Maddison HAS To Start For England | Spurs Special | Simon & Souness | Episode Seven
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- Join Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness each week in 'Simon & Souness'! This week, the pair discuss everything Tottenham.
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There are SO many legends of the game that were Spurs fans growing up, Tottenham were once a HUGE club, way bigger than many of the current 'big clubs' of this generation. Box Office Team.
Big teams don't go 60+years without winning a league I suppose delusion is all part of supporting spurs
@@spinofthewheel5345Arsenal are bigger than Spurs but to say Spurs aren't a big club is just biased and delusional. I don't support either team but I've never understood the hate Tottenham get from other fans. They've won more European trophies and league cups than Arsenal. Only thing that makes Arsenal bigger than Spurs is your superior league and fa cup record. You don't win 17 major trophies and play in a champions league final like arsenal have if you're a small club.
@@spinofthewheel5345during the 70's and parts of the 80's Spurs were a HUGE Club. Since then it has gone downhill and other teams have overtaken them, granted.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣funniest comment here . Wait are you serious the team thats known to be a roll over hahahha you havent won a thing in 50plus years bar a carling cup and 2 decent champs leauge runs bale v inter and then the wild ajax game ...... Big club tut
Nice stadium tho , well done in that regard
I don't think the "brief for Levy" was to go in there and win trophies at all, it was to keep Tottenham Hotspur afloat! He's done that incredibly, from where we were back then we've grown steadily over time to become not only 1 of the most financially stable clubs in the Premier League but a club with one of the newest, finest stadiums AND one of the newest, finest training grounds. They were both incredibly necessary and often doing either is enough to sink a club but Daniel has managed to get Tottenham to a place where they can do both and STILL GROW! Over time, because of Daniel's success in growing the club and because of Tottenham's past glory, it has become about winning trophies once again but I think it's a reductive conversation when talking about a Chairman. He can only help put the pieces in place to get us challenging, and he's absolutely done that. A Chairman cannot get you over the line though.
Maybe zoom out slightly on the individual shots, and the occasional dual camera wouldn’t go a miss when they are both speaking
Spurs did spend money in the post CL final season. Unfortunately it was wasted on Ndombele, Sessengon and Lo Celso.
And they were all brilliant at their previous clubs , which is a shame. Lo Celso has a bit of magic in that left foot
We spent that money thinking that we was genuine ucl contenders the season prior rather then be honest and admit that we fluked it incredibly and papered over the cracks. The squad needed to be replenished 2/3 seasons prior but it wasn’t. That £150m spent post ucl final jusy compiled our issues
I don’t think the squad needed to be replaced 2-3 years before the CL Final. What DID need to happen was that the squad was added to for the future. To provide quality depth and players that would be there to take the club forward.
You can’t say the team needed to be replaced three years before. That was the season we finished 3rd. We needed players we could trust to rotate in and keep the first team players fresh and we didn’t sign anyone for a few windows. So we ran the best players into the ground and no surprise fell away due to likely fatigue, injuries, and not enough quality coming in.
Yessir
I could listen to "Simon and Souness" all day. Both are highly entertaining with their direct views
I've always liked Souness, and have gradually warmed to Simon.
They are a great combo, highly entertaining.
Souness is very good. Level headed and no nonsense.
I miss him on sky sports on a Sunday .
He's a bitter, dreary irrelevance
5:39 they invested money the summer after the final. They bought the wrong players and sacked pochettino 5 months later. The champs league final was paper over the cracks as they were awful going into it
Simon has a real hatred for big sam calling himself big sam 🤣🤣🤣
Ta from Tampa, Gent's! LOVE these segments!
Good show lads. Souness is from the same neck of the woods as me, I live in the Southside of Edinburgh now like but aye lol a wee bit useless information there for you all 😂 great show though and as a staunch Rangers Supporter and Scotland obviously, I love Souness, total Legend. A Rangers and Scotland Legend and a Legend of the game, a great guy! 🏴 🇬🇧
No surrender lad ,up king billy
Even a better player at Liverpool. Legend there as well, as a player mind you.
I know these are busy men, but let’s get these longer please
Simon & Graeme = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts
Love this. Keep up the good work!
I started following Spurs in 78, Spurs were always a bigger club then.Whenever we played at Highbury we would have all the clock end and half the northbank.The other half would be hiding at home as usual.Admit it.Coys.
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Even your " God" greaves sad that arsenal were a bigger club even in the 60th. Of course...chapman. .alison etc...
Youre comment is typical of a millwall or westham supporter.. jog on.
Absolutely agree with Souness re Spurs post Champions League final. That was clearly the time to invest heavily and bring in world class players. I was so disappointed in the lack of progress, and wastes of money.
Spurs had the chance to win Trophies but Harry Kane did not turn up to big games, pooch messed up playing him straight back from injury in the CL Final.
Nothing to do with KANE, if you look at the stats spurs didn't create chances.
@@xXSuperman117Kane's played in 4 finals in his career and been poor in every one
@@xXSuperman117that’s true for the Champions League final. A lot of the ball , and created nothing.
@@sammybeck4855 One league cup final when he was 22 just breaking into a bang average Spurs team, one league cup final days after Mourinho is sacked from a shite team and one UCL final when he's barely fit to start and people suggested he shouldn't have been playing...
I would say maybe the England. v Italy final is the only one where maybe I was genuinely disappointing, but even then Southgate sets us up so negatively it doesn't really help him shine in big games.
@@jacklane3679the english always make the wrong decisions. Why on earth did the arsenal back five never played together for the national team? Why? Why ian wright was never picked when it mattered? Why? Etc...etc...clueless arogant no hopers. Whereas the germans😃😃 clever...like always.
I mean...lucky as they were....the never had to play the tough french teams...but....all the other teams....😃😃😃
When it comes to Daniel Levy, Spurs fans just don’t get it. The club is in an exponentially better position since he became chairman. He’s organically increased revenue through really clever investments and then put that added revenue towards the playing squad and top manager appointments. Five years from now they’ll be spending even more on players. You can’t ask for much more than that - especially when it’s not even his money to spend.
Great video. Word of advice for the sound editor, turn the bleep noise down when Simon swears. It's (BLEEEPING) loud and (BLEEPING) irritating!
I love this pod!!!
Great duo 😍
Crosby, Stills and Nash were brilliant.
This is a great show!
The best footie podcast around. Real football men that don’t say things purely for reactions (pitch side and club looking at you).
How dare Big Sam refer to himself to the nickname he’s had for 50 years.
It's odd, didn't know that. Nice to meet you my name is Big Sam. Cringe
I can say for certainty that Simon Jordan is a Tottenham fan, I was torn between Man united and Spurs for a long time but this video clears it up.
Quite funny and interesting chat
I’m a Tottenham fan. We are not a big club. We are not a top tier premier league club, we are in the second tier section, along with clubs like Villa, Everton and Newcastle and that’s no disrespect to those clubs I’ve just mentioned.
Villa, Spurs, Newcastle and Everton are all big clubs. Villa's the biggest out of all 4 followed by Spurs then Everton then Newcastle
@@sammybeck4855 Villa are not the biggest , Spurs are. Villa literally had 2 years in the 80s and they were mid table the year they won the European Cup. Then nothing else apart from pre WW2. Spurs are a bigger club than Villa unquestionably.. Especially if you consider infrastructure and the last few years we’ve been playing at the highest level
At what point does historic success that has zero impact on the current team stop making a team a big club?? Spurs are the biggest based on the level they can operate at in the transfer market + revenue wise, everton have a load of league titles but theyve never even played in the champions league in over 30 years of its existance, huddersfield have more titles than spurs are they in this conversation too?? 5 years ago everton were in the strongest space out of villa and newcastle but now undoubtebly the weakest. Biggest my dads bigger than your dad debate going
imagine after all these baron years spurs actually get it right because the scouting looks good the academy looks very good and now the squad is half decent event though kane and his goals have been spread. Like Graeme said it is changing the attitude and becoming winners not the jilted bridesmaid or second best.
Hey....they are what they are...were they good...they wpuld not care about the arsenal....whereas every sesson they play them ot's there cup final....joke of a so called big club🤣🤣
It would be interesting if Simon and Martin O'Neil did a podcast too
Graham is 100% correct. If England went after France from the get go. They would have won.
No
France at this time beeing are far too big for the small islanders😉😉😀
I love the way Graham with no malice lays out why he thinks Levy may well be a nice bloke but he’s not a good chairmen.
Simon : “yeah but profits 😍😍”
That moment absolutely underlines the difference between football men and business men.
Let's be clear, the term 'Spursy' is not about not winning trophies. It's about the club's uncanny ability to have things happen to it that don't seem to happen to others. For example, whole squad getting food poisoning on last day of the season when you trying to qualify for Champions League. It's about conceding a penalty in the first 60 seconds of a CL final. It's about finishing 4th, qualifying for CL and then having a team finishing 10th steal that place from you cos they were unlikely winners of the comp - only for that rule to then be changed the very next season. That's what Spursy really means but rival fans use it for their own purposes, albeit incorrectly.
I think it's more about playing well, being in control of a game, and then losing. I wouldn't refer to lasagna gate as Spursy.
@@PDoggUK it’s not about the specifics of the event, it’s the fact that it happened to us, rather than any other club. These things always happen to us. Being in control of a game and then losing is something that happens to lots of clubs, every week, what is Spursy about that?
Getting knocked out of Europe by a team whose manager was in prison.
@@bolya01 boom, another perfect example of being Spursy! 👏🏻
It's aboit not knowing zhat defencecis the most important if you don't have the money to really compete. From a gooner. We are sitting in tge same boat. We used to know it. Unfortunately with wenger we became spursy🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Unless something drastic happens , this seasons Glory road is done, sealed by Wolves loss. However the rebuild and character of this side is yet to be set , after the Emirates Stadium ,Anfield is the place where need to make a statement . With the VAR controversy , not of the clubs making adding spice to last season roller-coaster ride , if Tottenham are to become winners again , then no fear attacking football taking points there , will reset the benchmark. Ange may have to make changes this summer and unlike Poch , must be given some marquee players to help progress what is an exciting young core of promise , that with rotation and seasoning will become the Glory grabbers, as a fan I hope to see. CoYS!
"It's hard for a Scots man to say"
Not for Graham. He's been bigging up the England national team for at least 3 decades that I know of. He's an England fan.
Bellinghams best position is behind kane and is 1 of the best players in the world right now but lets play him out of position to accomodate a bloke thats spent more than Half of the last year injured
Maddison needs ange ball - you watched him get relegated with leicester. Look a bit bitty for England...
His position- his roaming - it's a hand in glove at spurs-
Harry wasn't complimentary to spurs - the lack of pressing - but maddison is brilliant at spurs because they need that closed triangle - wonky - but two more 8 types and maddison works great. Doesn't need to work back- gets the ball at set pieces and everybody runs away from him on the ball- in a team without the ball- or a team with numbers behind the half way line - ala england - he doesn't really make sense.😅😅 great player. Weird one of a kind zidane/pirlo with a tiny little dash of Gazza and becks
Can we have an hour next time if Graeme can handle Simon for an hour because I couldn’t 😂
Media. You'd think Spurs announced Ange coming in and said we will win the prem this year after 16 years of not winning.
Imho top 6 would of been a decent start from where he picked up the team.
Our main problem has been defensive coaches. That goes back to Poch.
Ange will make mistakes. He has buying Johnson and Werner not great. But hes bought VDV and Dragusin. Our main issue now is a world class beast in DM.
Levy will quite rightly want CL. That will add more money to buy sensibly in the summer. Give it time.
Love Souness.
Thanks for not being woke Talksport.
As a Spurs fan I would rather see exciting football and win trophies than be rich but you can’t have one without the other to an extent. The managers we’ve had are partly to blame for letting Levy buy the players and if they hadn’t like Ange hasn’t done it’s changed things.
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From a pure business standpoint. Levy has worked wonders to build the clubs revenue to the point were the richest in London and itll benefit us even more depending on hlw strict ffp. Becomes. However levys football legacy will be that of "what ifs". What if he backed harry redknapp in that january when we were 3rd. And he bough louis saha and ryan nelson. And we finished 4th but lost out on ucl. What if we built properly upon a squad with bale, modric, vdv etc. Or what if levy properly backed poch instead of resting on his laurels and letting the squad go stale. What if he properly backed the 2 win now managers he employed. Hes seemed to have found a good one with ange and how hes changed the system at the club but its taken too long
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@talksport. Why have you disabled the comments for the video about Kyle walker !!!!!!!!!! Frightened to hear men’s opinions ?
What is it you wanted to say little buddy?
@@hmq9052 when did I say I wanted to comment? Merely asking why they would disable comments on only one video and non of the others little buddy !
@@stephencooper9935 What men's opinions did you want to read?
@@hmq9052 a little slow this afternoon my friend? I’m asking why have they disabled the comments?
@@stephencooper9935 Because of misogynistic Andrew Tate fans I imagine. The sort, presumably, you're desperate to hear from.
Trophy's... 😂 We could not care less.. Just do what we doing all the time.
I forgot who won the last few trophy's already but I clearly know this club is loved. 😮
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England wont win a thing under Southgate, we need a manager who plays front foot football and attack teams, Southgate just doesnt know how to play that way!!!
I was about to say something entirely different, 'cos he went for it in the second half of the World Cup in 2018, too much, he left Henderson in midfield by himself, pushed the full backs up the pitch, which left Modric to run the game, and win it for Croatia. Ever since then he's been very conservtive, so afraid to lose that he doesn't set them up to win, except against the minnows.
England always think they will win every tournament and never do it so whats the diifference
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The word 'spursy' means being in a position to win something ie a trophy, and failing to do so, which spurs do on a regular basis. The champions league final and the prem title the year Leicester won being just two examples. Always the bridesmaid never the bride.
Everyone is so obsessed with Tottenham. We are not bottlers at all. We won 6 trophies in 50 years. So we are not or ever been main contender. In fact every year we finished top 4 we have over achieved. We are not a club set up to go all out for a League Cup or FA Cup our aims have been to move up the table since the days of mid table or lower under Sugar. Under Levy we are set up to maximise revenue, and we have done that. Fans however would love a successful day at Wembley like we did in 08
I don't understand it myself either, but I support a team that won 6 league titles in 20 years, but barely get mentioned 'cos we're not in the PL right now, and won't be for a few more years, hopefully. :)
I think the more you dig the more you need to give Levy credit.
Spurs never used joe lewis money unlike Chelsea and City to name just two.
Arsenal have had plenty of money to throw around.
That's utd, liverpool, chelsea, city and Arsenal. The big 5 that between them have won it all.
That leaves Spurs in the midst of teams like Leeds, Everton, Villa ect.
What have they won? Whats their standing now?
As a long term Spurs fan its impossible to say with certainty that this is our time. That said we now have a financial system that generates real money for the club. So we are arguably in the best position to threaten the big teams than before.
Didnt want Ange. His football is exciting and we attack which is what we want. Hes doing a great job.
Two things that bother me is certain signings and Anges use of Subs. Johnson and Werner really struggle. Theyre too soft. Thats where Spursy comes from. We always fail when we buy these lightweight players. Worse our academy has churned out 100s of feeble players Spurs seem to rate.
Hopefully that will change. Aussies do not generally like weak players.
Certainly Ange needs this season and next to sort thing out. Just no more weak players please. Give Santiago a shot. He looks better than Werner and Johnson.
Oh wow, that's a ringing endorsement, "now the top 4 are having problems, maybe we can sneak in and win something". Don't get overexcited, when the money men are in charge of a football club, the bottom line is the only thing that matters.
Without stones centre back is major concern. Will prevent england winning euros.
😂😂😂😂😂 are you joking. Stones is a stif useless brother😂
You can't blame a chairman for losing in a final
You can blame him for sacking a notorious cup winner a game week before the final..
Whens the Arsenal Special eh lads?
Who you leaving out to get Maddison in.. plus ( controversial , Foden not great for England , not disputing he’s a player ??)
Bellingham rice Maddison
Would leave out everyone
He always mentions these players who he thinks are world beaters when in fact were shite
Disabling comments on the Walker video is disgusting, they want that virtue signalling mugs opinion and nobody else, I’m glad ally spoke up on behalf of Men. Disgusting from @Talksport
Sorry people talking about levy got spurs to become the richest club in London . Did there owner not just admit to insider trading? .how much of there money is honest and real . I sorry that's like saying man city are the best run club . Ye with 115 charges
@Talksport need to let these two loose on some more serious and controversial topics..
If Daniel kept to business, where he is excellent, that would be good. Unfortunately he also makes footballing decisions. Here he is not qualified to do.
Spurs shpuld have spent money 2 years before the champions league final, the squad was falling apart before then
it shouldn't be spursy, it should be englandsy.
😂😂😂😂😂they pick spurs players.. you wonder...who missed the chancescin 1990...gascoigne, waddle...before that....the sloppy hoddle....😂😂😂😂
For a so called spurs special, they didn't talk about spurs all that much.
Yeah but do you want to watch football or a show like wrestling
Souman and Siness!!😂
Hardly a spurs special
the stuff about Belingham, literal insanity. ott
If ye call yerself Big Sam ye got issues.
Sugar was hopeless!
Spurs are massive that needs to be run like a football club and not primarily a business.
But never been as big or famous as Arsenal, there trophies say so.
Ha, that was a discussion about Jude Bellingham and Simon's business exploits, but ok.
simon increasingly reminds me of Brick Top. Perhaps it's the glasses.
Andy Johnson, hmmmm should i mention him again
Simon Jordan’s turning into David Brent
Gammons assemble!
Spursy
They are both wrong.
Spursy was invented By Spurs fans to describe ridiculously unfortunate situations that denied Spurs chances to win/gain something.
- Pedro Mendes Ghost goal.
- Lasagne and food poisoning on last game of season that prevented them qualifying for CL.
- Finishing 4th and qualifying for CL only for Chelsea to beat Bayern in the final and take the qualification spot.
- Conceding a penalty after 1 min in CL final.
Its about something that can only happen to Tottenham.
If it was just about not winning trophies then Newcastle, Villa, Everton would all be ahead of them as they have gone longer without a trophy
You don’t win trophies, that’s why the rest of us call you Spursy
@@SHEK110 Yes because other fans took it without realising its origin and to use as a stick to beat us with. But that is not what it originally means. Spurs have won plenty of trophies btw
@@EnglishForFootballI doubt you was alive when spurs last lifted a league title
@@spinofthewheel5345 And?
@@SHEK110 other than City & Liverpool who has done anything this decade ? Why are people obsessed with Spurs winning trophies. We won 6 in the last 50 years.
Don’t let spurs have a special it’s not fair 😢😢😢
Once Palmer breaks into that England team, he'll own a starting place until he retires.
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Try not to get carried away, he's achieved nothing yet, is still very young, and is playing in a poor team. Give him a few years, and if he's still doing well, then maybe he might deserve a transfer to a big club. :)
Souness gutted he isn't English.
No fan cares about a club running financially well, its all about the trophys, and spurs have f all
We have trophies. Go back to school.
@@peterlangbridge4628 so your happy with your last trophy being a league cup in 2008? Go on and celebrate your financially sound club peter
Simon is a bright bloke, but Graeme is just an ex-footballer and cant really adjust his opinion or understand things.
And then Jordan said Spacey was back…
The way Jordan calls Sourness…..’gray’ is quite possibly one of the most gut churningly cringy things I’ve ever heard
why lol
First yes yes i did it!! First comment!!!!!! Please like this comment i got here first! Screw spurs!
You are very silly!
Simon needs to get over this levy apologia 😂😂 a club without a title in 60 years and has no global name shouldn’t get a special!! Levy cares way more about finances than winning trophies
Leicester been more successful! its madness
No global name? Not sure you've got that right
@@hmq9052 Spurs have some 180m fans worldwide with 80m in Asia alone
Yes, no global name. over little. compared to man united, liverpool, arsenal, and chelsea, they have no reason for a global name. @@hmq9052 these clubs have won big trophies that have gained fans, spurs hasn't.
did they get them by winning often? like Liverpool or Man United? or because Son plays for them and he's the best Asian player right now? Or because they lost a CL final? Or top four for several years?@@peterm7548
Not winning trophies, count our honours.