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My suspension would be that she was first encountered as one of the mimic tears you found above ground like the troll or bear. I also think that she a has a lot of similarities with homunculus.
I wish malenia reacted more to your decisions in the game. Like when you find undeniable proof that Ranni was behind the night of the black knifes. Or when you choose to court her. Or when you feed that one girl Shabriri grapes.
In general i wish there was more interaction between the Tarnished and Melina. It would be nice to speak with her more in general and if you had achieved certain goals before certain times being able to inquire about the circumstances
Melina really needed much more screen time. Like half of her dialogue was optional/ hidden, and honestly she should've at least appeared whenever you wanted to level, it's how you built rapport early on with the other leveling maidens. I still care about her, but that's mainly because I have a soft spot for paragon characters. I'm hoping the DLC will give her more dialogue and honestly, full on *scenes*
Considering that melina warns you JUST before activating the three fingers ending and then vows to kill you right after activating it, it would be really cool if feeding grapes to hyetta on the leadup gave you dialogue on information on the frenzied flame, why it’s a bad thinf and why you should stop giving grapes to her.
@@12thMovement H O N E S T L Y from her point of view she *just* told the Tarnished they're worthy, only to find them *feeding ghost eyes to a blind woman telling her they're grapes.* She should have organised an intervention at the Roundtable Hold
I feel like Asimi had a vague understanding of fear at the beginning of her questline, but if we fight and kill her as Asimi, Eternal King, she now knows and understands the weight and severity of true fear, not a mimicry as the Silver Tears had known prior
That is a very plausible explanation; that she learned about fear in theory, but actually experiencing it comes as a great shock to her, like it would anyone. She is more like us than I gave her credit for!
i wish melina had a role like johnny in cyberpunk it would have been cool to see her input on important events and have her interract with the tarnished more
Aw man that's a great comparison - love Mr Silverhand. You are right thought, I think Melina could have been implemented a bit better and smoother, like Johnny.
@@AutismGaming489Ngl that would be epic! Wake up Tarnished we got a Leyndell to burn. The Erdtree would be Arasaka tower lmao. Kind of interesting, because the Arasaka logo looks like a tree.
I remember somebody floating the suggestion that Melina should have a unique line of dialogue for every site of grace, or at the very least you should be able to speak to her at every grace and not just at specific instances. They also wanted her to at least show up every time we level up, and I agree with all of that.
I really wish they would have kept this questline in. It's so fascinating, and has some interesting parallels to Rykard and the great snake. A parasite of fire... and a parasite of liquid.
Mimic tears were created in the try to create a lord, based on that, i think, Asimi may be one of these tries, but instead of being a lord, she can possess others, others who can be a Lord, could be a excellent way to introduce another ending like "Lord of the Night City" or "Lord of the Silver Tear"
I think in development, it made sense to have a quest line to obtain the mimic tear summon. I'm hoping the DLC does feature some more lore about the Eternal City, especially the giant skeletons on the thrones.
I'd honestly prefer if the DLC focused on expanding upon preexisting lore and characters. Elden Ring has as much, if not more, depth to its lore than past Fromsoft games. Yet we understand relatively little about the Lands Between
@@PracticallypreposterousWe didn't know a lot of Dark Souls 1 lore when it first came out, DLC explained a lot but it was still very mysterious. Elden Ring will most likely have a sequel sometime in the future, i have no doubt about that.
@@Noizzed Yeah but DS3 went in a completely different direction, we wanted to know more about pontiff/cinder/consumed king and untended graves but we instead got the end of the world and gael
Given the recurring motif of the double-identity in Elden Ring, I find very interesting the idea of this quest, which seems to fully realise the thematic potential of the rather underwhelming mimic tear bossfight. A shame she was cut.
I’d wager her name is reminiscent of Assimilation. Possibly being a different type of silver tear meant to bind itself to another in order to become something/someone more.
Imho i think the Mimic Tear would be the most logical. For some reason it's the only Spirit Ash that costs HP to summon. Maybe "drinking" her gives you an HP boost, and then to summon her into battle, costs you that same amount of HP. That's how i would have done it. Then maybe used the "rune of death" grey shaded health to stop you healing back to where you were?
the cut content from this game is really interesting but my faviroute has to be karles cut questline, the end of it is so good. I think it would make a great video if you decided to do one too
Ah yes I have seen this possible connection discussed! It's very plausible, especially as it does fit with Asimi also being called Eternal King, the counterpart to the Eternal Queen!
This just goes to fuel my theory that Radagon himself is a silver tear of Marika… even Marika herself says the dialogue “you have yet to become me. Yet to become a god.” And herself is rumored to be from the eternal cities
I've had the same theory. It would also explain the banishment of the Nox and possibly the destruction of the Nameless Eternal City at Deeproot by Astel if they tampered with the idea of copying the chosen God of the land as ordained by the higher power that was the Elden Beast.
Then again, perhaps they originally had that in mind for Radagon/Marika, but then that changed and so they abandoned this questline along with that plot point. Though who knows, maybe more will be revealed in the DLC. I'd really like it if they added stuff to the main world and not just new areas as well, such as more interactions with Melina, so I'd like to see some cut npcs/questlines make it in too.
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Honestly, From should have just removed the silver tear summon until they could patch in this quest. It would have been one of the best questlines in the game.
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She basically acts like a IRL souls maiden. Like the fire keeper from ds3. That soft spoken soft mannered feminine figure. But instead of "leveling us up" she lore dumps
I'm bummed about Kale's because you could have done a choice thing where you either choose to become Lord of Frenzy or give him hope of a better world sending him to Stormveil and looking for(or rescuing some in inconvenient places moving them to easier ones near Grace sites) other merchant members with the prize being that they all now carry all of the same materials and gear without need to kill them for bell bearings as well as new dialogue similar to Boc* where they call you Lord now. * I'd have also expanded Boc's questline with him moving to Stormveil(I'd have made the area like Majula where it fills up with friendly NPC's) and is now able to craft certain pieces of gear if you have the right items(like altering one lordsword piece into another or craft pieces from a set using extra pieces).
“Whether you risk everything for glory or offer all that you have left, with boundless compassion. No one can foretell the consequences of your good intentions.” Perfectly fits with her questline and utterly breaks my heart
I think an option for our character to 'romance' (for want of a better word) another npc other than Ranni would have been an interesting choice, especially if said option led to an alternative ending. The Mimic Tear having its own storyline like this could have been fantastic. Alas, this is a Fromsoft game however so we know they don't do 'nice' endings lol
I agree, having an Asimi-related ending would have been INSANE. Can you imagine, the last shot of the game is both you and Asimi on your thrones. Or maybe something more thought-provoking; you see someone who looks like you on the throne, but it's left ambiguous if it really is you who became Elden Lord, or the Mimic Tear!
@@miss_chalice well seeing as mimic pretty much carried me through most of the game, if it came to a final showdown, pretty sure I know which one of us it'd have been sat there lol (unless I cheated & re-equipped my weapons, not that I'd do that of course lmao).
Phylosophically, any mimicry, when stored in memory, informs how we behave after the mimicry changes. These memories, learned lessons, gained fears, they form much of what we experience as 'us'. Given the time these mimics have been alive, it's not unreasonable to assume personality would take shape within them.
@self_harem2125 The Mimics, well, mimic so many lives, personalities, etc that eventually they've experienced so much "life" that they actually stop mimicking and actually gain true emotion and sentience. Its like at first they learned to copy, then they were able to truly experience the real thing. Pretty sure thats what AynenMakino meant, if that makes any more sense to you.
@@TheKotor2309 I remember a time where complimenting a girl about something didn't mean that you wanted to date her or whatever, good times. Nowadays you can't say shit without someone calling you a simp or whatever made up word kids use.
The way you cover the lore and tell these stories is so unique. Even if I've already heard about these topics from other sources, for some reason, the way you present them really makes me think about them from another angle. Really great work!
I recognized her voice from somewhere, looked it up and it's Alexandra Roach who acted in utopia (The good version), glad she's still getting work, god utopia is amazing.
I wish they left this quest line in. I feel like Nakron is a really boring area to run through at times. :/ But she would’ve made it a whole lot more interesting.
You're right it is kind of beautiful and super interesting. That line 'i only want to live' is so powerful. Maybe there is something wrong with me but i would have been super interested in hosting a being like this. This would have been an amazing quest line to have in the game - it would have been cool also to have some more steps before access to the very powerful mimic tear also.
You could have just been completely played by something that just learned to "beg for its life" I would probably kill it unless I know it's some marvel symbiote kind of relationship where it just needs to bond to me to live with no other ulterior motives and actually makes me vastly stronger. But asimi wants to be her own thing later. You're just the bus to get her from A to B. So I wouldn't trust it
I like that he put her near Margit who protects Godrick as he was the weakest of the demigods. It's like she was observing ways to get passed his guards. She needed Godrick's rune after all.
Would you be willing to make a loreplay on Melina and discuss the theory about her potentially being the Gloam-Eyed Queen revered by the Godskin Apostles?
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i wish there were more moments like what melinas response would be it would give her character more human instead of just giving you torrent leveling you up taking you to roundtable hold quoting marika then dying
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This would have been pretty interesting. To have the mimic tear be an actual story line would have been fun. I wonder if any of the cut content will have any sort of appearance in the DLC at all. Obviously it would be very different, but it would be cool to see. They cut a lot of interesting stuff. Also nice outfit for the video! I appreciate your content, you and vaatividya are my favorite FromSoft youtubers. Hopefully more Bloodborne content in the future? 👀
This an absolute shame this was cut. I hated how the mimic tear was just held behind a stonesword key. It should have had its own quest or larger narrative impact for how strong it is.
Thank you! And yes sorry I didn't clarify - this is my Tarnished character I designed in the character creation to resemble what I imagined Asimi to appear like!
I think the feeling of fear of perhaps dying at some point in the uncertain future is different from the fear you feel when you face (inevitable) death. Like a spring. You are afraid that it will run dry at some point, even if you have no indication at the moment that it might run dry any time soon, but then it islowy dries up. The difference between to be worried about something and to fear/dread.
There’s a bunch of quests that really would’ve just enhanced the game that much more and it bewilders me why fromsoftware would’ve cut them. Kale’s quest especially
Damn. I feel like if Asimi was in the game she could've been a whole different class of spell/incantation. Like the mimic tear summon, you could maybe sacrifice a portion of your health to temporarily assume the form of a boss you beat or just copy one of their powerful moves. Like defeating Radahn with her inside you could give you his gravity war cry, or beating a Mariner gives you a spectral geyser, and so on. And as you complete her questline and she gets stronger it could become clear that you're building your ultimate boss fight. When she becomes the Eternal King she could have special moves from every boss you've beaten, making her as difficult a fight as you made her. If you kill her she could drop the Asimi Seal - a solidified version of the tear you could use to get those powers back. Or you could let go of that power and let her live as ruler of Nokron.
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It would have been pretty slick if each chalice gave a small but meaningful bost to HP/FP/Stamina, and unlocked a 'mimic' spell that emulates mimic tear abilities, probably one each for a thrust, slash, and strike damage types, and maybe a shield. When you drink the final chalice and she seperates from you, you would lose the HP/FP/Stamina boneses but keep the spells, and she should be available as an NPC summon for a boss fight or two. Then there would be an optional final stage of her quest line, where you either fight her and get a powerful catalyst for boosting your mimic spells when you defeat her, or choose to aid her in becoming the Eternal Sovereign, and get a powerful Nox spell and can summon her into the Radagon/Elden Beast fight
11:25 The Nox were not punished for playing god. They were punished for serving the first Gloam-eyed queen. After the large meteor strike that destroyed Farum Azula, she stopped following the greater will and the first eternal golden order. She instead conjoined destined death with the Nox worship of night and dark to usher a new age. But Marika wanted to bring back the golden order. So in a night of knives, she killed all the queen's kin and usurped the throne. In response, the elden lord attacked Leyndell, but was killed by Godfrey. The queen escaped to the eternal cities and fashioned the godskin apostles. they went on the god-hunt as vengeance, but were not successful. She also attempted to create another elden lord out of larva tears. A lord of night. Asimi (later Radagon) is that lord. After the war with the giants, and maybe the first Liurnian war, Maliketh found and killed the gloam-eyed queen in Nokron. The greater will turned her corpse into the so called "fingerslayer blade". All evidence of her existence were destroyed and the eternal cities were banished underground for assisting in the god-hunt. The Asimi questline was cut because it was not the tarnished who found and helped Asimi. It was Marika. With her help, Asimi became Radagon, "Eternal king" Radagon. The night of the black knives was orchestrated to retaleate against this coup, and to bring back the order of destined death. But that's cut content.
From what it seems is that this could of been the mimic tears quest line. Instead of us just finding it. Fromsoft knew it was the greatest summon and was going to be the most used so they gave it a persona to go on our journey with us
I wonder if the chalice drinking would be like getting levels from that 1 npc in Dark Souls 3 after dying enough times for them? Then getting the mimic tear or similar summon after
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Great video, it's nice to hear someone explore this quest-line in terms of its emotional impact rather than some of the dryer commentaries I've seen! I hadn't really thought about it before but I wonder if Asimi's fear upon death comes as a result of copying the tarnished so much that fear would be an unknown concept, the tarnished is functionally immortal so has in a very real sense nothing to fear. Ironically and tragically Asimi's fear at the point of death might have been the first thought that was purely 'hers' ... Cue sad music... Something that I also can't shake is the idea of Mercury poisoning and bio magnification being a factor here... It's something that has come up in other souls games (notably Bloodborne) and has real world implications notably in Japan... Asimi seemingly becoming more desperate the more you 'drink'... I dunno... Mercury (or quicksilver) is both a 'pure' element and also one of the foundational alchemic elements it feels like a living avatar (or even outer god) of mercury could be something From soft were considering
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What if the mimic tear evidently rebels and becomes an invader, and then you have to fight her somewhere? Or she'll finally gain enough strength to break from our body and become a bossfight? That would have been awesome.
I wonder what the chalices are and would br located. Maybe item drops from certain mimic tears? And i wonder what kind of power we would actually get from it
Am i the only one who sees a weird connection between the quest and Latenna'a quest? I know theyre different in terms of what you're goal is, but in the end for both quests you: Find an NPC whos modeled after an enemy you dont fight until later in the game Gain their trust and bring them into your party as a talking companion Fight along side you, since Asimi seemed to be the original mimic tear, Comminicate with each other once reaching a certain end game area And both end with said companion needing you to take them somewhere they need I know theyre really minor connections but these two quests have very specific details that happened to line up with each other. Whether its a connection in the lore(I have seen theories that Albinaurics and Mimic tears are both creations of the Nox)or Latenna's quest is the reason Asimi's got canceled, I just feel crazy making the connection
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I imagine it went a bit like this when cutting the Questline : "Lets give Players a really powerful Spirit Ash hidden behind an extensive Quest that requires you to progress Ranni's Quest too (to reach both Eternal Cities)" "Sound great, but what if there's someone who does not want to simp for Ranni? "You're right. Such a person would need all the help they can get for they cannot be normal. Lets give out the Mimic Tear far easier"
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I wish cut content like this would come back in some way via a free update, just clean up some issues or dialogue to make it work without being confusing or some other such problem. Like so many things that get axed just seem so close to being finished and just get dropped.
Sometimes, parasites can create or cause a symbiotic relationship with its host and greatly benefitting it. It can also be a grave mistake, whether on purpose or not.
Sad this quest has been cut, it seems almost complete, and would have shone more light on the eternal cities... Even just as to obtain the Mimic Tear Summon would have been a treat. Also, more Chalices the better ;)
Asimi the mimic tear would have been such a cool questline, shame FS cut it, i found it a bit odd that the mimic tear was the only legendary ash without a name, turns out that was the plan at some point, Would have made the mimic tear fight a lot more dramatic too, since it would not just be some mimic, but your companion Asimi, lord of night
I didn’t know about this cut quest but I’m hoping that it does resurface because this is really interesting It would be so cool if you explored more cut npcs and their quests
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My suspension would be that she was first encountered as one of the mimic tears you found above ground like the troll or bear. I also think that she a has a lot of similarities with homunculus.
“We tarnished her.” was the perfect line. Great writing.
“We elden ringed her”
i find it cute that Melina just casually greets Asimi once she senses no malice towards us, i'm telling those tears have that amorphous rizz
Amorphous Rizz is INSANE
I wouldn't mind being hit with that amorphous rizz
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I wish malenia reacted more to your decisions in the game. Like when you find undeniable proof that Ranni was behind the night of the black knifes. Or when you choose to court her. Or when you feed that one girl Shabriri grapes.
In general i wish there was more interaction between the Tarnished and Melina. It would be nice to speak with her more in general and if you had achieved certain goals before certain times being able to inquire about the circumstances
Melina really needed much more screen time. Like half of her dialogue was optional/ hidden, and honestly she should've at least appeared whenever you wanted to level, it's how you built rapport early on with the other leveling maidens.
I still care about her, but that's mainly because I have a soft spot for paragon characters. I'm hoping the DLC will give her more dialogue and honestly, full on *scenes*
Considering that melina warns you JUST before activating the three fingers ending and then vows to kill you right after activating it, it would be really cool if feeding grapes to hyetta on the leadup gave you dialogue on information on the frenzied flame, why it’s a bad thinf and why you should stop giving grapes to her.
@@12thMovement H O N E S T L Y from her point of view she *just* told the Tarnished they're worthy, only to find them *feeding ghost eyes to a blind woman telling her they're grapes.* She should have organised an intervention at the Roundtable Hold
I really liked the frenzy flame quest and Melinda begging us to not follow that path
I feel like Asimi had a vague understanding of fear at the beginning of her questline, but if we fight and kill her as Asimi, Eternal King, she now knows and understands the weight and severity of true fear, not a mimicry as the Silver Tears had known prior
That is a very plausible explanation; that she learned about fear in theory, but actually experiencing it comes as a great shock to her, like it would anyone. She is more like us than I gave her credit for!
i wish melina had a role like johnny in cyberpunk it would have been cool to see her input on important events and have her interract with the tarnished more
Aw man that's a great comparison - love Mr Silverhand. You are right thought, I think Melina could have been implemented a bit better and smoother, like Johnny.
What if Melina and Johnny Silverhand swapped places?
@@AutismGaming489Ngl that would be epic! Wake up Tarnished we got a Leyndell to burn. The Erdtree would be Arasaka tower lmao. Kind of interesting, because the Arasaka logo looks like a tree.
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I remember somebody floating the suggestion that Melina should have a unique line of dialogue for every site of grace, or at the very least you should be able to speak to her at every grace and not just at specific instances. They also wanted her to at least show up every time we level up, and I agree with all of that.
I really wish they would have kept this questline in. It's so fascinating, and has some interesting parallels to Rykard and the great snake. A parasite of fire... and a parasite of liquid.
That's a really nice comparison; that Rykard is the parasite inside of the snake. Never thought about that before!
They could not. Asimi is what became Radagon.
How do you know that@@armandaneshjoo
@@thedoomslayer5863 quest has paralles between the player and the mimic tear with marika and radagon
Mimic tears were created in the try to create a lord, based on that, i think, Asimi may be one of these tries, but instead of being a lord, she can possess others, others who can be a Lord, could be a excellent way to introduce another ending like "Lord of the Night City" or "Lord of the Silver Tear"
I think in development, it made sense to have a quest line to obtain the mimic tear summon. I'm hoping the DLC does feature some more lore about the Eternal City, especially the giant skeletons on the thrones.
I'd honestly prefer if the DLC focused on expanding upon preexisting lore and characters. Elden Ring has as much, if not more, depth to its lore than past Fromsoft games. Yet we understand relatively little about the Lands Between
@@PracticallypreposterousWe didn't know a lot of Dark Souls 1 lore when it first came out, DLC explained a lot but it was still very mysterious. Elden Ring will most likely have a sequel sometime in the future, i have no doubt about that.
@@Noizzed here's to hoping
@@Noizzed Yeah but DS3 went in a completely different direction, we wanted to know more about pontiff/cinder/consumed king and untended graves but we instead got the end of the world and gael
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Given the recurring motif of the double-identity in Elden Ring, I find very interesting the idea of this quest, which seems to fully realise the thematic potential of the rather underwhelming mimic tear bossfight. A shame she was cut.
I’d wager her name is reminiscent of Assimilation. Possibly being a different type of silver tear meant to bind itself to another in order to become something/someone more.
oh my god that's amazing. I never made that connection to her name. Awesome point !!!
Imho i think the Mimic Tear would be the most logical. For some reason it's the only Spirit Ash that costs HP to summon. Maybe "drinking" her gives you an HP boost, and then to summon her into battle, costs you that same amount of HP.
That's how i would have done it. Then maybe used the "rune of death" grey shaded health to stop you healing back to where you were?
Yessss. *_Drink_* in her _juices!_ 6:03
the cut content from this game is really interesting but my faviroute has to be karles cut questline, the end of it is so good. I think it would make a great video if you decided to do one too
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Yes! Kalé's quest getting axed is absolutely criminal imo. I will consider doing some more cut content videos in this style !
This is the content that I’m most upset about it being cut. It would add so much depth to the mimic tear.
Radagon and Marika is what this story is reminding me of was Radagon a mimic tear like her ...... That's one way they could become one
Ah yes I have seen this possible connection discussed! It's very plausible, especially as it does fit with Asimi also being called Eternal King, the counterpart to the Eternal Queen!
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This just goes to fuel my theory that Radagon himself is a silver tear of Marika… even Marika herself says the dialogue “you have yet to become me. Yet to become a god.” And herself is rumored to be from the eternal cities
I've had the same theory. It would also explain the banishment of the Nox and possibly the destruction of the Nameless Eternal City at Deeproot by Astel if they tampered with the idea of copying the chosen God of the land as ordained by the higher power that was the Elden Beast.
I feel the same way
Its the only theory that holds ground dealt
Then again, perhaps they originally had that in mind for Radagon/Marika, but then that changed and so they abandoned this questline along with that plot point.
Though who knows, maybe more will be revealed in the DLC. I'd really like it if they added stuff to the main world and not just new areas as well, such as more interactions with Melina, so I'd like to see some cut npcs/questlines make it in too.
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Honestly, From should have just removed the silver tear summon until they could patch in this quest. It would have been one of the best questlines in the game.
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She basically acts like a IRL souls maiden. Like the fire keeper from ds3. That soft spoken soft mannered feminine figure. But instead of "leveling us up" she lore dumps
asimi's questline is one of the three questlines that were cut but i wish it was still in the game; Hers, Kalé's, and the Dream Brew guy
I'm bummed about Kale's because you could have done a choice thing where you either choose to become Lord of Frenzy or give him hope of a better world sending him to Stormveil and looking for(or rescuing some in inconvenient places moving them to easier ones near Grace sites) other merchant members with the prize being that they all now carry all of the same materials and gear without need to kill them for bell bearings as well as new dialogue similar to Boc* where they call you Lord now.
* I'd have also expanded Boc's questline with him moving to Stormveil(I'd have made the area like Majula where it fills up with friendly NPC's) and is now able to craft certain pieces of gear if you have the right items(like altering one lordsword piece into another or craft pieces from a set using extra pieces).
“Whether you risk everything for glory or offer all that you have left, with boundless compassion. No one can foretell the consequences of your good intentions.”
Perfectly fits with her questline and utterly breaks my heart
This has been so fascinating! I never knew about this NPC. Another very well put together and presented video. ❤
I think an option for our character to 'romance' (for want of a better word) another npc other than Ranni would have been an interesting choice, especially if said option led to an alternative ending. The Mimic Tear having its own storyline like this could have been fantastic. Alas, this is a Fromsoft game however so we know they don't do 'nice' endings lol
I agree, having an Asimi-related ending would have been INSANE. Can you imagine, the last shot of the game is both you and Asimi on your thrones. Or maybe something more thought-provoking; you see someone who looks like you on the throne, but it's left ambiguous if it really is you who became Elden Lord, or the Mimic Tear!
@@miss_chalice well seeing as mimic pretty much carried me through most of the game, if it came to a final showdown, pretty sure I know which one of us it'd have been sat there lol (unless I cheated & re-equipped my weapons, not that I'd do that of course lmao).
It's a tragedy that this quest line was cut...
Phylosophically, any mimicry, when stored in memory, informs how we behave after the mimicry changes. These memories, learned lessons, gained fears, they form much of what we experience as 'us'. Given the time these mimics have been alive, it's not unreasonable to assume personality would take shape within them.
Having trouble understanding - could you possibly restate 😭
@self_harem2125 The Mimics, well, mimic so many lives, personalities, etc that eventually they've experienced so much "life" that they actually stop mimicking and actually gain true emotion and sentience.
Its like at first they learned to copy, then they were able to truly experience the real thing.
Pretty sure thats what AynenMakino meant, if that makes any more sense to you.
@@CorvusSolitario Yeah that's pretty much the gist of it. Sorry, my verbiage can be a bit unusual.
Let's hope that the DLC brings some of that cut content in one form or another. Cool vid as always.
You are delivering quality content, Chalice! Continue the great work! :)
Thank you so much!!! I will keep trying my best :)
Your voice with elden ring lore is literally the perfect video
She’s not going to date you.
@@TheKotor2309 I remember a time where complimenting a girl about something didn't mean that you wanted to date her or whatever, good times. Nowadays you can't say shit without someone calling you a simp or whatever made up word kids use.
Thx 😊
@@armoredlumberjack1999ppl that say shit like “simp” or “she not gonna fuck you” to normal compliments are probably just projecting
@@TheKotor2309
So whenever i compliment a woman it means that i m in love with her?
hmmm so kindess = love. Weird generation.
The way you cover the lore and tell these stories is so unique. Even if I've already heard about these topics from other sources, for some reason, the way you present them really makes me think about them from another angle. Really great work!
I recognized her voice from somewhere, looked it up and it's Alexandra Roach who acted in utopia (The good version), glad she's still getting work, god utopia is amazing.
I would Kill for a 3rd season, but it just wouldn’t be the same. Such a great show!
@@syrew900 agree, such a shame about the show, but at least they let it go at while it was still good
The good version indeed! She was also good in Hunderby.
I hope you realize the chaos you released upon yourself with the introduction of the "Mother Chalice" 🤣
I wish they left this quest line in. I feel like Nakron is a really boring area to run through at times. :/ But she would’ve made it a whole lot more interesting.
You're right it is kind of beautiful and super interesting. That line 'i only want to live' is so powerful. Maybe there is something wrong with me but i would have been super interested in hosting a being like this. This would have been an amazing quest line to have in the game - it would have been cool also to have some more steps before access to the very powerful mimic tear also.
You could have just been completely played by something that just learned to "beg for its life"
I would probably kill it unless I know it's some marvel symbiote kind of relationship where it just needs to bond to me to live with no other ulterior motives and actually makes me vastly stronger.
But asimi wants to be her own thing later. You're just the bus to get her from A to B. So I wouldn't trust it
as someone with DID, i thought it was pretty cool to see Asimi. The way Melina talks to her is so sweet my heartt
I like that he put her near Margit who protects Godrick as he was the weakest of the demigods. It's like she was observing ways to get passed his guards. She needed Godrick's rune after all.
Very well done, Miss Chalice! Very clever sponsor presentation! Thanks!
Would you be willing to make a loreplay on Melina and discuss the theory about her potentially being the Gloam-Eyed Queen revered by the Godskin Apostles?
That, was beautiful. You are a Lore Queen, Miss Chalice.
I was a little anxious on when you would upload again. Glad your back.
The only thing better than your "Elden Ring " lore videos, is listening to your voice! Please, never quit doing what you do, love. The level of commitment that you put into every aspect of your Elden Ring lore videos, is truly unique. Thank you!
i wish there were more moments like what melinas response would be it would give her character more human instead of just giving you torrent leveling you up taking you to roundtable hold quoting marika then dying
rlly was expecting u to talk about this theme since Maxitous a spanish souls creator discussed bout it. As always the lore explaining and the voice are marvelous keep up the good work🔥🔥
LETS GOOOOO! love some Loreplay and lore videos!!!!
Incredibly well done video Chalice! I haven’t been playing any video games for quite a while, and as a result haven’t really been watching your videos. Even without playing for months this video was incredibly interesting!
"We tarnished her" gosh damn that's good writing! Absolute mic drop
This would have been pretty interesting. To have the mimic tear be an actual story line would have been fun. I wonder if any of the cut content will have any sort of appearance in the DLC at all. Obviously it would be very different, but it would be cool to see. They cut a lot of interesting stuff.
Also nice outfit for the video! I appreciate your content, you and vaatividya are my favorite FromSoft youtubers. Hopefully more Bloodborne content in the future? 👀
Thank you so much! Really happy you enjoyed!! And yes don't you worry, I am cooking some more Bloodborne up :)
@@miss_chalice Happy to hear it!! Thank you :)
In line with all the parasitism references, Asimi also kind of reminds me of Mitochondria Eve from Parasite Eve.
This an absolute shame this was cut. I hated how the mimic tear was just held behind a stonesword key. It should have had its own quest or larger narrative impact for how strong it is.
"We tarnished her." That hit hard.
I always find your story telling very interesting. I think you will have plenty more when the elden ring dlc finaly comes out.
YO this cut content is HUGE and very intriguing! thank you for sharing it with us! ^-^
Great video! Is this model an asset from the game or something you created for the video? I think you spoke to this but it wasn't fully clear to me.
Thank you! And yes sorry I didn't clarify - this is my Tarnished character I designed in the character creation to resemble what I imagined Asimi to appear like!
@@miss_chalice Thanks for clarifying. Very well done on the character design. I would have believed it to be an original asset.
I think the feeling of fear of perhaps dying at some point in the uncertain future is different from the fear you feel when you face (inevitable) death.
Like a spring. You are afraid that it will run dry at some point, even if you have no indication at the moment that it might run dry any time soon, but then it islowy dries up.
The difference between to be worried about something and to fear/dread.
25:40 wow DEEP RESPECT for calling out all your subscribers instead of just putting them in a quick credits montage. You’re awesome
Beautifully delivered story. Thanks for another wonderful video.
There’s a bunch of quests that really would’ve just enhanced the game that much more and it bewilders me why fromsoftware would’ve cut them. Kale’s quest especially
This quest line is too sus to be in the game.
@@AutismGaming489 Bro there's a guy that eats peoples asses or something in the game, nothing can out-sus that
@@AutismGaming489 There s a guy who literally fucked a dragon.
The game would be delayed. And that would cost a lot of time and money. It might even over work employees
Always does my heart good to see you miss chalice
Damn. I feel like if Asimi was in the game she could've been a whole different class of spell/incantation. Like the mimic tear summon, you could maybe sacrifice a portion of your health to temporarily assume the form of a boss you beat or just copy one of their powerful moves. Like defeating Radahn with her inside you could give you his gravity war cry, or beating a Mariner gives you a spectral geyser, and so on. And as you complete her questline and she gets stronger it could become clear that you're building your ultimate boss fight. When she becomes the Eternal King she could have special moves from every boss you've beaten, making her as difficult a fight as you made her. If you kill her she could drop the Asimi Seal - a solidified version of the tear you could use to get those powers back. Or you could let go of that power and let her live as ruler of Nokron.
"We tarnished her" sounds like those jokes about "John Darksoul and his famous quote; Every Dark has its Soul"
I am addicted to these videos, I save them to watch and listen to before bed. It’s so informative and relaxing, I end up falling asleep but I rewatch them when I get to work
It would have been pretty slick if each chalice gave a small but meaningful bost to HP/FP/Stamina, and unlocked a 'mimic' spell that emulates mimic tear abilities, probably one each for a thrust, slash, and strike damage types, and maybe a shield. When you drink the final chalice and she seperates from you, you would lose the HP/FP/Stamina boneses but keep the spells, and she should be available as an NPC summon for a boss fight or two. Then there would be an optional final stage of her quest line, where you either fight her and get a powerful catalyst for boosting your mimic spells when you defeat her, or choose to aid her in becoming the Eternal Sovereign, and get a powerful Nox spell and can summon her into the Radagon/Elden Beast fight
11:25 The Nox were not punished for playing god. They were punished for serving the first Gloam-eyed queen.
After the large meteor strike that destroyed Farum Azula, she stopped following the greater will and the first eternal golden order. She instead conjoined destined death with the Nox worship of night and dark to usher a new age. But Marika wanted to bring back the golden order. So in a night of knives, she killed all the queen's kin and usurped the throne. In response, the elden lord attacked Leyndell, but was killed by Godfrey. The queen escaped to the eternal cities and fashioned the godskin apostles. they went on the god-hunt as vengeance, but were not successful. She also attempted to create another elden lord out of larva tears. A lord of night. Asimi (later Radagon) is that lord.
After the war with the giants, and maybe the first Liurnian war, Maliketh found and killed the gloam-eyed queen in Nokron. The greater will turned her corpse into the so called "fingerslayer blade". All evidence of her existence were destroyed and the eternal cities were banished underground for assisting in the god-hunt. The Asimi questline was cut because it was not the tarnished who found and helped Asimi. It was Marika. With her help, Asimi became Radagon, "Eternal king" Radagon.
The night of the black knives was orchestrated to retaleate against this coup, and to bring back the order of destined death. But that's cut content.
From what it seems is that this could of been the mimic tears quest line. Instead of us just finding it. Fromsoft knew it was the greatest summon and was going to be the most used so they gave it a persona to go on our journey with us
I wonder if the chalice drinking would be like getting levels from that 1 npc in Dark Souls 3 after dying enough times for them? Then getting the mimic tear or similar summon after
That questline would also have been a great analogy to Radagon and Merika. Could have allowed for some interesting thoughts
It's been a long time seens I've watch any of your videos (last time I watched was at the peak of Elden Ring hype) so happy to see a lot of people are watching your videos and still the sound quality is immaculate I always feel sleepy cause of the soft and beautiful voice and every video is so detailed sometimes I don't need to speculate anymore u have the answer already
Great video, it's nice to hear someone explore this quest-line in terms of its emotional impact rather than some of the dryer commentaries I've seen!
I hadn't really thought about it before but I wonder if Asimi's fear upon death comes as a result of copying the tarnished so much that fear would be an unknown concept, the tarnished is functionally immortal so has in a very real sense nothing to fear. Ironically and tragically Asimi's fear at the point of death might have been the first thought that was purely 'hers' ... Cue sad music...
Something that I also can't shake is the idea of Mercury poisoning and bio magnification being a factor here... It's something that has come up in other souls games (notably Bloodborne) and has real world implications notably in Japan... Asimi seemingly becoming more desperate the more you 'drink'... I dunno... Mercury (or quicksilver) is both a 'pure' element and also one of the foundational alchemic elements it feels like a living avatar (or even outer god) of mercury could be something From soft were considering
"The Chalice will quench my thirst, rejuvenate my flesh..." 😏
I hadn't seen anything about cut content from Elden Ring yet, and now I really need to see it all, hahahaha! Great video!!!!! I hope your presence on RUclips continues to grow more and more. Love you ❤
What if the mimic tear evidently rebels and becomes an invader, and then you have to fight her somewhere? Or she'll finally gain enough strength to break from our body and become a bossfight? That would have been awesome.
I wonder what the chalices are and would br located. Maybe item drops from certain mimic tears? And i wonder what kind of power we would actually get from it
Definitely one of my favorite videos of yours!!!! So, so good
This would have been the perfect quest for the mimic tear.
Am i the only one who sees a weird connection between the quest and Latenna'a quest? I know theyre different in terms of what you're goal is, but in the end for both quests you:
Find an NPC whos modeled after an enemy you dont fight until later in the game
Gain their trust and bring them into your party as a talking companion
Fight along side you, since Asimi seemed to be the original mimic tear,
Comminicate with each other once reaching a certain end game area
And both end with said companion needing you to take them somewhere they need
I know theyre really minor connections but these two quests have very specific details that happened to line up with each other. Whether its a connection in the lore(I have seen theories that Albinaurics and Mimic tears are both creations of the Nox)or Latenna's quest is the reason Asimi's got canceled, I just feel crazy making the connection
The multiple chalices sound like the sacred tears we find at most churches
This is probably how we got the mimic tear originally
A parasitic mimic waifu that gives powers? Sign me up
I know this video is a bit older now, but I had to comment to say how much I appreciated the humorous NordVPN sponsor section. Having Gideon be compared to a keylogger made me spit out my drink, which I am now cleaning up. Well done Chalice!
She wanted to answer that question: Can a tear become a lord?
When Asimi said "Our Mother Chalice🙏" i felt that 😔💜
Sounds like one hell of a character. Would love to learn or even see more
Why did they cut this quest though? It's beautiful. Thank you for narrating it in an equally beautiful way.
She also hesitate's to say "live in fear of death" maybe a hint that she isn't being honest with us.
It would be very nice to see this come to light in the dlc.
I imagine it went a bit like this when cutting the Questline :
"Lets give Players a really powerful Spirit Ash hidden behind an extensive Quest that requires you to progress Ranni's Quest too (to reach both Eternal Cities)"
"Sound great, but what if there's someone who does not want to simp for Ranni?
"You're right. Such a person would need all the help they can get for they cannot be normal. Lets give out the Mimic Tear far easier"
This questline was ripped away and was tarnished but I will always cherish my Mimic Tear
You're just the best.
Not just any lore channel...
You are the one and only, MC.
I believe no one can capture the soul or essence of what you do... Not eveb reach the half of it.
It has that certain feeling.. just like playing dark souls for the first time,,, all the time...
I wish cut content like this would come back in some way via a free update, just clean up some issues or dialogue to make it work without being confusing or some other such problem. Like so many things that get axed just seem so close to being finished and just get dropped.
I wonder why this was cut. It would've been an intense quest. I like ones that are complicated like this.
The living embodiment of a “come play my lord” ad and yeah I would have fallen for it.
Sometimes, parasites can create or cause a symbiotic relationship with its host and greatly benefitting it. It can also be a grave mistake, whether on purpose or not.
0:10 that's a good shout, I'll be back in... a bit
Sad this quest has been cut, it seems almost complete, and would have shone more light on the eternal cities... Even just as to obtain the Mimic Tear Summon would have been a treat. Also, more Chalices the better ;)
I love how you dive into the lore with philosophical perspective. I'm a recently new sub but your takes are wonderful
Honestly if she isn't hindering my quest to become elden lord then im happy to help do whatever I suppose.
How sad that this content wasn't included in the game.
Asimi the mimic tear would have been such a cool questline, shame FS cut it,
i found it a bit odd that the mimic tear was the only legendary ash without a name, turns out that was the plan at some point,
Would have made the mimic tear fight a lot more dramatic too, since it would not just be some mimic,
but your companion Asimi, lord of night
I didn’t know about this cut quest but I’m hoping that it does resurface because this is really interesting
It would be so cool if you explored more cut npcs and their quests
Glad I could show you this cut content! I found it really interesting, so happy you did too! And yes I would love to do more cut content!