I would love to see an 8R 410 come into our yard. It would have to be one of the best row crop tractors released in the past decade. Unfortunately the prices of machinery are so high now. You would have to put a good 1000 hours on per year (at least) to justify the upgrade. The price that you mentioned was about $1M NZD. That is ridiculous for a row crop wheeled tractor.
That 8rx pulling that ripper is the optimal setup. You have provided a video already a couple years ago why tracks are advantageous over the tires and you see that once again. I would love to see a cab ride with the 410 using the EVT transmission with command pro to see how well it performs.
I have seen several 8RX 410s arrive at my local dealer the past two weeks with tags showing them going to farms I film at. They are replacing 8RX 370s. The reason the farms got the 370s because they had IVT and the 410s had power shift. I suspect all the new ones are 410 EVT. I should be filming an EVT 410 during corn planting. The farm in this video was demoing the 8RX 410 you see at then end to possibly replace 9Rs.
@@bigtractorpower that would be awesome. Comparing putting power to the ground with IVT and EVT would be interesting. I know EVT is quieter and has other benefits. But putting power to the ground is what I am most interested in. After all, that was the main reason they have stuck with power shift transmissions in the past.
Great video, as always. I really enjoy seeing the reviews covering both the tractor and the implement. It seemed like this farm has both the 8R 410 (with dual wheels) and the 8RX track version of the same tractor. It would have been interesting to see/hear from the operators on the difference of the two in pulling the same implement. I'd also like to see reviews of other implements (sprayers, planters etc) in future videos. Thanks for this 👍
looks like they needed more rubber under them. we recently bought a JD2950 as a back up chore tractor and it has surprised us with its power to weight ratio, German made wee machine
This is not Garnett Farms. It is a farm in the next county that covers allot of acres with 8R 410s. Garnetts have 9RX and 9R tractors for most of their work.
I'm wondering if it's a weight issue rather than horsepower? There's an older video on this channel of a 600+ hp dual track caterpillar challenger doing vertical tillage and it spins out too.
@jeffb321 yes I think alot of it is weight you see how the plow is pulling the tractor around they could have bought 9r440 cheaper an handle that ripper no problem
Just once I like for you to actually go out and measure exactly how deep they are ripping the soil . It's very similar to a no till cultivator that is used to break the sod between the rows in no till . A no till cultivator planted crops.
Transmissions sure have come a long way. The quad range seemed like a big upgrade from whatever that weird shifting pattern the old 3010s and 4010s had. Now their essentially automatic transmissions.
This red clay soil is very tough to sub soil after two crops in one year. You have two combine passes, two grain cart passes, two planter passes and 7 sprayer passes. If the tractor begins to lose progress they ease off the ripper and bury it again once progress speeds up. There are spots that even a 640 hp will come to halt in.
Great video! I notice the tractors having to take the rippers out of the ground a lot honestly thats going against the purpose of ripping and I don't think those tractors are heavy enough! Those tractors should weigh at least 30,000 lb and should also be able to be weighted heavier than 40,000 lb! I've seen A. Challenger 1042 doing the same job now. I know that soils are different everywhere, but that tractor never had to take the ripper out of the ground! I personally think John Deere is too big of a company not to have a bigger fixed frame tractor! But then again in my personal opinion I think. John Deere 's are not as heavy duty as other manufacturers and they haven't been for years! I personally don't like them!
It’s not sitting the depth control it’s the amount of compaction that they’re hitting, and the resistance from the grain carts. This field was harvested in June as winter wheat, a second crop of soybeans were planted, and then harvested in October. The field was sprayed seven times from January through August. It had two sets of combines on it and two sets of green carts as well as two planter passes. Lots of compaction.
When they hit a highly compacted area and the tractor starts to spin they ease of the 14 inches deep until the tractor pull through. The ground can be really tough. If the tractor struggles to pull through imagine the corn trying to grow through that area next summer unripped.
kind of defeats the purpose thats the exact area they need to rip… those tractors are not heavy enough if they have to lift out a 14” ripper in my opinion… but great video Happy New Year BTP
Id expect better efficiency through less road time by putting the tractors in different fields. On the other hand, might get better speed with the competition of 4 machines in the same field. One things for certain, sure looks cool with 2.5 million dollars of machinery tearin up a field!
Most farms in this area run 18 inches deep 915 v-rippers. I said 18 on the video because I guessed it was the same. I asked the farmer after filing and he said 14. The brochure shows max depth it’s 16 inches on a 2100. A 915 will go 18 inches easy.
@@bigtractorpowerwe are flat landers and the biggest straight bar rippers we use are 6 shanks. We prefer the Vs on the bigger ones. We rip in the fall with parts of the rotation
Does the track tractor slip at all pulling that ripper? Looks like some hard ground there or maybe a little muddy where the operator had to lift the ripper.
In spots the 8R slips and struggles to pull through. Over all it has the power and weight but this sub soiling is a though pull on wheels or tracks. The tracked models in the field do not slip but they slow way way down on the hard pulls.
For this area in rolling ground the sub soiling works well. You might notice spots on the slopes where they left it unworked. The goal is to break compaction from the 2022 corn season and the 2023 wheat and soybean crops on this fields. It has two combine and grain cart passes this year plus 7 sprayer passes. The ripper breaks the ground underneath but leaves the wheat straw and soybean residue. Next spring they will no till plant the field into corn.
That rippers sure is leaving a lot of clumps in the field. Maybe if he would let it all the way down where the coulters could do their job it would do better
This field was in wheat in June. They harvested with a Shelbourne header. It harvests just the grain and leaves the straw standing. Soybeans a double cropped right into the standing straw. After the soybean harvest you have a thick straw mat. It pulls up in places but they will just no till plant corn next spring without any other passes. Wheat harvest with a Shelbourne ruclips.net/video/Kv2F_4CNYH8/видео.htmlsi=fnSBT2ZuJiYsFEXH Corn planting in the spring ruclips.net/video/KghQZdeWZp0/видео.htmlsi=szckte4yffH66YTH
It could either be issues with too high of compaction, rocks, or a high erosion area they don’t want to wash out. Or your talking about the end rows which they probably do later after turning around.
@@bigtractorpower On the West coast rippers to us are like Wilcox, Koenig, Smith welding, Schmeiser and not the shallower running inlines. We are talking two different worlds of how they pull.
God bless the American farmer. Happy New Year and thanks for another great video!
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I would love to see an 8R 410 come into our yard. It would have to be one of the best row crop tractors released in the past decade. Unfortunately the prices of machinery are so high now. You would have to put a good 1000 hours on per year (at least) to justify the upgrade. The price that you mentioned was about $1M NZD. That is ridiculous for a row crop wheeled tractor.
Thanks for including the info on the implement also Jason.
Love them green tractors
That 8rx pulling that ripper is the optimal setup. You have provided a video already a couple years ago why tracks are advantageous over the tires and you see that once again. I would love to see a cab ride with the 410 using the EVT transmission with command pro to see how well it performs.
I have seen several 8RX 410s arrive at my local dealer the past two weeks with tags showing them going to farms I film at. They are replacing 8RX 370s. The reason the farms got the 370s because they had IVT and the 410s had power shift. I suspect all the new ones are 410 EVT. I should be filming an EVT 410 during corn planting. The farm in this video was demoing the 8RX 410 you see at then end to possibly replace 9Rs.
@@bigtractorpower that would be awesome. Comparing putting power to the ground with IVT and EVT would be interesting. I know EVT is quieter and has other benefits. But putting power to the ground is what I am most interested in. After all, that was the main reason they have stuck with power shift transmissions in the past.
Great video, as always. I really enjoy seeing the reviews covering both the tractor and the implement. It seemed like this farm has both the 8R 410 (with dual wheels) and the 8RX track version of the same tractor. It would have been interesting to see/hear from the operators on the difference of the two in pulling the same implement. I'd also like to see reviews of other implements (sprayers, planters etc) in future videos. Thanks for this 👍
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Great video 👍
Ah, I'm early here. It's 21h40pm in the evening down here in South Africa, perfect time for this video
Good to hear. Thank you for watching.
Thanks for sharing the video Jason. Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
I Love Your John Deere Videos Buddy!
Good video Jason, happy new year.
It's great to see big tractors working hard💪😁 thank you for the video👍👍
Me encanta el farming de la vida real 😊😊
Nice ripper action 👍👍👍
looks like they needed more rubber under them. we recently bought a JD2950 as a back up chore tractor and it has surprised us with its power to weight ratio, German made wee machine
Deep tillage is so cool!! Jason, is this Garnett Farms?? Awesome video bud😊.
This is not Garnett Farms. It is a farm in the next county that covers allot of acres with 8R 410s. Garnetts have 9RX and 9R tractors for most of their work.
@@bigtractorpowerincredibly tight turning radius for such a massive machine.
I love all these ripping videos you have posted lately.👍👍
Always enjoy the videos . Have Happy new year
Tractor is having a rough time with that 9 shank ripper
I'm wondering if it's a weight issue rather than horsepower? There's an older video on this channel of a 600+ hp dual track caterpillar challenger doing vertical tillage and it spins out too.
@jeffb321 yes I think alot of it is weight you see how the plow is pulling the tractor around they could have bought 9r440 cheaper an handle that ripper no problem
Funny. We have red ones and they spin out as well. You always make the most piss ignorant comments.
@@gregjames5070I agree you rip that deep it’s gonna pull hard.
No it isn’t
Good video.
Seems to really be working that girl to the bone! Enjoyed watching as always tho!
I would like to know if they had a control field. Ripped vs not ripped, half and half. I would like to know the results
Got to be nice to be able to have 4 tractors Ripping the ground in this video
Just once I like for you to actually go out and measure exactly how deep they are ripping the soil . It's very similar to a no till cultivator that is used to break the sod between the rows in no till . A no till cultivator planted crops.
I use 1981 JD 4440. Quad range.
18 foot Krause disc
33 foot Allice Cultivator
16 foot Krause chisel
I run older equipment. Just farming 135 acres.
Transmissions sure have come a long way. The quad range seemed like a big upgrade from whatever that weird shifting pattern the old 3010s and 4010s had. Now their essentially automatic transmissions.
That wheeled Deere was getting a workout. That big 9 track machine was needed for that. Prolly a more clay type soil in that region
*Doing well. I observed a ripper going up and down. Was that due to the draft system or the operator's control?*
This red clay soil is very tough to sub soil after two crops in one year. You have two combine passes, two grain cart passes, two planter passes and 7 sprayer passes. If the tractor begins to lose progress they ease off the ripper and bury it again once progress speeds up. There are spots that even a 640 hp will come to halt in.
Actually, it would be the draft system on a John Deere, they suck.
Great video! I notice the tractors having to take the rippers out of the ground a lot honestly thats going against the purpose of ripping and I don't think those tractors are heavy enough! Those tractors should weigh at least 30,000 lb and should also be able to be weighted heavier than 40,000 lb! I've seen A. Challenger 1042 doing the same job now. I know that soils are different everywhere, but that tractor never had to take the ripper out of the ground! I personally think John Deere is too big of a company not to have a bigger fixed frame tractor! But then again in my personal opinion I think. John Deere 's are not as heavy duty as other manufacturers and they haven't been for years! I personally don't like them!
So is this the new version of the 915 V ripper basically??
They working to close together
The opperater doesn't know how to work that tractor, doesn't know how to set the depth control
It’s not sitting the depth control it’s the amount of compaction that they’re hitting, and the resistance from the grain carts. This field was harvested in June as winter wheat, a second crop of soybeans were planted, and then harvested in October. The field was sprayed seven times from January through August. It had two sets of combines on it and two sets of green carts as well as two planter passes. Lots of compaction.
Doing a good job. Noticed one ripper go up and down. Was that the draft system or the operater?
When they hit a highly compacted area and the tractor starts to spin they ease of the 14 inches deep until the tractor pull through. The ground can be really tough. If the tractor struggles to pull through imagine the corn trying to grow through that area next summer unripped.
kind of defeats the purpose thats the exact area they need to rip… those tractors are not heavy enough if they have to lift out a 14” ripper in my opinion… but great video Happy New Year BTP
Id expect better efficiency through less road time by putting the tractors in different fields. On the other hand, might get better speed with the competition of 4 machines in the same field. One things for certain, sure looks cool with 2.5 million dollars of machinery tearin up a field!
I thought sub soiling is deeper than just 14 inches
Most farms in this area run 18 inches deep 915 v-rippers. I said 18 on the video because I guessed it was the same. I asked the farmer after filing and he said 14. The brochure shows max depth it’s 16 inches on a 2100. A 915 will go 18 inches easy.
@@bigtractorpowerwe are flat landers and the biggest straight bar rippers we use are 6 shanks. We prefer the Vs on the bigger ones. We rip in the fall with parts of the rotation
Does the track tractor slip at all pulling that ripper? Looks like some hard ground there or maybe a little muddy where the operator had to lift the ripper.
In spots the 8R slips and struggles to pull through. Over all it has the power and weight but this sub soiling is a though pull on wheels or tracks. The tracked models in the field do not slip but they slow way way down on the hard pulls.
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Was this filmed in trig county KY?
Is DEF use mandatory?
those shanks dont look 30 inches apart.. that's like 70 cm..
Wouldnt it make more sense to plow the ground this deep and turn the ground an burrow the resedue?
For this area in rolling ground the sub soiling works well. You might notice spots on the slopes where they left it unworked. The goal is to break compaction from the 2022 corn season and the 2023 wheat and soybean crops on this fields. It has two combine and grain cart passes this year plus 7 sprayer passes. The ripper breaks the ground underneath but leaves the wheat straw and soybean residue. Next spring they will no till plant the field into corn.
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Dam the price of this new equipment is getting outta hand😮😮
It is a big investment.
That rippers sure is leaving a lot of clumps in the field. Maybe if he would let it all the way down where the coulters could do their job it would do better
This field was in wheat in June. They harvested with a Shelbourne header. It harvests just the grain and leaves the straw standing. Soybeans a double cropped right into the standing straw. After the soybean harvest you have a thick straw mat. It pulls up in places but they will just no till plant corn next spring without any other passes.
Wheat harvest with a Shelbourne ruclips.net/video/Kv2F_4CNYH8/видео.htmlsi=fnSBT2ZuJiYsFEXH
Corn planting in the spring ruclips.net/video/KghQZdeWZp0/видео.htmlsi=szckte4yffH66YTH
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Thank you Paulo.
Hello! Let there be ripping!
Not a farmer why do not plow spots in the field
It could either be issues with too high of compaction, rocks, or a high erosion area they don’t want to wash out. Or your talking about the end rows which they probably do later after turning around.
That is not real subsoiling.
What would you label it as? Too me these tractors were working hard to fracture the compaction.
@@bigtractorpower On the West coast rippers to us are like Wilcox, Koenig, Smith welding, Schmeiser and not the shallower running inlines. We are talking two different worlds of how they pull.
I agree we do things a bit different out west!