The moral: if you know nothing but how to hurt and destroy, you'll end up hurting or destroying yourself, along with anyone who trusts you. The others are right: Kratos IS hiding lessons from his past in these little stories.
One person pointed out something that I already suspected. This story seems to relate to Kratos and Aries from what I can see. As you mentioned, those who hurt and destroy everything around them will end up destroying everything that they love including themselves. Revenge is much the same way, it consumes all things including the one who desired it and even if it is overcome, it leaves scars that never go away. As for my opinion, Kratos knew what kind of deity he was appealing to when he asked to be saved and he did so knowing that Aries would not condemn his bloodshed or his cruelty. He forgot that war makes no distinction between those who are on the battlefield and those who are not. There are no innocents in the eyes of war, only collateral damage, no civilian casualties, only sacrifices, no underserved deaths, to war all beings deserve death equally. That is why now accepts his role in his families death, Aries might have pulled the wool over his eyes but Kratos was the one who trusted him in the first place.
@@francisbacon4363 I suppose that is true. He ended up killing his wife, daughter, and all of Sparta and that is without counting the gods and those who died either getting in his way or as a result of something else. His first wife even pointed out that he was committing butchery for his own sake not for Sparta. Still it seems that up until he appeared to kill her and her daughter she still believed that Kratos would protect them. The Spartans thought that their god of war would protect them and in the end he flooded the world destroying them for the sake of his vengeance. Ares certainly encouraged Kratos to slaughter, he put his wife and daughter in harm's way, but Kratos clearly had a brutal nature and love of battle which drew Ares to him in the first place. I think that there is a lot of wisdom in him speaking these stories to Atreus especially since a lot of them can be traced back to his life experiences. I am assuming that sooner or later he will have to tell his son the full story of his life. I do like how he is trying to be a better person now.
In one of the original incarnations of the story when the Frog asks the scorpion why he would do that and now they would both certainly die, the Scorpion replies "I never said that I couldn't swim". Making the story even darker because evil essentially wins.
@@bezustanneteraz6898 than it should’ve stung at the beginning rather than give false promises and kill in cold blood like a bipolar person swearing not to punch a person.
fun fact scorpions can hold their breath up to 3 days. he probably lived to sting more people in the back. because people with that nature always seem to stick around
I believe he is refering about his "deal" with Zeus, when he offered Kratos The Blade of Olympus. Kratos trusted Zeus and then Zeus "sting" him, because it is the nature of the gods, and then both end up falling in disgrace.
Remember, it's the scorpions "nature" that makes him kill and makes him incapable of sparing the frogs life... The lesson is: you either embrace or deny your nature, denying it will always yield bad results and consequences. Embracing it makes you more understanding and capable of good odds. (The scorpion should've realized his own nature and that he would've killed the frog. Not make promises that it won't happen.)
Kratos is the Scorpion and Gaia is the frog. Kratos rides her up Mount Olympus and then kills her halfway up, because it's in his nature. They both fall down the mountain and 'die'. Kratos lands in hell and has to fight his way out again. All of these stories are about Kratos one way or another.
I think Kratos was talking about Gaia here. Remember he road on her back up to Mount Olympus, and halfway there she betrayed him and fell. But then he comes back and makes her fall too. I caught that
Atreus will be telling the same story to Odin in the far future while they are trying to sniff out an Anglo-Saxon nobleman from a lumber mill. Only a true nerd will understand this.
"lol" said the scorpion, "lmao"
"Why did you sting me? Now we will both surely drown!"
"Lol" said the scorpion "lmao"
the first ever reported troll
Scorpion: For the memes.
"If you continue to interrupt, I will end the story."
-Every dad ever
"We do a little trolling"
-scorpion
"Do you trust a promise of an olympian?"
Atlas, God of War: Chain of Olympus
IT IS ALL I HAVE ATLAS
Another Aesop Fable. Amazing that they stick to Kratos' character being greek.
Not an Aesop Fable actually.
“Lol” said Kratos, “Lmao”
The moral: if you know nothing but how to hurt and destroy, you'll end up hurting or destroying yourself, along with anyone who trusts you. The others are right: Kratos IS hiding lessons from his past in these little stories.
One person pointed out something that I already suspected. This story seems to relate to Kratos and Aries from what I can see. As you mentioned, those who hurt and destroy everything around them will end up destroying everything that they love including themselves. Revenge is much the same way, it consumes all things including the one who desired it and even if it is overcome, it leaves scars that never go away. As for my opinion, Kratos knew what kind of deity he was appealing to when he asked to be saved and he did so knowing that Aries would not condemn his bloodshed or his cruelty. He forgot that war makes no distinction between those who are on the battlefield and those who are not. There are no innocents in the eyes of war, only collateral damage, no civilian casualties, only sacrifices, no underserved deaths, to war all beings deserve death equally. That is why now accepts his role in his families death, Aries might have pulled the wool over his eyes but Kratos was the one who trusted him in the first place.
@@lordofcreativity9637 they were both the scorpions although ares was a bigger scorpion, physically and metaphorically
@@francisbacon4363 I suppose that is true. He ended up killing his wife, daughter, and all of Sparta and that is without counting the gods and those who died either getting in his way or as a result of something else. His first wife even pointed out that he was committing butchery for his own sake not for Sparta. Still it seems that up until he appeared to kill her and her daughter she still believed that Kratos would protect them. The Spartans thought that their god of war would protect them and in the end he flooded the world destroying them for the sake of his vengeance. Ares certainly encouraged Kratos to slaughter, he put his wife and daughter in harm's way, but Kratos clearly had a brutal nature and love of battle which drew Ares to him in the first place. I think that there is a lot of wisdom in him speaking these stories to Atreus especially since a lot of them can be traced back to his life experiences. I am assuming that sooner or later he will have to tell his son the full story of his life. I do like how he is trying to be a better person now.
seems like Thor who loves killing anything, straight go fight without thinking
Kratos: Your mother always spoke the truth.
Atreus: Mom said that you were a bad lover.
Kratos: The hell she did!
Quit with that sass boi
he'd go to hel and blow it to dust in the process of finding fey and making her apologize
why in the hell would you tell your kid son something like that
@@francisbacon4363 the light/lake of souls to be exact 😅
“ILL SHOW YOU BOY, SHOW ME YOUR BUTTHOLE”
“It is the nature of a thing that matters, not its form.”
In one of the original incarnations of the story when the Frog asks the scorpion why he would do that and now they would both certainly die, the Scorpion replies "I never said that I couldn't swim". Making the story even darker because evil essentially wins.
The whole point is, it is not evil who wins here. Scorpion is not evil, it's a scorpion. It is his nature to harm.
@@bezustanneteraz6898 than it should’ve stung at the beginning rather than give false promises and kill in cold blood like a bipolar person swearing not to punch a person.
@@Channel-23s I think the point is he just stung him, no plan behind. No bipolarity or anything just a sting.
That's my interpretation.
Yeah that's the one I grew up with
@@Channel-23s
I think the Scorpion believed what it said to the Frog, the sting was unplanned impulse
fun fact
scorpions can hold their breath up to 3 days. he probably lived to sting more people in the back. because people with that nature always seem to stick around
I believe he is refering about his "deal" with Zeus, when he offered Kratos The Blade of Olympus. Kratos trusted Zeus and then Zeus "sting" him, because it is the nature of the gods, and then both end up falling in disgrace.
1:00 When Kratos is emotional, men begin to cry.
Remember, it's the scorpions "nature" that makes him kill and makes him incapable of sparing the frogs life...
The lesson is: you either embrace or deny your nature, denying it will always yield bad results and consequences. Embracing it makes you more understanding and capable of good odds.
(The scorpion should've realized his own nature and that he would've killed the frog. Not make promises that it won't happen.)
"You stupid old man. I'm a snake."
I'm surprised nobody has heard this story in tmnt fast forward when Leonardo told it to that mutant of leonardo.. cool times
Kratos is the Scorpion and Gaia is the frog. Kratos rides her up Mount Olympus and then kills her halfway up, because it's in his nature. They both fall down the mountain and 'die'. Kratos lands in hell and has to fight his way out again. All of these stories are about Kratos one way or another.
Gaia is the scorpion and Kratos is the Frog. Here the sting refers to the betrayal.
You swapped Gaia and Kratos
Lesson: Do not assume self-preservation goes over impulse stupidity. Other regretting their action isn't going to help you.
I came with questions, and left with them not only unanswered, but accompanied by even more questions.
Thumbs up because this story was also told in Episode 10 of Megalo Box
Literally got finished watching that episode just now
Tyrian Callows from RWBY alludes to this fable. It’s nice to see fables regaining popularity.
0:13 I laughed my ass off
I think Kratos was talking about Gaia here. Remember he road on her back up to Mount Olympus, and halfway there she betrayed him and fell. But then he comes back and makes her fall too. I caught that
I heard this story in robot chicken lmao
BJ Chaos it's in my nature
That is one stupid scorpion.
It's still a scorpion, they still sting
I would say that was one stupid frog.
2003 TMNT S6 E23
Leonardo told this story 1st. S/O Kevin B. Eastman
Now I know why he married Faye of all 😂
i see Kratos has met or heard of Æsop
Atreus will be telling the same story to Odin in the far future while they are trying to sniff out an Anglo-Saxon nobleman from a lumber mill.
Only a true nerd will understand this.
the 2 dislikes came from the scorpion and the frog
The frog and the scorpion
Icarus and kratos
I'm here cause i remembered this when this exact story came up in umbrella Academy season 2
Me too
Drive with Ryan gosling
Cody Rhodes really stole this story and used it in a promo 😂
Scorpion is a narcissist and frog is a codependent.
Is this a reference from God of war 2 where Zeus stabs kratos .
Sad that this true even in real life. That some people just cannot help their nature, even if it hurts them.