Rally Stage Notes and Pace Notes Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 15 май 2017
  • An introduction to stage notes, the shorthand language that you would need to learn and use to compete in American rally racing events. Stage notes are computer generated, whereas pace notes (more common internationally) are made personally by each team.
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Комментарии • 708

  • @Teamoneilrally
    @Teamoneilrally  6 лет назад +249

    Hi and thanks for tuning in! Our RUclips channel was recently switched to a brand account from a personal one and some past comments were lost as a result. Please ask any questions you have and we’ll get to them as quickly as possible, thanks again for watching and please don’t forget to hit like, subscribe, and enjoy!

    • @dominicwadkins8639
      @dominicwadkins8639 5 лет назад +1

      Is there a place where I can get an old note book that was used for any race just to have a book to study and get a format for making my own. Thanks for the video.

    • @stupidrainbo
      @stupidrainbo 4 года назад

      @@martzy7536 WTF you telling him what to do and break the law?

    • @chagorith
      @chagorith 4 года назад

      welp, now I know what those mean in Colin McRae Rally

    • @chagorith
      @chagorith 4 года назад

      also, thinking about it R4 into L1 or vice versa, would be a TERRIBLE combination for a track

    • @boringpolitician
      @boringpolitician 3 года назад

      What does "maybe" mean in the notes? "straight 100 in to left 4 maybe"?

  • @rowland0thekurgan769
    @rowland0thekurgan769 7 лет назад +2412

    I can feel my dirt rally skills increasing :D

  • @rouuuk
    @rouuuk 5 лет назад +1674

    Dirt rally should include this tutorial

    • @Foxhound94
      @Foxhound94 5 лет назад +126

      All rally games should have this, bought WRC7 and was confused about my co-driver screaming at me with numbers. Now I know what he's taking about..kinda.. Still learning.

    • @drverano1918
      @drverano1918 4 года назад +35

      same with Dirt Rallye 2.0 its was so confusing...

    • @ryanpaps3781
      @ryanpaps3781 4 года назад +9

      They teach you in dirt 4 but not very well

    • @PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23
      @PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23 4 года назад +19

      Lol they should literally put a link straight to this video

    • @PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23
      @PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23 4 года назад +20

      What I recommend for everyone learning is that you disable the codriver calls, go around a track (preferably a short one, think El Rodeo, Argentina [DiRT Rally 2.0]) and try to note your own notes and then compare it to the game calls, you will become a lot more aware of how the game interprets turns, this helped me achieve my first WR

  • @xing0318
    @xing0318 7 лет назад +1165

    TRIPLE CAUTION SAMI, TRIPLE CAUTION!!!

    • @JohannesKonow
      @JohannesKonow 6 лет назад +43

      So Random you mean Samir? ;)
      "you're breaking the car Samir, you need to listen to me"

    • @staibybaby7289
      @staibybaby7289 5 лет назад +4

      That’s all I could hear in my mind when he brought up the cautions.

    • @daivikj7051
      @daivikj7051 5 лет назад +21

      Shut up, don't tell me how to drive

    • @lazarmilenkovic6772
      @lazarmilenkovic6772 5 лет назад +6

      Samir is actually good driver.He won several rally championships in Asia,but that rally was first since he had huge crash.So one guy from India wanted to make fun on him so he made that video.I will drop link from some news about this

    • @woodyy2125
      @woodyy2125 4 года назад

      STAY CENTER. STAY CENTER

  • @3dy97
    @3dy97 5 лет назад +1735

    *SAMIR, YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR*

  • @MediHusky
    @MediHusky 2 года назад +195

    According to Colin McRae, you're supposed to cut every corner especially the "don't cut" corners. According to Nicky Grist, that's the easiest way to roll your car. Either way you should still finish the stage.

    • @liamholcroft7212
      @liamholcroft7212 2 года назад +17

      If in doubt, flat out!

    • @NathanMcCabe88
      @NathanMcCabe88 Год назад

      Great comment!! 👍

    • @agustin8160
      @agustin8160 11 месяцев назад

      if in doubt, do a barrel roll

    • @MediHusky
      @MediHusky 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@agustin8160 Just land wheels down 👌

  • @salado1944
    @salado1944 4 года назад +107

    Gotta love how dirt rally and DR 2.0 made me have to learn things that an actual rally driver should know to actually play the game

  • @tntfreddan3138
    @tntfreddan3138 5 лет назад +158

    R3 into L2 ! over cr into L2 onto R3 ! cr into L3 into R2 ! for cr 200 ! onto R4 onto L3 ! cr into L2.
    The first 600 meters down our road at home.
    I live beside an old, discontinued rally stage from "The Rally to the Midnight Sun". It was one of the summer stages. It's around 7km through the forest with both trees, jumps, cliffs that you can fall off of, fields, asphalt, gravel, sick straights, crests and a lot of dangerous corners.

  • @heredownunder
    @heredownunder 5 лет назад +250

    I always liked “Jump Maybe”, because it sounds like Jump Baby!

    • @smac919
      @smac919 4 года назад +10

      " I don't like jumps, baby. " - Walter Rohrl

    • @aldenzhao7046
      @aldenzhao7046 3 года назад +2

      You jump, I jump.

  • @TairnKA
    @TairnKA 7 лет назад +136

    That's the clearest explanation I've heard about pace notes, Thank-you.
    There's two things I feel are important, "Consistency" and "Trust". The driver and co-driver must understand every term that's used.
    The driver must trust (without question, unless upside down in a tree) what the co-driver is telling him/her and co-driver trust that the driver will follow the notes (assuming the notes are written correctly). ;-)

  • @Dontgowide
    @Dontgowide 7 лет назад +65

    Thanks for mentioning us at 20:56 ;)

  • @Weeble_Warbles
    @Weeble_Warbles 5 лет назад +34

    I knew nothing about rally racing until I found this channel. You're an excellent mentor.

  • @laurenbina4188
    @laurenbina4188 6 лет назад +59

    Pace notes sounded like overwhelming jargon before this video. THANK YOU for taking the time to explain the basics and how someone could customize their notes. 👍👍👍

  • @AmirFaridGani
    @AmirFaridGani 5 лет назад +65

    this explanation makes me love the art of rallying

  • @TorAndreBrresen
    @TorAndreBrresen 7 лет назад +184

    Having the number before the direction makes most sense, more important to get the number out first because usually you can see the direction. I struggle with that in Dirt Rally 1

    • @hashrulsubzero
      @hashrulsubzero 7 лет назад +25

      I think having the number come out first before the direction works for you because you're comfortable with it. For me, I also like to have the number come out first before the direction on my pacenotes but I can also use the directions come out first before the number as they both are the same thing (especially when I'm playing DiRT Rally). It's what works for you is all that matters :)
      I do hope if Codemasters or some other video game developers creates a rally game that you can make your own pacenotes. From simple to complex pacenotes and from degree to a simple 1-6 or 6-1 pacenotes. If someone did, I would play that game :)

    • @iPtrck
      @iPtrck 6 лет назад +3

      In dirt rally there's an option

    • @trykozmaksym
      @trykozmaksym 6 лет назад

      yeah, own pacenotes would be great. I think it's for PS they have co-driver mode

    • @edmundfung
      @edmundfung 5 лет назад +6

      I wouldn’t like that for blind corners at all...

    • @RedJLP
      @RedJLP 5 лет назад +2

      @@edmundfung Then maybe add a note of !Blind

  • @SheetFiber
    @SheetFiber 7 лет назад +115

    thanks, my Dirt Rally skill increased.

  • @oponamikwe5011
    @oponamikwe5011 2 месяца назад +2

    Bro, just learnt a new language. Im proud of myself. Great concise and clear instructions. You know your stuff brew. Tanx

  • @wiz601
    @wiz601 3 года назад +10

    Thank you!
    I'm a big Rally fan and drive my SIM regularly. I have always been impressed by the skills, focus and stamina demanded of Rally drivers, but I am also very impressed by the amount of concentration required of the co-pilots, which I feel have been underrated for far too long.
    I have learned to follow instinctively, verbatim, what my co-piilot dictates, but honestly never understood how they can do it for so long, especially on complex routes and not blow a gasket. Co-pilots deserve more praise.
    Thank you for this very well presented explanation.

  • @metaomicron72
    @metaomicron72 7 лет назад +370

    *"Quick short video"* (I check the time...30 min)

    • @RedJLP
      @RedJLP 4 года назад +28

      In comparison to actual lessons, he may have a point.

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 4 года назад +18

      The age of the universe is about 14 billion years...
      30 minutes is unbelievably quick.

    • @AriIskanderKrohnBerle
      @AriIskanderKrohnBerle 4 года назад +2

      @@davecarsley8773 Haha! Love it...

    • @uketone
      @uketone 4 года назад

      Get on with it

    • @oaz8
      @oaz8 3 года назад

      its short dude for detailed lessons

  • @abhishekbanerjee9425
    @abhishekbanerjee9425 2 года назад +7

    Really loved the part at 20:45 where you explain the "robot" mode. So accurate

    • @GardenGuy1943
      @GardenGuy1943 Год назад

      It isn’t though, we are NOT robots…

  • @chriswinter5765
    @chriswinter5765 6 лет назад +30

    Not every day I sot through a 30 min RUclips video. GREAT stuff. Clear. Simple. Easy to understand. Are you OK with me using this as an example of good educational video?

  • @bikersoncall
    @bikersoncall 2 года назад +2

    I would never want to do any of this, but love
    watching WRC, and this guy explains things as
    if he genuinely wants you to learn it, and does it
    very well, way better than most.

  • @Zulfburht
    @Zulfburht 5 лет назад +531

    When you skipped the tutorial in Rallying games.

    • @livonianmapping3221
      @livonianmapping3221 4 года назад +56

      Rally games dont even have tutorials sadly

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 4 года назад +9

      @@livonianmapping3221 That's rediculous--of course they do. The latest one I bought (Dirt 4) has an entire rally driving school.

    • @tuningsnow
      @tuningsnow 4 года назад +2

      Last one that had rally school was RBR

    • @merlebump5328
      @merlebump5328 4 года назад +2

      @@davecarsley8773 I got Dirt 2.0 with my ps subscription. Are Dirt rally and Dirt 4 better?

    • @LJT9393
      @LJT9393 4 года назад +2

      Except the tutorials just show you how to drive the car and the objective of the game. They don’t teach you all this, but they should!

  • @davidremdog9184
    @davidremdog9184 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Team O'Neal for the excellent class on notes.

  • @TheAAron1830
    @TheAAron1830 3 года назад +4

    Really helpful for someone who wants to start rallying.... thank you Team O'Neil...

  • @neokoga
    @neokoga 4 года назад +8

    What a phenomenal breakdown for beginners. Well done.

  • @CenobiteBeldar
    @CenobiteBeldar 3 года назад

    The way pace notes are spoken is really cool.

  • @RallyDriva
    @RallyDriva 7 лет назад +7

    I always get excited at these new videos. Wyatt is so well versed and at home in front of a camera!

  • @SR-sr3fh
    @SR-sr3fh 2 года назад

    Can’t believe content like this is free

  • @Officeninja428
    @Officeninja428 2 года назад

    This is by far one of the best pace notes explanations that I’ve ever seen thanks so much!

  • @goncalomarques251
    @goncalomarques251 3 года назад +1

    Wyatt Knox, just found your video out of the blue and I must congratulate you for going for 30 min straight, non-stop delivering quality info.
    Thanks bro, highly appreciated!

  • @metaomicron72
    @metaomicron72 7 лет назад +6

    I need to share this a lot, such good information and very well explained! He does a great job and he is a great instructor as well!

  • @Snakepliskin76
    @Snakepliskin76 3 года назад +4

    This is really good! I'm considering getting into this with my son. Very clearly explained and super informative.

  • @ritzcracka411
    @ritzcracka411 5 лет назад

    The only clear explanation I have found on RUclips. Thank you.

  • @wingman8314
    @wingman8314 2 года назад

    This was actually a huge help. Like I have been driving blind till now. Thanks man!

  • @bobedwards8896
    @bobedwards8896 7 лет назад +1

    Fantastic Info, we need more Rally stuff!! Thanks for putting in the time making all these videos

  • @jakeritzman1720
    @jakeritzman1720 4 года назад +2

    I've always had a really casual appreciation for rallying on the level of "cars going down windy dirt courses is pretty cool", I just started getting into it more and wanted to understand the more technical side, it all makes sense after watching this. It really isn't as complicated as it seems (despite there sometimes being a lot of information like the R4+/lgsmcr into L3-

  • @thaizzz
    @thaizzz 2 года назад

    It's impressing how interesting and well-paced this explanation was... Really felt like I attended to a class and suddenly it ended without noticing

  • @ARPerez
    @ARPerez 3 года назад +1

    What a great video! I've always watched rally videos and have been completely lost on what the co-driver was saying. Now I'm paying attention!!! I still think the hardest challenge is understanding the co-driver over the radio system! However, you have a great way of explaining things! Much much appreciated!

  • @georgimonev3445
    @georgimonev3445 6 лет назад

    Awesome video!!! Continue with your videos guys, I can't stop watching them!

  • @lauramulrooney5476
    @lauramulrooney5476 6 лет назад

    This is wicked. Here in Ireland we usually say 3 Left or a 5 Right, the principal is the same. Fantastic to watch guys!

  • @phil73805
    @phil73805 2 года назад

    By far the best video on this topic I've come across, and I've watched quite a few. Thanks!

  • @surethebest
    @surethebest 5 лет назад +1

    That was just enlightening! Didn’t have clue before. Thank you, Wyatt

  • @evergreen8509
    @evergreen8509 4 года назад +1

    9:59 8...9...10..11...12 pieces of information........for two corners! good stuff

  • @darkkxzerox3422
    @darkkxzerox3422 4 года назад

    Give this man a raise!!! He always workin an popin up on the feed

  • @BeatByATaLi
    @BeatByATaLi 2 года назад

    I had a dencent understanding of pace notes before this video but I've been enlightened so much after watching this. I had a lot of issues and was frustrated at many of the pace notes in dirt rally to the point where I just drive hillclimbs and focus on the visual side to keep me going. I've never really tried this before BUT with this newfound confidence, I will actually try and make my own pace notes on gravel pikes peak and have a friend read them out and see how much time I can shed. Thank you for the valuable info. This video is amazing.

  • @pastydavie
    @pastydavie 3 года назад +1

    this is so awesome! such a simple yet depthy system depending on the battery of both drivers! thankyou for explaining it for beginners like me :)

  • @jethrylfritzalarde4689
    @jethrylfritzalarde4689 4 года назад

    Soo much learnings in just one video. Thanks!

  • @Cory_Springer
    @Cory_Springer 3 года назад

    Been watching a lot a rally vids, this video clears it up a lot. I was always thinking the numbers were the desired gear, but the copilots are hard to track if you don't know the lingo. Thanks for the descriptive video!

  • @hoseinhadi2050
    @hoseinhadi2050 Год назад

    This video was ACTUALLY really helpful. Thank you.

  • @hochiminrodriguez5908
    @hochiminrodriguez5908 3 года назад +1

    Bro this is so amazing like I actually love all this information 💪🏽

  • @boi1996
    @boi1996 7 лет назад +26

    been playing dirt rally 4
    so i came here to understand ehat the co-driver is saying 😀 so thank you very much :) :) :)

    • @jacksongatens2419
      @jacksongatens2419 5 лет назад +9

      Dirt rally 4, missed the other 3 Dirt Rally games?

    • @quarrena280c7
      @quarrena280c7 4 года назад +2

      Jackson Gatens obviously he means dirt 4 smart ass

    • @AzraelFPV
      @AzraelFPV 2 года назад

      @@jacksongatens2419 ahem, 2 games

  • @faysoufox
    @faysoufox 3 года назад

    I've started to play wrc9 on PC recently and didn't understand what the copilot was saying although I started to get it over time. Your video makes it much clearer. Thank you

  • @dokotadunn8138
    @dokotadunn8138 3 года назад

    I appreciate this video more than you could imagine.

  • @felipeferreira00
    @felipeferreira00 2 года назад

    Dude thanks, I started playing Colin McRae Rally 3 yesterday and now I know what every board in the game means, helping me A LOT

  • @vinaymanjunath8430
    @vinaymanjunath8430 4 года назад

    Beautifully explained, wow! Ur a super instructor

  • @marianpyter5948
    @marianpyter5948 Год назад

    you absolutely nailed it sir!!! great, informative video!! no fucking around, product palcements, subscription bullshit etc; just pure content and I love it!

  • @newtagwhodis4535
    @newtagwhodis4535 2 года назад

    This content is gold! Thank you so much!!!!

  • @5partan33
    @5partan33 7 лет назад +1

    Fantastic video! Thanks for the upload!

  • @hashrulsubzero
    @hashrulsubzero 7 лет назад +3

    Thank you for sharing this video. Nice and clear lecturing!
    0:56 - 1:37 As a Malaysian, I find it quite strange after I learned about the Jemba Inertia Notes System. Not many national rally use that system especially here in Malaysia where we write our own pacenotes during the recce.

  • @CarsandComments
    @CarsandComments 7 лет назад

    Can't wait to come up and drive in the 3 day rally class in July! Great channel guys!

  • @jvepps
    @jvepps 7 лет назад +24

    Great explanation. Very easy to understand.

  • @jamescampisi7716
    @jamescampisi7716 2 года назад +1

    Informative content! I had always wondered what these things meant.

  • @raptor747-8
    @raptor747-8 2 года назад

    Absolutely brilliant video, so practical. 👏 👏

  • @Rocky-xyz
    @Rocky-xyz 5 лет назад +1

    I love this thank you, I want to get into beater rally racing and this helps a lot, Cheers.

  • @taufiqutomo
    @taufiqutomo 4 года назад +3

    I still remembered actually writing pacenotes for my collegemate who played WRC 4 on PS2 during levels in which the game provided no navigator.

  • @rmarty550
    @rmarty550 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the great explanation, I’ve always wanted to know how they do this.

  • @arjentromp12
    @arjentromp12 5 лет назад

    its fun that watching your video's helps me out at playing dirt rally so much.
    very interesting stuff.

  • @IvelLeCog
    @IvelLeCog 4 года назад +1

    Very very fluid explanation

  • @iqbalnakhas
    @iqbalnakhas 6 лет назад +3

    That's really help for newbie like me, thank you 👍

  • @andreevemsmarquez9420
    @andreevemsmarquez9420 6 лет назад +9

    Wow! This is clearly explained! :D
    You've earned yourselves a sub ;)

  • @jericosha2842
    @jericosha2842 2 года назад

    Wow this was very well presented, thanks

  • @EaastonCams
    @EaastonCams 2 года назад

    I love intelligent humans, gives me hope, amazing video.

  • @ProntoBinotto
    @ProntoBinotto 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for explaining all of those information as simple as possible, also my Dirt Rally 2.0 skills are increased too

  • @jakubsetkowski
    @jakubsetkowski 2 года назад

    Thank you sir, that was best explanation I witnessed in my life, finally I can play dirt and make some progress.

  • @Wavecheckfoo
    @Wavecheckfoo 3 года назад +1

    Thank you guys! This video helped me understand rally notes so much!

  • @skyrockit8271
    @skyrockit8271 5 лет назад +1

    This is so helpful,, really well explained,, great video ~

  • @photographybyliamanderson1659
    @photographybyliamanderson1659 3 года назад

    this was so helpful for watching others..

  • @teagamer187
    @teagamer187 2 года назад

    It's very important to simplify pace notes . Got it 👍 .

  • @davecarsley8773
    @davecarsley8773 4 года назад

    Good info. Dude's a good teacher.

  • @michaelheenan580
    @michaelheenan580 7 лет назад

    another great informational video from team o Neil if it wasn't for ye I wouldn't know where to start in rally

  • @nickzaffino471
    @nickzaffino471 3 года назад

    awesome video, everything makes so much sense now

  • @jonmassey8124
    @jonmassey8124 2 года назад

    Very good tutorial 👍 also liked how you left all the 6 degrees of corner up so you can cross reference with all the stuff you were writing on the left.

  • @richharr
    @richharr 4 года назад +8

    Rally co driving is a good read too! Can you do a video on co-driving? How to get started, training, equipment etc? Its kind of a topic not as covered or coveted as driving but equally important.

  • @joelallonen5501
    @joelallonen5501 3 года назад

    This was the video I was looking for! I just got my rally sim set up and I'm off to my 1st VR rally experience :D

  • @kogagreg
    @kogagreg 2 года назад

    This is excellent. I’ve always wondered and now I know.
    Years ago I saw there was a co-driving school in England I think.
    I’m going to start using this as I navigate our 3rd world roads here in NYC.

  • @dilipkumar-ne4wk
    @dilipkumar-ne4wk 5 лет назад

    Neat and clearly put.. great effort...

  • @Curratum
    @Curratum 5 лет назад

    Oh, man, what a great video! Thank you!

  • @OrangeSunshine15
    @OrangeSunshine15 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for posting this video. I need this info to compete in dirt rally 2.0
    Thanks again.

  • @miatarf4676
    @miatarf4676 5 лет назад

    Dude I allready learned alot from your videos very very helpful

  • @the_spade32
    @the_spade32 5 лет назад +1

    I don't have anything to do with rally except playing a Colin McRae Rally like 15 years ago, but that was a very interesting and coherent video, thank you.

  • @TheXalos
    @TheXalos 7 лет назад +7

    he looks like Man of Steel... great video!

  • @evanoeab9118
    @evanoeab9118 2 года назад +2

    I remember the first time i watched this i was in like 7th or 8th grade and i made my own custom stage with pace notes on a piece of paper and i got my friend to be my "driver" as i read the notes out, just our desk, a pencil case steering wheel, water bottle shifter and my trusty notes...we had more fun than i thought we would LUL

  • @anthonywarwick5710
    @anthonywarwick5710 2 года назад

    These robo stage notes would be burned as heresy in Europe. :D Brilliant video and easily the most thorough presentation to the intricacies of the world's best motor sport.

  • @marcinsznn
    @marcinsznn 4 года назад +2

    This video is awesome. The pacenotes finally magically became a thing I can understand and it's not black magic! Really fantastic. Subscribed.

  • @toxicflicks1928
    @toxicflicks1928 4 года назад +1

    Wish learning in school was this easy

  • @clouds5
    @clouds5 3 года назад +1

    First thing I learned the hard way is listening to the word "tightens". If you don't listen, turns that start as a 4 and then tighten into a 2 or even 1 are guaranteed to throw you off the road :D

  • @albertpapikyants
    @albertpapikyants 5 лет назад

    Dude thanks so much! I understand now. It’ll just take time for my brain to get used to processing all of it.

  • @stuartthat30atgmail88
    @stuartthat30atgmail88 6 лет назад

    Always wondered
    This was great!!!! Thanks a lot!!! You rock

  • @rowlandseals5197
    @rowlandseals5197 3 года назад

    Wow thank you! I have learned so much.