Why Are So Many Scientists Atheists? | Tom Rudelius
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Thank you Dr. Rudelius. You are a scientist beyond what any of these "I don't believe in God, I believe in science" commentators could even comprehend! Kind of amusing actually!
You're an inspiration!
Well, scientists tend to be the brand of person who puts evidence first. It’s difficult to invest belief in something that has no verifiable evidence it exists
No verifiable evidence it exists? How about everything you can see? Someone had to have made it, unless you believe nothing made it. That it popped into existence by its self, which is not logical. The complexity of everything is proof of an intelligent mind capable of design.
@@sandina2cents779 the earth is evidence of the earth, unless you are saying the earth is god.
Why do you say “someone” made it? Someone? We see energy take on new forms every day…no god(s) evident. And yes, everything has a cause.
What followers of this belief have is arguments…but no actual, verifiable evidence of any gods.
@@reality1958 no not everything has a cause. Everything that comes into existence has a cause. The universe had a beginning so must have had a cause.
I’m saying the complexity of creation I would contend had a creator. We see the creation and work backwards to the cause. Creation in its self is the verifiable proof.
I say someone made it because things don’t just pop into existence on their own. Somebody had to make a decision to create the universe. Someone or some thing you had to put it in motion. Even if energy always existed, what change the energy into matter? Why didn’t it just stay energy?
@@sandina2cents779 okay that is your opinion. That it requires a “creator”…some kind of personal agent.
Why is it then that this “agent” is nowhere to be evidenced? I understand this is your subjective opinion…but where is the proof?
@@reality1958 OK. What is your opinion how the universe got here? You didn’t answer any of my questions. I actually want your opinion. How was the energy changed or set in motion?
It’s not a Subjective opinion that the universe exists or that it had a beginning. It’s expanding therefore it couldn’t have always existed.
Scientists are gods in their own story
And suffer the effects of blasphemy .
Only when a scientist gets caught doctoring their studies do they remorse.
They only remorse , they don't stop .
Like a politician caught lying or plagiarizing . the play dumb and just continue. Good luck with that . 😃
Why can't the all powerful god just come down and see me?
It's the same problem for all deities created by man, just as it's the same issue for Superman to come and see you. They exist only in books and people's imagination. Religious people have a hard time proving the existence of any deities because they have nothing but "faith" which is a cop out. Another way of admitting they don't know without saying it directly
He already came down once and was crucified and rose on the third day according to the scriptures. And he’s coming again for those who believe in his death, burial and resurrection. Which could be any day now.
@@truthinlove2342 *"He already came down once and was crucified and rose on the third day according to the scriptures."*
According to the scriptures? Well according to the book *IT* By *Stephen King,* an alien awakes from it's hibernation under the town of Derry every 30 years to eat children, masquerading as a clown or other entities. I guess it's true then if it's written
*"And he’s coming again for those who believe in his death, burial and resurrection. Which could be any day now."*
Yeah you people have been selling that snake oil for years
Why would he care? When you own a bunch your interests are oriented higher up , you can only get what’s available.
@hwhack Why are you so full of yourself and want him to reveal himself on your own terms?
This argument is a logical fallacy named "Argument from Ignorance / incompetence".
Hahaha, yeah, most of my colleagues and former colleagues are atheist ( or should i say All ?) Hahahah.
However, I wanna believe that I'm more agnostic than atheist 😅.
The concept of “nothing” cannot have the ability to act, otherwise it would exist as a “potential act” and be one of many things that exist. If the universe came from “nothing” then this nothing would have had the ability to become the universe. But the concept “nothing” as we previously explained, cannot have the ability to act, therefore, the universe could not have come from nothing on its own.
Since there are things that do exist, then “something” must have always existed, because as we just proved, things cannot come from “nothing” on their own.
If time had ever proceeded at an infinite rate, which is like fast forwarding through a motion picture, we would not be here today because all events would have already occurred in a single instant. Therefore, time has always progressed at a finite rate and any mathematician can prove that time could never have progressed over an infinite time interval. The proof goes like this, pick any number no matter how great. You can always add one to it and thereby make it greater in value, therefore you can never reach infinity.
And you cannot say that all we need to do is to wait an infinite amount of time and then we would reach infinity, because then you are assuming that you can wait an infinite amount of time. However, this is what you were trying to prove and so that is not proof at all. You cannot assume to be true, that which you are trying to prove to be true otherwise you can prove anything to be true, even that which is false. Therefore, time could not have started an “infinite” time ago and therefore had a beginning a finite time ago.
Since “something” always existed as we previously proved, it had to have existed before time started. Since space and time are one entity called the space-time continuum as Einstein pointed out, then this “something” had to have existed before space and time existed and therefore caused space and time.
Since this “something” existed outside of space and time it cannot be made up of material things, because material things can only exist in space. And this “something” could not be just chaos which has no order, because as we previously proved, something cannot come from nothing on its own, hence order cannot come from pure disorder. Therefore, this “something” had to have had the ability to cause order, space-time, material things, beauty, life, everything in our universe, including our universe and natural laws and rules. Since we call ourselves beings, then we should at least call this “something” a Being, who we call God.
Since only God always existed, and the universe is not made of God as we just proved, then God must have created the universe out of “nothing”. Since “nothing” does not even exist, then God must have infinite Power in order to have created the universe from “nothing”. Since all people desire happiness, then God must have created us to be happy out of love for us.
Naturally, all creatures should love their Creator. For us to love God from our heart, God had to create in us a free-will, because no person can be forced to love, otherwise this would not be true love from their heart. With our free-will, we can choose to do good or bad to our neighbor and this is why there is sin in the world, because some people have chosen to hate God and their neighbor and are only interested in pleasing themselves. God did not create evil, nor does He desire evil, but he does allow sin to happen because He had to form us with a free-will, in order for us to love Him and others from our heart.
Why is a Man God? How did you guys make Jesus a God? He is a Prophet
Yeah I'm the first person to comment on how poorly this man represents his position. It's like listening to a third grader trying to explain how chocolate is made
Not everyone is a good public speaker. He still has a right to make a point though. Show him how it’s done.
A good point that I believe as an Atheist is that there is no god. God made us believe that we are created different than animals, yet we evolve and need water, food, and comfort to survive like them. And human intelligence isn’t a difference from animals, because it has been shown that octopuses are smart as well (may not be as smart as a human) but they have the same traits of a more thinking creature like us.
The only big difference is that all humans think of a higher power and extraterrestrial decent during their travel on earth.We can’t help it and think of it so it’s natural,do any animals do the same?
@@obiecanobie919 If they could have speech they would, I mean at the end of the day it is still animal to think that way. But that is still trash because there is no god or no confirmation of extraterrestrials. God is false and there is enough logic confirmation. The next step of being an animal is to think, and next is to actually think with logic.
Religions were an early attempt to understand the mysteries of nature.