The Rise and Fall of Arsen Liliev
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Arsen Liliev had a meteoric rise in the arm wrestling tournament scene and is multiple european and world champion. He became known for his incredible arm size and powerfully quick armwrestling. He is however, also known for quite a number of controversies.
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Chapters:
00:00 Arsen Liliev
00:45 A Prodigy is Born
03:42 Seeing Double
05:08 A Meteoric Rise
10:30 Tested and Banned
12:23 Pure Armwrestling Embodied 
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I'm going to be honest, I knew very little going in to this video. However, early during my research, I realized Arsen's career in arm wrestling is amongst the most interesting I have looked at so far.
Let me know what you think of the Russian "Shrek" and this video.
One hand pull ups with no shoulder in... that's insane feat of strength!
Steroids. No not impressive
If I remember correctly he even did it with a dumbbell in the other hand. The video of Arsen and Janis doing one arm pullups is somewhere on RUclips
Bro single-handedly caused Arsen to come out of retirement 🤯
Probably my favorite armwrestler of all time. His top roll was absolutely legendary. Thank you for this awesome vid!
You're very welcome.
Sending in your buddy for the weigh in sounds like a pro gamer move. Really good video Mr. Historian!
I appreciate it Mr. Analyzer! Honestly, I kind of love the audacity.
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying 😄
which only means you're a piece of shite if you do that for your own personal gain against the livelihood of others ,not even homeless person worthy on your side :D@@TimmyTurner421
I love this series. They are very informative and I get to learn about some of the greats from the past. Thanks for your hard work AH.
It's my pleasure, Medieval!
My dream match along with prime denis vs levan is prime Arsen vs Prudnyk
Amazing fantasy matchups
People often ask me who my favorite of all time is. I always say Arsen! In the beginning when I first started pulling I tried to find someone similar style to mine. Needles to say Arsen truly helped motivate me to train myself harder. I’m very excited for his comeback!!
You’re playing with fire publishing this video my friend.
What fire tell me more?
How so?
@@armhistorian It was just a joke, his name sounds like arson, which is the type of crime when you set fire to things.
@@generationfitness8451 Haha! I didn't get that but it's funny.
I thought the Russian mob would put a hit out on me or something.
Thank you Arm Historian ! I didn't know about his story except that we are starting to hear about him again these days as he would potentially come back and was a great Armwrestler.
You're very welcome! I also enjoyed learning more about him during the making of the episode. Quite the character and looking forward to his return.
Awesome video as always man 💪😎 i dont know much about him so was a good educational video for me. Hes one of those little big guys like sasho lol. Beating Bagent, Toddzilla and Brzenk is a pretty decent resume lol. A drama controversy puller us what we like haha
He does come over as quite compact, yea. A lot of muscle packed in. And yea, a little bit of dramatic controversies never hurt anyone, right?
Great work bud
Love the videos
Appreciate that a lot!
I'm scared that one day you will run out of rise and fall subjects as they will all have been covered and rise and fall will be over! Hopefully that day NEVER comes! Thanks as always. MB.
🤣🤣It might happen. But by the rate I make these episodes, won't be for a long time. Thanks for the continued support, Muscle!
will only happen if you only care about he top 10-15 guys of all time. theres hundreds and thousands you could do videos on if you take thetime.@@armhistorian
We need one on dmitry trubin, his rise and fall is nearly if not more interesting than arsens
Great suggestion. He was plagued by injuries and completely vanished
For sure one of the all-time greats especially pound for pound. His resume of high caliber armwrestlers he beat in his era is amazing. If we had a time machine and brought prime Arsen to the new era I think he would beat everyone in the 105kg division including Ongarbaev, Dadikyan, Prudnik and Toddzilla. Arsen Liliev was an absolutely special athlete
not prudnik..prudnik is A LEVEL HEAD OF THE OTHER PULLERS YOU MENTIONED...NOT LILLIEV OFC ...IT WILL BE A GREAT MATCH..
@@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii3551 Are you sure? ruclips.net/video/bAt848Dp3C0/видео.html
His career is way too short to be considered all time great imo... but lets see if he comes back and dominates for some years. Not sure if his health can withstand the same level of commitment as earlier though
@@henry.bowerslol He's not coming back.
شكرا ❤
Trubin is a perfect candidate for rise and fall I think.
arsen my idol thanks for make thi video❤
You're welcome. I think he's a great athlete!
@@armhistorian yess he is legend in my oppinion one of the best anf fast puller hess era my inspiration
First, another great video bro 😍
Lightning fast.
Could you make a video on the Zoloevs? What a cool story, I didn't know they were related
I'd love to. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@armhistorian I thank you for the great videos, keep them coming.
Arsen was literally smaller levan
What’s the name of the song at the beginning of the video?
Just Dance by Patrick Patrikios
Quality is higher than vitaly
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would you guys more love if nicest arm wrestling promotions at the moment like EvW and KOTT start banning ped use?
Would th be better? or you guys current way of the sport?
Just curious to see thy community ' opinion :)
Good stuff. Do u find all this info by asking Liliev personally?
Thanks AWF! I do usually contact my "subjects" but don't always. In this case I just did a lot of research. I do have some tricks up my sleeve and people I contact on a regular basis.
Neil Pickup, Eric Roussin and Paul Linn have all helped a great deal with a lot of episodes.
@@armhistorianAwesome 👌
We are waiting for a Rise and fall video about Dimitry Trubin!
the fastest toproller ever
He was reaching p4p strength of gods
Arm historian, whenever addressing an athlete's PED use and having their super jacked picture up, please add in a Joe Rogan clip saying "saucy". 😆
arsen is coming back in april guys engin said it
sucks there are so few reputable arm wrestlers in pro arm wrestling. Why even care about ANY of their accomplishments? I was less interested the more it was apparent how much gear he was on
He’s pulling on April 20th 2024 at east vs west 🎉
10:53 🇬🇪
The only guy who could defeat prime Arsen in same weight class is prime Krasimir. I don't even think John could take him maybe prime john could have who knows
Saw that match. Krasimar is a beast that time. John couldn’t beat that version of krasimar too.
Current Krasimir past his prime is still winning European titles but in his prime he was an absolute beast. His match with Trubin was awesome too! 💪💪
John is better than Krasimir and Arsen
@@NgannouSix9 yet he lost to both
@@godabhi8599 Not john prime
Bro took too much drugs at once and had to go into 20 years hiatus...
Enhanced athletes cannot maintain longevity.
why people had to mention that denis fought pushkar before losing to arsen, or that he fought chaffee before losing to pushkar in 2014, then we are going to need to talk about that denis fought and underweight with health issues devin in 2018 on the less competitive arm, that most most important opponents that denis faced, he faced them none on their primes (john out of prime, even alexis first time he fought john, brzenk was already 40 years old, and 40 years old back them are not 40 years old now with stem cells and shit) chaffe was not in his prime, he sais he was in his prime against levan, so, denis struggled against a weaker version of dave, devons prime started when he showed up with 300 pounds against michael todd, and most of them if not all of them were way lighter than him, even on devon vs denis last match that devon won 5-0, that was a heavier devon than denis ever faced and the smallest denis that devon ever faced, denis was still a lot heavier than devon.
When was Dave's prime then also tell me where can I find a video of Dave telling when was his prime
5:29 "geared" indeed! Haha 💉 💪
Call it a Freudian slip.
...steroids like a madman, same as cyplenkov or levan, their fate is inevitable.
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Jucy controversy haha bro
So juicy
I don't think Arsen had a fall in his career title should be Rise and Retire
Unfortunately that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
@@armhistorian yeah it's a series I get it
@@godabhi8599 I added disclaimers to several of the Rise and Fall episodes about what I mean when I say that.
Maybe I should consider adding it to every episode.
@armhistorian a lot of armwrestlers' careers, actually fell for example Matt, krasimir etc. In those cases their is no need to clarify. You might wanna add disclaimers for cases like Arsen, Gary, Richard, etc, those guys either left or retired at or near the top
@@godabhi8599Krasimir lost some supermatches but if you keep track of his career you will notice that he still does really well in drug tested events like EAF, WAF and won multiple titles and medals in recent years. This year Krasi beat Basho Saginashvili and Kydyrgali Ongarbaev in WAF.
Dophead 🤡🙈
Arsen gets alot of shit from armwrestling fans because he was a known steroid user, ...like he's the only one that does it 😑
Yea, he's certainly not the only one! I only spent a relatively short time covering his ped use, as there is so much more to this athlete.
That being said, I do think it was instrumental to why he eventually left the sport.
Bruh it's literally hard to find someone who's not abusing steroids at top those guys are just jealous
shite for saying he was competing naturally in a tested league that is supposed to be BY HONOR ALL NATURAL. of course hes going to catch LEGETIMATE FLAK for being a piece of shite during these times of his career!
also, more people doing it only makes arm wrestling look like WORSE of a sport in sportsmanship and respect. its disgusting. i watch these to learn who not to follow :D
Lol yeah literally all was juicing bagent, larratt, mask, pushkar, etc. 😅
he cheated with the doppleganger as well, mutiple time cheater. not a legend