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  • @abigcupofwater
    @abigcupofwater Год назад +663

    Something to note about Rennala is her similarity to the Japanese myth Ubume, women who died during childbirth and are too devastated to pass onto the afterlife. They're usually depicted as hunched over and clutching a baby much like how Rennala holds and obssesses over the egg. The thematic ties she has to childbirth make me pretty confident this is the inspiration.
    What got me was realizing the depiction of the Ubume in Nioh is clutching a large chunk of amrita (Nioh's magic stones everyone is fighting over) instead of a child, and it looks exactly like Rennala's amber egg. Maybe it's coincidence, but what if?

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Год назад +176

      Ooooh that's an awesome comparison! I just did some reading on this yokai and i agree with the similarities you drew ! How heartbreaking the delusions of a grieving mother are. Thank you for sharing this with me and everyone

    • @AZodiacCancer
      @AZodiacCancer Год назад +15

      I thought of that mob from Nioh 2 as I read this and saw you mentioned it.

    • @Higley1234
      @Higley1234 Год назад +3

      Based on tarnished archeologist's findings, it wouldn't surprise me if rennala's behavior was taken directly from a human legend. It seems all of the inspiration for the game was taken directly from real human history

    • @romerobritto9094
      @romerobritto9094 Год назад +4

      I think it has some similarity and inspiration from Artemisia queen of the Carians, from real world history

    • @SuperDryDiver
      @SuperDryDiver Год назад +4

      The Japanese lore with the moon runs deep with their culture.

  • @zenebean
    @zenebean Год назад +104

    I love the poem at the end, that is such a great touch!
    I like to think Radagon truly loved Rennala both because it is more romantic and because, otherwise, Rennala looks like a complete fool for someone so incredibly intelligent. Radagon seemed to really love parts of his life in Liurnia too, considering all his work with sorceries, creating the Radagon Icon, and having his own magic dog. Radagon is just eternally loyal to the Golden Order, so he put his belief in it over his love of Renalla, no matter how deep it was. This is understandably heart-breaking enough to cause the kind of grief we see in Rennala, and it was probably not helped by all of her children lost to her (Radahn's rot, Ranni's bodily death, and Rykard's vore).
    Radagon could have given the amber egg completely out of kindness, and it just backfired horribly as this magic combined with her grief to completely drive her mad. So he sent his loyal dog to help guard Rennala, and bent himself completely into the Golden Order, turning his love for sorceries and philosophy into the fundamentalist school.
    This is just my headcanon. With a world a vast (and a timeline as long and fuzzy) as in this game, there is room for many interpretations

    • @leviadragon99
      @leviadragon99 11 месяцев назад +13

      Sadly, intelligent people are not immune to abusive relationships. no-one is immune to being manipulated under the right circumstances...

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang 9 месяцев назад +6

      I think from Miriel's dialogue alone it is kind of explicitly said that Renalla and Radagon truly did love each other at some point. Maybe he still loves her to some extent if he has any will of his own left anymore.

    • @Melanias_Consort
      @Melanias_Consort 6 месяцев назад

      No he did not. He legit left her with an egg that gave birth to useless "sweetings" that can't walk and act retarded. And he loves her so much he has a statue built of himself to remember him by. It sounds more like he loved himself, as all God's do.

    • @KDB349
      @KDB349 2 месяца назад +1

      I like this. I refuse to believe Marika/Radagon just came up with this plan of having Radagon sweep Rennala off her feet just to break her heart. I want to believe Radagon did love her.

  • @anonoymous9991
    @anonoymous9991 Год назад +245

    The most overlooked fact and tidbit about Rennala is that in her youth, she was as much a warrior as Godfrey in his heyday. She founded the Carian Royal Knights and conquered Liunaria with both charm and might.

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang 9 месяцев назад +26

      Kind of sad that she was reduced to a shadow of her former self by Marika. I hate Marika.

    • @shiny_edin
      @shiny_edin 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@jungtothehuimanglmao what

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@shiny_edin Marika is the reason Radagon had to leave Rennala in the first place. That is, if he has a will if his own at all. It could be Marika used Radagon just to take Rennala out, but idk. Either way, Marika sucks

    • @Warsm1th12
      @Warsm1th12 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@shiny_edinlmao are you slow

    • @calebpaschal6259
      @calebpaschal6259 9 месяцев назад +3

      But radagon is marika

  • @logeyperogi1805
    @logeyperogi1805 Год назад +24

    Tragic, she was a queen, she was cold and powerful like the moon, but when she was with Radagon, when she had children with him, she was so happy, she was warmed up by the stars that joined her in the night sky
    Then Radagon left to become Marika’s next consort, her children going with him, the stars leaving the moon alone in the cold night sky

  • @leviadragon99
    @leviadragon99 11 месяцев назад +10

    It is worth noting that there is another interpretation of that Red Hound in the debate parlour. That parlour is full of bones, and doesn't seem to be in active use for its presumed purpose... the wolf almost seems like an occupying force in that context, there not as Rennala's protector, but her Warden. It certainly didn't seem to do anything to prevent her imprisonment at the very least.
    Likewise, the Amber Egg could be seen as a curse of sorts, fostering an obsession, could such a thing have been intentional? Neutralizing a potential Political Rival in the Lands Between, who had once fought his armies to a standstill could indeed be a cynical act of manipulation. Considering what we know of Radagon's other actions, choices and beliefs, I find it hard to imagine him acting in such a genuine fashion.

  • @jessebrown1996
    @jessebrown1996 Год назад +91

    The idea of Rennala rebirthing Radagon is an interesting one, like what if he wants to be separate from Marika and this will finally give him the means?

    • @Aleph-Noll
      @Aleph-Noll Год назад +22

      like how ranni needed to be reborn to escape the greater will, radagon wanted to do the same but couldnt for whatever reason

    • @leviadragon99
      @leviadragon99 11 месяцев назад +11

      Ehh, I don't see it, he was the one simping harder for the greater will, and clearly the one in Control of that body by the time we encounter them.

    • @mysticfox1663
      @mysticfox1663 10 месяцев назад +9

      Seems more likely that the Greater Will called him back and forced them together to reel Marika in

    • @jannafrancis7452
      @jannafrancis7452 7 месяцев назад

      What evidence do we actually have for his simpage?
      The GO Fundamentalists were originally a sect based upon Scholarship, and the Sealing of the Erdtree directly goes against the Two Fingers- and if their word is to be trusted- The Greater Will.
      The Golden Order Greatsword is a good counter to this, what with it being potentially a reforged Moonlight Greatsword. Though that could be him remaking it to keep it, and the Japanese is more ambiguous- stating it could be made to mimic the sword instead

    • @lordbertox4056
      @lordbertox4056 3 месяца назад

      ​@@leviadragon99An empyrean can't just decide to disobey the greater will

  • @chrishoward3733
    @chrishoward3733 Год назад +8

    I always thought the juveniles inability to walk is an indication of infancy and they don’t live long enough to learn how to walk

  • @feargodfearme
    @feargodfearme Год назад +32

    This woman could have been casted to voice act in this game. Her voice is so soothing and soft. It brings something to these Elden ring lore videos that are unmatched 💛 it’s like listening to Ranni

  • @Winterfang
    @Winterfang Год назад +31

    There's a fun theory mentioning how Radagon is working like a Cuckoo bird. He has the Cuckoo Army after all.
    A Cuckoo bird will go to a nest, destroy the Eggs and replace it with its own. Leaving the victim to raise the Cuckoo as her own.
    Radagon did sir 3 redhead children and gave Rennalla an egg. You could see it as a form of infiltration. Though there's no mention of the lore describing Radagon as a particularly evil person.

    • @mysticfox1663
      @mysticfox1663 10 месяцев назад +6

      I like this theory. I also saw someone mentioning that if he wanted he could have used the celestial dew when he left Renalla to not leave her devastated. Instead he gave her the amber egg to obsess over, essentially taking her out as a player in the politics and power of The Lands Between

    • @LCJS_8
      @LCJS_8 10 месяцев назад +2

      True, but if we think about radagon as marika, marika might have cuckoo'd/wanted to use rennala to birth her children since rennala was the most highly regarded sorceress.

    • @lemongan
      @lemongan 8 месяцев назад +3

      The cuckoo night were not Radagon's but Raya's lucaria, which wanted it's own version of a Carian Knight before Rennala bewitched them with her moon

    • @jannafrancis7452
      @jannafrancis7452 7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a cool theory, though I believe the Cuckoo Knights actually belong to Raya Lucaria itself, if not once Caria. The heraldry mostly refers to Carian / Astrologer Belief, not Golden Order Beliefs.

  • @mexxikanboi
    @mexxikanboi Год назад +47

    Always a wonderful day when your lore and voice graces my algorithm 😁 wonderful video as always Chalice! I’ve always been fascinated by Rennala’s backstory and I think you did a great job exploring one of my personal favorite Fromsoft characters.

  • @ShardofWant
    @ShardofWant Год назад +9

    Just to note the hair in the egg is actually from the sweetings, the light just makes it look red. Originally rennalad egg was going to have fetus like sweetings in the egg, but it was removed. However, the can still be seen in the cutscene model.

  • @berylman
    @berylman Год назад +27

    Your lore videos are so great... you should seriously consider doing audiobooks. You've got the voice that can tell lullaby stories to adults

  • @lupinsensei7456
    @lupinsensei7456 Год назад +149

    I'm pretty positive that Rennala is trying to rebirth Ranni, but she keeps failing because her soul is trapped in the puppet. The red hairs in the egg are probably hers.

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 Год назад +8

      They already peel the skin from the egg model, whatever details there are just left over from the other egg models with the scholars children in it.

    • @maxmazza2987
      @maxmazza2987 Год назад +7

      Ranni's body is on top of the Liurnia Divine Tower, though.

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 Год назад +1

      Ranni hasn't died yet when radagon leftm

    • @Lurge_sp75
      @Lurge_sp75 Год назад +1

      ​@maxmazza2987 at this time I believe it's because from rennalas pov, ranni had killed herself but doesn't know that she's a puppet now

    • @jrdn48
      @jrdn48 Год назад +18

      She knows that Ranni is alive. When Rennala is defeated, her last sane words were "little Ranni, my dear daughter....weave thy night into being"

  • @atomatopia1
    @atomatopia1 Год назад +12

    I like how the story at the end depicts a moon and sun rarely seeing each other, but in reality the moon has to be illuminated by the sun or else we don’t see it, which happens more often than not. Not to mention the moon being visible during the day quite often

    • @MikaelTheRedeemed
      @MikaelTheRedeemed Год назад +2

      But the moon has it's own light. What do you mean?

    • @DragoonPaladin
      @DragoonPaladin Год назад

      @@MikaelTheRedeemed Moonlight is actually just the light from the sun bouncing off the moon. No sunlight = no moonlight.
      Like a crescent shaped moon, that's just partial blockage of the sunlight from our planet being in the way. ✌️

    • @Blue_Azure101
      @Blue_Azure101 Год назад +1

      The moon directly impacts the seas too or there’s no life

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@MikaelTheRedeemedBrother, I hope this comment is sarcasm.

  • @MissFlyingUnicorn
    @MissFlyingUnicorn Год назад +10

    Thank you for this one, Chalice! Always love your lore insights. I really like Rennala and the drama surrounding her relationship with Radagon, and your examination of it was super interesting!
    On that note, I think the fact that he gave her the amber egg may well have been a curse, rather than a blessing - perhaps a deliberate way of undermining the power of Carian royals through Rennala's grief. The conflict between Caria and the Academy may never have come to pass if not for Radagon leaving, and we know Radagon is himself a very strong supporter of the Golden Order, so it makes sense for him to rid himself of the Academy, who was setting up to become a strong force at play and whose magic was against the Order's (as mentioned in the video!)...

  • @chadofwar6554
    @chadofwar6554 Год назад +19

    I look forward to your lore videos. Your voice is so relaxing and has put me me at ease when the world makes me want to break something. Cant wait for the DLC and more lore theory crafting.

  • @bbblaesing
    @bbblaesing Год назад +77

    In my opinon, the gift of the amber egg is actually kind of a white elephant. Radagon gifted it to Rennala to keep her obedient to the golden order and to distract her from her true destiny as Queen of the Moon. It has literally made her mind go soft and she has become a shell of the person she once was, rebirthing her scholars over and over into puddles of nascent, obedient children. Zullie the witch has a video analyzing the egg too, there are actually bug eggs in the egg itself which might elude to corruption involving the scarlet rot adherents (spitballing here, I think there needs to be more analysis.) Just some extra food for thought, great video but I wanted to add this!

  • @isaacsudduth1574
    @isaacsudduth1574 Год назад +8

    Here's a thought that came to mind about the amber egg. As we all know, Radagon is Marika, but there is a theory that during the war with the giants, Marika was cursed by the giants and the mark of this curse is her golden hair turning red. Perhaps in an attempt to free herself of the curse, Marika used the rune of the unborn in the amber egg and created a being from her own flesh who would be the carrier of the curse. That would explain why some of Radagon's hair is within the amber egg, because he was born of it. That's just my theory and I could be wrong, but it would make a little bit of sense.

  • @Elgarnan1
    @Elgarnan1 Год назад +696

    Renalla = Moon Mommy

    • @samf.s.7731
      @samf.s.7731 Год назад +24

      It's true. The fandom has a point when they call her a MILF.

    • @jarlwhiterun7478
      @jarlwhiterun7478 Год назад +35

      ​@@samf.s.7731 cringe

    • @liisahmanni
      @liisahmanni Год назад +41

      ​@@jarlwhiterun7478Fringe.

    • @AutismGaming489
      @AutismGaming489 Год назад

      Fia = Death Mommy
      Malenia = Rot Mommy
      Sellen = Witch Mommy

    • @Liam-jx4zb
      @Liam-jx4zb Год назад +6

      Moony or moomy 😂

  • @xiledturtle766
    @xiledturtle766 Год назад +4

    that last bit was beautifully said, your voice is so soothing, love your vid. I feel like Rennala has that postpartum depression.

  • @noobist85
    @noobist85 Год назад +3

    So much story I missed in my playthrough, but I'm glad you're keeping up with the stories. Beautifully done. Keep it up😉

  • @sanelchanel5820
    @sanelchanel5820 Год назад +2

    your voice is so serene and soothing I actually opened up this video not only to learn but to help me catch up with sleep ❤️ I love these lore videos!

  • @BlackHermit
    @BlackHermit Год назад +2

    25:09 "Lunacy" - perfect word choice!

  • @doomrider7
    @doomrider7 Год назад +2

    A theory I've had and seen be brought up was that the egg might represent a stillborn fourth child between Renalla and Radagon and Renalla's obsession with rebirth is that she feels it was that event that led to the dissolvement of their marriage.

  • @Bassario
    @Bassario Год назад +1

    That's cute how you started with Rennala both times, first youtube video and first full time one. I really enjoy that part of the game too and her saga is as interesting as it is devastating.

  • @PockyBoy9
    @PockyBoy9 Год назад +2

    Omg i can’t believe it’s been a year already ! So happy you continued to make videos can’t wait to see you cover the DLC ❤️

  • @M12Z0
    @M12Z0 Год назад +3

    Happy aniversary Challice 🥰, thanks for bringing such amazing content and creating so many interesting theories

  • @insertedgynamehere___969
    @insertedgynamehere___969 Год назад +5

    Well, the hair we see in the Amber egg is left over bits of the lullaby singers model (the reborn singers in her boss room) that used to be stuffed In it.
    That is cut content so make of it what you will.
    Source: Zullie the witch

  • @adrianeduardogomezsanchez1538
    @adrianeduardogomezsanchez1538 Год назад +3

    Good stuff to listen to while painting miniatures. Also, about the juvenile scholars at 23:00, my own take on them is Rennala's failed attempts at duplicating her own genetic code into rebirthing her own self, a better self.

  • @lg_here
    @lg_here Год назад +3

    As I've gotten more and more knowledgeable on the world and lore of Elden Ring, I've come to realize how fitting the name "the Lands Between" really is. There is no one greater power, there is no one solution, everyone is struggling and everyone has some outer god they follow looking for a solution. All have good reasoning, yet all have great consequences. It's a great depiction of how unfair and vast life is.

  • @fallenmind153
    @fallenmind153 Год назад +1

    excellent video! zullie the witch has some good theories about the egg as well, as always the more you look into elden ring lore the more questions you find lol.

  • @AutismGaming489
    @AutismGaming489 Год назад +3

    I noticed that there is a theme of parentage, especially motherhood, in Elden Ring. Rennala is obsessed with rebirth. Fia wishes to rebirth Godwyn. Radagon left for the milk. Gideon disowns Nepheli. Edgar regrets putting his duty over his daughter.

    • @N0ctisV3il
      @N0ctisV3il Год назад +1

      lmao at the radagon part

  • @Genasidal
    @Genasidal Год назад +4

    Great video as always Chalice!
    Congrats on the full-time!!
    Always loved the visual motifs and symbolisms of Rennala's boss fight(s) - I personally think it shows exactly how far From Software has come as a company, when you look at the pure artisty that goes into some of the spectacles and the gorgeously realised cutscenes, and this was just one of many examples in Elden Ring!
    I have a question: any other games/franchises other than The Witcher & Elden Ring that you'd be interested in covering?
    Blessings,
    Gen

  • @juanpablolatorre7025
    @juanpablolatorre7025 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please don't misunderstand, your soothing voice makes me calm and sleepy, which is a dicotomy by itself because your lore videos are the best out there! cheers and congratulations on such a work of art!

  • @chaching100
    @chaching100 6 месяцев назад +10

    radagon belongs to the streets

  • @TheJoker-bz2uz
    @TheJoker-bz2uz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Your voice is so calming. You should do guided meditation videos, or do readings of audiobooks for real. Love your "Loreplay" videos 💚💜

  • @SirRagnark
    @SirRagnark Год назад +1

    The background is so bright >.> that goldmask is putting in work. But keep up the work Chalice. Lilith cosplay D4 huh huh huh :P

  • @dj_daem0n
    @dj_daem0n Год назад +21

    I think things become a lot more obvious once you go down the Goldmask side quest and reveal the truth about Radagon.
    At this point using the rule of Occam's Razor, this whole thing was a giant manipulation by Marika.
    First she creates the idea of Radagon out of whole cloth. She uses the guise of him to fight the war herself while allowing her people to be secure in her safety. She sees an opportunity to not only end the war, but to learn all of the Carian family secrets by having her made up champion marry Rennala. She secretly uses the egg's energy to give Rennala her children to create a permanent bond between her royal bloodline and Radagon. Then when she is finished getting what she wants, "Radagon" leaves her to "marry Marika" to end the illusion and consolidate her power base. Not needing the amber anymore, she leaves it with Rennala as a parting gift in order to pacify her with an obsession.
    It's devious to be sure, but it worked. And the entire charade continues to be held up by the ongoing illusion of Radagon's existence.

    • @Lord_Nikon33
      @Lord_Nikon33 Год назад +1

      I do like your idea of Marika becoming Radagon to possibly pacify the threat posed by Liurnia. However, the idea of the egg is the cause of the families creation i dont think it makes sense. The egg is definitely the amber of the erdtree, it contains a great rune. I also believe Radagon did love Rennala. I also believe that Radagon and Marika are two different identities that are both creations of the greater will and the elden beast. So even if Radagon didn't want to leave, he was forced to return to further the whims of the greater will. If he truly didn't love her and only had intentions of stealing power and deception, then creating a family would be pointless, and the time spent just seems unnecessary. Also, the children that came from all this ended up backfiring on Marika, leading to the shattering and war. I do like your idea it just seems like it brought so many issues, changes, and time loss that only served to harm Marika more.

    • @NateJones10
      @NateJones10 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Lord_Nikon33 The end of the game confirms that Marika and Radagon are the same being. You literally see her transform into him.

    • @leviadragon99
      @leviadragon99 11 месяцев назад +1

      Radagon and Marika share a body yes, but they do seem to be two distinct beings with different motivations and goals, otherwise one breaking and the other attempting to repair the Elden Ring would make no sense, to say nothing of other points of distinction. it is unclear whether the Greater Will smashed two separate people together, awoke a second, more compliant self within Marika once she began to express insubordination, or if the pair were born and existed as a dual-natured entity all along. I do not think we can conclusively say much of anything there as it's one of the biggest lingering mysteries.

    • @dj_daem0n
      @dj_daem0n 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@leviadragon99 I think it's more possible that Marika shattered the ring for one purpose, and then Radagon tried to restore it because of something horrible that followed. Considering how we find them in the form of Marika, practically crucified on the remnant of the ring, with what looks like a red lightning spear through her gut? I think narratively we aren't being given the entire picture (hopefully the DLC gives us the rest). It really looks like there is another party involved who tried to make sure Radagon couldn't undo what Marika did. And that party could be WHY Radagon tried in the first place.

    • @leviadragon99
      @leviadragon99 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@dj_daem0n The red spear strongly resembled the energy of the Rune of Death, the one bound to Marika's Loyal Hound, one loyal to her and not Radagon. It *especially* resembles the wound upon the air that formed when Maliketh perished and the rune was unbound.
      So, either Maliketh intervened to prevent Radagon from repairing the Elden Ring, giving Radagon a very pressing reason to put up the impenetrable thornwall, *Or* the spear was a recent development, caused by You when you unbound the rune of death from its host and caused a great deal of long-defied Inevitable Doom to be unleashed upon both the tree and the one responsible for restraining such an elemental force in the first place.
      the crucifixion is almost certainly due to the power of the Elden Beast, given that it uses a similar technique against you, the the other damage to radagon/marika's body is likely a consequence of one of these potential scuffles, or just the Elden Ring blowing up in their face when Marika shattered it.

  • @NextLineIsMine
    @NextLineIsMine 11 месяцев назад +1

    Jesus, the poem about the moon and the sun rocked me to my core. This is a beautiful channel.

  • @randommortal3383
    @randommortal3383 Год назад

    Azur and Thops: Lose their minds and/ or lives discovering primeval sorceries.
    Rennala: Makes a moon.

  • @CacklingAntagonist
    @CacklingAntagonist Год назад +6

    Something good after a tough week. A most welcome end to a Sunday :D

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Год назад +6

      So glad I could help! I promised to deliver this weekend so I stayed up to get this out in time for you all!

    • @CacklingAntagonist
      @CacklingAntagonist Год назад

      @@miss_chalice thanks Chalice! Hope you love making them as much as we love watching them

  • @Kageravager
    @Kageravager Год назад +2

    Off-topic but between the quality of the videos content creators like you put into videos, and also spreading awareness of lore in gaming, I'd love to see you guys get your own panels at anime and gaming conventions one day.

  • @danielgoncalves2784
    @danielgoncalves2784 Год назад +2

    do you have any plans of making a playthrough series? i would really enjoy someone with a lot of knowledge playing through the game, maybe making some comments about the lore of each new area and npc, it would be really fun!

  • @jaimais3527
    @jaimais3527 Год назад +3

    great video and congrats on the rapid growth ur channel is having!

  • @manosbouzoubouzou1386
    @manosbouzoubouzou1386 Год назад

    I’m proud to see your growth lady Chalice,I remember watching your videos when you had a few hundred subs. And I’m immensely proud of your progression and advancement as a narrator and VA. Keep up the great work!

  • @QuantumTelephone
    @QuantumTelephone Год назад +1

    Lore Mommy, all you need to do is title your vids "Elden Ring lore asmr" and you will absolutely pop off in the algo. People love that shit.

  • @geeteejae
    @geeteejae Год назад +4

    Wake up babe, a new video from lore mommy just dropped.

  • @zacretzer
    @zacretzer Год назад +2

    Patiently awaiting the day Chalice realizes her calling as a VA. Seriously that voice would fit into a FromSoft NPC perfectly!

  • @agustindesantis2516
    @agustindesantis2516 3 месяца назад

    Loved it! I enjoyed the Rennala battle as well. Visually beautiful. Loved the dress as well, very proper emulating the night and stars, right? I'll go watch Rellana's now, one of my favorite lore plays. Thank you Chalice

  • @sf4603
    @sf4603 Год назад +2

    Marika bestowed the Rune of Destined Death to Maliketh for safekeeping sealed within a sword. It makes me wonder if there is something similar going on with the amber egg.
    There are many parallel to draw from: Radagon a reflection of Marika, the Unborn a reflection of Destined Death, a sword being a phallic symbol of masculinity and an egg that of maternity.
    If these were similarly pivotal moments in the history of the lands between it certainly isnt presented that way in the records left behind. It may be that the circumstances were not at all similar and one just echoes the other in symbolism or it could be another case where parts of Radagon's past was purposefully obfuscated from the world's inhabitants.

  • @isabelm5010
    @isabelm5010 Год назад +1

    What if, instead of the egg allowing Rennala to re-birth a child or Raddagon, Raddagon gave it to her so she could renew herself?
    Out of love, to start life again without the heartbreak of him leaving? Or, even a different angle, a gift that would allow her to survive any catastrophic changes that might occur due to him mending/failing to mend the great rune?
    It could be a gift of his love, something that allows the one so precious to him to remain forever?

  • @JeremyDeere
    @JeremyDeere Год назад +1

    First, your videos are informative and entertaining. I enjoy the atmosphere of them while learning lore at the same time.
    Secondly, you are just wow. No way to say it without sounding desperate or creepy so I'll just it at wow.

  • @yoloboloyolo888
    @yoloboloyolo888 Год назад +3

    I find it interesting that all artificial life (I.e. albanurics, rennalas rebirths, and I think dragonkin solders) don't have functioning legs, I'm not sure what this could represent, but I find it cool.

    • @DragoonPaladin
      @DragoonPaladin Год назад

      Yeah like even in Bloodborne early on in the sewer area, there's those long arm crawly guys whose legs are all messed up and no longer able to walk. Something mentioned about the curse starting through the legs during early stages of ailment. Kinda cool seeing these similar things.

    • @yoloboloyolo888
      @yoloboloyolo888 Год назад

      @DragoonPaladin fromsoft loves references and so do we

  • @user-bs9zv4yw1h
    @user-bs9zv4yw1h Год назад +2

    I’ve always wondered why Ranni hated the Two Fingers. Maybe what happened to her mother contributed to that.
    I’ve been binging your videos recently and enjoying them. I havent finished the game so I’m skipping some to avoid spoilers, but will definitely come back once I’m ready.
    Thanks for the good content!

  • @atrior7290
    @atrior7290 Год назад +1

    When clipping trough the model of the Amber Egg when it is on the ground and not part of Renala's model, you can see 3 juvenile scholars within it. The strands of hair are on those scholars so it is likely that they were left as a mistake when removing the scholars to create the 2nd model.

  • @matiasluukkanen7718
    @matiasluukkanen7718 Год назад +2

    I really think Marika led personally armies of the Golden Order against Liurnia and Caria under guise of Radagon. Godwyn was still around at this time, but there is no mention of Godwyn in Liurnian wars, even though he would have made much more logical commander of Marika´s armies than the relative nobody like Radagon. This is why I think Godwyn was left as a regent in Leyndell, while Marika took on her male persona and then led armies personally and in secret. Sorcerers are very powerful, and Marika had to be there in person (even if disguised) to give her troops the fighting edge.
    There is never indication that Marika and Radagon are separate people as everything in the game suggests they are single entity that regularly changes between each other. And Radagon was able to give Rennala piece of Elden Ring (Rune of the Unborn, rune belonging to unborn daughter of Rennala). This is feat that only vessel of the Elden Ring, Marika, could do, because Runes are part of the world-order. If they are removed from the Elden Ring, then so are also the concepts which they represent.
    I believe Ranni is not Rennala´s biological daughter, but literal cuckoo´s chick in the family nest. Cuckoo symbolism is rife with Carian family. And we know what happens to original nestlings that Cuckoo birds choose to invade. They are killed, though I don´t think Ranni did the killing in this situation. On the contrary, I think that Ranni and Rennala loved each other as subversion the cuckoo trope.
    But I think Rennala´s biological daughter was killed (by Radagon or by his orders) and trapped in a limbo of unborn state, unable to be reborn. And Ranni, self-conceived children of Radagon/Marika replaced her. Ranni is Empyrean, and only reason she can be Empyrean, is that she is child of a single god like Malenia and Miquella. I believe Ranni was also Marika´s experiment, prototype, if she could actually conceive children with herself/himself alone. When it was success, she then resolved to carry out her plan (marry herself/himself).
    In the end, Radagon/Marika revealed the horrible truth to Rennala when they gave her the amber egg, and Rennala is desperately trying to incarnate her unborn daughter suspended within.
    Amber is crystallized life-force, and golden amber egg is literally crystallized life-force of the unborn demigod daughter.
    But Rennala does not have Marika´s power and authority as a birthing goddess, and her attempts fail instead.
    Marika/Radagon knew that Rennala would be debilitated by the reveal, weakening Caria and Liurnia, and I feel that the grief over being betrayed by her "husband" and deathless limbo of her child is more compelling reason to drive her into depression than simply being heartbroken over Radagon.
    I think Marika might be just sadistic/cruel enough to reveal to Rennala who she is and what she did, and that she did not take kindly being defeated by Caria and Rennala in First Liurnian War.
    Also, about the wolf...
    They seem to be Ranni´s servants that have dealt surgical strike against rebelling Academy. There is even Bloodhound Knight clinging to Academy gates that has been killing fleeing sorcerers, one of which desperately clings to celestial dew, as if begging from forgiveness and trying to acquire absolution.
    Moongrum and Carian task-force has nearly fully taken control of the Academy when we enter it, which is why Sellen wants to return there in the first place. Sellen was the governess that was ousted by Ranni´s servants, and her portrait is hanging in Debate Parlour.
    My guess is that Red-Wolf attacked the debating sorcerers and killed them.

  • @professorJorge11
    @professorJorge11 Год назад +1

    Happy Birthday. !🎉. Wow, this channel has grown a lot un one year. !

  • @Xexelli
    @Xexelli Год назад +2

    I can’t play these but love the lore so much. Thank you for making it accessible.

  • @soldierinsane2689
    @soldierinsane2689 Год назад +2

    I always thought the symbol on the apron worn by the grandmasters symbolized the primeval current. It’s a hash pattern of weaving lines and Renalla does cast comet Azur. I think this is worth considering because I think it was Renalla who banned the primeval current. But that’s not as fascinating as her tragic story tho . My theory is radagon convinced her to ban it before he left or when they married

  • @ABrickinTime
    @ABrickinTime Год назад +6

    Wonderful video thank you for sharing. The history behind Rennala bewitches me like she did Raya Lucaria. Would love to see more videos on this region. :)

  • @danielhall6354
    @danielhall6354 Год назад

    Having a replica of the Queen's Crescent Crown irl would be amazing - i think it's so tall that you wouldn't be able to ware it much indoors though

  • @bizjak3246
    @bizjak3246 Год назад

    I use your lore to fall asleep. Nice and soothing voice of yours reminds me the time I was little and I was read bed stories. Thank you for doing this!

  • @HeavensOfMetal
    @HeavensOfMetal Год назад +1

    25:40 Haven’t read this Romeo & Juliet fanfic before, haha.

  • @legendamian
    @legendamian Год назад

    I can't get over your voice, best way to get Elden Ring lore dumps.

  • @forcedtochill
    @forcedtochill Год назад +1

    congratulations on going full time with your content.

  • @lucasa.v.4772
    @lucasa.v.4772 Год назад

    I always look foward to more of your videos, good stuff! I'm currently travelling through Raya Lucaria, this video just dropped at the most perfect moment 👌🏻

  • @YoJimBoHugabaJoe
    @YoJimBoHugabaJoe Год назад

    I think radagon just finally realised how tiny and out of proportion rennala head is

  • @aranthur
    @aranthur Год назад +1

    Another lovely video! Though it does have me wondering now...
    Could the egg have been involved already in the birth of Radagon and Rennala's children?? The two of them did create three demigod children, despite Radagon only being a champion at the time, not yet a god. Maybe the egg was a gift from Marika or a creation of Radagon's that was included in the peace agreement of their marriage. The next generation of Carian Royals would be demigods
    Making "the unborn" a reference to Rykard, Ranni, and Radahn, not yet born at the time. And Rennala's obsession with the egg comes at least partially from repeated attempts to rebirth Ranni after her "death," which of course would fail because Ranni's spirit is still alive and well
    Rennala's final clear-minded words at the end of her fight, before her lunacy returns, is her daughter's name and a plea for her to return and achieve success, after all...

  • @fado1887
    @fado1887 Год назад +3

    Loving these vids, they're very relaxing

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Год назад +1

      Thank you!! And glad you like the style :)

  • @Hashel
    @Hashel Год назад

    A few jours later i discovered this video, enjoyed the hell out of it, and binge listened to all of your ER lore videos !
    Cannot wait for more, keep up the great work :)

  • @austinmendoza5179
    @austinmendoza5179 Год назад

    I’d love and appreciate the deep takes of Elden ring that you have And it is always interesting to see a even the smallest details connect and be a part of what is such a grand scale to the plot the lore is beyond fascinating and confusing

  • @ikearubegoldbergmachine6304
    @ikearubegoldbergmachine6304 Год назад +1

    Congrats on your success with the channel🎉

  • @timhortin2627
    @timhortin2627 4 месяца назад

    “We will never be together.”
    (Eclipse has entered the chat)

  • @robertcunningham1695
    @robertcunningham1695 Год назад

    Sometimes I'm not even listening to the actual videos, her voice is just so soothing I have these playing in the background and I catch bits and pieces of the actual lore here and there

  • @cptchuckles4195
    @cptchuckles4195 Год назад

    no shot its already been a year. congrats and looking forward to another ❤

  • @strigoi_guhlqueen8355
    @strigoi_guhlqueen8355 Год назад +1

    I really though I knew everything about her.
    But I didn’t. Thanks for the awsome video. Your research is always on point.

  • @ShadowRoyal4422
    @ShadowRoyal4422 Год назад

    Welcome to RUclips full time! Can't wait to see more from you!!! 😋❤️

  • @jeremybasualdo4483
    @jeremybasualdo4483 Год назад

    3:59 is out of this world ❤

  • @ilyana1126
    @ilyana1126 Год назад +1

    I think the similarity between the reborn Apprentices who can’t walk and the artificially created Albunarics needs to be explored.

  • @christinebaker8754
    @christinebaker8754 7 месяцев назад

    18:51 Rennala and the Egg -she is sitting on a cradle. And also, if Radagon left the Red Wolf to protect her, is the huge golden egg which shields her of the same origin? Protecting both her and ( maybe ) the Unborn?

  • @thecommentguy9380
    @thecommentguy9380 Год назад

    anakin skywalker on rennala phase 1: *This is where the fun begins*

  • @danieltenebrion9413
    @danieltenebrion9413 Год назад +1

    My own personal theory is that the reason behind Radagon leaving Rennala had more to do with Radagon becoming Marika. Which could be why him leaving her was left in mystery.

  • @Jimshady94
    @Jimshady94 Год назад +1

    We missed ya man!😢 Glad you’re back! Long live the Elden Queen!

  • @kingofgames1220
    @kingofgames1220 Год назад +1

    Where can I find that sun and moon poem? I wanna use that for my d&d campaign!

  • @GuyGunpla
    @GuyGunpla 5 месяцев назад

    now its time for the lore video between rennala and rellana

  • @Izanji_bolt
    @Izanji_bolt Год назад +1

    My head Canon time line:
    *Raya lucaria established
    *Renala joins and ages
    *Radagon is sent to destroy
    *Raya lucaria can hold it's own against the order
    *The order (or Radagon) try a new plan of integration
    *Radagon despite marrying for duty actually falls in love
    *The three kids are born and age
    *Ranni becomes aware of what's suppose to happen to her
    *Ranni forms plan to change everything (ultimately for selfish reasons but understandable)
    *the shattering happens
    *Godwyn now "dead" alerting the order
    *the order calls Radagon back who at this point, knows his daughter is also dead.
    *Renala is doubly upset because of loss of husband and child
    *Radagon, with remorse and sorrow gives Renala the amber egg so that she may bear another child in Ranni's stead.
    Also if I recall correctly, Ranni is the youngest.
    while rykard and Radhan are older than her.
    I think Ranni was the only one left at caria manor
    So we are looking at a messed up version of empty nest syndrome.
    Thank you for coming to my Ted talk 😅

  • @SoloWingPixxy
    @SoloWingPixxy Год назад

    You're videos always help me feel cozy and safe to sleep. Thank you.

  • @christinebaker8754
    @christinebaker8754 7 месяцев назад

    There is a statue of Radagon, as seen in the Church of Pilgrimage and elsewhere, in the Great Library of Raya Lucaria. You only see it after you defeat Rennala - prior to that you’re too busy dealing with the juveniles and walloping the Queen as she falls to the floor to admire the environment … and then get whisked off to the surreal moonscape …

  • @Djabsbs
    @Djabsbs Год назад +4

    Love lore videos only way for me to understand the lore of any game😂

  • @MyDogLuther
    @MyDogLuther Месяц назад

    There probably is a correlation between the rune being in amber and glintstone being also referenced as the "amber of the cosmos" so rather than obsession the study of cosmos amber, she wants to look into the amber egg

  • @jeremycu4571
    @jeremycu4571 Год назад

    top tier stuff. I really enjoy the lore interpretations, the robe pattern linking the statue to Renala was very good. I buy that.
    For Radagons reason to attack, I feel its because the moon, the stars, whatever the sorcerers get their power from, is an outer god. The reason is blasphemy, basically worshipping/empowering an outergod different from the greaterwill/ erd tree. Just like Rykard, who worshipped that snake and was called Blasphemous over it.
    I feel that what ended the war was the greater will's admiration of the strength of the carians. I dont think its a coincidence that, Ranni, a demi god born from this union, is one of the top candidates to succeed Marika.
    I do think the love of Renalla and Radagon was genuine. Radagon is a slave to the greater will. His soreseal describes it as a gnawing curse with no deliverance. I believe the egg is a good gesture of radagons true feelings, a part of the elden ring. I wonder how that even works though, it must truly be a part of the ring because it counts as one of the shattered pieces so you can get in. Marika/Radagon is the elden ring. Perhaps it is Radagon giving a part of himself to her? Could explain the red hair inside it? I wonder if it was a way to reduce her grief? Like, what if she rebirthed herself to take her memories and broken heart away? Like the "memory fades into oblivion" bit from juvenile scholar cap? Which explains why she cant stand properly, she floats and kneels when you break the bubble, and her mind is in a strange rebirth fixated place. Her phase 2 isnt really her anymore. Its Ranni's magic making her move.
    I like the clone theory.Marika could be an artificial humanoid, the only thing you can get from her origin is somthing about numen stock. And the numen arent made of stone, they are flesh and blood humanoids. Marika was possibly created by the greater will using Numen dna as a base, to create a relatable deity that the people can follow.
    I really feel that the DLC will shed more light on these events, theres some spells that hint that miquella was close to Radagon, like the ring of light thing. Who knows?

  • @erin1569
    @erin1569 7 месяцев назад +1

    What if the Moon is an outer god, and by doing Ranni's quest, we did the same thing as when we didn't kindle in DS1?

  • @yourlocalreptillian1742
    @yourlocalreptillian1742 6 месяцев назад

    I had no idea "haha moon spells" went this deep

  • @deeayenn
    @deeayenn Год назад

    All new to me, but I'm happy to learn. Exceptionally soothing though :) Congratulations on a successful first year.

  • @SPARTANpk99TgC
    @SPARTANpk99TgC Год назад

    I can't get enough of your content! Going to have a blast with this one too.

  • @rivertine1671
    @rivertine1671 Год назад

    happy channel birthday miss chalice keep it up

  • @Throne6810
    @Throne6810 Год назад

    Imagine the scene of when the academy rebelled. Rani and Rykard probably fought off all of them

  • @colinnixon7739
    @colinnixon7739 Год назад +1

    Moon groom aint summoning the balls. Its a punpkin head and a glint guy

  • @Redrung
    @Redrung Год назад

    nice lore with theory , I also try to learn more about song of ice and fire lore as Martin love to mirror the event in his book. it may applied to Elden ring too, more or less.

  • @Turin_Inquisitor
    @Turin_Inquisitor Год назад

    Happy one year sweet Chalice!