Gedan Barai is AWESOME! I love it. It's all about extreme close quarters. If you are practicing your applications from mid to long range all you can really do is block kicks, Karate is all about extreme close range. Actually all real fighting is close range, sports is long range.
Bruno I love that word! WOW- Bunkai is like crystallization, from one single starting point the pattern expands out in 360 degrees in a random fashion, adapting to the conditions it meets and thus following the path of least resistance never recreating the same pattern twice. Your choice of this word is brilliant. You are a true wordsmith!
Apparently another use of Gedan Barai is making my jaw drop across the Internet. Thanks again for sharing, this is material that would be considered "closed door" curriculum in many circles!
I have to add that Rob is a Karate-Saint for he lets me inflict endless amounts of atrocities. He is sacrificing his body for Karate education word-wide. Rob I cannot thank you enough! Domo Arigato Mr. ROB-ato. (OK that sooo bad, but I could not resist).
I really enjoy studying these great techniques with Bunkai's staff members! Thanks a lot Sensei, for these self-defense tips! They really work! I assure you, Sensei!
Thanks. I learned from my Sensei (Tim Rodgers) that at some point you have to do your "payback", meaning you have to give back to Karate for all it has given to you. This is a small way for me to exercise my payback. I also teach for free, like most of us I have a daytime job. I do it because I need to, I could not think of a life without Karate. Im not really teaching Karate here, everyone needs to develop how to do what I am demonstrating, I am just sharing ideas, concepts and principles.
I can tell you that it does work. It is one of my favorite applications for gedan barai. It works even better against grabs to the upper body (collar, shoulder, etc.). Then you can fixate the opponent's hand, counter-grab, while shifting your body weight back to pull the opponent, forcing him to put his weight on his front foot or even doing a step. You also provoke a resistance against your pull, making the enemy pulling back - then just step in or twist with gedan barai as shown. A sure shot!
I remember my first Japanese instructor telling us not to think of them as blocks but intercepting strikes. Again thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge this should be compiled in a DVD or Blu-ray, with special features like Rob's revenge gotta love that guy.
I can attest that it works and that simultaneous pull on the collar along with the barai is a hard take down! Sensei says not to do your partners work for them - if the uke anticipates the move and throws themselves down easily, neither of us are learning. You have to practice by reacting realistically (without bracing unrealistically against a move you know is coming), making your partner really disrupt your body, and not going down unless they take you down...
@Oneminutebunkai yes because you must step off of the center line to avoid the power of the kick or break your arm. Same as what you are showing. plus there are various versions like what you show.
Beautiful! I did Shotokan for a number of years in an JKA/ISKF club that tested under Mikami shihan. I eventually moved away from my dojo and, except for a few months, didn't have one to train at. I attained a 2nd kyu (brown belt) in the joint JKA/ISKF system, the last test was done before they split. I have been studying Aikido for the past 6 years, but I continue to incorporate Shotokan into it. My instructor encourages that, he's a very 'if it works then keep it' guy that has practiced - to a reasonable level - many arts. This is a fantastic combination of the two, I have names for a number of these from Aikido that are - to my knowledge - outside the named responses for Shotokan techniques. You have a distinct variation of ikkyo at 0:55 , a variation of the one of the shihonage opening moves (there are a lot of opening moves for it) at 1:00 , and a reversed irimi nage 1:04 . I've forgotten or never learned names for a few more.
There is so much overlap in all martial arts. One thing you now understand is that karate is not just punch, kick and strike, it is that plus, jujitsu, aikido, and fighting weapons. I'm so glad you have added Aikido to your repertoire for you now have the power of karate atemi and the gracefulness and fluidity of aikido. A great combination for now you are a better karate's because of aikido. And you are a better aikido because of your karate.
Awesome sir. Have you ever considered using the preparatory position of Gedan Barai as such: top fist "hits" the attacking punch, bottom hand strikes body, bottom hand grabs attacking arm, pulls to chamber, top hand drops elbow into shoulder, pull and take down...use reap to supplement, kind of like naihanchi. Jim Kerker, Issrhin Ryu out of Wisconsin/Iowa showed me that one.
Hey sensai its Victor. I use to have a google plus account but i know longer have one. Hope everything is well with you. Miss you guys n your teachings.
Sam, Yes I have played around with different options on the "prep" move. But here is an even more advanced concept- there really doesn't need to be a "prep" move. This ira of a "preparatory" is more of a modern karate thing used for teaching beginners. In real life you execute the technique from where ever you hands are the moment before. So I say there is no prep move, you just DO IT!
What you describe altho certainly applicable sounds to me more like an application for another technique which is the Gedan Juji Uke. My thought (and experience) is that all these blocks do not require the use of the other hand with a "preparatory position" this to me create the false illusion that in order for you to do something you must do something else before it. This robotic conditioning which has been hammered into us by styles that practice and work mechanically more so than in a realistic and fluid manner is something I try to undo and point out to people why it is not good. So I don't teach a "cocking" or "prep" I teach just do the thing you intend to do because you never have time to prepare to do something in the real world, you only have time to actually do it. But that does not mean that you cannot do exactly what you mentioned, but I would call it just using your other hand to punch the kick as an independent action as your other hand should be doing something anyway not just stuck and put away in the chambered position.
Actually my first love was Goju so I have a special place in my heart for it. I have been thinking of doing some Goju stuff but Goju bunkai is so ver well documented by others like Tom Hills (who is the bomb). I try to not beat the same dead horse, so unless I can come up with a different idea I stay away. But trust me that Goju is always close at hand. Much of my Shorin Ryu is also influenced by awesome Goju goodness. I am a mutt, a mutant, a freak, the poster child for cross training.
Lauren, I am an alumni of Sansei Gojuryu student of Shihan Saavedra. It was my first Karate study and I was with Sansei up to 1983 in Miami Florida. Who is your Sensei and where do you train? Glad to hear from a fellow Sansei sister!
Yes i ment Harai Uke, (very similar but which really is different teck to gedan barai in its execution and bunkai) , i was just interested if u could do any one min bunkai for Goju tecks, thank u sir!
I always appreciate your videos, they are very enlightening and exhaustive, but I have a doubt about this one. Don't you leave your head unprotected keeping both hands down when on the opponent's attack line? Wouldn't it be better to use the sedan barai to catch the leg while keeping one hand guarding the face? These questions are just out of curiosity and for no reason meant to lessen or degrade your job, which I really appreciate. Thanks. Osu!
There are always what "ifs" in any scenario, those fall into common sense and I don't have time to cover every possible thing here. A lot of it depends on the timing of things, the circumstances and what he was trying to do to you. And bottom line, if you did not cover your head and he got you then he got you. Combat is never clean and you will likely not get out of it without a scratch.
Oneminutebunkai Thanks for the reply. Of course combat is a risky practice for its own nature, nothing is clean and there is always the random factor involved. I just noticed that maybe this application is less safe than the others; for example I have loved and watched in loop at least 40 times the jodan uke's bunkai and the chudan uke. I am really satisfied of my subscription to your channel. Returning to the gedan barai's bunkai of this video, do you think that blocking and attacking almost in the same moment can give you good chanches not to get hit in the face?
How else is there unless it causes pain and cracks some bones? All these moves are not just what we have seen in the karate textbooks and simplistic applications that don't make sense. Karate means you become a demolition machine, you just hit and break stuff, you just have to determine how much "love" you want to give, sometimes some folks need all of your love, so don't deny them, give freely, it may keep you from becoming room temperature on day!
I must warn you not to go too low, you may hit your forehead on top of that table in front of you and I will be obliged have to send you the "Boink" sound effect for that technique!
Yikes that is the last thing I need is stardom, I'm just a harmless little fluffball quietly living in paradise. But I love Karate and love sharing what little I know. Seriously, Karate is one hit thinking. Don't make your Karate like a small bore .22 Short, upgrade your Karate to at least a HOT .44mag! Personally I love the .50cal. Now that REALLY means, "one strike" and it's Miller Time!. Hmmm? This is what you should strive for. Always go to war with BIG Guns, leave BB gun at home for Jr.
Are you kidding, Damn straight it will work, I knocked the crap out of poor Rob, I did not realize how hard he came down and I was honestly trying to be gentle cause we have no mats. Remember I already broke some ribs with the punch, and I grabbed his collar (handfull of hair will do too) he is being pulled down aggressively with the Gedan barai which is as effective as an ashi barai. You try it and tell me please how it went. No drama in 1MB, if it don't work you will not see it here.
There you go, is a block defensive? It should not be, unless you hit like a little girl (or boy) A block doesn't care what it hits, its job is to break things.
I hear you. All this stuff is really just common sense. Like giving you a baseball bat and saying "hit stuff hard", use the but ends, the center, and swing it traditionally. The only thing that is really closed, are practitioners "imaginations" my goal is to show that karate is more practical than meets the eye. We have been programmed to not think for ourselves by asian culture's "quietness" and rigid norms. Experiment-Discover, that's what I do, anyone can. Cheers!
NO don't get it like mine, get it much lower. Mine is all banged up on the edges from the many times I have bashed my skull into it. Good thing I have a hard head otherwise I'd surely have Dain-Bramage by now!
And a word of warning: As I described, stepping in and pulling the opponent can already break his balance and make him fall, the front foot probably being the pivot point. If you sweep it with gedan barai, it is an instant fall, being very hard to do a proper breakfall. So please be careful and don't break your training partner!
Gedan Barai is AWESOME! I love it. It's all about extreme close quarters. If you are practicing your applications from mid to long range all you can really do is block kicks, Karate is all about extreme close range. Actually all real fighting is close range, sports is long range.
Bruno I love that word! WOW- Bunkai is like crystallization, from one single starting point the pattern expands out in 360 degrees in a random fashion, adapting to the conditions it meets and thus following the path of least resistance never recreating the same pattern twice. Your choice of this word is brilliant.
You are a true wordsmith!
Yes, very effective techniques!!!!
Apparently another use of Gedan Barai is making my jaw drop across the Internet. Thanks again for sharing, this is material that would be considered "closed door" curriculum in many circles!
This time of year it is WET, but I love it. Winter is coming and it will cool down and those marvelous trade winds make you feel alive!
I have to add that Rob is a Karate-Saint for he lets me inflict endless amounts of atrocities. He is sacrificing his body for Karate education word-wide. Rob I cannot thank you enough! Domo Arigato Mr. ROB-ato. (OK that sooo bad, but I could not resist).
I really enjoy studying these great techniques with Bunkai's staff members! Thanks a lot Sensei, for these self-defense tips! They really work! I assure you, Sensei!
Thanks. I learned from my Sensei (Tim Rodgers) that at some point you have to do your "payback", meaning you have to give back to Karate for all it has given to you. This is a small way for me to exercise my payback. I also teach for free, like most of us I have a daytime job. I do it because I need to, I could not think of a life without Karate. Im not really teaching Karate here, everyone needs to develop how to do what I am demonstrating, I am just sharing ideas, concepts and principles.
Yes it does, and it is one of the most logical bunkai for that move.
Well Said Mariano! Gedan Barai is something most take for granted, but there is so much to it.
Great applications.I enjoyed all of these.
I can tell you that it does work. It is one of my favorite applications for gedan barai. It works even better against grabs to the upper body (collar, shoulder, etc.). Then you can fixate the opponent's hand, counter-grab, while shifting your body weight back to pull the opponent, forcing him to put his weight on his front foot or even doing a step. You also provoke a resistance against your pull, making the enemy pulling back - then just step in or twist with gedan barai as shown. A sure shot!
I remember my first Japanese instructor telling us not to think of them as blocks but intercepting strikes. Again thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge this should be compiled in a DVD or Blu-ray, with special features like Rob's revenge gotta love that guy.
“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”
― Leonardo da Vinci...........Great video as usual.
I can attest that it works and that simultaneous pull on the collar along with the barai is a hard take down! Sensei says not to do your partners work for them - if the uke anticipates the move and throws themselves down easily, neither of us are learning. You have to practice by reacting realistically (without bracing unrealistically against a move you know is coming), making your partner really disrupt your body, and not going down unless they take you down...
Best one yet! Well done.
@Oneminutebunkai yes because you must step off of the center line to avoid the power of the kick or break your arm. Same as what you are showing. plus there are various versions like what you show.
I love all these videos
It's also a perfectly good example for the bunkai of the 'double block' after the crescent kick in meikyo kata (shotokan'ha ryu)
A good idea, my only hesitation is that there is so much already out there on throwing, but I could make it related to karate follow ups.
Beautiful! I did Shotokan for a number of years in an JKA/ISKF club that tested under Mikami shihan. I eventually moved away from my dojo and, except for a few months, didn't have one to train at. I attained a 2nd kyu (brown belt) in the joint JKA/ISKF system, the last test was done before they split.
I have been studying Aikido for the past 6 years, but I continue to incorporate Shotokan into it. My instructor encourages that, he's a very 'if it works then keep it' guy that has practiced - to a reasonable level - many arts.
This is a fantastic combination of the two, I have names for a number of these from Aikido that are - to my knowledge - outside the named responses for Shotokan techniques. You have a distinct variation of ikkyo at 0:55 , a variation of the one of the shihonage opening moves (there are a lot of opening moves for it) at 1:00 , and a reversed irimi nage 1:04 . I've forgotten or never learned names for a few more.
There is so much overlap in all martial arts. One thing you now understand is that karate is not just punch, kick and strike, it is that plus, jujitsu, aikido, and fighting weapons. I'm so glad you have added Aikido to your repertoire for you now have the power of karate atemi and the gracefulness and fluidity of aikido. A great combination for now you are a better karate's because of aikido. And you are a better aikido because of your karate.
Awesome as always.
Nice Angel Sensei. Very nice.
it is one of mine too. Do you practice Shotokan? If so take a look at the first move of Enpi.
love the wrist punch i do things like that myself whack to the inner elbow nerve is a motivator
Awesome sir. Have you ever considered using the preparatory position of Gedan Barai as such: top fist "hits" the attacking punch, bottom hand strikes body, bottom hand grabs attacking arm, pulls to chamber, top hand drops elbow into shoulder, pull and take down...use reap to supplement, kind of like naihanchi. Jim Kerker, Issrhin Ryu out of Wisconsin/Iowa showed me that one.
Hey sensai its Victor. I use to have a google plus account but i know longer have one. Hope everything is well with you. Miss you guys n your teachings.
What do you mean you cannot watch the videos?
Sam, Yes I have played around with different options on the "prep" move. But here is an even more advanced concept- there really doesn't need to be a "prep" move. This ira of a "preparatory" is more of a modern karate thing used for teaching beginners. In real life you execute the technique from where ever you hands are the moment before. So I say there is no prep move, you just DO IT!
Awesome thank you.
What you describe altho certainly applicable sounds to me more like an application for another technique which is the Gedan Juji Uke. My thought (and experience) is that all these blocks do not require the use of the other hand with a "preparatory position" this to me create the false illusion that in order for you to do something you must do something else before it. This robotic conditioning which has been hammered into us by styles that practice and work mechanically more so than in a realistic and fluid manner is something I try to undo and point out to people why it is not good. So I don't teach a "cocking" or "prep" I teach just do the thing you intend to do because you never have time to prepare to do something in the real world, you only have time to actually do it. But that does not mean that you cannot do exactly what you mentioned, but I would call it just using your other hand to punch the kick as an independent action as your other hand should be doing something anyway not just stuck and put away in the chambered position.
Actually my first love was Goju so I have a special place in my heart for it. I have been thinking of doing some Goju stuff but Goju bunkai is so ver well documented by others like Tom Hills (who is the bomb). I try to not beat the same dead horse, so unless I can come up with a different idea I stay away. But trust me that Goju is always close at hand. Much of my Shorin Ryu is also influenced by awesome Goju goodness. I am a mutt, a mutant, a freak, the poster child for cross training.
Lauren, I am an alumni of Sansei Gojuryu student of Shihan Saavedra. It was my first Karate study and I was with Sansei up to 1983 in Miami Florida. Who is your Sensei and where do you train? Glad to hear from a fellow Sansei sister!
You are right but in the end it all boils down to the same idea. Cool.
I can do this one for sure!
Yes i ment Harai Uke, (very similar but which really is different teck to gedan barai in its execution and bunkai) , i was just interested if u could do any one min bunkai for Goju tecks, thank u sir!
Thank You!
ouch! getting blocked right on the tendons and mucles.
thanks for showing some ways you can use a down block
thanks Oneminutebunkai
@Oneminutebunkai same,same but more circular like the ones performed in some Goju kata where the fist moves in a pendulum action vs straight
Aah, gedan barai. The first technique you learn, the last one you master.
Oh, and as always, excellent work 1MB :)
You should dedicate a series all about throws
@Oneminutebunkai Angel san yes same basic kanji with otoshi added.
Excellent! Thank you for sharing.
Now I'm really curious about your attempt in your dojo.
Do you mean Harai Uke? The word Harai aldo Barai means an arc sweeping motion. Japanese Goju uses it to describe Gedan Barai is this what you mean?
Juji uke marathon would be awesome!!! :D
Thank you Sir!
@deanpool some Japanes Goju kai-ha call it harai otoshi uke or swinging /circular dropping block
I always appreciate your videos, they are very enlightening and exhaustive, but I have a doubt about this one.
Don't you leave your head unprotected keeping both hands down when on the opponent's attack line?
Wouldn't it be better to use the sedan barai to catch the leg while keeping one hand guarding the face?
These questions are just out of curiosity and for no reason meant to lessen or degrade your job, which I really appreciate. Thanks.
Osu!
There are always what "ifs" in any scenario, those fall into common sense and I don't have time to cover every possible thing here. A lot of it depends on the timing of things, the circumstances and what he was trying to do to you. And bottom line, if you did not cover your head and he got you then he got you. Combat is never clean and you will likely not get out of it without a scratch.
Oneminutebunkai Thanks for the reply.
Of course combat is a risky practice for its own nature, nothing is clean and there is always the random factor involved. I just noticed that maybe this application is less safe than the others; for example I have loved and watched in loop at least 40 times the jodan uke's bunkai and the chudan uke. I am really satisfied of my subscription to your channel.
Returning to the gedan barai's bunkai of this video, do you think that blocking and attacking almost in the same moment can give you good chanches not to get hit in the face?
How else is there unless it causes pain and cracks some bones? All these moves are not just what we have seen in the karate textbooks and simplistic applications that don't make sense. Karate means you become a demolition machine, you just hit and break stuff, you just have to determine how much "love" you want to give, sometimes some folks need all of your love, so don't deny them, give freely, it may keep you from becoming room temperature on day!
I must warn you not to go too low, you may hit your forehead on top of that table in front of you and I will be obliged have to send you the "Boink" sound effect for that technique!
What style do you do Carolyn?
Aha... I had not thought of that!
As always extreme caution must be taken, unlike what I do to poor Rob.
Okay, WE did ask for it - but did your uke too ?
Yikes that is the last thing I need is stardom, I'm just a harmless little fluffball quietly living in paradise. But I love Karate and love sharing what little I know. Seriously, Karate is one hit thinking. Don't make your Karate like a small bore .22 Short, upgrade your Karate to at least a HOT .44mag! Personally I love the .50cal. Now that REALLY means, "one strike" and it's Miller Time!. Hmmm? This is what you should strive for. Always go to war with BIG Guns, leave BB gun at home for Jr.
Lauren, don't limit your thinking to just Taikyoku, any Gedan Barai will do from any Kata. Look at Seiunshin plenty of Barais there.
Awesome.
His question sounded like it is a different technique, its just a Gedan Barai so there is no difference.
Are you kidding, Damn straight it will work, I knocked the crap out of poor Rob, I did not realize how hard he came down and I was honestly trying to be gentle cause we have no mats. Remember I already broke some ribs with the punch, and I grabbed his collar (handfull of hair will do too) he is being pulled down aggressively with the Gedan barai which is as effective as an ashi barai. You try it and tell me please how it went. No drama in 1MB, if it don't work you will not see it here.
Doesn't 1:10 look like shotokan's empi initial movement? Awesome!
There you go, is a block defensive? It should not be, unless you hit like a little girl (or boy) A block doesn't care what it hits, its job is to break things.
I minute or so, well spent, as always !
Thanks for posting, keep 'em coming.
osu
I hear you. All this stuff is really just common sense. Like giving you a baseball bat and saying "hit stuff hard", use the but ends, the center, and swing it traditionally. The only thing that is really closed, are practitioners "imaginations" my goal is to show that karate is more practical than meets the eye. We have been programmed to not think for ourselves by asian culture's "quietness" and rigid norms. Experiment-Discover, that's what I do, anyone can. Cheers!
how about some Hara uke pls? (not sure of the spelling)
Karatê é a melhor arte marcial
If you cant get in in a minute or so, I have not done my job.
Yes. But what I mean it is the same technique so I am unclear as to the need for a bunkai video beyond this one.
NO don't get it like mine, get it much lower. Mine is all banged up on the edges from the many times I have bashed my skull into it. Good thing I have a hard head otherwise I'd surely have Dain-Bramage by now!
And a word of warning: As I described, stepping in and pulling the opponent can already break his balance and make him fall, the front foot probably being the pivot point. If you sweep it with gedan barai, it is an instant fall, being very hard to do a proper breakfall. So please be careful and don't break your training partner!
Yes but still it is a barai, bunkai is virtually the same.
YES
Oss!!
Wow! : D
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first it's all about karate bunkai not just judo throws, then you could personalize it by your own :-)
Your integral approach is fantastic. Very very far from the Japanese crystallization.
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