It's as simple as this, whenever someone tells you faith without works is dead all you have to tell them is it's a good thing the Lord did all the work for me so I can have faith in him alone for salvation.
It is heart braking when you meet people who believe they have to do works to be saved or have to have works to show that they are saved. It tells you they do not read the Word of God but listen to someone who has twisted the word and teaches lies. If you do not study the Word you will not discern the truth. You will easily be lead astray like a sheep to the slaughter. Once you are saved you are always saved. Salvation is a gift through grace that is accepted by believing in Jesus Christ. No amount of works can buy your way into heaven. Only accepting the Grace of Jesus through believing in him can we be saved. He is the the way the life and the truth. No one comes to the Father but through the Grace of the Son. Jesus told us to have faith in him and believe him when he told us he paid the price for all our sins so we could be right with the Father.
I hate to burst your bubble, but there are many passages that warn us of being deceived by sin or falling away, that are very clear that such a person will not have inheritance in the kingdom of God. So yes, absolutely accept the gift of grace, but know that continuing in grace is pursuing holiness by the Spirit of God, and if a believer thinks that they don’t have to and will go to heaven anyways, they are blinded by the enemy.
It’s so easy and I never really thought much of it. The traditional Christian that has probably not even been born again says that they “believe in God“. They will say that they believe Christ died on the cross for us but they make no change in their heart. They continue to drink in excess, fornicate, slander, have a perverse mindset just to name a few. True faith has the works with it of a transformed heart. I get it because it finally happened to me. If somebody truly believes in their heart that Christ died for them, they will love Jesus and change at their core and the Holy Spirit will change who they are.
To be added we do goods for ourselves benefit to live longer because once you abused your existence perhaps the accident is near and death of the body Because I believe every work is flawed whether good or bad deeds.
@@JerseyShore2 I agree with James and everything written in the Bible. Do you? This will explain James 2. Romans 4:1 to 8 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Salvation is a free gift from God so it’s faith only nothing conditional about it. James 2 is about justification by men not before God.
Thats not the one.. Both faith with deeds are the keys Deeds means the applied act according to the commandment. Good deeds are told by the commandment
But what you do will prove who you are. If you murder, it means you are a murderer. If you rape, it means you are a rapist. If you lie, it means you are a liar. Jesus said you will be known by your fruit.
Good works is evidence of true faith not by our doing but by the grace of God, when the Spirit dwells in us we automatically want to do good things for people , so what James is saying is true faith produces good works, God bless all and peace be with you always
i randomly today saw this. I believe God is trying to tell me something. Yesterday my mom had a pain attack because she has "inoperable" cancer. I truly believe God can help out her situation. But recently i have not been so faithful, or unsinful. So i think he is truly trying to tell me to get my life right and He will give me what i desire. If he does truly do that, let all glory go to him.
I think works is not necessarily an action of doing something but an evidence of obedience rather. Which in inofitself is a kind of work. I'm almost certain this is what James meant when he said "works".
There's a third option you don't even mention. That dead faith (without works) is just useless/dead because it isn't converting others, that's why it's alone as the verse says. Faith alone is sufficient for salvation.
I'm LDS, and the second is what we believe. True faith leads to us wanting to do the work, or do good deeds, naturally. Thus true faith and faithful deeds go hand in hand. Yes, we know that without Christ's sacrifice and grace none could be saved due to God's law. We can do nothing to save ourselves but we do good to honor Christ our Savior and Redeemer.
That’s not what the Book of Mormon says: ”for we know that it is by by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” -2 Nephi 25:23 According to this, if you sin once then you have not done all you can do. Therefore it is impossible for anyone to achieve salvation this way. Romans 4 talks about Abraham becoming righteous and justified (saved) before works, not after them. Paul also speaks about the condemnation of those who were adding works to what Christ has done in Galatians 5. This passage from the Book of Mormon completely contradicts the bible: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
Tawnee Nielsen To add to what Oscar Hughes said, Alma, chapter 11 says in verse 37: Alma 11:37 37 And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? THEREFORE, YE CANNOT BE SAVED IN YOUR SINS. Since all of us are sinners, that means that according to the Mormon equivalent to the Bible, it's impossible for you to be saved in your sins. That means you have to be perfect before you die. Only Jesus was perfect but that's because he is the one, and only eternal God incarnate [ John 1:1, John 1:14 ] This is why the Book of Mormon, along with the other books, is known as the "Impossible Gospel". Joseph Smith was so busy churning out religious books for his new church that he wasn't able to proof read what he was saying. He basically said it's impossible, for anyone who believes what his books say, to be saved.
Look at what is expected of you to get into the temple, why can't you just tell your Bishop that you believe in and love God! You would think that loving Jesus would be enough!!
@@hollayevladimiroff131 Well you haven't read Isaiah Chapter 33 in verse 15 that tells of some of the qualifications you need to have in order to be able to even dwell with God. For God dwells in a place all full of fire and glory and light, because hes a resurrected being all full of light and glory that is more brighter than the noonday sun. So in order to dwell there in a place like that you need have a special resurrected body in order to even live in those kind of conditions. For no corruptible thing can dwell there with God in that place because the place is all full of fire and glory So immortal beings with bodies of flesh and bone can dwell in those kind of conditions with God in all his glory. But mortal bodies with flesh and blood cannot dwell in that heaven where God the Father lives.. As the scriptures also teach that God is a "consuming fire." So the place he lives in is also full of fire.
It's about passing by a homeless person who has a sign up that's in need of money and food and a well-to-do person and his colleague are walking together and won't even look at the homeless person to try and help them but yet proclaim that they know Christ this is what James chapter 2 is talking about and you're passing by that homeless person you're not showing the fullness of the love of God through Jesus Christ and then as you continue to walk you see a friend or another colleague and you stop and invites them to lunch that is an example of showing that you have respect of person's that is what Jesus is talking about in Matthews the 25th chapter When you passed by that homeless person and do not help them it could be an angel unaware 🙏 Amen!
Can a person have works without faith? Yes, as evidenced in Matthew 7:21-23. These “workers of iniquity” (as the Lord called them) performed “many wonderful WORKS” in Jesus' name, but they went about to establish their own righteousness, instead of submitting themselves to the righteousness of God, which is through faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:3-4; 2nd Corinthians 5:21; Philippians 3:9). Can a person have faith without works? Yes, as evidenced in John 12:42-43. The Scriptures say that “many of the chief rulers BELIEVED” (had faith) on the Lord Jesus Christ, but they “DID NOT CONFESS HIM.” They were afraid of persecution from the Pharisees. They had faith without works! Also, we see the repentant thief on the cross, who had no time to shew forth any works. And again we see in 1st Corinthians 3:15, at the Judgment Seat of Christ, that some men will barely “be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1st Corinthians 3:15, “If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” Clearly, this man was saved but HAD NO WORKS! So if works were necessary to validate faith for salvation, then this man could not have gone to Heaven. Yet, the Bible teaches that “HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED,” despite having NO WORKS whatsoever!!! So many Christians today are living shallow lives, choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of this life (Luke 8:14), who never bear any fruit (no souls saved) unto the Lord. God's desire for every believer is to mature so that they “BRING FORTH FRUIT” (Luke 8:15). Fruitless believers won't shine in Heaven (Daniel 12:3). It is every believer's duty to share the Gospel with the lost. God is our co-laborer (1st Corinthians 3:8-9). The Holy Spirit speaks to people's hearts, as our words speak to their minds. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to “THEM THAT BELIEVE” (Romans 1:16). Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
There are different levels of salvation in heaven in the resurrection of the dead, not just one grade as ALL will be judged according to their works and that will determine what level of light that they receive from God in the resurrection and that is why there are different levels of salvation.
@@germanslice Heaven is not the Titanic with a class structure of 1st class, 2nd class and 3rd class. Jesus said I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (john 14:3) Jesus will not just be in 1st class or 2nd but in all of Heaven with all those that didn't go to hell.
Faith + obedience = salvation Faith plus obedience to the gospel plan of salvation = salvation. Otherwise repentance is " works" because it is something we must choose to do after we believe.
I did not chance upon this video by chance, just last night (a few hours ago before I woke), I apologised to our Heavenly Father, saying the words, there's no amount of work I can do that can even amount up to anything significant compared to what Jesus Christ has done. I need to change the way I think and feel about our faith. Instead of trying too hard and always feeling not enough, just go about daily and answer the calls when He asks and live happily and joyfully through highs and lows.
Eternal salvation is the gift of God by GRACE THROUGH FAITH, NOT OF WORKS! lest any man should boast. Faith without works is dead means faith without Change of heart, without evidence thereof, without obedience. Meaning yes you can believe in God and disobey him, Tons of so called Christians do, but do they love him? If you love me you will keep my commandments. Dead faith is without works, meaning it takes no sacrifice, no work. True Genuine Faith has Sacrifice and evidence to Back it up. Someone dead in faith does not work to build their faith. Someone with Real faith works to build it. This is Faith With Works.
the works mentioned in James 2 is about showing other believers as evidence of your faith. It is not about works attached to faith in Jesus to receive salvation or any other blessing from Him.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 2 Corinthians 5:10 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Matthew 5:19-20 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
You cant be saved by a god who you do not love! Jesus taught to love him keep his commands, keeping his commands is not of our own doing but is done with the help of god by following gods commands
In Matthew 25 Jesus makes it clear that we need to do good works to receive eternal life. Only confused Christians misinterpret Paul’s letters and James’ letters so they can preach their false gospel.
The dead faith on James 2:17 is only the belief of having ONE GOD(Jam.2:19) That shallow faith is not enough to save anyone. Having that faith does not produce obedience to the LORD. We know that very well for it's the kind of faith that we had before we got the faith from hearing the gospel! It also means that it's not the kind of faith that we refer to when we say we are saved or forgiven. The faith that saved us(Rom.4:5) is the same faith which made Abraham righteous.(Rom.4:3) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by FAITH WITHOUT the deeds of the law.(Rom.3:28) Then when we were saved already, we began to have obedience to the LORD JESUS. Obedience which is the outward appearance of our belief,(Jam.2:18). Obedience that has nothing to do with our *SALVATION but ONLY the "fruit of righteousness"(Jam.3:18)
There is no true faith and false faith. There is just faith. A child of God is saved by faith (which comes by hearing the Word). This guarantees hid place in heaven one day. But to live an overcoming life here on earth, a Christian must put his faith into work (otherwise it will be like a car that is just idling, not being driven. That car is dead, since the purpose of the car is to move).
Stop having a debate on whether or not obedience is important to Jesus. It is. And I’m not a Mormon, for the record. We are saved by sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. (2 thes 2:12-14) Could anyone be sanctified by the Spirit without obeying? Thats a no. So if anyone is wondering why God isn’t making them holy, it’s not really all that mysterious. You’re not cooperating with Him. Yes, you’ve been washed when you believed. YES there is grace! But neither of those nullify obeying Christ, and obedience is still a determining factor in your FINAL destination. If you need some verses, don’t hesitate to ask. I’m here to help.
watch the video again -- it explains what you seem to have missed the first time through it. Romans 11:6 remind us if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work
Faith proved by its works examples??? Abraham, Mosses, Jeremiah, Job, Jacob, David, Rahab, Joseph, Daniel, Jephthah... Practically every person in the OT showed the faith God is asking for us to have now. They all walked by faith, not by sight. Any other faith is not faith at all.
Why selectively analyze a single passage of a whole chapter? What about 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
No actually works arent justified in gods eyes the point of the chapter is that your works are justified in mans eyes because your fellow man cares about works humans justify works and god justifies faith as far as your fellow man is concerned they dont care about your faith they only look at works
@@wlg2677 "Why selectively analyze a single passage of a whole chapter? Isn't that what you just did? When you interpret scripture you have to follow this simple rule: Every verse must be evaluated in light of the "totality" of Scripture. In other words, what does the rest of Scripture have to say about the subject. The overall consensus is that salvation is by faith alone. If you come to a different conclusion than that, then you don't have the proper context that allows you to interpret it correctly. The Mormon religion is one of many man-made religions that use proof-texts [ single verses out of context ], to create new theology. For example, "Ye are gods," means they can become gods. One verse out of context and a entirely new theology is born. Salavation is by the Grace of God and our faith and full trust in the works of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He did the works so we don't have to. All we have to do is love God with all our heart, mind, body and soul and lover others as we love ourselves. This alone fulfills all the commandments of the law. It's really all about TRUSTING FULLY IN JESUS ONLY AND LOVE. Romans 3:28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Romans 11:5-6 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Romans 5:15-16 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Revelation 21:6 And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. Revelation 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. Romans 3:24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
Works is not proof that you are saved. If you say this, you are saying we must do works to be saved which is the same as proving you’re saved by doing good works.
How can a person know whether or not another man is saved? Man judges from the outside. God looks on the heart and knows. Yet with man, man needs to witness evidence from outside.
@@jesusisgod2953 "How can a person know whether or not another man is saved? Man judges from the outside. God looks on the heart and knows. Yet with man, man needs to witness evidence from outside." Well, in the case of Mormons, they are following a false god, a false Jesus and a false gospel. Anyone of those is an abomination to God. The Bible tells us how to judge, like in Deuteronomy regarding false prophets and how to distinguish between a false prophet and a true prophet of God. We have to judge in order to come to a conclusion.
This is false. The Bible says that good works aren’t the way to salvation but the result. So becasically “faith without deeds is dead means you must have faith and trust in God and after that you repent and you are saved. The Bible is very clear that you don’t go to Heaven because of good works. That’s trying to bribe God. You must trust in Jesus and repent(more importantly trust in Jesus). Repentance is the “deeds” that are referred to in the topic of this whole video. Hopefully I explained that okay. God bless everyone
I disagree with your interpretation of this particular chapter first of all it's not about what the Bible teaches the Bible is just a book Black ink written on white paper many people read the Bible but come up with the wrong interpretation it is the spirit of God the holy spirit that teaches not the book itself the Bible says that the holy spirit will teach you all things and bring you into the knowledge of the truth but when it comes down to the 2nd chapter of James talking about faith it's not talking about faith for as your salvation it's talking about faith for as having respect of persons the scriptures are saying when you see a wealthy person and a poor person and you sit the wealthy person in the finest area to sit down and then you don't worry about or have much concern about where the poor person sits that's showing that you are having respect of persons this ties in with what Jesus spoke of about in Matthew the 25th chapter. Matthew 25:42-46 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. That's why the Bible says it's more blessings to give than to receive.🙏 Amen !
If you believe and trust in only Christ for your salvation, and if you love God with all your heart, mind, soul and body, and if you love others as you love yourself, you will be saved. There are no works involved in salvation. They are the fruit of salvation. It's all about love. Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ] 34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” Loving someone is not works. The verse says, "Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” In other words, you cannot harm another person or do them wrong if you love them and if you love God, you love the things that God loves and you hate the things that God hates. No works involved in any of that.
The great protestant error is equating the Catholics salvation by works with obeying the plan of salvation in order to recieve salvation. As Peter said in Acts ch.3, " God gives the Holy Spirit to those who obey him".
I've never learned anything other than the grace central idea you're describing. You can try to guilt some people into thinking otherwise but I've never heard a true LDS say works is the center of faith. Rather we as Christians believe in the fruits of the spirit. So try as you must to slander the people, the reality is you've been taught a fallacy about us.
The Book of James is to the 12 tribes scattered abroad at this time we live and there is no difference between you and Gentile the Book of James is to the Jews going through the tribulation. Or for more of a doctrinal context the time of Jacob's trouble so stop applying this book for us today it's for our learning and knowledge and growth and understanding but it's not talking to us so stop perverting scripture out of its context and learn to rightly divide
James brother's were Isrealites not christians there were no christains then his brother by the flesh were isrealites the faith to do all Gods commandents and to follow them thats the works
Wow, justifying the ungodly by belief only? Ungodly means unloving towards God and unrepentant a person not even drawing near to God but completely unclean! Acts 10:34-35 NKJV Then Peter opened his mouth and said: "In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. [35] But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. Who was this Gentile man called by God? For God would certainly choose people among the gentiles to be called by his name! Acts 10:2 NKJV a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always. Acts 15:7-9 NKJV And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. [8] So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, [9] and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. God does purify the hearts of believers by faith but this faith starts with one who fears God and works righteousness towards others! Luke 7:44-50 NKJV Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. [45] You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. [46] You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. [47] Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little." [48] Then He said to her, "Your sins are forgiven." [49] And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, "Who is this who even forgives sins?" [50] Then He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you. Go in peace." This woman was showing her faith by her works, her faith has saved her! God knows the heart of all men and does save by faith but please be aware of the kind of faith that saves.
Guys it’s not that hard. We are saved by grace after all we can do. Our works alone of course will never be enough but we still have to try and do something. It’s like growing a crop. You have to put the seeds in the ground (works) and God provides the rain and sunshine (grace) for it to grow. You can not separate faith from works as James chapter 2 says. It is dead. Works automatically come with faith.
you wrote: _"Works automatically come with faith"_ which is true. They go together but it's because we are changed and desire to do works to further our love for Christ. But if works are required, I thought salvation is a free gift? Do you pay for free gifts? If a gift requires effort, it's not free and Jesus loved us enough to make salvation free as a gift. As we read in Ephesians 2:8-9 we are saved by our faith. It even says specifically NOT of works and not of ourselves. The video explains this in details if you actually watch the entire video. Perhaps watch it all the way again to grasp it. You are quoting from 2 Nephi 25:23 which contradicts the Bible and reveals why the b/m is not from the Holy Spirit.
Hi! We do NOT believe that works don't matter! What we believe is that we're fully justified by faith, and we respond to everything the Lord has done for us by being obedient to him! This video explains what we think about works: ruclips.net/video/smtuVkvF_qQ/видео.html Hope that helps!
Unlimited Perseverance "You must do works. You must follow His commandants. Otherwise His words are useless and he is unjust." Which works must you do to be saved? God gave the Israelites 613 mitzvot (laws/commandment). Do you keep all of them because if you fail at keeping just one, you are guilty of them all? [James 2:10] Do you know about the 'Two Greatest Commandments" that Christ gave the Pharisees? According to Jesus, our only commandments are to love God and to love others. Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ] 34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” Loving someone is not works. The verse says, "Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” In other words, you cannot harm another person or do them wrong if you love them and if you love God, you love the things that God loves and you hate the things that God hates. No works involved in any of that.
Yes, we must obey the commandments but we do it out of love of Jesus not because some man said we must obey these rules or we go to hell!, we want to make the Savior happy and please him to do good things!!
Believing without obedience is not true faith. God requires you to obey Him and to keep the commandments, as He gives grace to be able to to that, to those who seek it. What LDS have done is to add their secret temple rituals to the requirement to do works. They are wrong in that, but they are right to say that baptism is necessary. Most Protestants have really created confusion by their misinterpretation of Paul's teaching. Paul, like the other apostles, taught that we must keep the commandments of the moral law in order to secure eternal life. We are saved/rescued by Christ's atonement when we could not save ourselves, but, once saved, we must live in obedience to God in order to arrive at the intended goal of eternal salvation. The doctrine that, once saved, you don't have to obey the commandments, that heaven is guaranteed to you even if you repeatedly sin, is a false one. How you live now determines whether or not you arrive at the heavenly reward. To hear many Protestants talk, you can make a profession of faith then live as a habitual sinner and still get to reign with God in heaven. The LDS are attacked by them for affirming that you have to live in obedience in order to have the ultimate salvation, just as other Christians are attacked for not holding their antinomian theology. The LDS inherited something of the Methodist/Wesleyan/Holiness belief in entire sanctification and the possibility of perfection in this life, which has a strong Biblical basis, but which is hated by the dogmatists who hold Luther's view that you can never gain victory over sin in this life.
Romans 11 and many other places clearly refute your theology, the idea that God is against good works or requiring effort would tear down the spirit of civilization itself, it’s unsustainable and harmful to good character therefore your theology isn’t based in the truth of eternal principles. “22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.” The book of Revelation also states we will be judged by works, it isn’t something you are allowed to change or add meaning to.
First of all, yes, those are the most likely explanations for those verses(1. Justification comes from faith and works 2. Faith alone saves but true faith results in works). But your arguments in favor of the latter explanation are based on the false premise that James HAS to teach faith alone because other books of the bible teach it(according to you). Why wouldn't you apply the same logic regarding those other books? If James teachs that faith and works justify, then all those other books must be in accord to James, since they're part of the same infaliable word of God. Also, you ignored the verse that says "you're justified by works and not by faith alone" and instead chose to focus on the one that supposedly helps your argument("show me your faith without works and I'll show you my faith by my works.) If you're justified by works, then even if you had the true faith you wouldn't be justified without works. That's the literal meaning of this verse. It doesn't say that works are only important as to affirm the true faith, but that works apart from faith are a requirement for justification. You mentioned that James was writting to christians and that this must mean that those verses cannot talk about additional things for salvation. But that only works if you assume that "once saved, always saved" and "faith alone" before even beginning to interpret James. Finally, you didn't even attempt to explain the meaning of the opening parable. It is clear that even if you wished well to someone in need, that won't necessarily help their lives get better. God wants actual change in the world and hence charity is an essecial part of justification.
Yo mate, so are you saying that faith alone is not enough to justify you? Man im so confused right now the bible is so confusing, there are so many passages for once saved always saved, and so many passages sayinf that you have to work for your then faith to be real. Like i get it faith with no works is pointless. But doesnt that then mean it is faith+works. Then if you add things such as the foolish virgin parable and then the talents parable. These parables both end with a believer being cast out. I just dont understand. Then Jesus in the other hand says "all who come to me will be saved and will not perish" and that the son came to save. But then the son is then casting peoplr out he is apparently saving. Im so confused it doesnt make any sense whatsoever
@@billymooney133 it’s faith alone anything else is working to salvation we’ve heard it all said before that unless you are born again you will not enter the kingdom to be born again you believe you don’t first work. Faith apart from works saves but saving faith will lead you to work not that the work saves
@@ugochukwuifezulumba4136 wait you are doing a scriptural twisting here Jesus Christ Said "Except a man be born again, he CANNOT SEE the kingdom of God." (John 3:3) And yet you use the word "ENTER" Jesus Christ said "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT ENTER into the kingdom of God"
asgger patton "If you're justified by works, then even if you had the true faith you wouldn't be justified without works." Which works justify you? Jesus told us to love God and to love others as we love ourselves. Is that works? No. If you follow Christs commandments to love, there will be no sin in your life. It's not a lack of works that sends us to hell. It is SIN that sends us to hell. How can you sin if you love God with all your heart, mind, body and soul? Loving God in that manner means you love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. If you love everyone else as you love yourself, you cannot sin against them. Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ] 34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
You are lying when you say that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have works in order to be saved. We have works because Jesus Christ asked us to have works. The only way members of our church are saved is by the Atonement of Christ for our sins. Sorry you are so offended by our works. The first principle of the gospel is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. The second principle of the gospel is repentance. It takes work to repent. So what is the concerned Christian interpretation, we should not repent because it is a work?
in Revelations Chapters 2-3 you see the real Jesus Demmanding the work of Repentance in the Seven Churches in these Saints lives as not all of these saints had been diligent as they should've been in keeping his Father's Commandments and were slothful in keeping them and here the Lord Jesus is rebuking these saints for their spiritual laziness. Maybe these had been saints who had wrested with the teachings of Paul to try to excuse themselves from doing the spiritual work of repentance . Well the Lord tells these saints that he has other ideas. And threatens them saying, if you don't keep my Father's Commandments then you cannot be where me and my Father dwell. That's why we teach daily repentance in the Church.
We're a Christian ministry devoted to helping explain what the Bible teaches about various LDS doctrines (Not an LDS channel). The Bible teaches that there only ever has been and will be one Creator God!
@@Ryan_Zell Agreed - Mormons believe that there are a (potentially) infinite number of gods, and that we too can be exalted to godhood someday. But we're not Mormon, and therefore don't believe that to be true.
It's as simple as this, whenever someone tells you faith without works is dead all you have to tell them is it's a good thing the Lord did all the work for me so I can have faith in him alone for salvation.
its a good thing we are saved through faith and not of works, that takes pressure of me to do everything perfect and just trust God
@@DannyPacheco-j6f You can't!
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It is heart braking when you meet people who believe they have to do works to be saved or have to have works to show that they are saved. It tells you they do not read the Word of God but listen to someone who has twisted the word and teaches lies. If you do not study the Word you will not discern the truth. You will easily be lead astray like a sheep to the slaughter. Once you are saved you are always saved. Salvation is a gift through grace that is accepted by believing in Jesus Christ. No amount of works can buy your way into heaven. Only accepting the Grace of Jesus through believing in him can we be saved. He is the the way the life and the truth. No one comes to the Father but through the Grace of the Son. Jesus told us to have faith in him and believe him when he told us he paid the price for all our sins so we could be right with the Father.
Very true. I was caught in this lie for about a year before I was saved. I never felt right so I prayed for truth, and God was faithful to lead me.
I hate to burst your bubble, but there are many passages that warn us of being deceived by sin or falling away, that are very clear that such a person will not have inheritance in the kingdom of God.
So yes, absolutely accept the gift of grace, but know that continuing in grace is pursuing holiness by the Spirit of God, and if a believer thinks that they don’t have to and will go to heaven anyways, they are blinded by the enemy.
It’s so easy and I never really thought much of it. The traditional Christian that has probably not even been born again says that they “believe in God“. They will say that they believe Christ died on the cross for us but they make no change in their heart. They continue to drink in excess, fornicate, slander, have a perverse mindset just to name a few. True faith has the works with it of a transformed heart. I get it because it finally happened to me. If somebody truly believes in their heart that Christ died for them, they will love Jesus and change at their core and the Holy Spirit will change who they are.
Yes yes, we dont need to do goods works to be saved but instead we do good works because we are saved by lord jesus:)
To be added we do goods for ourselves benefit to live longer because once you abused your existence perhaps the accident is near and death of the body
Because I believe every work is flawed whether good or bad deeds.
@@JerseyShore2 I agree with James and everything written in the Bible. Do you? This will explain James 2.
Romans 4:1 to 8
What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Salvation is a free gift from God so it’s faith only nothing conditional about it. James 2 is about justification by men not before God.
@@JerseyShore2 It is by grace through faith that l have been saved
@@JerseyShore2 It is by grace through faith that l have been saved
Thats not the one..
Both faith with deeds are the keys
Deeds means the applied act according to the commandment.
Good deeds are told by the commandment
It's not about works, it's about Christ-likeness
"It's not about what you do, it's about who you are." -Paul Washer
But you do what your conscious dictate and conscious is us.
But what you do will prove who you are. If you murder, it means you are a murderer. If you rape, it means you are a rapist. If you lie, it means you are a liar.
Jesus said you will be known by your fruit.
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Jesus did say we would be known by our fruit. What Jesus didn't say is that we would be saved by our fruit.
Paul washer isn’t God. Faith without works is dead. Faith alone is not enough
@@rickdavis2235 yes he did.
Good works is evidence of true faith not by our doing but by the grace of God, when the Spirit dwells in us we automatically want to do good things for people , so what James is saying is true faith produces good works, God bless all and peace be with you always
i randomly today saw this. I believe God is trying to tell me something. Yesterday my mom had a pain attack because she has "inoperable" cancer. I truly believe God can help out her situation. But recently i have not been so faithful, or unsinful. So i think he is truly trying to tell me to get my life right and He will give me what i desire. If he does truly do that, let all glory go to him.
Amen and God bless
Thank you for the truth, so very important!!
I think works is not necessarily an action of doing something but an evidence of obedience rather. Which in inofitself is a kind of work. I'm almost certain this is what James meant when he said "works".
Excellent example! I will be using your video in the future, for sure.
There's a third option you don't even mention. That dead faith (without works) is just useless/dead because it isn't converting others, that's why it's alone as the verse says. Faith alone is sufficient for salvation.
I'm LDS, and the second is what we believe. True faith leads to us wanting to do the work, or do good deeds, naturally. Thus true faith and faithful deeds go hand in hand. Yes, we know that without Christ's sacrifice and grace none could be saved due to God's law. We can do nothing to save ourselves but we do good to honor Christ our Savior and Redeemer.
That’s not what the Book of Mormon says:
”for we know that it is by by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” -2 Nephi 25:23
According to this, if you sin once then you have not done all you can do. Therefore it is impossible for anyone to achieve salvation this way. Romans 4 talks about Abraham becoming righteous and justified (saved) before works, not after them.
Paul also speaks about the condemnation of those who were adding works to what Christ has done in Galatians 5.
This passage from the Book of Mormon completely contradicts the bible:
“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9
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To add to what Oscar Hughes said, Alma, chapter 11 says in verse 37:
Alma 11:37
37 And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? THEREFORE, YE CANNOT BE SAVED IN YOUR SINS.
Since all of us are sinners, that means that according to the Mormon equivalent to the Bible, it's impossible for you to be saved in your sins. That means you have to be perfect before you die. Only Jesus was perfect but that's because he is the one, and only eternal God incarnate [ John 1:1, John 1:14 ]
This is why the Book of Mormon, along with the other books, is known as the "Impossible Gospel". Joseph Smith was so busy churning out religious books for his new church that he wasn't able to proof read what he was saying. He basically said it's impossible, for anyone who believes what his books say, to be saved.
Look at what is expected of you to get into the temple, why can't you just tell your Bishop that you believe in and love God! You would think that loving Jesus would be enough!!
@@hollayevladimiroff131 Well you haven't read Isaiah Chapter 33 in verse 15 that tells of some of the qualifications you need to have in order to be able to even dwell with God. For God dwells in a place all full of fire and glory and light, because hes a resurrected being all full of light and glory that is more brighter than the noonday sun. So in order to dwell there in a place like that you need have a special resurrected body in order to even live in those kind of conditions.
For no corruptible thing can dwell there with God in that place because the place is all full of fire and glory
So immortal beings with bodies of flesh and bone can dwell in those kind of conditions with God in all his glory. But mortal bodies with flesh and blood cannot dwell in that heaven where God the Father lives..
As the scriptures also teach that God is a "consuming fire." So the place he lives in is also full of fire.
Thank You for thé video!!❤❤
It's about passing by a homeless person who has a sign up that's in need of money and food and a well-to-do person and his colleague are walking together and won't even look at the homeless person to try and help them but yet proclaim that they know Christ this is what James chapter 2 is talking about and you're passing by that homeless person you're not showing the fullness of the love of God through Jesus Christ and then as you continue to walk you see a friend or another colleague and you stop and invites them to lunch that is an example of showing that you have respect of person's that is what Jesus is talking about in Matthews the 25th chapter
When you passed by that homeless person and do not help them it could be an angel unaware 🙏 Amen!
I believe help my unbelief
Great explanation! God bless
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Really helpful, good stuff!
Can a person have works without faith? Yes, as evidenced in Matthew 7:21-23. These “workers of iniquity” (as the Lord called them) performed “many wonderful WORKS” in Jesus' name, but they went about to establish their own righteousness, instead of submitting themselves to the righteousness of God, which is through faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:3-4; 2nd Corinthians 5:21; Philippians 3:9).
Can a person have faith without works? Yes, as evidenced in John 12:42-43. The Scriptures say that “many of the chief rulers BELIEVED” (had faith) on the Lord Jesus Christ, but they “DID NOT CONFESS HIM.” They were afraid of persecution from the Pharisees. They had faith without works! Also, we see the repentant thief on the cross, who had no time to shew forth any works.
And again we see in 1st Corinthians 3:15, at the Judgment Seat of Christ, that some men will barely “be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1st Corinthians 3:15, “If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” Clearly, this man was saved but HAD NO WORKS! So if works were necessary to validate faith for salvation, then this man could not have gone to Heaven. Yet, the Bible teaches that “HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED,” despite having NO WORKS whatsoever!!! So many Christians today are living shallow lives, choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of this life (Luke 8:14), who never bear any fruit (no souls saved) unto the Lord. God's desire for every believer is to mature so that they “BRING FORTH FRUIT” (Luke 8:15). Fruitless believers won't shine in Heaven (Daniel 12:3). It is every believer's duty to share the Gospel with the lost. God is our co-laborer (1st Corinthians 3:8-9). The Holy Spirit speaks to people's hearts, as our words speak to their minds. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to “THEM THAT BELIEVE” (Romans 1:16).
Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”
There are different levels of salvation in heaven in the resurrection of the dead, not just one grade as ALL will be judged according to their works and that will determine what level of light that they receive from God in the resurrection and that is why there are different levels of salvation.
James was lying then?
I think works is not necessarily an action of doing something but an evidence of obedience rather. Which in inofitself is a kind of work.
@@germanslice ABSOLUTELY not true! Accept Jesus of the BIBLE and repent you sins is the ONLY way into heaven, otherwise it is hell.
@@germanslice Heaven is not the Titanic with a class structure of 1st class, 2nd class and 3rd class.
Jesus said I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (john 14:3)
Jesus will not just be in 1st class or 2nd but in all of Heaven with all those that didn't go to hell.
Faith + obedience = salvation
Faith plus obedience to the gospel plan of salvation = salvation. Otherwise repentance is " works" because it is something we must choose to do after we believe.
Wow,God bless u bro.i am totally confused by other preacher's teachings. Thanks
I did not chance upon this video by chance, just last night (a few hours ago before I woke), I apologised to our Heavenly Father, saying the words, there's no amount of work I can do that can even amount up to anything significant compared to what Jesus Christ has done. I need to change the way I think and feel about our faith. Instead of trying too hard and always feeling not enough, just go about daily and answer the calls when He asks and live happily and joyfully through highs and lows.
Eternal salvation is the gift of God by GRACE THROUGH FAITH, NOT OF WORKS! lest any man should boast.
Faith without works is dead means faith without Change of heart, without evidence thereof, without obedience.
Meaning yes you can believe in God and disobey him, Tons of so called Christians do, but do they love him? If you love me you will keep my commandments.
Dead faith is without works, meaning it takes no sacrifice, no work.
True Genuine Faith has Sacrifice and evidence to Back it up.
Someone dead in faith does not work to build their faith. Someone with Real faith works to build it.
This is Faith With Works.
If he does the will of my Father shall become my brother.
John 6:39-40
the works mentioned in James 2 is about showing other believers as evidence of your faith. It is not about works attached to faith in Jesus to receive salvation or any other blessing from Him.
The background music with the clicking is so distracting I could not watch this
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
2 Corinthians 5:10
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Matthew 5:19-20
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
You cant be saved by a god who you do not love! Jesus taught to love him keep his commands, keeping his commands is not of our own doing but is done with the help of god by following gods commands
In Matthew 25 Jesus makes it clear that we need to do good works to receive eternal life. Only confused Christians misinterpret Paul’s letters and James’ letters so they can preach their false gospel.
The dead faith on James 2:17 is only the belief of having ONE GOD(Jam.2:19)
That shallow faith is not enough to save anyone.
Having that faith does not produce obedience to the LORD.
We know that very well for it's the kind of faith that we had before we got the faith from hearing the gospel!
It also means that it's not the kind of faith that we refer to when we say we are saved or forgiven.
The faith that saved us(Rom.4:5) is the same faith which made Abraham righteous.(Rom.4:3)
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by FAITH WITHOUT the deeds of the law.(Rom.3:28)
Then when we were saved already, we began to have obedience to the LORD JESUS. Obedience which is the outward appearance of our belief,(Jam.2:18). Obedience that has nothing to do with our *SALVATION but ONLY the "fruit of righteousness"(Jam.3:18)
How and when is a person saved?
There is no true faith and false faith. There is just faith.
A child of God is saved by faith (which comes by hearing the Word). This guarantees hid place in heaven one day.
But to live an overcoming life here on earth, a Christian must put his faith into work (otherwise it will be like a car that is just idling, not being driven. That car is dead, since the purpose of the car is to move).
Stop having a debate on whether or not obedience is important to Jesus. It is. And I’m not a Mormon, for the record. We are saved by sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.
(2 thes 2:12-14)
Could anyone be sanctified by the Spirit without obeying? Thats a no. So if anyone is wondering why God isn’t making them holy, it’s not really all that mysterious. You’re not cooperating with Him. Yes, you’ve been washed when you believed. YES there is grace! But neither of those nullify obeying Christ, and obedience is still a determining factor in your FINAL destination. If you need some verses, don’t hesitate to ask. I’m here to help.
watch the video again -- it explains what you seem to have missed the first time through it.
Romans 11:6 remind us if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work
I bet the 19 thumbs down 👎🏽 are from Calvinists 😂
Faith proved by its works examples??? Abraham, Mosses, Jeremiah, Job, Jacob, David, Rahab, Joseph, Daniel, Jephthah... Practically every person in the OT showed the faith God is asking for us to have now. They all walked by faith, not by sight. Any other faith is not faith at all.
Why selectively analyze a single passage of a whole chapter?
What about
24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
No actually works arent justified in gods eyes the point of the chapter is that your works are justified in mans eyes because your fellow man cares about works humans justify works and god justifies faith as far as your fellow man is concerned they dont care about your faith they only look at works
@@manimal4136 Oh really? Were does it says man's eyes. Is there any inference what so ever about being justified in the eyes of men?
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"Why selectively analyze a single passage of a whole chapter?
Isn't that what you just did? When you interpret scripture you have to follow this simple rule: Every verse must be evaluated in light of the "totality" of Scripture.
In other words, what does the rest of Scripture have to say about the subject. The overall consensus is that salvation is by faith alone. If you come to a different conclusion than that, then you don't have the proper context that allows you to interpret it correctly. The Mormon religion is one of many man-made religions that use proof-texts [ single verses out of context ], to create new theology. For example, "Ye are gods," means they can become gods. One verse out of context and a entirely new theology is born.
Salavation is by the Grace of God and our faith and full trust in the works of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He did the works so we don't have to. All we have to do is love God with all our heart, mind, body and soul and lover others as we love ourselves. This alone fulfills all the commandments of the law. It's really all about TRUSTING FULLY IN JESUS ONLY AND LOVE.
Romans 3:28
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Romans 11:5-6
So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
Romans 5:15-16
But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Revelation 21:6
And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.
Revelation 22:17
The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
Romans 3:24
and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
John 1:12
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 4:1-5
What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
Works is not proof that you are saved. If you say this, you are saying we must do works to be saved which is the same as proving you’re saved by doing good works.
How can a person know whether or not another man is saved? Man judges from the outside. God looks on the heart and knows. Yet with man, man needs to witness evidence from outside.
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"How can a person know whether or not another man is saved? Man judges from the outside. God looks on the heart and knows. Yet with man, man needs to witness evidence from outside."
Well, in the case of Mormons, they are following a false god, a false Jesus and a false gospel. Anyone of those is an abomination to God. The Bible tells us how to judge, like in Deuteronomy regarding false prophets and how to distinguish between a false prophet and a true prophet of God. We have to judge in order to come to a conclusion.
This is false. The Bible says that good works aren’t the way to salvation but the result. So becasically “faith without deeds is dead means you must have faith and trust in God and after that you repent and you are saved. The Bible is very clear that you don’t go to Heaven because of good works. That’s trying to bribe God. You must trust in Jesus and repent(more importantly trust in Jesus). Repentance is the “deeds” that are referred to in the topic of this whole video. Hopefully I explained that okay. God bless everyone
I disagree with your interpretation of this particular chapter first of all it's not about what the Bible teaches the Bible is just a book Black ink written on white paper many people read the Bible but come up with the wrong interpretation it is the spirit of God the holy spirit that teaches not the book itself the Bible says that the holy spirit will teach you all things and bring you into the knowledge of the truth but when it comes down to the 2nd chapter of James talking about faith it's not talking about faith for as your salvation it's talking about faith for as having respect of persons the scriptures are saying when you see a wealthy person and a poor person and you sit the wealthy person in the finest area to sit down and then you don't worry about or have much concern about where the poor person sits that's showing that you are having respect of persons this ties in with what Jesus spoke of about in Matthew the 25th chapter.
Matthew 25:42-46
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
That's why the Bible says it's more blessings to give than to receive.🙏 Amen !
thank you so much im so blased
Amen
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD
MEANS YOUR
FAITH BY ITSELF
ISN'T WORTHY
ON ITS OWN MERIT
If you believe and trust in only Christ for your salvation, and if you love God with all your heart, mind, soul and body, and if you love others as you love yourself, you will be saved. There are no works involved in salvation. They are the fruit of salvation. It's all about love.
Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ]
34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
Loving someone is not works. The verse says, "Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” In other words, you cannot harm another person or do them wrong if you love them and if you love God, you love the things that God loves and you hate the things that God hates. No works involved in any of that.
BOOM.
The great protestant error is equating the Catholics salvation by works with obeying the plan of salvation in order to recieve salvation.
As Peter said in Acts ch.3, " God gives the Holy Spirit to those who obey him".
I've never learned anything other than the grace central idea you're describing. You can try to guilt some people into thinking otherwise but I've never heard a true LDS say works is the center of faith. Rather we as Christians believe in the fruits of the spirit. So try as you must to slander the people, the reality is you've been taught a fallacy about us.
The Book of James is to the 12 tribes scattered abroad at this time we live and there is no difference between you and Gentile the Book of James is to the Jews going through the tribulation. Or for more of a doctrinal context the time of Jacob's trouble so stop applying this book for us today it's for our learning and knowledge and growth and understanding but it's not talking to us so stop perverting scripture out of its context and learn to rightly divide
The book of James is written to the 12 tribes of Israel! Think about it.
James brother's were Isrealites not christians there were no christains then his brother by the flesh were isrealites the faith to do all Gods commandents and to follow them thats the works
Wow, justifying the ungodly by belief only? Ungodly means unloving towards God and unrepentant a person not even drawing near to God but completely unclean!
Acts 10:34-35 NKJV
Then Peter opened his mouth and said: "In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. [35] But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.
Who was this Gentile man called by God? For God would certainly choose people among the gentiles to be called by his name!
Acts 10:2 NKJV
a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always.
Acts 15:7-9 NKJV
And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. [8] So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, [9] and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
God does purify the hearts of believers by faith but this faith starts with one who fears God and works righteousness towards others!
Luke 7:44-50 NKJV
Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. [45] You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. [46] You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. [47] Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little." [48] Then He said to her, "Your sins are forgiven." [49] And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, "Who is this who even forgives sins?" [50] Then He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you. Go in peace."
This woman was showing her faith by her works, her faith has saved her! God knows the heart of all men and does save by faith but please be aware of the kind of faith that saves.
I find it amazing all the justifications people make for never having to repent again.
Guys it’s not that hard. We are saved by grace after all we can do. Our works alone of course will never be enough but we still have to try and do something. It’s like growing a crop. You have to put the seeds in the ground (works) and God provides the rain and sunshine (grace) for it to grow. You can not separate faith from works as James chapter 2 says. It is dead. Works automatically come with faith.
you wrote: _"Works automatically come with faith"_ which is true. They go together but it's because we are changed and desire to do works to further our love for Christ. But if works are required, I thought salvation is a free gift? Do you pay for free gifts?
If a gift requires effort, it's not free and Jesus loved us enough to make salvation free as a gift.
As we read in Ephesians 2:8-9 we are saved by our faith. It even says specifically NOT of works and not of ourselves. The video explains this in details if you actually watch the entire video. Perhaps watch it all the way again to grasp it.
You are quoting from 2 Nephi 25:23 which contradicts the Bible and reveals why the b/m is not from the Holy Spirit.
You must do works. You must follow His commandants. Otherwise His words are useless and he is unjust.
Hi!
We do NOT believe that works don't matter! What we believe is that we're fully justified by faith, and we respond to everything the Lord has done for us by being obedient to him!
This video explains what we think about works: ruclips.net/video/smtuVkvF_qQ/видео.html
Hope that helps!
Works don’t save u but when u have faith. Ur faith produces works.
Unlimited Perseverance
"You must do works. You must follow His commandants. Otherwise His words are useless and he is unjust."
Which works must you do to be saved? God gave the Israelites 613 mitzvot (laws/commandment). Do you keep all of them because if you fail at keeping just one, you are guilty of them all? [James 2:10]
Do you know about the 'Two Greatest Commandments" that Christ gave the Pharisees? According to Jesus, our only commandments are to love God and to love others.
Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ]
34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
Loving someone is not works. The verse says, "Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.” In other words, you cannot harm another person or do them wrong if you love them and if you love God, you love the things that God loves and you hate the things that God hates. No works involved in any of that.
Yes, we must obey the commandments but we do it out of love of Jesus not because some man said we must obey these rules or we go to hell!, we want to make the Savior happy and please him to do good things!!
Believing without obedience is not true faith. God requires you to obey Him and to keep the commandments, as He gives grace to be able to to that, to those who seek it. What LDS have done is to add their secret temple rituals to the requirement to do works. They are wrong in that, but they are right to say that baptism is necessary. Most Protestants have really created confusion by their misinterpretation of Paul's teaching. Paul, like the other apostles, taught that we must keep the commandments of the moral law in order to secure eternal life. We are saved/rescued by Christ's atonement when we could not save ourselves, but, once saved, we must live in obedience to God in order to arrive at the intended goal of eternal salvation. The doctrine that, once saved, you don't have to obey the commandments, that heaven is guaranteed to you even if you repeatedly sin, is a false one. How you live now determines whether or not you arrive at the heavenly reward. To hear many Protestants talk, you can make a profession of faith then live as a habitual sinner and still get to reign with God in heaven. The LDS are attacked by them for affirming that you have to live in obedience in order to have the ultimate salvation, just as other Christians are attacked for not holding their antinomian theology. The LDS inherited something of the Methodist/Wesleyan/Holiness belief in entire sanctification and the possibility of perfection in this life, which has a strong Biblical basis, but which is hated by the dogmatists who hold Luther's view that you can never gain victory over sin in this life.
Romans 11 and many other places clearly refute your theology, the idea that God is against good works or requiring effort would tear down the spirit of civilization itself, it’s unsustainable and harmful to good character therefore your theology isn’t based in the truth of eternal principles. “22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.” The book of Revelation also states we will be judged by works, it isn’t something you are allowed to change or add meaning to.
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First of all, yes, those are the most likely explanations for those verses(1. Justification comes from faith and works 2. Faith alone saves but true faith results in works).
But your arguments in favor of the latter explanation are based on the false premise that James HAS to teach faith alone because other books of the bible teach it(according to you). Why wouldn't you apply the same logic regarding those other books? If James teachs that faith and works justify, then all those other books must be in accord to James, since they're part of the same infaliable word of God.
Also, you ignored the verse that says "you're justified by works and not by faith alone" and instead chose to focus on the one that supposedly helps your argument("show me your faith without works and I'll show you my faith by my works.)
If you're justified by works, then even if you had the true faith you wouldn't be justified without works. That's the literal meaning of this verse. It doesn't say that works are only important as to affirm the true faith, but that works apart from faith are a requirement for justification.
You mentioned that James was writting to christians and that this must mean that those verses cannot talk about additional things for salvation. But that only works if you assume that "once saved, always saved" and "faith alone" before even beginning to interpret James.
Finally, you didn't even attempt to explain the meaning of the opening parable. It is clear that even if you wished well to someone in need, that won't necessarily help their lives get better. God wants actual change in the world and hence charity is an essecial part of justification.
Yo mate, so are you saying that faith alone is not enough to justify you? Man im so confused right now the bible is so confusing, there are so many passages for once saved always saved, and so many passages sayinf that you have to work for your then faith to be real. Like i get it faith with no works is pointless. But doesnt that then mean it is faith+works. Then if you add things such as the foolish virgin parable and then the talents parable. These parables both end with a believer being cast out. I just dont understand. Then Jesus in the other hand says "all who come to me will be saved and will not perish" and that the son came to save. But then the son is then casting peoplr out he is apparently saving. Im so confused it doesnt make any sense whatsoever
@@billymooney133 it’s faith alone anything else is working to salvation we’ve heard it all said before that unless you are born again you will not enter the kingdom to be born again you believe you don’t first work. Faith apart from works saves but saving faith will lead you to work not that the work saves
@@ugochukwuifezulumba4136 wait you are doing a scriptural twisting here
Jesus Christ Said "Except a man be born again, he CANNOT SEE the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)
And yet you use the word "ENTER"
Jesus Christ said "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT ENTER into the kingdom of God"
I agree to all that you have mentioned above. To make it simple to some, it is Faith that works, not Faith and works.
asgger patton
"If you're justified by works, then even if you had the true faith you wouldn't be justified without works."
Which works justify you? Jesus told us to love God and to love others as we love ourselves. Is that works? No. If you follow Christs commandments to love, there will be no sin in your life. It's not a lack of works that sends us to hell. It is SIN that sends us to hell. How can you sin if you love God with all your heart, mind, body and soul? Loving God in that manner means you love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. If you love everyone else as you love yourself, you cannot sin against them.
Matthew 22:34-40 [ NASB ]
34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him: 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
You are lying when you say that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have works in order to be saved. We have works because Jesus Christ asked us to have works. The only way members of our church are saved is by the Atonement of Christ for our sins. Sorry you are so offended by our works. The first principle of the gospel is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. The second principle of the gospel is repentance. It takes work to repent. So what is the concerned Christian interpretation, we should not repent because it is a work?
Moon Quakers..........
Is repentance a work
"Is repentance a work"
No.
in Revelations Chapters 2-3 you see the real Jesus Demmanding the work of Repentance in the Seven Churches in these Saints lives as not all of these saints had been diligent as they should've been in keeping his Father's Commandments and were slothful in keeping them and here the Lord Jesus is rebuking these saints for their spiritual laziness.
Maybe these had been saints who had wrested with the teachings of Paul to try to excuse themselves from doing the spiritual work of repentance . Well the Lord tells these saints that he has other ideas. And threatens them saying, if you don't keep my Father's Commandments then you cannot be where me
and my Father dwell.
That's why we teach daily repentance in the Church.
Which God loves Mormons? You have several of them. So which one?
We're a Christian ministry devoted to helping explain what the Bible teaches about various LDS doctrines (Not an LDS channel). The Bible teaches that there only ever has been and will be one Creator God!
@@GLM That's not what I've read that Mornons believe from former Mormans.
@@Ryan_Zell Agreed - Mormons believe that there are a (potentially) infinite number of gods, and that we too can be exalted to godhood someday. But we're not Mormon, and therefore don't believe that to be true.
@@GLM Yes, Mormonism does not believe correctly. Thanks for pointing to the truth in love.
@@Ryan_Zell Ah my brother, good to see you here.
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False preacher