
And that setup is still a contender in today’s world of racing fox’s are light and they hook 350hp on a Fox is a bad mofo
What kind of time would it run with that setup??
With slicks I would guess low 13’s maybe high 12’s
@@nolag1313 I have aluminum GT40 heads, E303, Cobra intake, 373 and back in the day I ran mid-high 12s in 1/4 and low 8s in 1/8. With a 175 shot I ran low-mid 11s. Now my car has 271k miles so I don't race it anymore. I sure miss the 90s. Now I drive a Coyote and even though it's nice I still love my old Fox.
I miss the '80s... 5.0 Mustangs, IROC-Z Camaros, Formula 350 Firebirds and Buick Grand Nationals... Motley Crue and Ronald Reagan.
The fox mustang is an icon! Love those cars!
rhino250r For that reason alone I will never sale mine. I have owned it for many years and today it just sits but I know she's there and safe and it's still mine
Im with rhino250r, the foxbody is the best old car you can own! I absolutely love my foxbody, it is THE best! I'm so glad I own one. The price is just going up on them, but I would never sell mine. I've been working on it for close to a year, now I'm just waiting for the right person to give it a good paint job. Then I will be posting a couple videos. Your car is sweet brother!
The sound of this 5.0 just makes my eyes water as I smile from all the memories I had with such a beautiful fun car. Miss mines sooo much.
Nothing sounds as cool as a 5.0 Mustang. Nothing! Don't care if you've got any tuner, exotic, other muscle, this sounds better.
The 4.6 IMO sounds better, but i love a nice foxbody :)
Jaafar Farhan You might be right, they sound pretty awesome. The 4.6L 2v is the next best. I didn't like the sound of the 3v that much.
kingcrimson234 I think the 4-valve DOHC 4.6 sounds the best as well.... followed by the old conventional 5.0 H.O motors. m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=C45cwjF7BGQ
idk man a strait pipe 6.0 powerstroke sounds pretty good too
kingcrimson234 The new Coyote 5.0's sound pretty cool now. I know some people are on the fence about the Flat-plane 5.2 in the GT350 but I think it sounds really cool. I mean, a V8 engine that can rev to 8200 RPM? Yes please!
I’ve watched this video over time and I can’t stop enjoying this mustang great build this man has
Sadly Nate passed away a few weeks ago.
He also had an orange 5.0 LX on the channel. He will be missed.
@@nedaCFilms so sorry to hear about your friend Nate. Love watching all of your old mustang videos with you, him, and all of your buddies. 😢
You just can't beat the sound of a foxbody
Right on man, lol... the late-'80s and '90s was a fun time to be a gear head and Fox-Body owner. These cars were the stuff no doubt, unless some richy rolled up in a sleeper Grand National, lol... as time passes, these cars will be even more special. Notice how when we do pass a nice one we jump up in our seats and are like, " oh man, check out the sweet-ass Fox-Body, lol. I'm lucky if I see one out and about once per month, a nice one that is...
That Fox is a beast!!!
20-25 years ago it was a real heavy hitter and upset many LT1 and brand new LS1 F-bodies. He sold it back around 2004 or so and sadly Nate passed away last year.
@@nedaCFilms I am very sorry to hear that he was on hell of a good driver
@@KB2.9L yeah, he knew his way through the T5 gearbox lol. Thanks bud.
Don't care what it runs I am in love
"Bobby's hittin that Mug" lol
Beautiful fox.and that beautiful sound with flowmaster they should have come from factory with flows nothing can make that beautiful hollow sound like a 5.0 mustang
What an amazing sounding and feeling car
My absolute favorite body style for Mustang... Love the rear spoiler and body style from 87-93 ... Affordable horse power!! Good looks also...
Good videos nedac keep em coming.These cars will allways have a place in my heart,back in the good old days of racing they were the car to beat.lts funny that back then there was so many of them roaming the streets.These days it's rare to see a nice one roaming around,kinda sad.Fortunetly I still have one its my baby everytime I take it out in the summer I always have people talking to me about it.l plan on keeping this one cause of its survivor status and get a notch to build.
So similar to my old 89GT. Man great memories!!
This is how I spent my new years eve... going through old video footage and making a Mustang video for RUclips, lol...
...but also like you had stated, for some people the cam's sound alone is very important, and a few hp may be sacrificed for that specific aggressive thrash... radical snappy, choppy idle that certain cam-exhaust combos produce... like the musical magic of the Motorsport B-303 cam coupled with 2-chamber Flowmasters, which happens to be one of my favorite sounds produced from a Mustang's exhaust tips, lol. I've heard some really great things about Comp Cams pieces... which may be my next cam pick
Still like better then my current plastic new car
1:18 Hard as Hell, Foxbody forever
That pony was wild!
...keep in mind, these are just "off the shelf" lower end Edelbrock performer heads, performer style intake and motorsport .498 lift cam. Some head work, intake manifold work, valve train geometry tweaking and balancing, etc... could certainly yield some more impressive numbers.
Dam i didn't no nate pass away wat happened to him he was my friend dam
Can’t beat the ole 5.0’s
BRENDAJASON1 oh yeah I can 😉
BRENDAJASON1 til about 450-500 hp when the blocks split down the middle lol
Imagine owning a near stock complete mint 93 cobra! A man can dream! But I love this car!
I used to work at the AutoZone in Wytheville VA. I live in WV though. I loved that area.
Mustangs are the undisputed Kings of the trailer parks!
super Mustang bro and like put
I had a 72 chevelle with a 454 and nos and I swear where I lived everyone had a 5.0 mustang and they were 90% of the cars I would end up racing. We would win every time but that’s because the chevelle was set up,for the quarter mile track so I had it running in about the high11s in the quarter mile which was not very common to find a car with those kind of et,s on the street and the mustangs would get so pissed off because they were usually the faster car on the street at that time. I’m not trying to brag I just really miss seeing so many of the early 90s mustangs when I was at that age that was the car to get they were everywhere and every one I would run into would want to race.and we would smoke them but it,was not fair at all cus like I said mime was geared for the track . I still give the mustang props cus it would be the only car that could even come close to keeping up. They were definitely the car to have back in those days man I miss them even tho they were my arch nemesis lol. Much respect to whoever still runs one and what ever you do don’t sell it. That was my mistake and I have regretted it still to this day . I got into the whole crotch rocket phase and I will miss my car forever. If u are lucky enough to,still have a 5.0 on the street keep killing it man cus they are beautiful cars and harder to find every year that passes . Keep older 5.0 mustang era alive I 💕 love it wen I see one that has been kept up and still ripping up the streets.
Just like any cam, the E-303 cam is great when used in the right application. Most guys quick to trash talk these cams just hear someone else trashing them on a forum. Like, "junk Letter cams"... or "out-dated Alphabet cams"...but most of those fellas don't even know the difference between dual pattern cams & single pattern cams. Sure it is silly to install an E-cam with TFS or AFR heads, but a budget build with stock heads & bolt-ons a B-cam works great, or ported GT40P heads & F-303 cam also.
i can take that off your hands for ya, i need a car like that! Nice work
I have a 93 limited edition canary yellow with the chrome ponies, black leather interior, black convertible top,auto, stock,i have been tore up by two family cars here in mesquite tx, I learned my lesson.
Wait what happened? you crashed your stang twice and got fucked up?
no, I mean I have raced two family cars in witch they both have beat me.
all show and no go, tfs top end should fix that
Dude save a little more money and either buy a long block for around 4 grand from either DSS Racing or ford racing because your stock bottom end is on borrowed time unless it was redone with forged pieces. Plus your on the ragged edge with the piston clearance. If I did just top end parts on my stock motor it would have failed me just months after. Now my motor is 9 years old already and still runs strong just like day one....
12.9 ain't bad in a heavy full dressed GT model with an "old" standard bore 302 with Edelbrock performer heads-intake and E303 cam, 24lber's, pulleys, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust and 4.10s. This GT weighed 3,300+lbs. with a 200+lb driver (total weight was probably creeping towards 3,600lbs)..... not bad at all.
+nedaCFilms / Mustang-Town was this his best time? did he ever get this car on a dyno? also the gt were like 3190lb curb weight the gt fulll option vert was around 3300 lbs my lx vert stock weighed 3240lb no weight reduction at all still good by todays standard considering a hard top mustang now weighs 3700 long live the foxbody haha
hey nedafilms did he have air conditioning and power windows locks etc? just just trying to get an idea of weight on mine 87 GT no power anything factory stripper, fibreglass hood
+Jerry Cantrell Find your local "metal recycle" scrapyard, and you can weigh your car there. I weighed my early model 5-liter SN95 like that, it was 3,250 and I didn't even ask... I just drove on the scale and looked up at the digital readout, then drove away, lol. But anyway, I would think your car is somewhere under 3,100lbs give or take.
Nice car bro!
Hey Nedac! I'm getting a fox soon, what do you think of 4.10s in a foxbody? My friend has them in his new edge and they are shoooooort. are they too short for your liking? Debating between 3.73s or 4.10s but i feel they're too short for such a small car
Fun $%^#ing cars! I always come back and watch this video. LOL
+Doug FA They are a blast, lol. They were/are so special because they were just basic no frills affordable American Iron. You could get them brand new for $10,000 back in the day, throw some slicks on them, add some timing and 93 octane and run 13 second 1/4 miles. Impressive back in the '80s. They were the absolute "best bang for the buck" car through the '80s and early '90s.
+nedaCFilms / Mustang-Town gotta love them ol fox cars
Yeah, i had a 88 notchback back in the day and had shorty headers, H pipes, flowmasters, pulley's, home made ram air and 3.73 gears running on Goodyear gatorbacks turning out 13.60's at 100mph
all day.
Having fun on rte 9 huh? Then headed over to Mason Dixon Dragway. Greetings to you. I want to do volunteer photographer this year.
thats a bad ass fuckn pony. i just installed a 306 in my 91' Fox and i cant wait to run it. hoping to reach low 13's.
i miss the 90's
...and that is a Mustang pubication that tested that LS1 to a 12.9 so no bias either... the car was completely stock and the run was at sea level (New Jersey). I have read road tests that have recorded the 98-02 LS1 cars anywhere from 12.8 to 13.8 with 13.2 being the average times. I have another magazine around here that has a 100% bone stock Z28 running 13.1 and I believe it was Car Craft back in 2000. I'll dig around and see if I can find that issue, scan & post that on my website as well.
perfect fox body tone.
2021 and 12 seconds is still the sh!t
I agree
I love to make my 85 Lincoln town car 5.0 fast when I broke it down
Nice Stang. Just bought a 91 GT myself. Bone stock just like I wanted it. Well stock except for the headers, flowmasters and the cold air intake on it. I'm gonna do a 347 stroker for it, Stalker front bumper, Cobra R hood and some custom paint which I will design myself. I've wanted one for a long time an now I finally have one. Just a fun summer toy to piss with.
It was pretty nasty back in it's day (late '90s - early '00s) but now not as much with factory 400+hp Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers running around, lol. This thing is probably putting out a little over 300hp to the tires, and it's a full weight and optioned GT model, so it's a bit heavy... if he would have trimmed the fat it would have been much nastier.
Muscle Mustang & Fast Fords magazine tested a bone stock LS1 and ran 12.9 with it... you can find the original article from 2001 on both my websites: Mustang-Town(dot)com & StreetShowDriftDrags(dot)com
Badass
I fu@&ing hate 5 inch tachs on the dash. You already have one next to the speedo, you don't need another one.🤣🤣🤣
12.9 is still pretty fricken quick. I ran that in my Subaru WRX.. felt awesome. Sold it though.. currently looking for a Fox Body mustang. Glad to see with a few upgrades I can break into the 12's easily :-) Can't wait to start the project.
I am so ready to get one. Looking to spend like 5 on a nice one.
Depends what you intend to do with it... the new-edge cars benefit well from 4.10 to 4.56 gears. The Fox-Body 5.0 motors have loads of low end torque and can perform great with 3.55 and 3.73 gears, but if you want to kill people stop light to stop light, or be an 1/8 mile champ, you can run 4.10, 4.30 or 4.56 gears. 3.73 is really the best middle ground gear. Then again, there is a fella on here (TooSlo86) that runs a GT40p engine, with a cam and 4.56 gears (alot of tuning) and runs 11s, so...
l always have people driving beside me with there windows down then get the thumbs up.Funniest one was some hot chick in a sn95 v-6 model that had her windows up when I past her,she sped up and buzzed down her windows and drove beside me for 20 minutes.l think she was pretending that the sound was coming from her car.Made me chuckle.Good times man!!! You still have a foxbody now? or wanting another?
I must say i have watched this video atleast 10 times man lol I'm thinking about replicating a road test review on my fox and playing some cheesy old background music like motorweek and car and driver did back in the day lol
...thanks for the support man, lol
That car comes out of the hole nice and that dude can drive. Was that 106 mph? Not bad at all and there's not a lot of money in a build like in the video description.
Parts are cheap and plentiful for these 5 liter Fords.
It's only a standard bore 5.0 with the typical heads, cam and intake, and other supporting bolt-on mods and gears... with that said, 300hp to 350hp is the limit for a basic under 180cc heads, under .500 cam and the tuned-length style intake setup.
Yeah, same GT with this same setup when he raced the LT1 the 1st time (Camaro picks a fight in Mustang-Town) ...but he made a couple changes like Trick Flow intake, tuning, etc when they raced the second time (Camaro returns to Mustang-Town) which is why the Camaro didn't do as well as expected with the new bolt-ons, lol. Also, after the parts swap he managed to squeeze out a 12.6 I think it was...
I agree... but in this day and age Camaros and Mustangs are running that off the showroom floor. Hell, the 98-02 LS1 F-bodies have been known to hit high 12 second times with perfect runs. But you are right, considering this car stock was a mid-to-high 14 second runner.
Probably around the 230hp range (give or take)... there is a old company that CNC machine ports the E7 heads as well as adds 1.90 valves, etc... do a search for "Power Heads" and expect an addition 40hp from these heads. With the CNC E7 Power Heads and a decent Cobra or GT40 intake you can probably get your car up to around 280hp. You can send your heads in or better yet, buy a cheap set of stockers on eBay and have them shipped there. They've been CNC porting these heads since 1996.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh so nice. Currently swaping out my loveable 1990's inline 2.3 for a 4.9 1979 pace car replica's 5.0. The pace car is so rusted its not worth saving. So im ripping it out (with some help of course) and dropping it into my 2.3's body. Its got no rust and the frame of the car is perfect because well.... 88hp stock doesnt exactly twist or bend the frame haha. I just hope one day it will be as bad ass as this one holy fuck i am addicted to mustangs.
Doing same thing almost, swapping black interior into my 2.3 from other 2.3, then 5.0 from a 5.0
that's a sick car
where is the rear window decal from?
got the same car 92 black on black gt except I have the sc style rims and one piece headlights same hood this one magical cars have fun
It really all depends on the purpose... Drag, street or road racer? Cam specs and intake design? The long intake runner design makes loads of torque at lower RPMs, as well as having an extremely low 1st gear in the T5 tranny... I personally think that 3.55 and 3.73 gears work well in the 5.0 and 4.10 and 4.30 gears are better suited for the 4.6 models as they don't make the torque that the pushrod motors make and need a torque multiplier off the line. Put some 3.73 gears in it, lol.
beautiful car man
highway to hell needs to be put over this, :)
Lol, that would be awesome...... but due to copyright infringement not good idea lol.
@@nedaCFilms indeed hahaha, currently restoring my dads 85 gt. These cars are so fun but hard to work on hahah.
Doesn't even need to try to burn out.. and too badass for the camera microphone lol A+++++++
As Jimi Hendrix would say-Oh!!! Foxy Lady!!!!!
Best sound ever and nice lookin but should a deleted the ac and smog pump
Ive had my fox for about 10 years and have gone through a lottt of tires.... currently running some nittos in the back, theyll last hopefully at least 2 years lol.
Happy New year
Ordered 3.73s today, cant wait to get em in! My car has CAI, pulleys, shorty headers, off road mid pipe, exhaust, and a Ford Racing cam (not sure of the cam specs). What would you guess it makes? 220 to the wheels or so? Also does it help much to port the E7s? Thanks!
What year was this? I'm assuming around 1999-2002 just because I spotted that MAF and it appeared to be the Black Composite/Plastic/polymer whatever material it was that PRO M went to from the Chrome Bullet 75mm.. If my memory is correct the Chrome Bullet came out in late 94ish I believe and then they went to that Black plasticish material around 2000 or something like that.
They juss don't kno bruh good work really
Nice car
12.9 is a bit slow for all those parts, may have needed more tire suspension who knows. there have been pleanty of full weight GTs still rocking the stock heads and cam, with a good intake, a good tune, the right gears, right suspension, the right tires that are just as fast. stock gt40p heads will get you the 300rwhp with the right cam and tune. that e303 cam was killing that combo.
e303 is mostly for S/T\C applications afaik
Nick C. Yeah it's the "entry level" FMS cam, even though the "B" has a lower designation and lower lift, it's actually more aggressive when retarded 5-8 degrees.
12.9 is about right. The track didn't look that good of a set up as far as the surface goes, especially at the light to the 60 foot mark where most races are won or lost. Also don't forget about the air temp. which way the wind is blowing if there was wind, also humidity can make or break a drag race, as well as the elevation height at or above sea level which a lot of tracks won't give you a altitude correction factor time slips. Don't forget about the driver and the traction of the tires as well as the life of the clutch and tranny and the proper shifting RPMs because a lot of drivers like to max out 7000 RPMs on every gear thinking it will make a huge difference. I am very guilty of that so I had to teach myself to stop or short shift at the very least. Any way I thought I will add my 2 cents just for anybody that doesn't know these types of things. Thank you to whoever for reading this.
Sweet!
In stock form they were and the crappy 2.73 gear ratio. LX Hatchback with suspension tuning crappy radials exhuast,intake,4.10 gears 31xx with me in it ran a 13.4 all day with a 1.97 60ft They arent fast stock form but it doesnt take anything to wake them up. plan for gt40 head swap and more tuning suspension upgrades. hoping for mid 12s
If you can find the lighter "Notchback" Coupe model, which weighs in around 2,800lbs you can easily run 12 second 1/4 miles.
Makes me miss my old Bird. The intake on that Five O looks identical to the one i had. I was putting 406 hp to the ground. The cam sounds a little bigger in this one. Pushin somewhere round 520 or so?
This footage was from years ago, in the Northern Shenandoah Valley region (the very top tip of Va) ...these days I've settled in the Piedmont region of Va, about an hour south-west of D.C.
Great tuning, great car, now you just need to learn how to control that amount of horsepower
This is the gt that spanked the lt1 camaro with the new bolt on mods. Was expect little better time though.
LOL!!! ......sounds cool.
Did you forget to release the parking brake? A bone stock late model fox 5.0 efi was good for 14s. So what gives? Btw, it sounds great.
DAMN
Hey bruh nice car what part of va yall from because I'm from va n I have a 88lx.
It's in the video description...
Hey Nedac. I'm 16 and the only first car I ever wanted was a 1998 Mustang GT Motorsport Edition. But I wanted to know if the Thundercats sound the best in your opinion. I'm getting my car is a few months when I get the money. Also are the stock seats suitable for you. I was wanting to get new buckets with 4pt harnesses.
dope
true thunder right therr
Nothing like a Fox! I recently bought a 93GT with Cam and full bolt ons. Much to my dismay it has 2.73 gears! Whats the best gear ratio for a cammed full bolt on Fox in your opinion? 3.73s? Thanks
i would have way to much fun in a fox body. id be buying new tires every month.
I hate vacuum leaks!!!!! I don't know what you were doing under the hood but I assume that it was a vacuum leak cause it sounds just like my 331!!!!
Yep, vacuum leak at the back of the intake manifold, lol.
12.9 was respected back when this was shot around 10 years ago... by todays standards not so much as factory Camaros and Mustangs run that straight off the showroom floor.
Lol it's weird seeing the vid, sine this was all just down the road from me here in Berryville,VA
There is a HUGE difference between 14 second and 12 second 1/4 miles, lol...
Damn, Hot Chick in a girlie V6 Mustang... I might have followed her home, lol. Yeah man, I have a 5.0 Fox-Body model and a 5.0 SN95 model. I have a few videos of them on here, and actually just posted a few newer clips a few weeks ago. I'm looking to trade my SN95 for a 1989 performance optioned 3rd Gen Camaro, to do a shootout type video series with the 3rd Gen and my Fox-Body. I have a weak spot for that era Domestic cars, lol.
Neda, is that a "Saleen" wing? Always loved the look of that wing.
BEBNC1 it is...