Yea this was a weird vid. Too many traveling/edc bags and only a few dedicated edc bags. The CPL16 is what we consider a true edc bag and the CTB20 a light travel bag (civic TRAVEL bag).
@mr_red13 every day carry looks different depending on what you carry, which varies from person to person. I used a 14L bag for a bit but found it had no extra room when needed for normal things. Upgraded to the ctb 20L which would be what I would now consider a minimum for edc. It could fit a day or two of clothes for light travel but the 26L would be a better bag for light travel of 3-5 days. I have the ctb 35 for normal travel which can carry over a week's worth of clothing. A good size for edc also depends on the size of the person. I'm a big guy so a 16L looks funny to me whereas 25 would be normal, which might be too big comfortably for someone far smaller.
@@britru3493 yes, some people’s edc can even require a 40L bag. But then they are looking at bags not marketed as everyday bags but rather step in the travel carry market. So perhaps the names “edc” and “travel” should be dropped and we should only use liters? What is your recommendation?
Pioneer Carry Duration Pack - at $315 and they slimmed down on the sternum strap and external water holder? - Pass (not worth it) This Pioneer bag won't survive as long as my inexpensive Wenger Synergy backpack ($100), which is worth five times as much and can hold more stuff .
Wenger/swiss gear synergy is priced well at $70-$100 but if you think it’s worth “five times as much” ($350-$500) you’re crazy. Bag is ugly as hell and materials are budget heavy.
@@LandoTomato Have you actually owned the bag? I deemed it's worth 5x because during the 14 years I had it, there were no tears or rips anywhere and it still look almost new after many trips while carried heavy stuff. When I buy any bags, I normally looking for a bag that meets my demands and is utilitarian, not its aesthetic. Ugly? It depends on each person. People are willingly paid $100K+ for CyberTruck and think it's the best looking truck out there, while others think differently. Budget? I'd not called it budget, because it hold up very well after that 14 years of use. Heavy? Compared to the typical backpack weight, it's only 1.5-2 lbs heavier due to the excellent padding - depending on an individual's level of fitness, it didn't feel heavy at all. I do owned some $200-$300 bags, but I've always ended up going back to this Wenger for my trips. BTW, I do like that Pioneer bag, but it lacks 2 must-have features that I need in a backpack.
Great vid as usual DP. good to see all the new kit! Cheers
good video! Ive settled currently on the 5.11 lvc 18 2.0 . its perfect for my needs. didnt come out in '24 but i think it was updated recently.
that go ruck m23 heritage is super cool!
What is the suitcase at 10:44?
Thank you for watching! That’s the level8 roadrunner :)
CPL16?
Yea this was a weird vid. Too many traveling/edc bags and only a few dedicated edc bags. The CPL16 is what we consider a true edc bag and the CTB20 a light travel bag (civic TRAVEL bag).
Thank you for watching and good call out! I have another video coming soon more focused on classic / legend edc bags which includes the CPL line :)
@@dannypacks ❤🙏🏼
@mr_red13 every day carry looks different depending on what you carry, which varies from person to person. I used a 14L bag for a bit but found it had no extra room when needed for normal things. Upgraded to the ctb 20L which would be what I would now consider a minimum for edc. It could fit a day or two of clothes for light travel but the 26L would be a better bag for light travel of 3-5 days. I have the ctb 35 for normal travel which can carry over a week's worth of clothing. A good size for edc also depends on the size of the person. I'm a big guy so a 16L looks funny to me whereas 25 would be normal, which might be too big comfortably for someone far smaller.
@@britru3493 yes, some people’s edc can even require a 40L bag. But then they are looking at bags not marketed as everyday bags but rather step in the travel carry market. So perhaps the names “edc” and “travel” should be dropped and we should only use liters? What is your recommendation?
Still waiting for your camino bag recommendation...
Pioneer Carry Duration Pack - at $315 and they slimmed down on the sternum strap and external water holder? - Pass (not worth it)
This Pioneer bag won't survive as long as my inexpensive Wenger Synergy backpack ($100), which is worth five times as much and can hold more stuff .
Wenger/swiss gear synergy is priced well at $70-$100 but if you think it’s worth “five times as much” ($350-$500) you’re crazy. Bag is ugly as hell and materials are budget heavy.
@@LandoTomato Have you actually owned the bag? I deemed it's worth 5x because during the 14 years I had it, there were no tears or rips anywhere and it still look almost new after many trips while carried heavy stuff. When I buy any bags, I normally looking for a bag that meets my demands and is utilitarian, not its aesthetic. Ugly? It depends on each person. People are willingly paid $100K+ for CyberTruck and think it's the best looking truck out there, while others think differently. Budget? I'd not called it budget, because it hold up very well after that 14 years of use. Heavy? Compared to the typical backpack weight, it's only 1.5-2 lbs heavier due to the excellent padding - depending on an individual's level of fitness, it didn't feel heavy at all. I do owned some $200-$300 bags, but I've always ended up going back to this Wenger for my trips. BTW, I do like that Pioneer bag, but it lacks 2 must-have features that I need in a backpack.