The mechanism looks like a copy of Pro-sim Quaife sequential shifter. As regards the neutral button, I think it's more a nuisance than something you really want to have there. With my shifter I simply use AutoHotkey and all I have to do to quickly engage neutral is to keep downshift pressed for half a second. Easy and practical.
@@DouglasThompson Always here bud, although I may be a bit quiet lately. My streaming/editing PC has been acting up lately, sometimes it just won't turn on so I've been spending a lot of time dealing with that. It's really been messing with content creation a lot, but that's how it goes sometimes..
Hey Doug, Thanks for your review of the SIMAGIC SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER Q1S. I purchased one and am expecting it in this week. Do you by chance know the thread size and pitch of the shift shaft of the Q1S, and is it the same size a the orginal Simagic Q1 shifter? Again, Great review- Gordon.
love the shifter and this is more in my price point. i wonder why they didnt put the R12 port next to the USB port in the back of the shifter. if can, i need to know, does the R12 port work with the dd1 wheelbase (or any other fanatec wheel base). if i dont have to run another usb cable to my pc i would rather not
No I have tried mixing other brands and they never work... It is odd they didn't put them next to each other but cables are easy enough to re-route luckily. :)
I think the neutral button is superfluous and the double USB Yes, that was a success, I would mount it in my cockpit the other way around that you carry it...so the USB cable would bother me, or buy a 90º USB cable.
I’m interested in getting a job at the post office. Could you offer me some time personally to discuss how to go about It? I understand your busy and you don’t owe me or anyone else anything. Any help would be appreciated. In any case I’ve been watching way before the bmx videos and I love the honesty and sincerity of your content. You always make your audience feel like it’s ok to just enjoy life and not worry about what the world is doing. Thanks so much. Of you were willing to talk, any online chat or video platform or even phone would be fine. I have a few personal websites I would be comfortable offering a email from one of those as I can always delete it after we connect before sharing it on RUclips becomes a problem. Anyways, thank you so much for continuing to make videos, I’ve always wanted to but I have never found the drive to do so. Even if you could take some time to give me advice on that on a personal level would be amazing. I hope all is well, thanks again! Dorje
I mean if I had the money the prosim would be the best bet but I have yet to find a better Sequential feel for this price range. Simagic still wins for the price.
Do you perhaps have some info on availability in Europe? Almost nothing to find about this shifter online, let alone find a retailer who sells it in Europe. Other Simagic products are available here though.
I always notice you mentioning weight for the motion rig, what rig do you have? I have the SFX150 and I keep adding more weight, giant buttkickers etc and I have not seen an issue hoping i am not causing a problem to it
You are probably fine, I am running only two small actuators from PROSIMU though. I think there is a 350lb weight limit. I can't recall exactly. Just based on physics, lighter is better when it comes to motion. Less wear, less strain, quicker responses from the game, more aggressive motion. :)
@@DouglasThompson makes sense, in that case I should be ok I think its 250kg per actuator or something, it better be as I have so much more to add to the rig in future upgrades 😅
Simagic Q1S Sequential Shifter is a well build unit however you should take care when mounting the base to your rig. I experienced that installing the unit utilizing the supplied screws could damage the circuit control board when installed. My rig is a Next Level GT setup which has flat mounting plates and without adding washers or shims resulted in a damaged shifter circuit board. The company that I purchased my shifter from did allow me to return the unit for a refund.
@@performance13able the Q1 is beefier you will notice much more resistance. I am starting to like certain things about the Q2 more but I do wish it was hall effect and more resistance. I think I can mod it though
@Chap I had the same issue the factory supplied mounting screws were to long and I damaged my curcuit board. However, Sim Racing Pros sent me a brand new Q1S Shifter even after the broken one was lost by UPS during the return shipment process. If I could give Sim Racing Pros 1000 Gold Stars I would. This unit is solidly built owver a little loud and I can not use it late night I am still glad I purchased it. Hopefully someone will figure out a mod to make it even quiter like Douuglas Thomson has done.
I have noticed this as well but it rarely is an issue. I have gone to pull the shifter and decided to back off before and still shifted on accident and I have also double shifted on accident due to getting bounced around in my motion rig but again it happens very rarely so I consider it a non-issue. :)
i purchased this shifter and my goodness is it pretty bad. the shifter feel is great but the build quality is shocking, mine was squeeking so bad out of the box so i opened the top and seen it wasnt greased nearly enough where it needed to be so i took it apart and greased it up, then half a day later the screw at the bottom of the handle inside fell out and jammed into the mechanism, again i opened it up and put that screw back in but if you put it in tight then the mechanism does not return properly between shifts so its actually designed to be loose but with no thread lock applied it works its way looser and looser until it just falls out and jams up the shifter so after the second time of it falling out i put a bit of thread locker on it and put it in almost all the way but not fully so time will tell if the thread lock will prevent it working its way out. Then just to make things worse the shifter stopped shifting at the correct time, it would shift too early before the clunk of the mechanism so after a full day almost of trying to figure out what is going on i noticed one of the microswitches was not in the best position by a few mm so i had to move it around slightly without breaking the solder and now it shifts exactly when i want it to... i mean this thing is shocking, but thankfully pretty user serviceable, i had it 2 days up to that point, i should have sent it back but i knew i could fix the issues, but my gosh, never again for simagic from me, i tried to post about the issues on the official simagic facebook page just to see if its common or not and should i just exchange it for another and the admins there just refused to put the post up lol should have known better with what we know about this company and their actions online, terrible. i still have the shifter because its now working (3rd day lol) but waiting to see if that screw comes out again and its going back never to have me as a customer again.
@@DouglasThompson there is a screw at the very bottom of the lever that basically keeps the metal lever that engages the metal rotation mechanism and keeps it attached to the handle, if that screw is too tight the metal lever does not move up and down smoothly as it shifts and will kind of bind up so you have to keep that screw loose but without thread lock it slowly works it’s way out, well mine did anyway. I went back and watched your original q1 review and there is a point in which you mention a loose screw inside you noticed, I wonder if that is the same screw, I don’t know because I only have this Q1S version. I mainly noticed the issue because I shift a little to slowly, so I would shift down a gear and keep holding the lever as I return to centre and noticed it wasn’t clicking back to centre ready for the next shift. Either way it’s been a nightmare, as it is now it’s in a really good place, working and shifting nice, but was some work to get it that way. Cheers for the content dude.
@jinx20001 Ya, Not enough sim companies use threadlocker on thier gear, I keep a bottle around because I have broken a lot of gear from many companies. Lol Glad to hear you got yours going again, most would just give up and move on but you made it happen. Happy Thanksgiving!
You definitely can! If you have a frame, you can add to it! Do what I did and buy some aluminum extrusion, add things price by peice till the last thing is the frame itself!!!
@@illproduction972 I get you 100% space is a commodity over there. I still think you can make it happen. And you can set the shifter resistance pretty low on this unit it's still going to really nice feel.
@Kfir Bar, did you ever come up with a mounting solution for the Q1 S? I have a PlaySeat Challenge and live in NYC s well and do agree with you about the mounting issues it can have for additional gear.
@@mra091666 so i sort of did. I just didn’t get a chance to order the parts. I have the handbrake mounted directly onto the frame and the H pattern mounted using a metal bracket off eBay. I figured i can fit the seq in front of the H pattern
I love your reviews and I've been waiting for this one. Also, I don't know if I missed it or not, but it would be a good idea to try stock style shifter knobs on these shifters. Some of us are vain and want pretty shift knobs.
You did! Lol Until the SleepyPants channel can stand on its own, I am posting SimRacing vids over there first and then over here later If it's an important video that I feel needs more exposure. It also wouldn't be fair of me if Simagic/SimRacingPros.com sent me an item for review and I only posted on my smaller channel. ;)
I don't understand why sim racers wanting everything so quiet when in a real car everything is so loud. It's just unrealistic expectations if you want the full experience.
They want it quiet so there are less noise complaints from family and neighbors. ;) I am lucky enough to have a dedicated garage to myself. Most people don't have that luxury, so if an item is loud, I try to mention it to warn/inform people. :)
@@ryanchenoweth5673 Sim Racing: Simulated racing or racing simulation, commonly known as simply sim racing, are the collective terms for racing game software that attempts to accurately simulate auto racing, complete with real-world variables such as fuel usage, damage, tire wear and grip, and suspension settings.
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great review, thanks!!
amazing channel
Thank you so much!!! Got some pretty cool reviews coming soon!!!
I like the Q- tip: ) seems like a great shifter
Ya, I can highly recommend it based on my experience so far. I have it feeling VERY nice at the moment.
@@DouglasThompson thanks man.
The mechanism looks like a copy of Pro-sim Quaife sequential shifter. As regards the neutral button, I think it's more a nuisance than something you really want to have there. With my shifter I simply use AutoHotkey and all I have to do to quickly engage neutral is to keep downshift pressed for half a second. Easy and practical.
That's a cool idea!
How do you program auto hotket to do that? thanks
Hey buddy, how goes it? Pretty interesting shifter, really informative video as always. Keep up the great work bud.
Hey man, I appreciate the support as always, it has been busy keeping this content going. Lots of behind the scenes stuff happening right now too.
@@DouglasThompson Always here bud, although I may be a bit quiet lately. My streaming/editing PC has been acting up lately, sometimes it just won't turn on so I've been spending a lot of time dealing with that. It's really been messing with content creation a lot, but that's how it goes sometimes..
@@ProSimRacing ya my internet was shit for like a month and was really messing with me as well. I feel you.
Considering if I need to change now, the N lever is nice!
Ya I really like the idea. The N button is not a microswitch btw, it is a retracting pin system.
Hey Doug, Thanks for your review of the SIMAGIC SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER Q1S. I purchased one and am expecting it in this week. Do you by chance know the thread size and pitch of the shift shaft of the Q1S, and is it the same size a the orginal Simagic Q1 shifter?
Again, Great review-
Gordon.
It is the same size as the Q1, I believe it's the same thread pattern as my 04+06 Subaru wrx's.
Thanks Doug I'll just get the extended handle when back in stock. I appreciate the info - Stay Safe
@@performance13able it's the safer bet and the handle really feels good!
love the shifter and this is more in my price point. i wonder why they didnt put the R12 port next to the USB port in the back of the shifter. if can, i need to know, does the R12 port work with the dd1 wheelbase (or any other fanatec wheel base). if i dont have to run another usb cable to my pc i would rather not
No I have tried mixing other brands and they never work... It is odd they didn't put them next to each other but cables are easy enough to re-route luckily. :)
I think the neutral button is superfluous and the double USB Yes, that was a success, I would mount it in my cockpit the other way around that you carry it...so the USB cable would bother me, or buy a 90º USB cable.
I'm running it backwards currently and I have some simple solutions/mods for an update video. Stay tuned
I’m interested in getting a job at the post office. Could you offer me some time personally to discuss how to go about It? I understand your busy and you don’t owe me or anyone else anything. Any help would be appreciated. In any case I’ve been watching way before the bmx videos and I love the honesty and sincerity of your content. You always make your audience feel like it’s ok to just enjoy life and not worry about what the world is doing. Thanks so much.
Of you were willing to talk, any online chat or video platform or even phone would be fine. I have a few personal websites I would be comfortable offering a email from one of those as I can always delete it after we connect before sharing it on RUclips becomes a problem.
Anyways, thank you so much for continuing to make videos, I’ve always wanted to but I have never found the drive to do so. Even if you could take some time to give me advice on that on a personal level would be amazing.
I hope all is well, thanks again!
Dorje
Ya, I recognized your name, email me at demureg@gmail.com and I will help you with what I can.
I’m using the magnetic one from Ali and looking for the upgrade.
Does the Q1 or Q1S is your top choice today? or should look for sth else?
I mean if I had the money the prosim would be the best bet but I have yet to find a better Sequential feel for this price range. Simagic still wins for the price.
Thanks Douglas
Doug thread size and pitch - 12mm x 1.25
Doug, I recieved my Q1 today - Great Shifter thanks for your review: ruclips.net/video/tBzmR3Z-5Xk/видео.html
Nice! I'm glad I could help!
Do you perhaps have some info on availability in Europe? Almost nothing to find about this shifter online, let alone find a retailer who sells it in Europe. Other Simagic products are available here though.
Who is your local distributor?
I always notice you mentioning weight for the motion rig, what rig do you have? I have the SFX150 and I keep adding more weight, giant buttkickers etc and I have not seen an issue hoping i am not causing a problem to it
You are probably fine, I am running only two small actuators from PROSIMU though. I think there is a 350lb weight limit. I can't recall exactly. Just based on physics, lighter is better when it comes to motion. Less wear, less strain, quicker responses from the game, more aggressive motion. :)
@@DouglasThompson makes sense, in that case I should be ok I think its 250kg per actuator or something, it better be as I have so much more to add to the rig in future upgrades 😅
@@reprobite you should definitely be ok if that's per actuator.
Simagic Q1S Sequential Shifter is a well build unit however you should take care when mounting the base to your rig. I experienced that installing the unit utilizing the supplied screws could damage the circuit control board when installed. My rig is a Next Level GT setup which has flat mounting plates and without adding washers or shims resulted in a damaged shifter circuit board. The company that I purchased my shifter from did allow me to return the unit for a refund.
Good tip! Glad they took care of you...did you pick up another?
Doug, I took a page out of your book and purchased the Simagic Q1 Shifter.
@@performance13able the Q1 is beefier you will notice much more resistance. I am starting to like certain things about the Q2 more but I do wish it was hall effect and more resistance. I think I can mod it though
@Chap I had the same issue the factory supplied mounting screws were to long and I damaged my curcuit board. However, Sim Racing Pros sent me a brand new Q1S Shifter even after the broken one was lost by UPS during the return shipment process. If I could give Sim Racing Pros 1000 Gold Stars I would. This unit is solidly built owver a little loud and I can not use it late night I am still glad I purchased it. Hopefully someone will figure out a mod to make it even quiter like Douuglas Thomson has done.
@@michaelanderson9068 remember you can just back out the main set screw all the way and it won't make any noise. ;)
Cant you turn the handle 180°? Also do you have a video of the mechanism working?
You can and it's my main unit so any of my videos after this will feature it.
Oh the handle no... you can't, you can only turn the unit.
damn I wanna get one just for the neutral button
Ita a very nice shifter and the price is much more reasonable. I don't think you will find a better feeling sequential shifter at this price point.
@@DouglasThompson ya i just upgraded my pedals from logitech to simforge mark1. so i going to have to start saving again but i need a wheel base next
Solid shifter , but got design bug …. Try your shifter just light push or pull the switch will activated even you haven fully trigger the shifter ….
I have noticed this as well but it rarely is an issue. I have gone to pull the shifter and decided to back off before and still shifted on accident and I have also double shifted on accident due to getting bounced around in my motion rig but again it happens very rarely so I consider it a non-issue. :)
@@DouglasThompson already feedback to Simagic team , hopefully they will improve on it ….. finnger cross ….
@@sweeseng85 agreed, It still feels super nice. And I've been crazy hard on it as I am on all my gear and it's been holding up great!
@@DouglasThompson I love the shifting sound , like driving Pagani ! 🤣🤣
@@sweeseng85 super clack
What rim do you use in this video? Thanks
Nrg reinforced 320mm
i purchased this shifter and my goodness is it pretty bad. the shifter feel is great but the build quality is shocking, mine was squeeking so bad out of the box so i opened the top and seen it wasnt greased nearly enough where it needed to be so i took it apart and greased it up, then half a day later the screw at the bottom of the handle inside fell out and jammed into the mechanism, again i opened it up and put that screw back in but if you put it in tight then the mechanism does not return properly between shifts so its actually designed to be loose but with no thread lock applied it works its way looser and looser until it just falls out and jams up the shifter so after the second time of it falling out i put a bit of thread locker on it and put it in almost all the way but not fully so time will tell if the thread lock will prevent it working its way out. Then just to make things worse the shifter stopped shifting at the correct time, it would shift too early before the clunk of the mechanism so after a full day almost of trying to figure out what is going on i noticed one of the microswitches was not in the best position by a few mm so i had to move it around slightly without breaking the solder and now it shifts exactly when i want it to...
i mean this thing is shocking, but thankfully pretty user serviceable, i had it 2 days up to that point, i should have sent it back but i knew i could fix the issues, but my gosh, never again for simagic from me, i tried to post about the issues on the official simagic facebook page just to see if its common or not and should i just exchange it for another and the admins there just refused to put the post up lol should have known better with what we know about this company and their actions online, terrible. i still have the shifter because its now working (3rd day lol) but waiting to see if that screw comes out again and its going back never to have me as a customer again.
The screws on your unit wouldn't allow it to shift if you screwed them too tight?
@@DouglasThompson there is a screw at the very bottom of the lever that basically keeps the metal lever that engages the metal rotation mechanism and keeps it attached to the handle, if that screw is too tight the metal lever does not move up and down smoothly as it shifts and will kind of bind up so you have to keep that screw loose but without thread lock it slowly works it’s way out, well mine did anyway.
I went back and watched your original q1 review and there is a point in which you mention a loose screw inside you noticed, I wonder if that is the same screw, I don’t know because I only have this Q1S version.
I mainly noticed the issue because I shift a little to slowly, so I would shift down a gear and keep holding the lever as I return to centre and noticed it wasn’t clicking back to centre ready for the next shift.
Either way it’s been a nightmare, as it is now it’s in a really good place, working and shifting nice, but was some work to get it that way. Cheers for the content dude.
@jinx20001 Ya, Not enough sim companies use threadlocker on thier gear, I keep a bottle around because I have broken a lot of gear from many companies. Lol
Glad to hear you got yours going again, most would just give up and move on but you made it happen.
Happy Thanksgiving!
@@DouglasThompson nice one mate, happy thanksgiving to you and family!
Hell yes!
:) oh Yaaa!
Question is wich program is the neutral switch compatibel with. Anyone who knows?
So far only game I've played that uses nuetral is rbr
And beam NG I think maybe Assetto Corsa?
i love long shafts
Don't we all
i wonder if i can get creative and find a way to mount this on my playseat challenge. already have an H pattern and handbrake mounted
You definitely can! If you have a frame, you can add to it! Do what I did and buy some aluminum extrusion, add things price by peice till the last thing is the frame itself!!!
@@DouglasThompson I’m on a foldable rig. Nyc problems ya know? Haha
@@illproduction972 I get you 100% space is a commodity over there. I still think you can make it happen. And you can set the shifter resistance pretty low on this unit it's still going to really nice feel.
@Kfir Bar, did you ever come up with a mounting solution for the Q1 S? I have a PlaySeat Challenge and live in NYC s well and do agree with you about the mounting issues it can have for additional gear.
@@mra091666 so i sort of did. I just didn’t get a chance to order the parts. I have the handbrake mounted directly onto the frame and the H pattern mounted using a metal bracket off eBay. I figured i can fit the seq in front of the H pattern
Is it ok to run this at high tension or will it wear faster?
It will definitely wear things faster but it can take some abuse.
@@DouglasThompsonthanks man! Loving the shifter
When will tthe new simagic h pattern shifter coming up? 😅
Hopefully soon!
I love your reviews and I've been waiting for this one.
Also, I don't know if I missed it or not, but it would be a good idea to try stock style shifter knobs on these shifters. Some of us are vain and want pretty shift knobs.
You can use aftermarket knobs, it's actually the same thread pattern as my Subaru wrx's.
Coup de grâce ! ;)
@@SatoriZei :)
I feel like I already watched this video. Am I tripping?
You did! Lol
Until the SleepyPants channel can stand on its own, I am posting SimRacing vids over there first and then over here later If it's an important video that I feel needs more exposure. It also wouldn't be fair of me if Simagic/SimRacingPros.com sent me an item for review and I only posted on my smaller channel. ;)
I don't understand why sim racers wanting everything so quiet when in a real car everything is so loud. It's just unrealistic expectations if you want the full experience.
They want it quiet so there are less noise complaints from family and neighbors. ;)
I am lucky enough to have a dedicated garage to myself. Most people don't have that luxury, so if an item is loud, I try to mention it to warn/inform people. :)
Light sleeping wives appreciate silence.
@@fallrisktv correct ;)
Because we dont race real cars or motorbikes inside our homes...
@@ryanchenoweth5673 Sim Racing:
Simulated racing or racing simulation, commonly known as simply sim racing, are the collective terms for racing game software that attempts to accurately simulate auto racing, complete with real-world variables such as fuel usage, damage, tire wear and grip, and suspension settings.
Not even showing the actual piece in the video.
What's that?
@@DouglasThompson nothing, actually, indeed :D
@@sayasith lol
@@DouglasThompson Actually just talking shit, sitting on a chair, not showing the product itself. Very bad video and content. :D
@@sayasith lol I have multiple videos on simagic shifters. ;) also I like your profile icon.
Sounds and acts like zss Becker.
Not familiar with that, us that a good thing?
It’s a guy on Twitter and RUclips that sounds like I and kind of us your sense of humour. He covers crypto