Avengers Fight Marvel's Most Powerful Gods
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2023
- Avengers: Beyond (2023) Issues 1 through 5.
▸ Someone has been manipulating the Avengers for the past several months, altering the very fabric of reality in an attempt to prepare the planet for a threat that could destroy everything. Here, now, this unseen individual is to be dragged, kicking and screaming, from the shadows and into the light - and is revealed as the Beyonder! Something big is coming to the Marvel Universe...
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You already did this
We combined all the videos into one video
It’s a full story so they different parts into the full story
@@comics_explained i like how you ignored me
@@flatbushdonjuanful no one asked
@@dustinchen your name is comics explained? TF wrong with you hooman???
This just goes to show me that when it comes down to power scaling Marvel really doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing
Are you just might not understand
@@dortaciaparks827 No, it's definitely more fluid these days. authors are making more things up that can kill celestials, the one above all, the tribunal, infinity and eternity.
The satellite bluff reminded me exactly of the scene when Batman armed all the hell spores and threatened Darkside.
@@blackmage665editors don’t exist anymore is why b
@@Akkbar21 That is probably true. no one wants to pay someone whose job is to say "you are a moron, this makes no sense."
Trying to imagine all of these different levels of powers is exhausting, especially when you try to go back and read stories that are more grounded.
You have to become smarter and used your brain and do it like that I understand I’m literally watching without complaining
@@dortaciaparks827 define intelligence without putting yourself on a pedestal.
@@dortaciaparks827you talk about intelligence yet your grammar sucks
Not really hard when they go about punching eachother no matter their power level lmao
@@entropy404 lol yes the ability to break reality and shape time and space but it all comes down to punching anyway
Then there is squirrel girl. Waiting patiently to pounce. "I can take this dude". 😂
So, let's get this straight as I understand it. First Cosmos creates Celestials. Celestials rise up and defeat First Cosmos and lock him away. Celestials create Lost One. Lost One creates Beyonders. Beyonders rise up and defeat him and lock him away. What amazing creativity on the part of these writers. Oh, and Celestials create infinite stones and hand them out to the various universes, yet they weren't able to defeat Thanos when they attacked in the Infinity Gauntlet saga. I stopped reading comics because I have become allergic to discontinuity in my older years.
You suck ! Your the reason sarcasm exists
The Lost One was just having fun with them. And because of the inconsistency, I’m willing to bet that the Lost One was there before the Celestials. Probably knows of TOAA and TOBA which barely any great being has barely seen
@@PKLO9727TOBA = Asshole in portuguese brazilian
But why does it trigger you? Sometimes we create something greater than what we intend, it’s poetic and tragic when cosmic beings can’t stop their cycles since that’s what they were made to do. I get why you’d prefer a more rigid power structure but it’s literally fantasy lol.
@@nailinthefashionis it wrong to just prefer a better system in power progression tho? At the end of the day its just a disagreement on preference, so let it be
Calling it now by the way. They'll eventually reveal the Lost One is the King in White version of Knull, the King in Black. But where the Celestials tried to hire Knull, and he went to war with them, they created the Beyonders to steal the Lost One's power to work alongside them instead of dealing with him.
Context, we were told (its in another video of Rob's), that there are Kings in White and Kings in Black, Beyonds are Kings in White, Knull, and now Venom, is the King in Black. He'll be reborn into the next universe as another Knull (more or less). Hence, calling that the Lost One was the King in White of the previous cosmos.
@@ZulatobariGreatforgegreetings, I was looking at The Lost One, he/it does resembles Knull at a glance, IMO. It wouldn't be too far fetched if that was the case. Knull, King In Black, and The Lost One being The King In White.
Good theory.
Someone more powerful than everyone else, again. 😮💨
yeah it gets tiring.
Seems like DC has had a lot of the same. It's a shame. It reminds me of the body snatcher trope Shadowrun can't seem to shake.
Same with DC
only primate brain would think stuffs like this cool after oh so many times. But I guess someone had to save the comics from a better storytelling medium out there by hyping the crap out of stuff like this
Yeah... an easy fix for the Celestial/Lost one retcon is to make the Lost one a type of Celestial but on steroids (his original form is not that far apart)
I liked the Beyonder better when he had that old school jheri curl.
Creating an antagonist so ridiculous that it turns the whole story into a giant awkward plot contrivance is really great storytelling™
The first thing I thought when I saw the lost one was how he looks like the brothers from Marvel vs. Dc.
Marvel should have never screwed with the placement of TOAA and The Living Tribunal because all they're effectively doing is creating another being that might as well be called TOAA. It makes no difference except that they want this new being to be more interactive. TOAA should have just been the hands-off creator of all things, the Genesis, but not an active participant in things.
Marvel may as well say, that the Celestials created TOAA at this point.
I disagree. We need some explanations.
I remember reading the original secret wars, my dad handed them down to me and they were absolutely fantastic. We knew about characters like galactus but the Beyonder was a new brand of character
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I want to be able to do this with my kids one day... your dad sounds cool...
I handed mine down to my daughter's, I grew up in the 80's. They absolutely love the og comics.
Al ewing got it wrong. It makes no sense for the celestials to have created the beyonders when you see in secret wars 2 the beyonder cut a swath through the celestials. He took out several celestials with ease while boom boom watched in awe.
Well his fundamental idea was the Beyonders being a failsafe to deal with the Celestials if needed. But I agree their power level was so high it just didn't make sense.
He's a nuke, but for celestials. His whole point is mutually assured destruction if celestials started a war amongst themselves. His very existence was the deterrent that kept peace. Sounds pro-nuclear proliferation, I'm fine with it being retconned.
Beyonders: You saved us from 100% guaranteed death that we had no solution to Beyonder, but we cannot agree with you sacrificing 4 of us to prevent ALL of us from dying.
Beyonder: You wot mate?
Beyonder got the vault dweller treatment
It's like when writers write themselves into a deadend, so they introduce a bluff to get themselves out
“ I could swim on the surface of the sun. I could fly though a black hole, I could shatter a moon with my fist.” He basically said he’s Superman lol
When the One above All isn't Above well..All!! I think it's time Marvel take a step back
Gotta keep upping those power levels. This feels a bit like a DC story.
The satellite bluff reminded me exactly of the scene when Batman armed all the hell spores and threatened Darkside.
This isn't the end of the story, it's the beginning of something more. I can't wait to see where this goes next!!!!
Jonathan Hickman is cooking up something crazy can't wait for the GODS event 🎉
@@themadtitan7554I won’t get excited for anything from him until it’s fully finished. X-men burned me bad.
I feel like Marvel is due for a full line wide reboot. The powers of people are just too astronomical.
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I think Marvel had a golden opportunity with Hickmans avengers and new avengers, where they could have rebooted the entire lineup. The Beyonders during that arc were the top dogs. Now, there are almost a dozen entities out there that could wipe out a beyonder. If you were to say venom is a cosmic level threat 20 years ago, people would think you were crazy.
Now im not one who just doesn't want change. I just think Marvel is due for a reboot. And it's my opinion, I wouldnt say it's right or wrong but an opinion.
It's just natural progression of power in comics. Don't like it, stop reading comics.
@JaGGeR- It's always at least one 😄 ...thank you for your insightful comment
@@JaGGeR- Go back to bed Millenial, your mom will make you some avocado toast.
@@JaGGeR- You're right in that power levels in comics do continue to grow forever, but 1: you don't have to be a dick about it and 2: a reboot helps a lot by resetting those powers and allowing new origins/enemies/mechanics to be created
Keep reading re-writes of batman tracking down the mobsters one clue at a time. Must be nice to have a one-dimensional imagination. Again, you want the old shit, go back and read the old shit. Life moves on. Probably be a good idea for you, too.
Am I tripping... haven't I watched this exact video before?
Edit: ohhh i see, its a compilation.
This is really well put together. AMAZING work.
Comics Explained got me through some ROUGH TIMES back in the early days, and are still the highlight of my days. Rob's videos pop up, I hit "like" before even watching, hit full-screen-view, and then savor every second. I miss the days when I had videos still unseen. Now I wait, one by one, in anticipation ⚠️
Rob's basically the Encyclopedia Britannica of comics. History was always my favorite subject, and now I know Marvel History, even DC History, better than our own World History 😁👍
I'm glad you like it
just don't ask him to cover Earth X series.....It's too big of a story
@@Route66SnacksI think about paradise and universe x everytime I watch a video
Awesome recap!!
if i had to consolidate this stuff, i'd probably say that the beyonders betraying the lost one happened with him being the one for the anti celestial civil war fail safe purpose and when they took his power, the beings in the cosmos let it happen as they saw them as still being able to fulfill that purpose.
Effectively, the 1st Firmament created the Celestials who in turn beat him and the Aspirants, then the Celestials created the Beyonders and the Lost One, which apparently are so powerful, they destroy all the Celestials and all other cosmic entities.
It seems like extremely stupid writing.
there must be an ongoing bet in marvell, as to who will create the most morronic story ever. from the looks of it, it's still going strong.
Welcome to Marvel and 50 odd Omnipotents lol
The One Above All,
Sise-neg (Genesis),
Nemesis (Infinity being) / Infinity gauntlet wielder,
Alien Entity
White Phoenix of the Crown,
The Infinities
The Beyonders (Ivory Kings),
The Living tribunal,
Multi or standard Eternity/Infinity,
Logos or standard Chaos & Order,
Chaos King (Amatsu-Mikaboshi),
Protege,
Scathan the approver,
Mad Jim Jaspers,
Tiamat (The dreaming celestial) full potential
The Fulcrum,
Composite Mchael Korvac,
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite,
Thanos with The Astral Regulator.
Pre retcon Beyonder
Pre retcon Molecule man,
Post 2015 Secret War Molecule man,
Meggan full potential,
God Emperor Doom,
House of M Scarlet Witch,
Marquis of Death,
Goblin force,
Abraxas,
Shuma-Gorath,
Zom,
Insane Genis Vell,
The First Firmamemt,
Havok with the nexus of reality,
Franklin Richards (Adult full potential),
Maelstrom (Anomaly powers, end of the Universe)
The Ultimate Nullifier wielder,
Death,
The One Below All
The Hunger,
The Makers,
Slorioth the Omnivorous possibly,
Asteroth possibly,
Oblivion,
Akhenaten,
The All-Rider (Ghost rider ultimate form)
Top tier Celestials,
The Vishanti,
Captain Britian with Excalibur and Amulet,
Mystic principalities in their home dimension.
The Lost one.
The Lost One (sans helmet) sitting on his throne in that one panel gave me strong Vigo the Carpathian vibes.
Im surprised how one writer says theres something more powerful than toaa, a being that cant be overpowered and has never been, and that rob just takes that as the absolute truth in the comics.
like dude its been stated on numerous occasions that toaa is the most powerful fictional character, you can't just retcon this stuff. it's been around for 50 years
@comicsexplained doesn't know any better IMHO. He's equivalent to a popular sneaker hypebeast, its trendy for him...
Actually, toaa has been overpowered before by Thanos using something called the Astral Regulator. Unless that's been retconned already. I've stopped keeping track.
@@rustybrooks8916oh yeah that. It doesn’t make sense though since toaa is literally the writer’s incarnation
@@rustybrooks8916 That was non-canon and even then TOAA was not beaten but his avatar was. TOAA itself was speaking to Thanos and Warlock in the past while the present Thanos was still around with the avatar of TOAA inside himself.
If celestial energy can kill him, wouldn’t Galactus energy? He had one shot celestials before
apparently those celestials are different . galacuts is weakling ant compared to beyonder Xd
It stands to reason that the lost one made sure he kept enough power in case, also as an immortal maybe it gave him something to look forward too 🤷♂️
Hey Rob. Love the content but would you start with the background info of the comic? (I.e. Title, issue, writer, artist, etc.). Just so we can buy it and support the creators or look them up for ourselves. Thanks man. Keep up the good work.
Hey I don't know if this helps but if you click on the video description of the videos, Rob usually has the comic title and numbers in there. As mentioned, hope it helps.
Thank you love what you do
These are the stories... That gives me a love for comics beyond... So bring it on...
Awesome video
That was awesome!
Reed Richards: hehe Ultimate Nullifier go brrrrr
Amazing!!!
I love this bootleg beyonder story line so much, such an interesting character... ❤😂
Finally another full story ❤
Your a full story and I hope you are having a great one.
@@jaimemarquez1469I am thank you 😊 robs uploads always make my day
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@@Gfish17 did you have a stroke during that post
This isn't a full story. It's one issue.
Marvel has made this very confusing with amping the celestials. If the beyonders were strong enough to wipe out the living tribunal, and they pail in comparison to the lost one, they should be magnitudes stronger than the celestials. But the celestials somehow created the beyonders? Based on this logic, it seems the celestials would be stronger than the abstracts and the living tribunal, which makes no sense. I feel like comic writers have a habit of making characters so powerful, they write themselves into a corner and have to come up with some half cocked way to beat the character.
Exactly. The Celestials are equal to Galactus (when he is not at full power) and are below Eternity and Infinity who are in turn below the Tribunal. Meanwhile where the Beyonders rank is unknown. Two of their number were taken out by beings weaker then the Tribunal but then later in the same comic run somehow three of them are able to take out the Tribunal. One of the two defeated Beyonders was reality warped into a tree while the other was blown apart. By that alone the Tribunal wins by reality warping them into cosmic dust but no bad writing takes over again.
just because the beyonders killed the abstracts... doesn't mean they are as powerful as the abstracts...
@@Ionstorm2002 you are thinking way too small...
@@joshuaohuka7719 They have to be as powerful or more powerful otherwise they just get obliterated. Especially by the Living Tribunal who can see everything that has happened, is happening and can happen in the Marvel Multiverse.
@@Ionstorm2002 they really don't... Tony and T'challa literally trap the Beyonder without his consent... despite him watching them the whole time... the ultimate nullified isn't as powerful as Galactus... but it can kill him... everything has limits... and if you are resourceful enough... then you can exploit those limits to achieve your goals... if not then there is really no reason to have comics at all... since the living tribunal would be the only existence that mattered...
Marvel needs to stop focusing on new gods of power and do some relatable stuff like what Dare devil and Hawkeye do.
I feel like ever since Thor has become the all father, his powers as the all father have been nerfed. Like he should be hundreds of times stronger than he is with the odin force
That’s the thing they don’t allow him to use the Odin force as Odin did. Odin actively amped himself to levels higher than Thor physically. Thor just relies on his own innate power for the most part unless it needed otherwise for the story as shown in the god of hammers story line
For a minute I thought I was in an alternate universe because I 100% remember you posting this already…. But this is the non broken up version
Giving all the credit to Steve Rogers doesn’t feel right. After all it was She-Hulk that said “You know us so well. Tell me do you really think we wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice one city to save the entire world?”. Which leads into Captain America’s dialog to The Lost One. She gave him the springboard he used to convince The Lost One to leave.
Imagine Dr.Doom Going against the lost one and peotentlly absorbing his power. 🙏🏽
The Beyonders look like my attempt at drawing aliens at age 9 lol not a fan of their design.
Mhhmmm... I kinda of like it. Looks rough, like he's been traveling for a while. He's body is decaying and his armour is just rag tag crap that he salvaged from his opponents he killed.
@@eldirtyfaygo5395 I meant the ivory kings, the original Beyonder I like his design. But the ivory kings look like a 9 year old attempt at drawing aliens lol.
Bruh! I’m 50 and I love your videos! I get to know about new comics with your videos.. so good
Is the "Crown" as it is being presented, a sentient being?!!
One day you will realize that most Marvel/DC comics revolve around a constantly increasing power meter.
Sooo, is a "Too Powerful for the MCU: The Lost One" possible?
If Rob wants to do it perhaps. Though he pretty much has already with this 🙂
The beyonder needs a new costume
This story is leading up to venom beyond vs carnage beyond venome teaming up with avengers beyond and the beyonders to take on carnage and the maker to free the multiverse version of infinity who is chained being released.
LO: you don't have a satellite that could potentially kill me!
Cap: you wanna fuck around and find out?
The Lost One turned into Red's dad from "Friday" after that.
Maybe this is just me being stubborn but I doubt that the one above all isn't the most powerful entity un Marvel comics. With the appearance of the One Below all which seems to just be The One Above All's grumpy side the crown could just be an exploration of it's aspects.
5:19 dude, speaking of Hickman did you hear that announcement that their doing the relaunch for Ultimate Spider-Man and he’s writing it man I am so hyped up for that one
I hope to see more of the Lost One and Tiamok Rath in future cosmic stories. These two new addition to the Marvel Universe are very interesting and should be explore further!
You a bot
how could you say that with a straight face, this puts a kabash on many of my favorite stories for no damn reason
What about the theft of earth II (High Evolutionary created) in Thing two in one? The thieves claimed they were doing this at the direction of those "from beyond"
The satellite bluff reminded me exactly of the scene when Batman armed all the hell spores and threatened Darkside.
Even with Rob explaining this thoroughly, my head still hurts.
Optic blast. No no no sir. FREEDOM BEAMS LOL😅
Does anyone else remember when comicbooks were about fighting crime, and stopping maniacal villains out to conquer earth?
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Pandora's box is open.
I don't know. If this being was even more powerful than the Beyonders, non-cosmic beings should be of no concern to him. It's above him to even engage them in combat.
He should be able to crush the living tribunal... But gets in a punch fight with avengers. Cool story
So are Celestial the strongest beings in the Marvel Multiverse? They created the Lost one who created the Beyonders, who then killed all the cosmic entities.
Yeah....
The writers have really outdone themselves with all of the schizoid scaling.
Character creates characters that can create other characters that are stronger than the characters that created the characters that made the character that created them.
Amazing.
@@Heroinexoxolol that is why I am more hype of the Cosmic Forces
Such as Enigma Force, Goblin Force, Chaos Magic and Phoenix Force than the Cosmic Beings because of this issue.
The Lost one looks like Knull
Thinking about what's happened in king in black and the current venom story believe its Marvel trying to line it up right.
I wasn't even aware you finished this story!
We have a Beyonder
We have a Hulk
Literally. This doesn't make sense.
21:12 his punishment is literally to be human
I so badly want you to do DC, but I’ve admittedly been loving this story! Please redo the Marvel character hierarchy and do a DC version.
In about 4 years The Lost One will go good hang out with the avengers or fantastic 4 maybe wear the spider symbol then be killed by an even more powerful being that's never before been shown blah blah blah whatever happened to a simpler time stopping a bank robbery or jewel thieves. Great vid by the way rob
THANK YOU! This is my argument. Marvel nees to stop with this BS!
Yeah, I agree. It's dumb Tha they don't just stick to a hierarchy and then learn to write great stories within that. The power creep that constantly happens in comics gets boring.
"There's only one God, ma'am. And I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that"
Why do's the lost one look like a Deaths head knock off 🤣, nice work as ever peep's
You sound different. Did you get a new microphone. It sounds like an old video but new. Hope your doing good
I'm so confused now. Was the Lost One the most powerful being that basically was a beyonder god? Or were the Celestials the ones who created the Lost One, or well I'm so confused. Like the celestials are among the cosmic entities but the cosmic entities got massacred by the beyonders who were made by the Lost One who was made by the Celestials?
The Celestials created the Lost One for the specific purpose of being able to destroy them, in the event that they went to war with each other again (as the last time they did that, it destroyed the "omniverse"). The Beyonders possess the power that the Lost One once possessed (each has a fraction of that power, so the Lost One at peak was stronger than any one Beyonder but about as strong as all Beyonders combined), and were given a special role in maintaining the universe, either by the Celestials or by some greater power (presumably The One Above All). Now the Lost One wants its power back, and apparently understands it well enough to take it back, despite not having much power of its own anymore.
You should be hired for Marvel comics. You definitely have the potential to make it happen.
Seeing rob write an avengers story would be insane
Agreed.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve listened to this video, almost word for word somewhere before. Not saying it’s ripped off, it was on this channel but I 100% feel like I’ve heard this.
I could predict some of what was going to be said.
You rock
Has he not done this video before? I remember this exact same vid.
This story should have been 1 page long, the Beyonders appear on the other side of the universe, they snap their fingers, say, "Marvel is stupid now" erases the universe, and leave.
Im thinking the lost one might just be the other warrior that was fighting knull
34 min vid let’s goooo
Cull obsidian is such a metal name
How would Beyonder fare against Infinity Ultron from the What If animated series?
As interesting as that might sounds I don't think Ultron stands a chance
Beyonder no diff
Man Hickman man Hickman! Let me tell ya 😂❤
25:40
giggity
I wonder if The Fallen One scales to the new hulk and Immortal thor. I would be interested to hear your opinion on this.
No wonder Oblivion want to end existence.
What's the title of the first secret war comic? And of fall of x? Where do I start?
You can always trust al ewing to clarify other people's garbage writing with a sentence or two in a completely unrelated story
Wait the one above all is no longer the strongest wtf man he’s literally God with a capital G
Galaxy of a destructive system
I’m so high, I can’t keep up
0:02 / 20:50
Just came here from watching the Marvel’s God mutant returns (Fall of X) Video, Wouldn't the Machine that Stark and Black Panther that could force an Energy Source into a Physical Form also be able to work on the Phoenix Force and essentially Resurrect Jean Grey, because from my understanding, Jean is the Perfect Host for the Phoenix, meaning it would Resurrect her as a by product of forcing the Phoenix Force into a Physical Form?
At 5:37 that image sure looks like he's wearing Wu-Tang gear! What is Doctor Strange Wu-Tang name?
I bet it’s “Mickey Mouse” under the lost one’s mask.
Wait…. isn’t this the same story as the one you uploaded (Beyonder VS the Lost one)?
The greatest power of cosmic, multiversal entites is their ability to multiply like rabbits.
30+ min of rob oh heck yesss
The beyonder is the writer, and he’s scared of his boss? Is that what I’m hearing?
So where does Knull stand in power scaling in comparison to this guy?
All of these monstrously powerful beings and cosmic entities usually draw power from a specific source that is usually infinite. Some of these beings and stronger or weaker than the other. Some aren’t really powerful at all and more just long lasting and invulnerable by circumstance.
My question is, are there any of these beings or entities that draw from multiple sources? It would just be insane to get a character that is powered by the totality of all the different crazy power sources. Beyond verse, negative zone, pocket dimensions of all sorts, abstract concepts and such. It would be crazy to see a human gain that much power. To where he can just slap around beyonders like they are children throwing a tantrum.
For TOAA sake don’t give them any ideas, all we need is a new cosmic entity that’s more powerful than the last 😂😂😂
It's funny you said that because that's exactly what "The Crown/Enigma/Dominion is. By gaining the knowledge of all these different power sources it was able to tap into it's power. Also it's kinda what astral regulator Thanos was, so it has actually happened before technically.
I forgot to say that this being is technically an AI version of Mr sinister so yes a being that started out as a normal human being.