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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2022
- My long term review of the Macbook Pro 14 and 16 after using them everyday for 6 months! Am I switching to Mac?
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I have watched countless videos on this subject and this is, by far, the best one I've come across! You just saved me time and frustration with your thorough review - I had the 14" with M1 Max and 24-core GPU in my shopping cart and now I've decided to upgrade to the 16" version. THANK YOU!!
Fully agreed - either get the 14" with M1 Pro, or the 16" with M1 Pro/Max (24c). Everything else is just a pain for your thermals and battery. I will go for the combo 16" with Pro, since I don't need more than 5.2TFLOPs of GPU performance and I get amazing battery life and no fan noise in return!
eh 14 " max 24c has been getting me 10+ hours of webstorm/pycharm use, tho i guess you could say for that work load im not getting any value from the extra gpu anyway so
@@AndreHance Yeah, I'm starting to doubt Josh didn't have a lemon unit. Not to say he's a bad reviewer, but yeah, there really isn't a 14 inch or smaller laptop with this much power that doesn't get warm under load. The Asus ROG Flow x13 does, the Asus Zephyrus G14 does, the Blade 14 does, and knowing Dell/Alienware, the Alienware x14 probably does as well; even if the Alienware doesn't, the performance (especially in the GPU department) isn't the same level as the other Windows laptops.
@random viewer I’m not an Apple Sheep. I don’t even like all of Apple’s products (like the Studio Display, 3rd gen iPhone SE, newest iPad Air, etc.) and I actually prefer Linux to macOS.
@random viewer not really, windows laptop with same performance is almost the same or even more pricier than these macbook pros.
@random viewer Says apple sheep then mentions alienware lmao. To be honest, people can buy what they want, something those opposed to apple can't quite seem to grasp. The base 14 (or the m1Air) is ample for the VAST majority of people for daily use and, here's the kicker... NOT EVERYONE IS A GAMER. It's quick, long battery life, decent webcam/mics for video calling, the screens are gorgeous for watching/consuming (as are the xps screens) and it's still around that $2000 mark which is slowly becoming the standard price for premium "things". Want to game, get a gaming laptop... nobody is stopping you from doing so. The average person spending $5000 on a laptop is pointless, nobody is denying that. And who really games THAT much when out and about? Want to game, build a PC.
(Looks at alienware x17 fully specced and laughs at the near $5000 pricetag as if they're not expensive either)
With the transition to Apple Silicon, Apple is killing it in the laptop space. The M1 MBA released back in Nov 2020 is still far better than any other windows thin and light laptop. With these machines, they have given power users everything they need. For a work laptop, unless someone has an application that will not run on Apple Silicon, it is hard to recommend anything else right now. I really hope the PC market steps up their game this year.
True!!!
Loved the review, Josh! Surprised to see my cameo haha. Thanks!
Ha ha yes indeed
Already have a 14 inch M1 Pro so am mostly here to see what Josh thinks. Glad that the Pro has some heat advantages over the MAX, I went back and forth on what to get for 2 weeks and it was ultimately budgetary reasons as to why I went for the Pro but it sounds like there are practical advantages too which is nice
how the fan system for 14inch pro?
Your laptop is shit and needs upgrading lol
Outstanding content as usual. Your experience just reinforces that there is no best machine for everything and that it really depends on your use case. As for expecting PC companies to step up, I'll believe it when I see it. The things that PC manufacturers can easily control such as better webcams and speakers they don't bother with upgrading. They can't do much with the hot processors from Intel/AMD. It will be a couple of generations, at best, before they can compete with Apple by providing a chip that's high performing, low power and generates low heat.
Intel's Arrow Lake 15th gen mobile chips that will launch in 2024 are rumored to have a massive iGPU on them just like Apple's M1 Pro & M1 Max. But Apple is definitely leading the pack right now.
The Amd chips actually ran cool. Intel just bribes OEMS enough to not put them in their widelyq available laptopss.
@@fahadfreid1996 It's relative, right? Compared to Intel, absolutely. Compared to Apple? They have work to do.
@@darrell9616 Intel is a terribly low bar for thermals.
@@User-cb4jm No doubt, but let's not act as though AMD is all that great when compared to Apple. As you said, Intel is a very low bar.
6:38 - "it would be nice to have that slimmer lighter form factor" - personally to me - no, it wouldn't, this 5-year race for thinnest possible laptops caused so many troubles with performance... To my experience, sometimes it went to the point when I literally could not even share the screen during my meetings due to CPU throttle to 0.8 GHz, and that was on MBP 16 i9 (2019)... Insane! Thank god Apple ditched this "thin form factor" bullshit.
Now I am a happy owner of a base MBP 16 M1 Pro model with 1TB storage, having zero complaints since the moment I purchased it 3 months ago.
The main problem people complain about is weight. I'm sorry, but if a 16" laptop is too heavy then there are more pressing matters at hand lol. Thin and light doesn't mean good, it usually means there are things missing that should be there.
@@dodo19923 totally agree!
I still cant decide btween 14 and 16 :(
Such a great, factually based, clear-eyed view - well done. I’ve been PC based since the Ark but have swapped over to Apple Silicon, first with an M1 Air which convinced me to buy the MBP Pro 16” on the very first day. Been delighted with it - it’s everything the XPS 15 & 17 should be by now but aren’t.
But these chips don’t allow running windows or Ubuntu in Multiboot or even as a virtual machine. Macs are more helpful to those who are tied into apple platform.
@@redflava7871 I am running Windows 11 preview in Parallels as VM on M1 Pro and it works great. Also have run Ubuntu with Parallels and that works great also.
You really deserve more views and subs! Your reviews are interesting, informative, in-depth and enjoyable; just wanna say we love you and keep up the amazing work :)
Thank you very much Daniel
Honestly the 14” is the best laptop I’ve ever used. It has everything i need for basic use and my creative endeavors!!
16GB or 32GB? I am on the fence.
So first you get the 14 inch with M1 Max 24 core GPU, 32GB RAM & 2TB storage, returned that and got the 14 inch with M1 Pro 14 core GPU, 32GB RAM & 2TB storage, kept this and bought the 16 inch with M1 Max 24 core GPU, 32GB RAM & 2TB storage correct?
My mom is proud of you too! 😆☕😎 ...but seriously, after using Windows PC laptops for 30+ years, I switched to Mac, and I'm not looking back. I have the MacBook Pro 16, and it is easily the best laptop I have ever owned! I was initially worried about switching operating systems, but I was pleasantly surprised that I adapted much more quickly than I anticipated. In less than a week I was comfortable, and within a couple of weeks, it was like I had always been using Mac OS.
I did buy a Dell XPS 17 at the same time, and used them both side-by-side for a couple of weeks, to test them out. I love the XPS 17 screen and design! ....but there's just no comparison. The MacBook out-preformed in every way. The battery life 🔋alone was the biggest selling point. The MacBook lasted up to 3x as long. And runs at "full power" on battery. It renders/exports my video editing projects in half the time. The XPS keyboard is good, but I swear I type twice as fast on the MacBook - LOL 😉
....The speakers are just amazing, as well as the track pad, studio-quality mics, and HD web cam. Now, I know this is crazy, but I use the LAP-top actually ON my lap most of the time! ....No heat, no fan noise (The XPS sounded like a jet airplane when exporting video.) ....As far as the "notch", I installed a gorgeous purple-dark high-res galaxy background, and I never notice it.
Not to mention the all-around quality! ....and something no one seems to mention is the new M1 MacBooks are actually "designed" to be "LAP-tops" .....There's no grill on the bottom folks! (Which I was always worried about blocking, as I use my laptops on my lap, and often just sitting on my bed!) ...Instead there are air intake slots on the outer edges, and at the screen (just genius). (I returned the XPS 17 to Dell - I really DID want to love it!)
Now I can sit on my patio, laptop on my lap, with a cup of coffee ☕ and work ALL day (unplugged)... 💜 😎 🎉
Gaming is one thing, but for creatives / business users like me, until Windows PC laptops address the heat and fan-noise issues, battery life, design and quality, it's hard to recommend anything but a MacBook.....
But what about the "Apple Tax"? ....Hate to burst your bubble, but the Dell XPS configured to try to compete was over $500 MORE than the MacBook! .....A Razer Blade would have been even more than that!
Thanks for the great video, as always Josh! 👍🏼😎
I mostly need windows or Ubuntu for my work. I do agree that the Mac hardware is the best but Mac isn’t my software if choice. What would you advise me? I am planning for a customised dell latitude with 4K screen.
09:22 - "Smash that like button because.......It makes my mother very proud" 😂 You made me spit out the beverage I was drinking! 😂 You seriously should try stand up comedy!
Great review as usual Josh. I don't think we'll see much that comes close on windows this year (in terms of power to performance ratio). I think for those who game a bit and do some serious work, the Ryzen 6000 models with integrated RDNA 2 graphics in thin and light chassis may be better all-rounders (and cheaper) for many people.
Josh, as you have experience with development and seem rather tech savvy in general, would you consider making a Windows vs MacOS comparison any time soon? I'm a dev who is seriously tempted to get my hands on a new Macbook Pro but have no idea what the apple ecosystem experience is like, and I would definitely want to see a comparison from someone who has experience beyond just casual use and video editing.
As someone who is a software engineer working with web & Android development, I can confidently say development on Mac or Linux is superior to Windows. Tools like Homebrew make installing & uninstalling new software so much more convenient plus Docker runs a lot smoother & faster on Mac or Linux. IntelliJ, VS Code, Android Studio, and pretty much every major IDE out there work natively on M1 Macs and thanks to the new SSD & faster processor, compile times are a whole lot shorter on my Mac compared to any Windows laptop.
One hiccup I did run into is that Elasticsearch (Version 6) (a dependency of one of the projects I work on) does not run, at all, on my mac. Even through Rosetta it just doesn't work. This was fixed in a recent version of Elasticsearch but unfortunately the version my work uses is a bit old and I'm forced to use a remote server just for that single service.
It would be too hard to cover every use case - try it for yourself - you get a 2 week trial period with it if buying from Apple direct and can return it in that time.
@@essamal-mansouri2689 I'm only a CS students so I don't work on very advanced projects. But I can tell you my experience:
I have used MacOS for all my life, but also I have used Windows+WSL the past few years (videogames on PC+didn't want to partition/dualboot). I now use Linux on my PC as i don't game anymore and i have a MBPro 13" m1, and the experience is so much better on both than on Windows for dev stuff. I haven't had many probleams with the M1 architecture being an issue for applications, only issues maybe in some apps not optimized like Matlab (last I used) that just perform worse, but you can still use them.
Being able to have tools like brew / apt is amazing (you can use chocolatey on windows but it's more of a hustle imo). Also the unix os structure/cmd being similar between both is nice, i don't need to learn stupid windows cmd/ps anymore.
MacOS is a nice middleground between the flexibility that Linux offers without the hustle and complications that some distros have. It's more streamlined in the sense that everyone that uses MacOS has the same base so there's no divide between users configs and you can find a lot of help and tutorials that you know will work.
A very important thing related to this is that you will probably find most if not all applications that you woukd probably want to use on MacOS as compared to Linux for example where sometimes you have to compromise.
Also, and this is my opinion, MacOS is the most beautiful OS, the tittlebars being small, the colors, the design lenguage... It's very cohesive and it works very well. I don't like how a lot of things work (no window snapping i.e) but with some tweaks + applications you can get comfortable.
One very important distinction is when you use MacOS on a MB as a laptop vs desktop. When in laptop a lof of shortcuts are not used since most stuff can be done via gestures, which feel amazing and very natural. But this is a double edge sword as when you use it as a desktop you probably use a mouse, so this gestures are not available anymore and you have to use the keyboard shortcuts which are not very good, you can change them ofc but what i mean is that it feels very different when you're used to gestures.
Now in regards to the ecosystem, I don't use an iPhone as I don't like iOS, but I do have a 2018 iPad Pro 13", which bring it to Uni as well as my MBPro13 to take handwritten notes. The most amazing thing you can do is use SideCar, which makes your Ipad a secondary screen over AirPlay, and let me tell you it is amazing, you can now all of a sudden without any cables and hustles have a dual screen portable setup. Don't overlook this, it's game changer in the sense that I almost don't miss my home setup with big dual displays as with this ipad+mbpro setup i can get a lot stuff done.
So yeah totally would recommend MacOS and most of all a MBPro as a laptop (it's miles ahead of the competition), but don't get to tied into the Apple Ecosystem, mostly in terms of apps.
Im an avid windows user. I'm a dev. I decided to get the 14 mac pro today, sheesh expensive, but I purchased it specifically for coding, I set up my environment twice as fast on the mac. For all around development..... i'm still undecided-- but if your a Ruby guy, yes the mac is NICE. I used a desktop mainly, but decided now that I'm making money from my hobby and can work from home, SO why not do it in bed! lol ----but the main problem i had was not enough screen real estate for, vs code, google, and etc.-- was annoying-- but the macbook if you use four fingers it makes it sooo easy to keep you windows placed where you want, push them to edge of screen to do something else, and pull your fingers back together to pick up where you left off! Note habits die hard, and the Mac eco system is different. Will take time to adjust, but I seem to be doing okay, and it's my first day really using a mac.
Oh wow first time commenting videos like these but may I just say I’m impressed how informative and efficient your video is!! Great content and great work truly. Brilliant!
another great video as always Josh, I'm curently using the base model 14 inch and I'm impressed with the performance so far
I was thinking about upgrading to the higher end configuration but not anymore after your experience of 5 hours of battery life on the m1 max chip
Hi !
How's the battery doing on your MBP 14" base model since you posted your comment ? I'm wondering for light work load (youtube, notion, goole word...).
Thanks !
@@element_sou2524 hi there, I'm a developer and sometimes I do quite a lot of work and it lasted me for around 4 5 hours, if you're doing lighter work like web browsing, notion noting, microsoft office type stuff then you'll get 6 8 hours easily, full 120Hz with brightness all the way
However if you want the best battery life then go for the 13 inch pros, m1 or m2 are fine, I use a 13 inch before and that machine lasted for days, but I switched to a 14 inch base since the 13 inch can't handle my workload that has quite a lot of phone emulators around, also light gaming is better on the 14 too
@@vintagewander hey,
that's a really clear answer, thanks you very much for taking that time !
@@vintagewander Super thanks for your answer !!
Excellent review the only thing i missed is whether you think the relatively insaenly high prices justify these machines
Good point. I do think it's justified. Ill talk about that in my next review
imo, you start to think they are justified when you compare it with other laptops.
plus i think its justified for the professionals not for college students.
"insanely high"? You crazy? Check what proper Razer, Lenovo or Dell XPS devices cost: Also way over $2000 and they have inferior thermals, battery, trackpads, speakers, display, keyboard combined with crappy Win11, malware, bloatware, update-hell, registry, DLLs, etc...
Dead-On Solaris! ....Maybe this was true a few years ago, but the Dell XPS I tested alongside my MacBook Pro 16 cost $500 MORE! ....A Razer Blade would have been over $3000 (or more) as configured ....and still not come close to the battery life, let alone - as you mentioned - best in class trackpad, speakers, keyboard, display, thermals, design, build, and on, and on, and on..........
Tech RUclipsrs tend to review MacBook line with focus on Video editing, it feels like MBKHD telling Linus Tech Tips to get a new MBP. For a lot of people out there, they don’t do video editing, like myself, I am a developer, having twice processing power doesn’t make me write twice as much of code. However I’d love to have that screen, but Apple doesn’t give you that option for having M1 normal in a 16 inch body. (For a cheaper price)
Yes agreed. I do try to take a software development lens in my videos btw
Josh never disappoints! Just keep the videos coming! Love them
I'm with the 16" and this computer is the best. That's it. In the price category there is no competition. The only downside is that it can't run Windows natively and if you need Windows, for now, you need a PC.
I have found the software parallels to be rather good for running windows concurrently with macOS
I think dell should add 14” option to their xps line. I really dont feel comfortable on 13” devices. 15 “ devices can be too bulky. 14” is golden ratio, i believe.
Definitely. If there was an XPS 14 I would buy it without hesitation. Dell should drop the XPS 15.
There is one. It's called XPS+
The macbook pro 16 is the best laptop i ever had. I love mac OS, and i love the build quality. Only problem is that the new mac version of microsoft outlook does not support exchange servers which is what my office uses so i have to use the web app. Other than that its awesome
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I just bought a 16. I will open it up and set it up and some point in the week. The larger display my eyes will appreciate.
Okay so I bought 14" MBP M1 pro base model just this month and I LOVE it!. Upgraded from my 6 year old MBP core i5 2015 model. That one had one fan and this one has 2 and I can't get them to even turn on. This thing runs so cool and so fast with battery lasting me 15 hours easily. Best laptop I've ever had in my entire life. Keyboard is quieter than my old mac.
Hi !
How's the battery doing since you posted your comment ? I'm wondering about the light work load (youtube, notion, goole word...) is it still around 15 hours ?
Thanks !
Finally a reviewer who weighs laptops with and without charger!
I'm someone who does a lot of writing for a WordPress blog and also needs a good built in Mic/Webcam for interviewing people over the internet and this is just a dream machine. Very few laptops even have a 1080p webcam and Apple's software does a great job making things look better with the camera.
I feel I must have watched all existing videos on youtube about laptops, pc vs mac etc....and you definitely sit at the very top of the bestest!!! thank you so much
Awh thanks mate
your reviews are the best. quick and in-depth.
I struggled with this: 14 or 16 inch? I went with the 16 inch and LOVE it. ( M1 Max 32 core 64 ram 2 terabyte storage) Ouch!... retailed at $4300 BUT, found a refurbished at the Apple refurbished site which knocked off 10% plus another 3% discount cash back on my Apple credit card helped relieve some of that financial pain! The tough decision I had was the size, however even though I travel a bit, the 16 inch is heavier, but other other factors completely override that. I have also noticed more and more bigger size machines in public areas: perhaps our tech culture is going through a "seismic paradigm shift for the bigger screen is better perspective. Side note: Just Josh, your speaking style is excellent: no filler of BS fluff, just the facts and delivered fast: that is so refreshing!
What a dedicated content, You literally gave me all the answers about 14" Macbook
I'm living in Australia. I wish I could have met you when you're travelling in Australia!
Josh would you recommend the 16" or 14" for scientific programming and development? I commute between Uni and home pretty much every day.
Same question!
I would think the M1 Pro 14 is better here - I assume your tasks gain from CPU rather than GPU - the 10C M1 Pro and M1 Max models perform the same CPU wise, it's only the GPU you gain with the M1 Max. Not to mention battery life and portability.
@@User-cb4jm yep, exactly what i was going to say. The gpu on the m1 pro is good enough for a lot of tasks (rendering some math stuff idk i don't work in this field ahhaha), and you mostly care about CPU performance, so get the 10 core apple m1pro on the 14" which should have good enough battery and is more portable and that's as good as it gets
Such a good channel Josh. Thank you as always for your detailed reviews. You always answer the questions I have in my mind
How's the battery life of MacBook Pro 14 base model? I ordered one and the battery drain was pretty bad.
Excellent. All the useful info I needed without a lot of extraneous BS.
Hey Josh, I have been watching you channel for a while and I think you are the right person to ask this:
I will be doing a masters in translation technology which involves NLP classes and I plan to focus on NLP for the rest of my career. I am a person who values the design of the macbook a lot and I've been using the mac os for over a decade now. Is the M1 processor would be right companion for me to take on the challenges that lay before me?
Nice video Josh.
Have a request to make, could you review ASUS Vivobook Pro 16X OLED laptop if possible.
With all this content, how come you have few subscribers?
You deserve more👌
Hey Josh, an idea for a quick video - the different configurations for Macbook Pro for the different types of users - ie 16GB + 512 TB for casual users, 32GB + 1TB for Developers, etc.......they are not cheap and not upgradable thereafter, so hope you can get your thoughts on the different configurations for each use case. You always want to save money, but you always don't want to kick yourself for cheaping out when your needs exceed what you have. Thanks!
Would love to get an answer to this as well, as I cant decide between 16 or 32 GB of Ram. I mainly use the laptop for day-trading on 2 external monitors, as well as simultaneously surfing on Chrome with multiple tabs. Would love to get a nudge in either direction 16 or 32. Thx.
I'll wait patiently for your 2022 Asus zephyrus g14 review (if you happen to come across one)
Hi Josh. I am a pro designer. Mainly use PS, Ai, XD, C4D (for pro advertising, web, graphics, etc.... I would like to get the 14inch because the form factor but how do you see the 14 inch maxed our (M1 max-totally maxed out) especially because I use very intensive work on PS and C4D...or you think I should get the 16maxed out? thanks for your opinion (no video editing)
You sir just earned a subscriber..keep up the great work
I was gonna buy macbook air, but after watching your review I find macbook pro 14 is the exactly right one for me. Thank you.
I’ve been waiting for your update. Finally.
3:06 there's any difference (in a bad way) between the M1 Pro chips?
M1 Pro with 8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
M1 Pro with 10-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
M1 Pro with 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
You choose the base, so fan noise are gone and battery life improve, is the same for the other two?
why I ask? I'll skip the MAX, but maybe I want the second: Apple M1 Pro with 10-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
I use a work laptop that is 14” and I a, not getting any younger and find it way too small for to do anything meaningful, just ordered 16” M1 Max 32gb 1TB and of course now save £250 over the standard 16” pro! wish I could get the 2tb but can’t find one. 😞 first time with max so hope I don’t regret it coming from a pc gaming rig, I am hoping I can settle for console gaming. I am not a pro, will just be used for hobby videos and photography, for now anyhow, who knows.
Oh wow, I've never noticed the spacebar issue before until you mentioned it... HAHA well, it hasn't bothered me too much so far, since I tend to hover over the keys anyway
Me neither, I don't find anything wrong on mine.
Well you got a new subscriber. Love how you review the laptop. I just got 14in macbook pro. Love how well it handle my mixing and recording.
I disagree about the keyboard tbh. I tried the 14 in at a store and if felt awful? Much worse than even my P1 Gen 4, which is supposedly a downgrade compared to the previous gens.
Can you compare 14 inch m1 vs zyphrus g14
M1 Pro 14: better - display, speakers, webcam, touchpad, mic, battery life, performance on battery, better for media work
2022 G14: better - keyboard, gaming performance, versatile GPU
I want to know the battery health how it’s going on this device mine dropped to 93% only after 8 months which I find very weird
Hello again. The same person who asked for a 3d modeling benchmarks list in your videos like Auto CAD, solid works, Auto desk 3d max and MATLAB or anything else that u think can help. The reason I'm asking it is that I think there r a lot of engineering students like me who cannot afford workstation laptops so then they'll lean towards gaming laptops. Either way much obliged to u for the effort and reading the comments. Definitely appreciated.
Tnx again
As someone who's had a 14 inch m1 max 32c for the last few months, I haven't experienced any of the thermal issues you describe. The battery life seems very similar to me as the base m1 pro model. With extended heavy cpu/gpu use the laptop would heat up a little, but I haven't seen any throttling at all. And when I say "heat up", its nothing compared to the 3rd degree burns you get from the old intel macbooks
Hi mate,
How's the battery doing since you posted your comment ? I'm wondering about the light work load (youtube, notion, goole word...)
Thanks !
Of course you'd say that. Your macbook is shit mate. Get a better one
I love your reviews, you are doing the best job out there, thank you.
Better with the larger trackpad on the 2021 16-inch MacBook Pro.
Hey Josh, I plan on ordering a 14 inch M1 pro this week. I wanted to get the max power, cores, ram, best chip, etc. but I prioritize battery life above almost all else. I won’t be doing video editing, just everyday tasks, school, typing, and maybe some gaming if it can handle it. Should I get the very base chip? Will any upgrades reduce the battery life significantly or can I upgrade the chip but not all the way to the most powerful? Would love your advice/thoughts (or anyone else with more knowledge on computers).
Thanks so much!
I have the M1 Max chip and if I'm just doing basic tasks it'll last me a solid two days. If you're not going to be doing any video editing or anything like that. maybe just a step up from the very base version, but I think you'll be okay with the base version as well!
@@NenadSapungin a 14” M1 Max?
@@quasi-eazy yup! I would say 12-14 hours on my 14" with the M1 Max. M1 Pro probably even better than that
Excellent video Josh. What are the specs of the 16 inch MacBook Pro that you use?
M1 Max 32 core gpu, 32g ram, 2tb ssd
Thank you, Josh. I appreciate your answer. 🙂
Love this review thank you!! I will be getting the 16 for screen real estate :)
Great review !
Has this been addressed by the base M3 max chip on the 14” I wonder…
How much is the M1 Pro lacking compared to the M1 Max? My understanding is that it lacks a media engine and so encode and decode of ProRes etc. is much worse?
Would you mind reviewing hp envy 15 ? Love your work by the way !
I don't care about macs, but here I am watching a video about them. Watching laptop reviews is fun. :)
Glad you are enjoying it
As a software developer who wants to use some virtualization tools, I cannot decide to which laptop I should buy. 16" MBP with 16 GB ram (I cannot afford with 32 GB ram) or Dell Inspiron 16 Plus with 32 GB ram (seems provides great value for price) or HP Omen 16 (as a developer I'm dying to work with its keyboard!).
I wonder you could give me some advice as you worked with most of them.
I've also watched "How To Pick The Best Laptop For Programming in 2022!" video of you and Jarrod 😊 But the above 3 laptops remained in my shortlist.
Keep up your good works!
Macbook Pro 16 is what id get from that list
@@JustJoshTech thank you so much!
The Inspiron is cheap for a reason, it's built worse, has a worse trackpad, worse display, worse speakers, worse battery life. The MBP 16 is a Dell XPS competitor and what you should be comparing it to and even then this will have better thermals and battery life.
What are the issues for Mac OS when plug to the display monitor?
Nothing, he has said in a previous video he personally doesn't like the way macOS works with mouse acceleration or the dock behaviour. I don't have any issue with it - tbh Apple Silicon devices are the only laptops I used that don't get hot with a 4K monitor attached - Intel Windows AND Intel Mac laptops don't handle the graphic load as efficiently.
Trying to decide whether to buy the Mac Studio with the max or the ultra. I'd be pushing over $10k AUD for the full ultra setup and the new display. But I want something that will last. In saying that, my iMac with 10 core CPU is totally fine in reality, but does bog down a little with photography working with 46MP images. I really just want that M1 snappiness though. Something about all M1 devices makes them feel so responsive and snappy compared to any Intel Mac I have used. My son's M1 low-end Air is snappier than my top-end iMac. Great video mate, very polished. Looks like you've really nailed the lighting, tone, and delivery. Well done :)
Thanks mate, its a labor of love but I really am enjoying learning about cinematography and what it takes to produce cool looking videos. And honestly I think you'll be fine with the M1 Max. My MB 16 with it crushed any other computer i've ever owned
@@JustJoshTech Lovely mate. Yes I think I'm leaning that way too. The money saved by NOT buying the Ultra could be used towards a little more RAM and SSD.
Great video! Could you tell us how many extra hours you get after switching from M1 Max to M1 Pro in the MBP 14"? I just did return my MBP 14" with M1 Max too because battery was terrible. Now I'm deciding between getting another one but base model or the new Macbook Air M2.
Love your videos!!!
I have the option of getting a 14" , 1TB, 10CPU, 16GPU, 32 unified, 16 neural engine (10/16/32/16) new in box and sealed, or a base 16", 512GB, 10/16/16/16 from the actual Apple store for roughly the same price.
I am a bit confused about the throttle, thermos, and battery life implications. I want good battery, and I do love a smoother photo/video editing workflow, but I am not a professional (i.e., it's not my main income).
I am not sure if I go with the 14" from a private seller, or the Apple store. What would you do?
hey josh, been watching some of your videos when I saw you on Jarrod's channel way back. I just wanted to get your opinion if the M1 Macbook pro 14 is still worth it to be used for mobile programming nowadays? for more context, I'll use xamarin / maui and planning to also learn swiftUIs. Do you think its better to get the M1 right now or should I save more to get the M2?
How would you rate this keyboard, especially in comparison to a 2015 15" Macbook pro? I have been holding off an upgrade for the past 5 years, as I type a lot and the keyboard and trackpad are the two most important features for me on a portable computer.
I personally feel its about the same. Speaking off the top of my head as I owned both (without researching).... 2015 MP keyboard felt like it had more travel. Travel on 2021 MBP 14 and 16 is good enough but keyboard feels a bit more precise
this is a personal preference. you ought to try a demo set at the store.
@@extrasoap4881 agreed
Is the 14” keyboard comfortable to use? it looks as if the edge will dig into one’s wrists. Thanks
brilliant, clear and precise intro, well done!
My only concern for 14' is the battery life
Haven't had any issues with battery life on mine. Lasts a good two days for me with light, every day tasks
Damn this channel is underrated.
Apple received the 2nd mbp 14 because of the thumb feeling with the space bar which wasn’t much different on the 3rd ? That’s service 👀
Hi, and I’ve just inherited a 27” 2013 iMac, 3.2 Ghz, 16/1TB (Mojave) and it works perfect . - . My normal daily workhorse is a 13” 2015 Retina MacBook Pro, 2.9 Ghz, 16/256 (Big Sur) - and it works perfect, too. The questions: which of these machines should I use as my daily desktop driver? And is it worth keeping them both?
If you need a machine to work in an office or at a desk specifically - then use the iMac. For pretty much anything else, using a laptop is going to be good.
Great vid Bud.
Good call out on wi-fi. I used an Ethernet cable on my M1 Pro and my internet speed literally 7-10x ed
I want to thank you for this much needed perspective. Do you suggest the second upgrade to 10 core/14 gpu from the base base? Or do you think the 14” model wouldnt even be able to handle this upgrade?
i‘d like to know that as well
Hi. If it helps, I have the MBP 14 M1 Pro 10/16 - 32 and it runs like a charm. Battery life is a bit shorter that what I hoped for but I went from an unbeaten M1 MBA. Switching to power saving mode I can work for 10 hours a day doing light work (emails/web/ my windows VM) and have around 20-25% battery remaining.
I've never heard the fans, even though I did notice them kicking in in some situations, but the never went past 4000rpm at which speed they are mostly silent.
Really an excellent machine, but forget about AAA gaming.
@@DarkAngel56666 hey, thank you! I bought the 10 core version as well but not with additional graphic cores, 32 ram and 1 TB … I‘ll see how it will be for me when I use it.
@@arohani I bet you’ll be happy, it’s really an excellent machine !
@@DarkAngel56666 Disagree with the idea with "forget about AAA gaming". I have the base 14inch m1 pro and out of curiosity downloaded steam for mac and tried a few triple AAA type games.
with Metro Exodus I can play high settings on an ultrawide monitor with 3400x1400 resolution 60 plus frames per second. With No Man's Sky which recently came out for Macs, I get high settings on the same ultrawide monitor with 3400x1400, frame rates into the 70-80's. The fan doesn't even come on or at least I don't hear it. Also incredibly easy to use a PS4 controller with rumble feature through bluetooth.
Pleasantly surprised that my laptop for doing work can also play graphically intensive games at decent settings without any issue. I've tried other games like Dying Light and Shadow of the Tomb Raider and they also play at 3400x1400 on high settings. Amazing stuff for such a small form factor.
What’s a good Mac book for music and education?
3:46 Android Studio doesn't run fullscreen (wrapping the notch)? Damn, that'll be really annoying for me!
Nice review! I’m a little confused about what you said regarding the space bar tho. I got a 14th inch the other day and don’t seem to have an issue, but I’m not sure what I’m supposed to look for in the first place haha
I mostly agree with your 14” review but I honestly find the weight heavy, like really heavy compared to my ultrabook choices. Then again I’m not a very big guy (though very fit) so maybe it effects me more than others but not sure. I’m also still not a huge fan of the keyboard but it may be I’m projecting from my history with older macs. Still great to hear your long term review. Especially about the app issues.
Has this changed for you or do you still find it heavy?
@@sasanmanprinceofpersia1233 I’m getting used to it but every time I haul my 14 inch lemur pro around for a few days I really notice the difference again. I think though if the 14 inch MacBook Pro is your only our 80% of the time mobile you probably will be ok. Personally I wish it was about .5 lbs lighter though. That’d be sweet. :)
Cheers :)
You had me at unbiased!
Is there any signs of wear on your keyboard keys? Mine are. going glossy and looking very ugly after only 4 months.
Outstanding review as always. I chose M1 MacBook Air for my everyday travel laptop. I have M1 Mac Mini as my desktop, and it is powerful enough for my 4k video editing needs.
Seriously, even though they are just M1, they are miles ahead compared to my Intel based desktop and laptop I used. No crash while editing, and 10x faster on rendering 4k videos.
Hey, I wanted to ask something.
Josh said the excel runs better on windows...
And how about others Microsoft apps? Does it runs good on your experience?
Amd will catch up
@@BK-rh1lj They run smooth and run fine, what he means if you are a Excel power user (5% of the population) yes you will notice some very advanced features missing - for 95% of people everything you need to do is possible so don't worry and focus on the rest of the device.
How much ram do you have?
So i need a new Laptop for Video editing (4k) and in the future for uni (either software engineering or digital arts). Problem is i hate Fans, need much power but also want to be portable… I was in Store and the 14“ is a great size for portability, but as im using the touchpad most of the time when im working away from my desktop at home (school, cafe, etc.) the 16“ also is great as the touchpad is awesome. I probably would get the M1 Max (32Core) and 64GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD as i have an external SSD and 200GB of Cloud Storage. My questions now. Yall think im going with too high specs? I think of the future where i maybe export a 4k Video in Final Cut and do work in Photoshop or Blender or code something in XCode or IntelliJ… Also yall think i should get the 14“ with M1 Pro and 32GB for portability? At home it will be plugged in to 2-3 external Monitors… I just cant decide and need some comments that help me and my brain to think all that through…
I would strongly recommend you go with more than 1TB for video. I personally went 32g of ram but 2 TB
@@JustJoshTech Even when i have an fast external 1TB SSD and 200GB ICloud Plus? Its an additional 460€ for me…
@@legendjxli1266 It totally depends on what you are filming. Video files can be large and may take a long while to download to your local computer for you to edit.
@@legendjxli1266 Btw I was recommending you consider it (2TB) and save money on the RAM by going 32g... again it depends on what you are editing
Let's say I'd have a lazy Saturday and would want to stream Netflix and do some light web surfing. Would the battery on the 14" last over 10 hours?
Thanks for a great and detailed review. I would however not attribute Dropbox issues to the M1 architecture. The Dropbox app sucks no matter the platform. I have had similar issues on an Intel-based Mac.
Hi Josh, What do you recommend 16GB vs 32GB RAM? I don't do any video editing but I do run with ALOT of chrome tab open and video files. Thanks!!
16 gb of RAM on the the M1 chip feels / acts like 24-32gb in my experience. Chrome is definitely a beast, and 16gb will handle multiple windows running many tabs easily. 32 GB is a bit overkill. I recently got the 14 Macbook Pro M1 coming from an iMac i5 with 24gb. The m1 runs butterly smooth.
I did consider the Macbook Air, or previous 13" Macbook Pro. I used / refurbished one with 16gb could be great value. I needed the quality of the screen on the new 14" though for graphic development.
@@malfunkt thanks for the info!!
thank you for awesome review on those MacBooks !!. But I wonder way you got the 14 inch base model over the unband 10 core cpu and 14 or 16 gpu. I really don't know if the upgrade is worth it. (i am a program engineer student) and i will love to hear you opinion on this in regard of battery life fan noise and performance. One more thing that i cold not find answer even in apple support, in windows we have winKey+p to quick change screen options is there any quick change in mac os?
When you downgraded to the M1 Pro 14" did you still go for 32GB ram?
Josh for the M1 Max 16” for 6k video editing do you recommend 32gb or 64gb ram?
Being unable to change SSD was a dealbreaker for me. Unfortunately
new mic sounds good 👍
Hi Josh! Tell please, whats the colour of Macbooks mentioned in review? And what colour do you prefer for personal use at the end? Not so much interested in aesthetics, but whether silver is more contrasty and has keyboard with more distraction while working maybe and stuff. Colour of Macbooks in review looks good.
Silver is what I have and like
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