Had a 91 Mustang GT years ago, built a studded and girdled 331ci, Trickflow Heads, Intake, B-Cam, 24lb injectors, Cobra MAF, tuned, high flow cats, 3.55 gears, 5-speed, put out 387hp at rear wheels, wish I would have kept it, was a fun car.
Yes, it's worth it. Also, a heads/cam/intake car absolutely does not need a Holley Terminator X. These cars have been running around for 3 decades without it. Plenty of people have gone plenty fast on the factory EFI, including speed density.
I'd like to see a stock 5.0 on just an on3 kit. Also when I put the heads on my car I didn't realize I was gonna lose a little compression. Which is much better for boost.
These cars run like a mofo with the right hci combo even on a 302. A lot of people just need to spend the time to do their research. Seen a lot of simple combos kill it on the street. Most important thing is to be realistic about your expectations and just have fun!
I got a stock 92 5.0 as my first fox. Second Fox i got a 93 with the full Trickflow top end kit and wow night and day. So much more fun.... Not gonna be out running much of anything that is coming out these days but its alot of fun and you can kick aome tires!!!!
Bro!! I know I’m late to watching this video but finally you got some good music in your videos! Not that the others are bad lol. I just like this one!!! I love these cars and I really enjoy watching your videos and I watch brew2l also and you guys know your stuff and I have learned so much from you guys and just wanted to say thanks bro!!!
Happy woth my GT40s, B cam, Explorer set up for now. Runs good, males enough power to destroy the tires into third. Seems like everyone has the same build now. AFR, Systemax and a FTI cam.
I just like the reliability of an NA set up. I have an 89 GT that I’m looking to do an H/CI combo on. Probably going GT40 Upper/Lower intake, AFR heads and a E303 cam, that should really wake the car up especially with the 3.73 gears=). Great video my friend
Best mods on my 89 GT back in the day!! My baby had GT 40 Y303 heads 1-70 rollers GT40 upper n lower intake, 65mm intake, stock cam,, but that was all I needed to get me past those LT1 Z28 at the track n on the streets!! Oh 355 gears ⚙️ best money 💴 spent!!❤️❤️
Lets be honest...these cars are a hole you pour $$$ into. I agree with what you say, but my gt40 head, explorer intake/TB/MAF, B cam coupe, while no world beater, will have to work for now. Gives me just enough performance to fuel dreams!
All most definitely worth it you must not have drove a stock one in a while😂 Also a good point on buying a little lager head or intake for down the road you might wanta just up to a 347 or boost later on 😊
Let’s say I can find GT40 heads and intake for $700, is it worth it to get the Anderson cam and run that combo for a couple years until I want to buy truck flow heads and intake?
Alright Foxcast..... I'm having a midlife crisis lol. I've been offered a 79 Pacecar that needs some work to be back together.... it would take me away from my racing hobby for a bit BUT would directly connect me with my son and his Love of Foxbodies (he has 2 of his own lol) What would you do? Lol lol
Talked to a guy with HCI, he wasn't happy with it. Stock throttle body and mass air, injectors, exhaust system, with automatic and stock rear end. No research or planning.
Is HCI worth it absolutely no need for anything else but as money allows you can gradually add to better take advantage of HCI but even without car will be faster and funner!
Where does everyone buy there parts been looking found one site but doesn’t sell the upgrades for my year stops at 84 and I have a 90 I’m starting a project with my son and I need interior and few odds and ends for exterior but I want to do a head cam intake upgrade but I want to find a site I can order everything instead of going to 30 different sites
how much is that stang at the beginning of the video putting out to the tires? and torque.. my 91 LX 5.0 Coupe, SVT Chip, stock heads and Cam, Explorer intake ,1 5/8th long tubes and flow master mufflers , Mac hi flow H pipe with cats and 3 inch tails, 76 mm mass air 75 mm TB just going from 3.55 to 4.10 gears with my z-Spec it feels like i picked up 50 horse with Nitto NT 555 R2 245 55 16 on stock Ponies on the rear it grabs the road like is on glue. just goes no wheel spin at all on 1st gear launch, I can how ever chirp 2nd. with Mickeys ET Street S/S 255 50 16 i get no spin at all with 1st gear launch it just gets up and goes, no chirping 2nd either. Mickeys Thompson Tires Rule the Street.
What’s your opinion on using the x cam with hci. I hardly ever hear anything about it. Always the b cam. The lsa is tight and lift is good and revs high but nobody talking about it. You work with this so wondering if you have any experience good or bad. Would help me out thank you
@FoxcastMedia I put together a stock bottom end 302 with junkyard gt40p heads Anderson n41 cam 1.6 rockers ford motorsport single plan intake 1in spacer 650 double pumper I have a set of ford racing x303 aluminum 1.94/1.60 heads just sitting here on the shelf you think I should replace the gt40p with the x303 heads ?
The hci set up i got my 87 Gt years ago is trick flow track heat intake trickflow 185 cnc heads ( which I believe are unavailable from trickflow now ) comp cams xe 270 cam and 1.6 rockers
maybe it's explained and i missed it, but does the basic subscription (supporter) get me in the drawing for this car? also, are those the only 2 ways to be entered? the "supporter" and the "ultimate"? thanks
Aftermarket SBF parts are getting so expensive that you may as well go for a coyote swap. The good name brand HCI is about $4,000 and you still need a bunch of supporting parts. Some parts can be bought used to save money but it does come with risk ,unless you get them from someone you know.
Lol Not sure what planet you live on but it cost me 5k 30 years ago. Tfs street heat head's . Intake . Cam . Rockers. TB. MAF . With stage 1 touch up match porting. With me doing the build. So if you're saying 4k 30 years later. In my book . That cheap as hell. All things considering . Plus if you look for all that used . You can get it cheaper . Lolol
I coyote swapped my hatch and it cost me close to 18k to do it properly without a built motor. Even at 6k for HCI thats a third the price of a coyote for most people.
I understand that the cost of building an SBF to achieve coyote power levels needs to be taken into account. I'm assuming that your estimate of $18k includes a transmission. However, how long do you think a T-5 transmission will last behind an SBF with 400HP? This is what I meant by "supporting parts". A 400HP SBF requires everything from an exhaust system, fuel injectors, Roller rockers, pushrods, taller valve covers, mass air meter, throttle body, MSD, ignition parts, and a new clutch or stall converter. The cost of these parts adds up quickly. @GamingwithIinfected
Tell me about it. One of my buddies passed away and I can’t look at a red fox or a red 65/66 coupe without bringing memories I don’t want. Been over a year
That’s kinda natural, as people move on hobby-wise and as the cars become older, or even left in the dust…pun intended. But I don’t think these cars are going anywhere for a while.
Just to see how back in the days this type of set up’s was beast, if you had it you were “fast” AF 😬… with most of the newer cars now (stock) will destroy a FBO fox. 😬
I can tell you from experience. Around town, city driving 4.10s aren't bad, fun even. Light to light they're a blast. If you do a lot of highway driving, not so much. Especially if you're still running a T5. 70 on the highway will be hummin. I have a set of 3.73 waiting to go in. Should still be decent off the line & better highway manners.
I am putting a basic 306, Performer (Not RPM) heads until I can buy some AFR 185, With a Performer RPM intake, a 600 Holley single feed, and either a E/B cam, or a TFS 1, with a tremec 3550 behind it. it is a 84. so carbed. And I have a rear end I built with 3.55's already setup. just have been rethinking, since this car is a fun car, not a cruiser. But I'm Not sure.@@TheBigred1781
You don't have to run a lower compression ratio if you run boost. That's just a myth. The technology is there, we have the fuels to handle 11 & 12:1, even 13:1 compression ratio.
Nope it won't be worth it doing it on a 302. You'll still get beaten by the latest Toyota Avalon😂 go bigger 331+ or if you're cheap go LS swap with bigger gains.
Either way, it’s a rabbit hole on these cars that are 30 plus years old. Even though parts are clearly available, you will sink more into one than they are worth.
100%. I Did the trick flow track heat top end kit back in the mid 2000’s. Definitely woke it up!!
Yup, for the money, you can't beat em!
Had a 91 Mustang GT years ago, built a studded and girdled 331ci, Trickflow Heads, Intake, B-Cam, 24lb injectors, Cobra MAF, tuned, high flow cats, 3.55 gears, 5-speed, put out 387hp at rear wheels, wish I would have kept it, was a fun car.
Yes, it's worth it. Also, a heads/cam/intake car absolutely does not need a Holley Terminator X. These cars have been running around for 3 decades without it. Plenty of people have gone plenty fast on the factory EFI, including speed density.
I wasn't super happy with my budget h/c/I. But with the on3 kit I'm happy as sh&# now.
Turbos make me happy too! lol
Would you skip the heads cam and intake and do the on3 kit first?
I'd like to see a stock 5.0 on just an on3 kit. Also when I put the heads on my car I didn't realize I was gonna lose a little compression. Which is much better for boost.
These cars run like a mofo with the right hci combo even on a 302. A lot of people just need to spend the time to do their research. Seen a lot of simple combos kill it on the street. Most important thing is to be realistic about your expectations and just have fun!
I'll bet heads, cam, intake jobs are the reason they sell so many stroker kits 😊. It's a vicious addiction! 😅
The slippery slop of horsepower is real!
I swear its worst than drugs because of how easy it is to spend it.
I got a stock 92 5.0 as my first fox. Second Fox i got a 93 with the full Trickflow top end kit and wow night and day. So much more fun.... Not gonna be out running much of anything that is coming out these days but its alot of fun and you can kick aome tires!!!!
Bro!! I know I’m late to watching this video but finally you got some good music in your videos! Not that the others are bad lol. I just like this one!!! I love these cars and I really enjoy watching your videos and I watch brew2l also and you guys know your stuff and I have learned so much from you guys and just wanted to say thanks bro!!!
Buy it because your son will have life time if memories
Facts
Happy woth my GT40s, B cam, Explorer set up for now. Runs good, males enough power to destroy the tires into third. Seems like everyone has the same build now. AFR, Systemax and a FTI cam.
I just like the reliability of an NA set up. I have an 89 GT that I’m looking to do an H/CI combo on. Probably going GT40 Upper/Lower intake, AFR heads and a E303 cam, that should really wake the car up especially with the 3.73 gears=). Great video my friend
Best mods on my 89 GT back in the day!! My baby had GT 40 Y303 heads 1-70 rollers GT40 upper n lower intake, 65mm intake, stock cam,, but that was all I needed to get me past those LT1 Z28 at the track n on the streets!! Oh 355 gears ⚙️ best money 💴 spent!!❤️❤️
Lets be honest...these cars are a hole you pour $$$ into. I agree with what you say, but my gt40 head, explorer intake/TB/MAF, B cam coupe, while no world beater, will have to work for now. Gives me just enough performance to fuel dreams!
All most definitely worth it you must not have drove a stock one in a while😂 Also a good point on buying a little lager head or intake for down the road you might wanta just up to a 347 or boost later on 😊
was running low 14s high 13s... HCI ... 12.20s ... 150 dry shot on top.. 11.20s clutch slipping lol..
Decades ago my dash "brake" light meant the nitrous was on. 😁
I've got 24lb Excell injectors and they hit hard, I'm loving the performance
It's never enough you gonna always want more
Facts buddy!
So true lol. I went from intake exhaust to H/C/I to vortech on 10lbs. Now I want a 408w stroker 😂
I've got twisted wedge 170 heads on mine, each time I hammer little bit more I'm shocked it pulls hard
I dont guess you did a dino before and after and can share the hp/torque? Thanks for your videos.
Dash Light said "Check Brakes" LOL as he was in the middle of shifting
Let’s say I can find GT40 heads and intake for $700, is it worth it to get the Anderson cam and run that combo for a couple years until I want to buy truck flow heads and intake?
Alright Foxcast..... I'm having a midlife crisis lol. I've been offered a 79 Pacecar that needs some work to be back together.... it would take me away from my racing hobby for a bit BUT would directly connect me with my son and his Love of Foxbodies (he has 2 of his own lol)
What would you do? Lol lol
Work with your son family is #1
@timezone4907 yeah, it didn't take thinking on that one to long to realize how stupid I sounded.... I got the Pace Car. Lol lol
@@DriftyBitslooks like I got you back into a fox body
If it helps you bond with your son, thats a no brainer for me!
@@FoxcastMedia yeah that was kinda a dumb thought that exited my brain cavity. 😆 lol
I would like to know what your honest opinion and thoughts are with gear to gear timing on a fox body
Damn that thing sounds good.
Talked to a guy with HCI, he wasn't happy with it. Stock throttle body and mass air, injectors, exhaust system, with automatic and stock rear end. No research or planning.
Great video!
Thank you sir!
Awesome content thanks caleb
What’s better a trick flow manifold or a elderbrock
That cat SOUNDS KILLER. What do you have for exhaust and mufflers?
Is HCI worth it absolutely no need for anything else but as money allows you can gradually add to better take advantage of HCI but even without car will be faster and funner!
Where does everyone buy there parts been looking found one site but doesn’t sell the upgrades for my year stops at 84 and I have a 90 I’m starting a project with my son and I need interior and few odds and ends for exterior but I want to do a head cam intake upgrade but I want to find a site I can order everything instead of going to 30 different sites
That thing sounds great
My 90 gt with all the popular bolt ons is plenty for me,oh and my torque boxes are straight😂
It's worth the fun 🤷♂️
100%
how much is that stang at the beginning of the video putting out to the tires? and torque.. my 91 LX 5.0 Coupe, SVT Chip, stock heads and Cam, Explorer intake ,1 5/8th long tubes and flow master mufflers , Mac hi flow H pipe with cats and 3 inch tails, 76 mm mass air 75 mm TB just going from 3.55 to 4.10 gears with my z-Spec it feels like i picked up 50 horse with Nitto NT 555 R2 245 55 16 on stock Ponies on the rear it grabs the road like is on glue. just goes no wheel spin at all on 1st gear launch, I can how ever chirp 2nd. with Mickeys ET Street S/S 255 50 16 i get no spin at all with 1st gear launch it just gets up and goes, no chirping 2nd either. Mickeys Thompson Tires Rule the Street.
So what does this combo make to the wheels?
What’s your opinion on using the x cam with hci. I hardly ever hear anything about it. Always the b cam. The lsa is tight and lift is good and revs high but nobody talking about it. You work with this so wondering if you have any experience good or bad. Would help me out thank you
What size injectors and fuel pump are you running in this car?
@FoxcastMedia I put together a stock bottom end 302 with junkyard gt40p heads Anderson n41 cam 1.6 rockers ford motorsport single plan intake 1in spacer 650 double pumper I have a set of ford racing x303 aluminum 1.94/1.60 heads just sitting here on the shelf you think I should replace the gt40p with the x303 heads ?
This car sound awesome. What mufflers are on it
I have a genuine question, is supercharging without aftermarket intake and heads a good idea?
Can you get by without the terminator x?
you need some way of tuning
You can, but the car will hunt/surge/stall
any cheaper/ easier tuning options?@@FoxcastMedia
So how do you get to enter the giveaway stuff
Awesome video, 💯
The hci set up i got my 87 Gt years ago is trick flow track heat intake trickflow 185 cnc heads ( which I believe are unavailable from trickflow now ) comp cams xe 270 cam and 1.6 rockers
Yes it was worth it
maybe it's explained and i missed it, but does the basic subscription (supporter) get me in the drawing for this car? also, are those the only 2 ways to be entered? the "supporter" and the "ultimate"? thanks
I live in San Diego and have to use smog legal stuff 😢
Aftermarket SBF parts are getting so expensive that you may as well go for a coyote swap. The good name brand HCI is about $4,000 and you still need a bunch of supporting parts. Some parts can be bought used to save money but it does come with risk ,unless you get them from someone you know.
Lol
Not sure what planet you live on but it cost me 5k 30 years ago. Tfs street heat head's . Intake . Cam . Rockers. TB. MAF . With stage 1 touch up match porting. With me doing the build.
So if you're saying 4k 30 years later. In my book . That cheap as hell. All things considering . Plus if you look for all that used . You can get it cheaper .
Lolol
You should read what I wrote again. I never said it only cost $4000.
I coyote swapped my hatch and it cost me close to 18k to do it properly without a built motor. Even at 6k for HCI thats a third the price of a coyote for most people.
I understand that the cost of building an SBF to achieve coyote power levels needs to be taken into account. I'm assuming that your estimate of $18k includes a transmission. However, how long do you think a T-5 transmission will last behind an SBF with 400HP? This is what I meant by "supporting parts". A 400HP SBF requires everything from an exhaust system, fuel injectors, Roller rockers, pushrods, taller valve covers, mass air meter, throttle body, MSD, ignition parts, and a new clutch or stall converter. The cost of these parts adds up quickly. @GamingwithIinfected
Less and less people and friends to enjoy the foxbody hobby with as time goes by. Sux
We out here buddy
Tell me about it. One of my buddies passed away and I can’t look at a red fox or a red 65/66 coupe without bringing memories I don’t want. Been over a year
That’s kinda natural, as people move on hobby-wise and as the cars become older, or even left in the dust…pun intended. But I don’t think these cars are going anywhere for a while.
❤Thank you for sharing God bless you
I wish you would dyno this combo
Just to see how back in the days this type of set up’s was beast, if you had it you were “fast” AF 😬… with most of the newer cars now (stock) will destroy a FBO fox. 😬
Technology.
will the seat belt be functional at giveaway? lol
It will now if I buckle it
Foxcast, Are 4.10's bad for driving? what is rpm in a 5 spd at 70?
I can tell you from experience. Around town, city driving 4.10s aren't bad, fun even. Light to light they're a blast. If you do a lot of highway driving, not so much. Especially if you're still running a T5. 70 on the highway will be hummin. I have a set of 3.73 waiting to go in. Should still be decent off the line & better highway manners.
I am putting a basic 306, Performer (Not RPM) heads until I can buy some AFR 185, With a Performer RPM intake, a 600 Holley single feed, and either a E/B cam, or a TFS 1, with a tremec 3550 behind it. it is a 84. so carbed. And I have a rear end I built with 3.55's already setup. just have been rethinking, since this car is a fun car, not a cruiser. But I'm Not sure.@@TheBigred1781
All depends, for a lot of highway driving they aren't great. All depends on what you can tolerate. For city driving, I would do em all day long
What's humming? My 71 Torino does 3500 at 65, with 3.70's...thats hummin@@TheBigred1781
I have 4.10s with a T5 and 18"wheels @70mph I'm about 2800rpm!!
You don't have to run a lower compression ratio if you run boost. That's just a myth. The technology is there, we have the fuels to handle 11 & 12:1, even 13:1 compression ratio.
I like that.
How much are batteries?
The Eluminator electric motor is $4,340
I don't think EV is the answer, but it be a cool project car.
That’s funny
That music necessary, nope
Ant tips on how to get an old head to tell tips these jokers round here tight lips😅
no seatbelt, shoulder harness, mmmmmm not a good look
Nope it won't be worth it doing it on a 302. You'll still get beaten by the latest Toyota Avalon😂 go bigger 331+ or if you're cheap go LS swap with bigger gains.
Not worth the money, do a coyote swap.
Either way, it’s a rabbit hole on these cars that are 30 plus years old. Even though parts are clearly available, you will sink more into one than they are worth.
Horrible music. Good video though.