The music industry did this to a very young Michael Jackson. They didn't like his voice was changing, so an older Michael performed live. He lip synched a younger self. Live! Lol
It wasn’t that they were lip syncing, the voices belonged to two different people. This was about the industry using these young men and when they got caught the industry threw them to the wolves. Fans turned on them but the fans blamed the wrong people.
Frank Farian should've seriously been sued big. He was the creator of the deception and he should seriously be ashamed of what he did. He ruined the lifes of Rob and Fab and he betrayed the actual singers of the group and they wanted to be famous themselves. Not only that he swindled money from the fans and betrayed them so badly. Farian seriously deserves no honor and no respect for what he did and he's the one who should be owing money.
Why? In the original European album, neither Rob nor Fab were credited as vocalists. It was the American album that had them credited as vocalists, so although Frank Fabian created them, it wasn't something that hadn't been done before by him and others in European soil: aka hiring models as front runners, being the face of groups while they were not singing. From this point of view it was the American label at fault plus the boys who probably thought it was a way to get out of the reach of Frank and they all made the American LP which had them credited as vocalists, and it was also the american label that promoted them to the Grammys and the boys accepted to go and lipsync during the live show, while the grammys are always live, paying thousands if not millions of dollars to cover their fraud. Frank didn't have any part in that and actually didn't want any of that.
Thank you. We fell in love with them for their beauty. These guys were cute, could dance, and had taste. They are the reason we love these songs. I love them
Come on, people, had Shaw and Davis gone on stage to sing those songs themselves they wouldn't have made nearly the impact Rob and Fab did. Rob and Fab were the faces, the dance, the whole kitten caboodle that gave life to those songs! Their performances were spectacular in video and on stage. I attended one of their concerts here in Fort Wayne, Indiana and even though we had the nosebleed seats, it was amazing! Watching Rob and Fab move about the stage was magical and an honor to breathe the same air they were exhaling. When the truth came out, I didn't have one ounce of dislike for this dynamic duo who brought those songs to life. RIP Rob. You keep up the great work, Fab. 💙💜
That might be true but fraud is fraud no matter how you look at it. I'm skeptical of most mainstream artists today because the entertainment industry has shown that in the past, they will lie to the public to make money.
I couldn't agree more! Those two guys sold those songs even if it wasn't their voices. They're the reason the songs went to the top of the charts. Frank Farian took advantage of two naive young men and exploited them.
We're tired of this story. This had been happening all the time in the music and film industry where actors use doubles for scenes they can't play or refuse to do for whatever reason. The boys didn't refuse to sing. They weren't allowed to and it wasn't their idea. The stories should be focusing on the real brains behind the scam and stop blaming the two boys who in my opinion were the actual victims.
That would be an interesting listen but you know devils speak through puppets & refuse to comment when held to the fire they lash on everything else around them.
Exactly. Frank Farion hid behind his security and lawyers. Then, did it again with another group! But he's been forgiven and forgotten. It's been 30+ years. How about moving on to another story? Most singers today use auto tune. They can't even use their raw voices to lip sync to. Lol
@@ericeck because back then it was a huge deal. You had to get over on pure talent alone, and here in the 21st Century not so much. You obviously weren’t there, so of course you can’t understand.
@@ericeck - Lip synching is lip synching. What's the difference if you're lip synching your own voice or someone else's voice. If you can't actually sing the song, then you can't sing it. That's why people say it. Alot of talentless artists who look good go into a studio and have their tracks fixed to sound better than what they actually are. Might as well be lip synching someone else's voice. Milli Vanilli's success shows that people are more interested in what they are looking at rather than the music. Otherwise the original singers would have been stars long before Rob and Fab showed up. And we don't know who is lip synching who. You assume that Taylor Swift is lip synching Taylor Swift but you don't know. No one knows that on Bobby Brown's hit song Every Little Step, the vocals of the chorus change from Bobby Brown to Ralph Tresvant because Bobby Brown never showed up to finish the track? Lip synching is lip synching.
@@MyHandle4455 they were not at fault. They signed a contract and were promised actual singing on their albums. Frank later let them know that they could not sing any of the songs AFTER they were in the contract. They were scammed. It's not hard to understand. And it was not about going along with the plan, they were FORCED to do it because of the contract that was already signed. There was also no legal representation to protect their interests. So how is it still their fault? It's Frank's fault.
Nah, take your emotion out of it and you’ll realize what a crazy but genius project it was. Since technology has advanced to make horrible voices tolerable, milli vanilli style composites have become the template for industry music production. Overall it sucks and it’s plastic but people eat it up. Who do you think writes most of the hooks in modern R&B and rap? Some of the most iconic beats and fills in the history of “black music” were written by white producers. It’s a dirty little open secret. On the flip side their impact on the psyche of the public helped give alt rock/grunge momentum imo.
What I never understood is why they were hired by the original singers and then criticized by them after they won awards. Never thought that was right. Basically they were hired to do a job and was successful.
I enjoyed everything about them Rob and Fab were the epic beginning of my childhood I will never forget the summer of 89 I was dancing and singing and I couldn’t get enough of their videos as a tot poor guys what a tragic ending
I was in college when this happened. Many suspected they were a "studio band" from the start, and weren't "shocked" by the "scandal.". Milli Vanilli, along with other '80's bands, were displaced by grunge, rap and industrial music (Nirvana, NWA, Nine Inch Nails) almost overnight.
The title to this video is so fake. These guys were not imposters. They didn't fake anything. It was an agreement between the label, them and the voices behind the scene. They were handsome, had taste, could dance and act. Perfect for the roll. Everyone involved was aware. They were a team. They are milli Vanilli period.
It became a fraud when they were put as vocalists in the credits of the American version of their first album. The European version (which came first) didn't credit them as vocalists.
I totally agree. The singers that actually sung knew from the beginning that they were only using their voice. You signed up for it, so how are you made later down the line.
Their manager exposed them, he offered them 17 million to do another album, but they wanted their own voices heard. They refused and he exposed them, told to them by a friend who was their assistant.
I have never seen an artist skyrocket to the top like did in 89.They were so huge!!! If they had actually sang those songs they very well cold have changed the course of music history.
Jennifer Lopez been doing that for years using Ashanti's voice and any other person voice that's she can get away with, so leave Milli vanilli alone dang
And yet people act like she's the goat, plus the only reason she became famous in the first place was because of her role as Selena Quintanilla from that movie that came out 2 years after her death. If Selena was still alive, we probably wouldn't have Jlo.
I met them back in 91 during the club mtv tour with downtown Julie brown they were very laid back chill guys & yes they were destined to be music stars expecially rob he was very drivin & it's a shame how the music business treated these guys & rob never got a chance to experience his musical talent except on their rob n fab album which was a amazing job & they should have gotten credit were credit was due!!!
Before they were exposed, I always thought the voices just didn’t seem to match. Now Fab is performing their songs, and he actually have a really nice voice.
In Millie Vanille's defense, they were two young men trying to get into the music business. They got an opportunity and ran with it. This could've happened to anyone. These guys did what their management told them to do. Let's give these guys a pass.
I see your point, but I really don't think that this could've happen to anyone, aka that everybody that want to be i music business would take that shot. One thing is to sing other people's lyrics ect. but to not even sing on the recorded records is a whole other thing.. Just my opinion :)
If someone offered me $20,000 or more to lip sync..... Guess what? I am lip syncing my heart out! 😂 I will never blame these 2 for what they did. I blame the man who set this all up.
The vocal alone couldn't make it to those successes. Call them fraud, call them anything, without their charisma, without their images the album isn't going anywhere.
Who gives a damn if those guys wrote the songs or not ! the fact that they we're able to perform those songs with the dance moves they had to entertain people was hella Good !
@@MissLadyG99 - People were mad because they acted like they appreciated music but Milli Vanilli exposed them as fraudulent. People were mad because they wanted to imagine that their favorite singers were models with dreads and jeans, but found out that their favorite singers were middle aged, overweight men with slacks and jerry curls. LOL! So, who are the real frauds?
@@jasonito23 The real frauds are the masterminds behind stuff like this (aka those who thought it was a goog idea to create groups like an pull one over on the public). Milli Vanilli was based on a lie that didn't need to take place (Rob and Fab thought it was wrong but they were young had been manipulated into doing it). You can try and blame the people all you want but there is no justification for lying to the public.
They got caught because the original singers, that were even in the studio recording vocals for them, got jealous that MV got a Grammy and they did not.
They were brilliant performers and proved afterwards to also have good singing voices. I feel they were judged way too harshly compared to what some singers get up to today. They deserved all their awards.
I'm calling them frauds. FRAUDS. Y'see, "Because everyone else is doing it" (it's not everyone, it's the low-talent people you adore) is not an absolution. It's a pout that your idols got caught lying, and fooling you.
When they were getting abused as being too foreign, they'd lie and say Rob was born in New York and Fab would lie and say he was born in Miami. Rob's Bio-dad was from NY. And Fab did live in Miami for a while. It made them more "American." The media never corrects this stuff.
They were handsome energetic young guys who took a life changing opportunity. I dont think they are solely to blame. The producer orchestrated this. I think its sad they were villanized for this when people like JLO and others have been using other peoples voicces and getting away with it for years.
They should've taught the two background singers how to dance, and the singers should've taught Milli Vanilli how to sing. Then relaunch the group as a quartet.
Those two guys are as much the victims of the whole thing as us listeners. The real villain was Frank Farian. We've known this for years, it's time any social media mention of this particular scandal point the finger at the right villain. Frank Farian.
I got into a heated debate about these guys after I heard them speak. I told this guy there is no way they are singing. He must’ve thought I was a hater 😂. They were popular and the people loved them while it lasted. Crazy how long ago this happened. 😮
I'll never understand why it was such a big deal that they were lip syncing the live show? Do people not know that more than 95 percent of music artists do the very same thing with their own live shows? Look at Beyonce, spears, and many many more musicians!!!
I loved these guys. I’m sorry they received such terrible hate. The maker of this plan got off Scott free. That’s terrible. The way it normally goes though. Those with the cash get away with so much more than they should. Terrible the one died under such circumstances. After all that fame. My heart hurts. But Fab can definitely sing!
Como haya sido. Cada una de todas las canciones tienen un lado oscuro, pero en su tiempo o éxito marcó algo inolvidable en cada uno de nuestra juventud...
It was the fault of the original singers who approved of lending their voices and then because of jealousy they belittled the two guys. What did they get of it in the long run? NOTHING!!!! WORTHLESS JEALOUSY!!!
Oh, pkease. Everyone in the industry knew and didn't care until they got caught. Nowadays, nearly every artist uses autotune. They didn't deserve so much hate.
Because there manager signed them to an illegal contract The man was know to have his artists lip sync The record company could have stopped it when they found out and they didn't Watch behind the music milli vanillin or the new documentary on paramount+ Everybody who knew and didn't blow the whistle is complicit
Rob was born in Germany of an African American soldier stationed in Germany he never was born in New York. You can actually hear his German accent in interviews that’s why he and Fab(who’s from Guadeloupe, French Caribbean)vocals weren’t used.
The real milli vanilli is the combination of this 2 beautiful dancers and the hiding ugly singers at the back. If it happens that way then its not their fault but their manager. This guy can sing after all.
'You will always be criticized by someone doing less than you", standards of perfection we don't hold ourselves to, Illusion, Charisma, Looks, Dance, Stage Presence, I will always be a fan.
Frank Farian was the one to blame! People came down so hard on Rob and Fab but they wanted to sing…Frank wouldn’t let them. They keep saying biggest scandal in music history?? Which I feel is exaggerated…lots of scandals besides this and a lot other artists were lip syncing back then. Frank fooled everyone. Rob and Fab were very young at that time and sucked into it but the older people really singing played into it also…going along with it so wasn’t ALL Rob and Fab to blame. I blame Frank Farian
These kind of crappy news is just garbage RIP Rob.Fab Morvan is a person who has a great heart , he is no stranger and also is one of the only celebrity witch will not leave u alone and reply to your comment, he is a great singer and to prove it check out his concert that he is still performing tell this day and has greAt vocals and new music “ONE”
I still hav the MV album & the real MV album too. Both album are wonderful & I lov them. For me that duo Rob & Fab are great performer. This is not about only artist lies, but bigger issue is : marketing way of industty elites. We can see so many artist with autotunes nowadays. Today industty only sell performers. Today only few real artists. Even grammy winners are the same as billboard winners. Well, blame it on the producer. The music industry
That music producer set those guys up for embarrassment. They were bound to be found out sooner or later. I do believe those songs would have still done well had the guys been actually singing them. They had pretty good voices.
And guess what... Fab trained singing and is performing the old songs singing himself... and he does well... not a spectacular voice, but it sounds quite good.
Don’t care what anyone says…this GROUP was good for other reasons…they weren’t as bad as the greatest of them all BONEY M…..there’s your imposters!!!!……none of em sung at all……they could but they didn’t…..FACTS
Newbies dreaming of becoming famous.... Asked to lip sync? Who would turn that down? I don't blame them one bit. I blame the man that paid them and asked them to do this. These 2 were simply getting paid to do what the boss told them to do. Look at the music today! So much lip syncing going on. They did deserve more financially than what they got.
Good clip about Rob and Fab. You should make another one about how they were threatened and controlled by the record machine into keeping silent and how they got scammed, thinking they were going to be on the record.
I’m sure there is lots of artist who do this exact thing but they were the first ones to get caught
Jennifer Lopez, Britney spears
The music industry did this to a very young Michael Jackson. They didn't like his voice was changing, so an older Michael performed live. He lip synched a younger self. Live! Lol
It wasn’t that they were lip syncing, the voices belonged to two different people. This was about the industry using these young men and when they got caught the industry threw them to the wolves. Fans turned on them but the fans blamed the wrong people.
BoneyM did the same thing before but got away with it. BoneyM was also a Frank Farain project.
@ so true that guy in the band was so coked out all he could sing a note
Still one of the best in the 80s! A million times better than today’s acts!
Frank Farian should've seriously been sued big. He was the creator of the deception and he should seriously be ashamed of what he did. He ruined the lifes of Rob and Fab and he betrayed the actual singers of the group and they wanted to be famous themselves. Not only that he swindled money from the fans and betrayed them so badly. Farian seriously deserves no honor and no respect for what he did and he's the one who should be owing money.
Exactly 💯
Totally agree. he done something similar with Boney M. If I'm not mistaken Farian is the deep male voice and not that black dude.
@@cassiya100
Yes you are correct.
I found out about him tonight and I still won’t know him tomorrow..
Why? In the original European album, neither Rob nor Fab were credited as vocalists. It was the American album that had them credited as vocalists, so although Frank Fabian created them, it wasn't something that hadn't been done before by him and others in European soil: aka hiring models as front runners, being the face of groups while they were not singing. From this point of view it was the American label at fault plus the boys who probably thought it was a way to get out of the reach of Frank and they all made the American LP which had them credited as vocalists, and it was also the american label that promoted them to the Grammys and the boys accepted to go and lipsync during the live show, while the grammys are always live, paying thousands if not millions of dollars to cover their fraud. Frank didn't have any part in that and actually didn't want any of that.
They were adored by fans not just for the vocals but the image they portray ( fashion ) and their dancing capabilities.
why biggest fraud? The whole music industry is like that. They were just chosen to be the buh man.
Thank you. We fell in love with them for their beauty. These guys were cute, could dance, and had taste. They are the reason we love these songs. I love them
Whatever..
Vocals...
Still love them. Sad how they ended up.
Fab has since sung this song live and his real voice is amazing.
yes he is so good now, its sad they didn't give them any chances
Come on, people, had Shaw and Davis gone on stage to sing those songs themselves they wouldn't have made nearly the impact Rob and Fab did. Rob and Fab were the faces, the dance, the whole kitten caboodle that gave life to those songs! Their performances were spectacular in video and on stage. I attended one of their concerts here in Fort Wayne, Indiana and even though we had the nosebleed seats, it was amazing! Watching Rob and Fab move about the stage was magical and an honor to breathe the same air they were exhaling. When the truth came out, I didn't have one ounce of dislike for this dynamic duo who brought those songs to life. RIP Rob. You keep up the great work, Fab. 💙💜
I could not have said it better myself, your right on the money!!!
i agree
That might be true but fraud is fraud no matter how you look at it. I'm skeptical of most mainstream artists today because the entertainment industry has shown that in the past, they will lie to the public to make money.
maybe... with the right style and dance training maybe they could've
I couldn't agree more! Those two guys sold those songs even if it wasn't their voices. They're the reason the songs went to the top of the charts. Frank Farian took advantage of two naive young men and exploited them.
We're tired of this story. This had been happening all the time in the music and film industry where actors use doubles for scenes they can't play or refuse to do for whatever reason. The boys didn't refuse to sing. They weren't allowed to and it wasn't their idea. The stories should be focusing on the real brains behind the scam and stop blaming the two boys who in my opinion were the actual victims.
That would be an interesting listen but you know devils speak through puppets & refuse to comment when held to the fire they lash on everything else around them.
Exactly. Frank Farion hid behind his security and lawyers. Then, did it again with another group! But he's been forgiven and forgotten. It's been 30+ years. How about moving on to another story?
Most singers today use auto tune. They can't even use their raw voices to lip sync to. Lol
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What other band is hiding the real singers during concerts?
@@GotterVibez CC music factory was another...
Fab and Rob wasn't the impostors As some like to call them . They are victims of the producers who made of them fake cartoon stars
I didn't used to call them impostors. We used to call them pop hacks. LATER, we called them for the frauds they were.
And here we are over two decades into the 21st Century, and tons of acts lip sync and no one questions it.
ya right, i agree sir.
@@ericeck because back then it was a huge deal. You had to get over on pure talent alone, and here in the 21st Century not so much. You obviously weren’t there, so of course you can’t understand.
@@ericeck - Lip synching is lip synching. What's the difference if you're lip synching your own voice or someone else's voice. If you can't actually sing the song, then you can't sing it. That's why people say it. Alot of talentless artists who look good go into a studio and have their tracks fixed to sound better than what they actually are. Might as well be lip synching someone else's voice. Milli Vanilli's success shows that people are more interested in what they are looking at rather than the music. Otherwise the original singers would have been stars long before Rob and Fab showed up. And we don't know who is lip synching who. You assume that Taylor Swift is lip synching Taylor Swift but you don't know. No one knows that on Bobby Brown's hit song Every Little Step, the vocals of the chorus change from Bobby Brown to Ralph Tresvant because Bobby Brown never showed up to finish the track? Lip synching is lip synching.
JLo Can't even sing... At all... She's spent her entire career stealing voices and pretending it's her
It's time for JLOs spotlight
It's less about the lip syncing and more about them not singing a single word on their hit album.
They are not imposters and never were. They were scammed by a bully named FRANK FARIAN.
Exactly!
Nobody here would turn down thousands upon thousands of dollars to lip sync. That man that did this to them deserves all of the shame
They were culpable for their offenses. End of the day they went along with the lie. They didn’t have to but they did.
@@MyHandle4455 they were not at fault. They signed a contract and were promised actual singing on their albums. Frank later let them know that they could not sing any of the songs AFTER they were in the contract. They were scammed. It's not hard to understand. And it was not about going along with the plan, they were FORCED to do it because of the contract that was already signed. There was also no legal representation to protect their interests. So how is it still their fault? It's Frank's fault.
@@ericanicolebarton exactly 💯
AND the people who put them out there should've also been removed from recording. DISGRACE!!!
Nah, take your emotion out of it and you’ll realize what a crazy but genius project it was. Since technology has advanced to make horrible voices tolerable, milli vanilli style composites have become the template for industry music production. Overall it sucks and it’s plastic but people eat it up. Who do you think writes most of the hooks in modern R&B and rap? Some of the most iconic beats and fills in the history of “black music” were written by white producers. It’s a dirty little open secret. On the flip side their impact on the psyche of the public helped give alt rock/grunge momentum imo.
Yes, I agree all about the BENJAMIN'S 😅
What I never understood is why they were hired by the original singers and then criticized by them after they won awards. Never thought that was right. Basically they were hired to do a job and was successful.
They got jealous
Hired by the other guy
A lot of the strings were pulled by the record company and the producer. The singers were just happy to get paid.
They were not hired by the original singers.
I enjoyed everything about them Rob and Fab were the epic beginning of my childhood I will never forget the summer of 89 I was dancing and singing and I couldn’t get enough of their videos as a tot poor guys what a tragic ending
Crystal i agree with you !! those guys were good performers💯
They were as real as entertainment. Really do miss them.
I was in college when this happened. Many suspected they were a "studio band" from the start, and weren't "shocked" by the "scandal.". Milli Vanilli, along with other '80's bands, were displaced by grunge, rap and industrial music (Nirvana, NWA, Nine Inch Nails) almost overnight.
The title to this video is so fake. These guys were not imposters. They didn't fake anything. It was an agreement between the label, them and the voices behind the scene. They were handsome, had taste, could dance and act. Perfect for the roll. Everyone involved was aware. They were a team. They are milli Vanilli period.
It became a fraud when they were put as vocalists in the credits of the American version of their first album. The European version (which came first) didn't credit them as vocalists.
This shows how humans shallowness can be exploited. If it was the other guys they would have far less fans.
I totally agree. The singers that actually sung knew from the beginning that they were only using their voice. You signed up for it, so how are you made later down the line.
They are hacks and frauds.
Their manager exposed them, he offered them 17 million to do another album, but they wanted their own voices heard. They refused and he exposed them, told to them by a friend who was their assistant.
No they wanted more money and to use their real voices or they were going to tell the truth their manager didn’t like that so he exposed them instead
$17M back then was huge money I wonder why they declined it
@@lstruggy they were tired of lying
JLo never stopped, She made her entire career faking who she was.
At least Fab & Rob said no... It speaks volumes.
@@SparkleP8nter nah, she was jenny from the block
I don't know why those two got so much hate,When plenty of people lip sync
I don’t either! I wish mankind would of showed them more grace!
Especially nowadays
A lot of artists today dance on the stage while the lyrics play in the back ground
They never sang on the album. On stage they were lip syncing to other people's voices and not their own.
They weren't singing their own records. Others were exposed for the same thing. Definitely a no no back then
They got a raw deal .
I have never seen an artist skyrocket to the top like did in 89.They were so huge!!! If they had actually sang those songs they very well cold have changed the course of music history.
Jennifer Lopez been doing that for years using Ashanti's voice and any other person voice that's she can get away with, so leave Milli vanilli alone dang
And yet people act like she's the goat, plus the only reason she became famous in the first place was because of her role as Selena Quintanilla from that movie that came out 2 years after her death. If Selena was still alive, we probably wouldn't have Jlo.
Ashanti's, Christina Millians, and Natasha Ramos voices, Actually... There's more I just don't know who
@@tasmeenbaker9912if Mariah never divorced, we wouldn't have JLo either. JLos career was "created" to get back at Mariah by her ex hubby
oh wow I never knew this 😮
@@tasmeenbaker9912I don’t think there’s a single person who thinks J-Lo is the goat
Why blame then, when it was also they're company behind them. On top of the fact that those 2 could actually sing, but went given the opportunity
I blame them for being such whores for fame, they claimed credit for things they couldn't do.
I met them back in 91 during the club mtv tour with downtown Julie brown they were very laid back chill guys & yes they were destined to be music stars expecially rob he was very drivin & it's a shame how the music business treated these guys & rob never got a chance to experience his musical talent except on their rob n fab album which was a amazing job & they should have gotten credit were credit was due!!!
Before they were exposed, I always thought the voices just didn’t seem to match. Now Fab is performing their songs, and he actually have a really nice voice.
Unless that voice is fake, too!
Thank you for this documentary.
In Millie Vanille's defense, they were two young men trying to get into the music business. They got an opportunity and ran with it. This could've happened to anyone. These guys did what their management told them to do. Let's give these guys a pass.
I see your point, but I really don't think that this could've happen to anyone, aka that everybody that want to be i music business would take that shot. One thing is to sing other people's lyrics ect. but to not even sing on the recorded records is a whole other thing.. Just my opinion :)
If someone offered me $20,000 or more to lip sync..... Guess what? I am lip syncing my heart out! 😂 I will never blame these 2 for what they did. I blame the man who set this all up.
agreed ,blame management not the artists.
I seen them on TV when it did happen and I felt sorry for them.
Blame it on the rain
There should be a movie about the two.
Actually, there is one… came out December 21st, 2023… it‘s called GIRL YOU KNOW IT‘S TRUE:
ruclips.net/video/PpQwifRclWM/видео.htmlsi=0zYmCfkpAQaTZ9r3
There's a movie "Girl you know it's true" from December 2023. The movie seems to be successful. I watched the trailer.
@@ridemsk That is a documentarie, not a movie
They could get two actors to pretend like they are performing, but are CGI.
@@leykimayriNo it is a movie I just watched it was good asab too
The vocal alone couldn't make it to those successes. Call them fraud, call them anything, without their charisma, without their images the album isn't going anywhere.
Who gives a damn if those guys wrote the songs or not ! the fact that they we're able to perform those songs with the dance moves they had to entertain people was hella Good !
Apparent the fans do.🤡
People were upset because they never sang on the album and they were lip syncing to other people's voices during their live performances.
@@MissLadyG99 - People were mad because they acted like they appreciated music but Milli Vanilli exposed them as fraudulent. People were mad because they wanted to imagine that their favorite singers were models with dreads and jeans, but found out that their favorite singers were middle aged, overweight men with slacks and jerry curls. LOL! So, who are the real frauds?
@@jasonito23 The real frauds are the masterminds behind stuff like this (aka those who thought it was a goog idea to create groups like an pull one over on the public). Milli Vanilli was based on a lie that didn't need to take place (Rob and Fab thought it was wrong but they were young had been manipulated into doing it). You can try and blame the people all you want but there is no justification for lying to the public.
They DIDN"T perform the songs. Listen better. They weren't even on the album.
Bring them back! I love "Girl You Know It's True"
How? Only Rob is left alive
@@Aanita75yeah and the original singer Davis died too
@@Aanita75Rob died. Fab is still alive.
BRING BACK WHO? 🙄🙄 Rob is dead, Maaan!!
Thankfully, no one has ever lip-synched since then, right?
Right?
@@pardwayne Haha funny
They lip sync more then ever.
And who knows how many did the same back then with Milli Vinilli and never got court.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Don’t care. They make me happy in the 80s
They got caught because the original singers, that were even in the studio recording vocals for them, got jealous that MV got a Grammy and they did not.
The writers and singers should get the Grammy not the people who don't write the song or sing it
They were brilliant performers and proved afterwards to also have good singing voices. I feel they were judged way too harshly compared to what some singers get up to today. They deserved all their awards.
Stop calling them frauds. They didn't do anything that's no common today.
They are frauds as well today, if not more. Stop thinking backwards
@@d-rzarkocubrinoski They only did what their boss asked them to do.
Come on bro,,come on.
I'm calling them frauds. FRAUDS. Y'see, "Because everyone else is doing it" (it's not everyone, it's the low-talent people you adore) is not an absolution. It's a pout that your idols got caught lying, and fooling you.
@@OneVoiceMore Those low talent people who are lip syncing are actually quite famous.
Nothing has happened to them accept fame and money.
They were struggling, hungry, and desperate. And that ultimately was their demise they agreed to a bullishit contract, they knew wasn't right!
I don’t care what anyone thinks, they did it to survive and make a living. They made Milli Vanilli project work.
Rob was born in Munich, Germany, not New York as narrated in this video.
Thank you
When they were getting abused as being too foreign, they'd lie and say Rob was born in New York and Fab would lie and say he was born in Miami.
Rob's Bio-dad was from NY. And Fab did live in Miami for a while. It made them more "American." The media never corrects this stuff.
No one can deny, they were just ahead of their time.
I ain’t even mad at them. At least they weren’t making music about killing or drugs.
They were handsome energetic young guys who took a life changing opportunity. I dont think they are solely to blame. The producer orchestrated this. I think its sad they were villanized for this when people like JLO and others have been using other peoples voicces and getting away with it for years.
Still jamming it today.
Clearly no accountability of Frank Farian was sought.
They should've taught the two background singers how to dance, and the singers should've taught Milli Vanilli how to sing. Then relaunch the group as a quartet.
How were THEY frauds?!? They were planted and taken advantage of!! The person behind this scandal should be held accountable.
They were adults. It's quite a concept. You are responsible for your actions.
They did great performance and its not their fault. They were bullied into a scam. Frank should have been the blame.
More of the "grown men shouldn't be responsible for what they clearly did" crowd.
Never gets old.
How come the blame was hit on them only, what about the producer,,
His whyte
Trust me there are others today who are doing the same thing that they did they just haven't got caught
Jlo
@@Blindian971yes
Those two guys are as much the victims of the whole thing as us listeners. The real villain was Frank Farian. We've known this for years, it's time any social media mention of this particular scandal point the finger at the right villain. Frank Farian.
Come on bro,, just stop it..
He exploited human shallowness
They were both so handsome.
I got into a heated debate about these guys after I heard them speak. I told this guy there is no way they are singing. He must’ve thought I was a hater 😂. They were popular and the people loved them while it lasted. Crazy how long ago this happened. 😮
Yes Rob had a German accent and Fab to this day still has a French accent lol but both could actually sing
My sister still has the album. Despite knowing they are fake, she loved the songs too much to get rid of it.
The industry could have let those men live.
No other two could have been Milli Vanilli
I have them in my playlist and I care less of who the real voices were. They are the real deal for me.
I have a restaurant that sells only sizzle, and you are the target market
Show business is fake. It’s always fake. But you can’t let the facade slip… that’s the golden rule
Fab sounds good using his actual voice, very similar to double.
I'll never understand why it was such a big deal that they were lip syncing the live show? Do people not know that more than 95 percent of music artists do the very same thing with their own live shows? Look at Beyonce, spears, and many many more musicians!!!
Not in the philippines ..here in our country all filipino singers are singing live ..we dont lipsync..we can sing live anywhere everywhere...
How don’t u understand? It wasn’t their voices.
They weren't even on the album. I always hated them.
Lip sync or not still love milli vanili❤ part of my teenage years, the best
I loved these guys. I’m sorry they received such terrible hate. The maker of this plan got off Scott free. That’s terrible. The way it normally goes though. Those with the cash get away with so much more than they should. Terrible the one died under such circumstances. After all that fame. My heart hurts. But Fab can definitely sing!
Como haya sido. Cada una de todas las canciones tienen un lado oscuro, pero en su tiempo o éxito marcó algo inolvidable en cada uno de nuestra juventud...
It was the fault of the original singers who approved of lending their voices and then because of jealousy they belittled the two guys. What did they get of it in the long run? NOTHING!!!! WORTHLESS JEALOUSY!!!
The issue these days is singers who get pitch tuned in Studio to perfect pitch. The public is still being hoodwinked
They weren’t so much “caught” as their producer failed them. They were made to lip sync as part of their contract.
I never. Understood why they just didnt promote the real singers and had Rob And Fab perform dancing and acompanying vocals and toured like that?
Oh, pkease. Everyone in the industry knew and didn't care until they got caught. Nowadays, nearly every artist uses autotune. They didn't deserve so much hate.
Because there manager signed them to an illegal contract
The man was know to have his artists lip sync
The record company could have stopped it when they found out and they didn't
Watch behind the music milli vanillin or the new documentary on paramount+
Everybody who knew and didn't blow the whistle is complicit
Rob was born in Germany of an African American soldier stationed in Germany he never was born in New York. You can actually hear his German accent in interviews that’s why he and Fab(who’s from Guadeloupe, French Caribbean)vocals weren’t used.
Hell give me millions of dollar I’d lip sync too 😂
@@shanware2 You need to be good looking
They weren’t the only ones lip syncing
I dont care if they lip sync or what.. Duo' performance makes me happy.
If there will be a MV concert, I'd take part ❤😊🎉
The real milli vanilli is the combination of this 2 beautiful dancers and the hiding ugly singers at the back. If it happens that way then its not their fault but their manager. This guy can sing after all.
I still see their faces when I hear the songs they are amazing ❤❤
The Grammy Awards Committee should give back the award to this two guys! One posthumously for Rob Pilatus!
No, they should not.
It is really messed up this is happening every single day now. Yet they got penalized.
Still gotta love the music 🎶..no one is perfect.
'You will always be criticized by someone doing less than you", standards of perfection we don't hold ourselves to, Illusion, Charisma, Looks, Dance, Stage Presence, I will always be a fan.
These were the jams back then lol I was like 10 when the song came out
Frank Farian was the one to blame! People came down so hard on Rob and Fab but they wanted to sing…Frank wouldn’t let them. They keep saying biggest scandal in music history?? Which I feel is exaggerated…lots of scandals besides this and a lot other artists were lip syncing back then. Frank fooled everyone. Rob and Fab were very young at that time and sucked into it but the older people really singing played into it also…going along with it so wasn’t ALL Rob and Fab to blame. I blame Frank Farian
These kind of crappy news is just garbage RIP Rob.Fab Morvan is a person who has a great heart , he is no stranger and also is one of the only celebrity witch will not leave u alone and reply to your comment, he is a great singer and to prove it check out his concert that he is still performing tell this day and has greAt vocals and new music “ONE”
This happens more than people realise.
What kind of acid is this lady on? She called their dance moves infectious?! 🤯🤣 Holy shit Batman. NO!
They were at the time. Like their hair, their clothes, them...
@@mowthpeece1 No hell they weren't. You obviously can't dance 😂
I still hav the MV album & the real MV album too. Both album are wonderful & I lov them. For me that duo Rob & Fab are great performer. This is not about only artist lies, but bigger issue is : marketing way of industty elites. We can see so many artist with autotunes nowadays. Today industty only sell performers. Today only few real artists. Even grammy winners are the same as billboard winners. Well, blame it on the producer. The music industry
let haters hate but Milli, Vanelli was the best
lol ok buddy
The original Taylor swift can't sing
That music producer set those guys up for embarrassment. They were bound to be found out sooner or later. I do believe those songs would have still done well had the guys been actually singing them. They had pretty good voices.
Who cares? 🤷🏾♂️ Loved them then, loved them now and will ALWAYS love them.😊 ❤
I met them very early in their career and they were very nice and polite. They didn’t make any special requests back stage like many others did.
Did they really think they could lip sync their way into the HOF?
Funny how “authenticity” is the main idea, yet the music nowadays is lacking it…
And guess what... Fab trained singing and is performing the old songs singing himself... and he does well... not a spectacular voice, but it sounds quite good.
Rob Pilatus is an extreme beauty and great dancer. RiP
Don’t care what anyone says…this GROUP was good for other reasons…they weren’t as bad as the greatest of them all BONEY M…..there’s your imposters!!!!……none of em sung at all……they could but they didn’t…..FACTS
Why would you want a refund for the record. Great songs, great voices. Doesn't matter whose picture is on the cover.
Newbies dreaming of becoming famous.... Asked to lip sync? Who would turn that down? I don't blame them one bit. I blame the man that paid them and asked them to do this. These 2 were simply getting paid to do what the boss told them to do. Look at the music today! So much lip syncing going on.
They did deserve more financially than what they got.
I didn’t care if they could sing or not since they were so damn fine but I did love and buy all their music.
They probably said NO to something
Yep. No to lying on another album.
If true fans really stuck with them, it could of saved a life 🌹
No wonder they used the pretty boys.
Good clip about Rob and Fab. You should make another one about how they were threatened and controlled by the record machine into keeping silent and how they got scammed, thinking they were going to be on the record.
I bought their album and loved it
The act was all about entertaining and it happened as expected 🎼🎶