The Story of Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - A Retrospective
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this in depth retrospective I tell the story of Jamie Lee Curtis' first return to the world of John Carpenter's "Halloween": 1998's "Halloween H20: 20 Years Later", seeing her face-off with her killer brother, Michael Myers, 20 years after his night of terror. I delve deep into its development, production and legacy while providing my own thoughts on the film. Starring: Jamie Lee Curtis, Josh Hartnett, Adam Arkin, Michelle Williams and Chris Durand. Written by Robert Zappia and Matt Greenberg. Directed by Steve Miner. Copyright Dimension Films and Trancas International.
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Corrections for The Story of Halloween: H20 ...
- John Carl Buechler was not a founding member of KNB effects
- The picture of the knife in the Fun Fact is the wrong knife
So it wasn't Michael Myers but a security guard who had his throat crushed by Michael leaving the security guard unable to speak! What? He couldn't write on a piece of paper he wasn't Michael Myers?
@@leejohnstone4663 It was a paramedic and if you've seen the movie or at least the ending, it shows the paramedic dressed as Michael being zipped up in a body bag before being put in the coroners van, Michael clearly knocked him out or thought he had killed him which is when he changed clothes with him, besides if he was conscious enough to write a note then he would've been able to take his mask off to alert folk that he wasn't Michael
@@misslaura199 Which explains why Halloween Resurrection was so stupid and pointless. H20 was a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 (twenty years later) was the caption use to promote the movie. Halloween H20 is where the franchise should have ended. By having Laurie killing Michael along with making H20 a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 book ends the franchise.
@@leejohnstone4663 You're totally right Ressurection was just awful there are so many things wrong with that movie mainly the unbelievable way they killed off Laurie, even her stunt double said she didn't believe it was possible for Laurie to be killed off that quickly and so easily but unfortunately Jamie Lee wanted to cut all her ties with Halloween at the time and the late Moustapha Akkad had made sure it was written in to all of the Halloween contracts that Michael was never to be killed because that was the intention with several drafts for H20 Michael always died in all of them but Moustapha was very protective of the character and wanted Michael to remain alive so they could continue doing sequels
@@misslaura199 Trouble with the horror genre is the countless and pointless sequels
H20 was so good at the time when Janet Leigh drove up in the psycho car and offered "Lori motherly advice", the whole theatre erupted in clapping and shouts and went wild. I watch Halloween and H20 back to back. I ignore all the others. I've seen them all but none matter at all to me but those two. And yes I saw the original in the theatre and it was beyond horrifying. Great video!!
Halloween 2 is underrated. All the JLC ones except Halloween Kills are excellent (Don't count resurrection, as it's a cameo, as she is no longer dead) and worthy of mention.
Didn't he say this movie was released exclusively on vhs so they didn't take a chance of bombing the box office?
@@Son-Of-David1990 It was originally going to until JLC signed on.
You’re ignoring some better movies with 2 and 4. This is a made-for-tv Halloween movie.
Ditto. The original n H20 r my favorite n only two I rewatch each year.
I much prefer the Laurie in this movie than the 2018 version. It was more realistic that she’d be traumatised and an alcoholic than living in the woods shooting rifles with a hidden trap in her basement. H2O is very of its time but very fun and well acted.
Yep, Laurie in this movie is much more believable, plus her relationship with her son. It's done so much better than 2018 which kinda makes no sense.
Huh
@@therealmyers7826 2018 obviously! Edited....
Fully agree and I think its Crap they ditched any mention of a son when he didnt come back for the sad 2018 version. Even if she later had a daughter they could’ve kept his Character in the story. H20 was the LAST movie imho
I agree! Though I like 2018 way more than H20 I do agree that Laurie is H20 was more like the Laurie strode in 1978
Perfect way to start off the year than with an awesome retrospective of the movie that honestly made me a fan of horror movies, everytime I watch the scene when Laurie/Keri grabs the fire axe and screams "Michael", I instantly get chillbumps.
No explanation where he was for 20 years no burn marks eyes in tact I ll still take it over woke shit 2018 freaking studio interference
@@gkroll8467 have you seen this one? ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
SAME
I watch the 1978 original & H20 back to back every Halloween. It's became a tradition
The work that has gone into this video is brilliant, Layton! Bravo, Sir!
Crazy seeing you here, had no idea you liked Halloween channels
Thank you very much! I'm just obsessive.
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Easy thirsty boy
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Ugh... the obligatory "fAnCy SeEiNg YoU hErE" every time another RUclipsr appears in the comment section. As if it's such a strange notion that RUclipsr's have interests outside of the content they create 🙄
@@Bubba__Sawyer it was crazy!
Fun fact:
Michael Myers' performers Chris Durand and Tom Morga (the first half of "HALLOWEEN 4") did stunt work for "THE LOST WORLD: Jurassic Park" with Tom Morga being the stunt double for Jeff Goldblum.
This was an awesome watch, glad this got recommended!
Woke up a little while ago and happy to take this in... Happy New year
Now this is what a call a great belated Christmas present.
Awesome stuff man. I really enjoyed it. Love the editing
This is how i like to start my new year's!
Another excellent video. Cheers!
This was fantastic as usual. Would love to see you make a retrospective for the Child's Play franchise.
It's going to happen at some point
@@LaytonEversaul Can’t wait! I’m curious to know how Child’s Play 3 came to be.
You’re the best in the biz in my book, sir! Well done.
So well researched, I love this content
H20 is one of my favorites!!
I don't care what anyone says, Halloween, Halloween II and H20 are the true series for me. None of the reboot crap.
A couple months later than expected but kicking off 2022 right!!! 🎃🔪
Hey there, I’m new to the channel. I remember Scream giving this film a new audience. I saw it in pre-everyone-has-the-internet Australia in 99. I really enjoyed it. I studied film a year or two after and was informed this is wrong. I went on to write horror film reviews for the student magazine.
That Tony Soprano cameo was hilarious
If for no other reason, documentarys like this make RUclips the most valuable media outlet ever. As good as it is, unless you have an uncle with a hookup, this wouldn't ever see the light of day. RUclips is the democratization of creativity. You are good at this. People like your work. You earn a living.
And you didn't have to wear out a set of kneepads to get it done.
If only every aspect of life was this fair.
Maybe best of all. You down have to bend to the whims of a union to make your living.
And Im not sh*tting on unions in general, if they work for you, GodBless.
Will you make videos on some unproduced scripts like in the Halloween franchise. The details that you share on some early drafts or different scripts are interesting.
You never know! That would make for some interesting research ...
Another top notch video
I liked Forever Young...that was a good flick. The Fog.....AWESOME!!!!! LOL Wow, I didn't realize that was her mom when she got the snickers scared out of her. Cool. I dunno...to me, JLC IS Halloween.
H20 was the best out of all of them and everyone’s MAD
It was Curtis idea. She went to Debra and John. They no longer wanted to get involved. They guided her to Kevin Williamson.
32:44 Im 53 Nowadays and got to see this movie in theaters , Ressurection also. And i still do not cant understand WHY ? Micheal Was Hanging up on a Vertical pole up at a ceiling like Mitch Gaylord?
I definitely prefer Laurie in this movie. It feels more real and genuine than how she is portrayed in 2018’s Halloween.
H20 is the best Michael Myers movie . I love watching it
I can't believe this Halloween H20 is already 24 years old..... What?
Halloween 2018 is now 6 yearsold
I "watched" this movie for the first time when I was around 4. I never wanted to watch it, my uncle was the one who watched it and I was just in the crossfire. As edgy as it sounds, I was never _scared_ of it, I remember being more...Intrigued? I guess. I had no clue what the movie was about, all I knew was "the man with the white face is bad" and I remember being interested in how Laurie was the only one capable of going toe-to-toe with Michael.
After Halloween Ends, I watched this for the first time to see which timeline I preferred.
In conclusion, the series should've ended here. So much to where the concept of Resurrection existing feels like an insult to me. I just feel bad that one of my friends hates it because he hates the brother/sister thing going on with Michael and Laurie.
Very underrated movie. If the mask had been better, this would be a near perfect Halloween movie.
10:47 Jamie Lee cameo.
Grand theft auto is Michael's greatest crime
OK, Josh Hartnett cutting his own hair poorly on purpose to f* with the makeup team is excellent. Because I thought at least 2 makeup teams gave him that hair on purpose (the other being The Faculty). So this makes more sense and also makes me love J.H. more.
Whoever thinks this movie is terrible hasnt seen the next one lol
The next one never happened to me
@@bekindrewind335 the only one that’s worse than Resurrection is Halloween 5
@@bekindrewind335I can agree that Halloween Ends and Rob Zombies were trash too
Or Halloween 3 or Halloween Ends. 😂
@@ryandeffley7652Halloween 3 was good.
A 56 minute retrospective on an 86 minute movie, I love it. Awesome work as always mate, keep it up.
Haha Thanks!
Josh was 19 when a Halloween film catapulted him to stardom. Jamie was also 19 when the same happened.
I miss him, the faculty even cheesy as it is, is one of my favorite movies. He's very picky about the roles he takes anymore.
I think he’s overrated. Looks half asleep in everything 😂
You rmom was 19 when she had you. Your dad was 39
Definitely was not "catapulted into stardom" lol. He faded away pretty quickly and never cut it is as a leading man. Also, Trading Places is what truly launched Jamie's career.
That’s freaking amazing. I didn’t even know that. 😮🎉🎉
A perfect retrospective on a wonderful Halloween film, I think I still like this one just a little better than the 2018 one
Of course.. Halloween 2018 is garbage
@@florifatsarino2982 your to kind 2018 is below garbage
@@florifatsarino2982 2018 was really good, the one that I though was bad was kills
I enjoyed h2o for what it was. It was fun. But it’s supposed to be a horror movie. But I never thought it was scary at all. But the actors performances saved it all in my opinion
You should check out the H20 revisit ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
While I definitely enjoyed the parts of Halloween 2018, I definitely prefer H2O. My preferred Laurie Strode trilogy is the original Halloween, Halloween 2, and Halloween H2O.
The moment Laurie locks the gate behind her to confront Michael and screams his name and the theme music starts playing gives me chills every time. It's my absolute favorite moment of the entire franchise.
I never understood how this film could acknowledge Halloween 2 but ignore that Michael died. We literally see his body on fire and him collapsing, still burning. No way in hell did he survive that, especially without massive scarring.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that's really my only criticism. I like the fact that at least Halloween 4 showed Michael's hands with burn scars.
I wish H20 had done that too.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that’s how I always felt. Like how was he gonna just walk away from that before anybody got to him. It could be said though that the explosion blew Loomis and Michael away and Michael only suffered minor injuries and wasn’t set on fire and Laurie just imagined seeing Michael on fire. That’s a possibility that would explain Michael still being alive but it kinda doesn’t work. I heard that the director originally intended this to be a sequel to the original only, but kept II in continuity because of the sibling aspect, which, thinking about it, could’ve still been kept because if they were siblings in the second one they were in the first one the audience and Laurie just didn’t know it yet. I just think the filmmakers and writers just put something together and brought JLC back and called it an anniversary film. None of the filmmakers after 4 really cared about storyline nor continuity. That’s my take.
@@orinanime Exactly
Great points!
I look at the series as only having three movies, Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20.. where the shape is finally killed. Every series needs a definitive ending.
This was one my favorite Halloween movies! Love the great cast, actually one of my favorite casts out of all the films, and was similar in the scare factor that Halloween 1 and 2 offered. Loved the set design and the fact the Janet Leigh played in the film along side her daughter. I thought the whole film was a 8 out of 10.
I So Agree!!
1, 2 & H20 make a great story!
@@jamesw.pickering2967yes!!! That’s my fav trilogy
@jamesw.pickering2967 After Halloween Ends couldn't stick the landing I gotta say this is the superior trilogy
Nancy Stephens is great in H20, even though she dies rather unceremoniously in H20 and Halloween Kills, her death in H20 is better handled than in Kills, which was a solid disappointment
Kills was fun and badass. Most brutal and badass Michael Myers ever. I like Kills alot more than H20. Now H20 is a great story. I like the atmosphere of H20 and I really enjoyed Jamie Lee in it. I just hate the Michael Myers mask in H20 and the shitty portrayal of Myers. H20 had by far the weakest Michael Myers. He had no balls. That's mine any many other Halloween fans problem with H20. Don't make Michael Myers weak and vulnerable. That Michael Myers in H20 didn't scare or intimidate me.
@@jskypercussion Kills was horrible!
@@jskypercussion Halloween Kills was a horrible, bottom of the barrel movie. Just dreadful
@@FervAnimalLover isn't amazing how divided the Halloween fanbase is on movies in the franchise? I and many others love the shit out of Kills. There are many other out there that hate it. It's the same with H20. Outside of a weak Michael in H20 I still enjoy parts of the movie. I know people personally that absolutely hate H20 with a passion.
@@jskypercussion Nah, Halloween Kills is a pretty bad film
I still think they should have ended the franchise with this one. It had the perfect ending with Laurie cutting Michael's head off.
Great video. Never bought the whole ending of H20 that it was really the paramedic with a crushed larynx. All he had to do was use the hand he reached out to Laurie with to pull off the mask to reveal the true identity. And why would he even reach out to Laurie in the first place. Not a clever compromise as everyone thinks.
That “ explanation” was not part of H20! Is was cheaply made last minute on Resurrection to explain why Resurrection exists lol legally Michael Myers cannot die permanently! Which is the downside of policies for Halloween Franchise.
Well naturally enough wouldn't anyone reach out to help them if they were in a lot of pain?
@@josephprendergast2 Sure but I think anyone's first inclination would be to take off the mask that's on their face
@@mikeymiketheplaya5792 Not if your Michael Myers or some crazy psycho serial killer 😅
@@dreamlovermimi9458I dunno it seems like when they turned Myers corpse into ground beef in Halloween Ends that was rather definitive. But I get what you mean, it was a cheap tacked on last second shooting to lay the groundwork for Resurrection. Because Akkad is obsessed with the films being formulaic and repetitive
This is the first horror movie I ever remember watching as a kid. It scared the shit out of me and I had to turn it off, but rewatched it again a little later and made it all the way through... A horror fan was created that day.
I thought I was reading my own words hahaha that's EXACTLY what happened to me, I was scared shitless but with a resurgence of curiosity, then when I got to watch it later as a whole it was so good, won't ever forget this.
Another fantastic retrospective! By chance, do you know if and where the "Michael Myers: Lord of the Dead" treatment is available to read? I am a HUGE fan of Halloween 6 and I adore that screenplay to no end. I would absolutely love to read Farrands' part 2 of that story. That would be a dream come true!
Let me know if you find it! I love H6 as well most atmospheric Halloween and darkest toned film in the series!
Enjoyed this so much. H20 Is one of my favorite sequels, but I like Laurie Strode’s HALLOWEEN 2018 return the best. It realistically shows the trauma these events could cause a person in real life (or at least in my mind)🤷🏾♂️
See I actually find H20 is more realistic with how it deals with trauma because I feel like more people would try to run and avoid it through drugs and alcohol rather than becoming an absolute machine and making their entire house an elaborate trap
H20 Laurie was much more believable. A functioning addict who tried various avenues of recovery, who was living a semblance of normality but who was haunted by the events 20 years previously. Her relationship with her son was more believable also, and the effect it was having on him. The 2018 Laurie was just OTT, like Linda Hamilton. To top it off, she had even less reason to be like that as there was no familial connection, thus no reason for her to fear Micheal returning, plus Halloween 2 never happened. Overcooked in 2018.
Her trauma would be far more realistic had they not retconned every film, but the original. It's overkill when you really think about it. H20 is a far better interpretation of how the character would've attempted to cope with the events of the franchise, in it's entirety. Halloween Ends just helped galvanize my belief, that being this new trilogy is an absolute embarrassment.
@@thegent8916 and then the complete 180 in her character in this last film? Because she got a haircut?! It makes me laugh. Her daughter and son in law were murdered & Michael's on the loose, but that's much better than when he was incarcerated for 40 years, so it's all grand now! Talk about twisting the character to suit the narrative! If anything it should've been the reverse with her character as these films play out. It would've made more sense. But no....
I feel like the 2018 Laurie would have calmed down like H20. It'd be more sensible if she were an alcoholic wreck rigging traps in a house in 1998, when the trauma was only 20 years old and not 40 years.
This movie is so much more fun than 2018. Its certainly among my favourite of the sequels. And H20 is an awful but also oddly endearing nickname. It has so much more personality that Horror Movie (Year Goes Here).
Still better than the original title they played around with "Halloween 7: The Revenge of Laurie Strode" If it were me, I would just call it "Halloween: Twenty Years Later"
Man, which version did I watch, because this movie is so stupid. The scene where she's under the tables, and Michael is very, very slowly swiping at her, and lazily ambling after his victims? So lame.
I love H20. I feel like it was a great rap up to the story of Laurie. Showing her coping with PTSD and how that affected her relationship with her son in between the scares was really compelling to me.
I love fictional school setting in this film. Halloweens 4 and 5 have the best atmosphere of all the films, setting-wise. It actually looks like the Midwest and INCORPORATES HALLOWEEN. (Seriously, I hate how obvious it is in the original that adding the holiday was just a gimmick. Everyone is babysitting, but none of the kids are trick-or-treating? GTFO!) But aside from those 2, the Canfield-Moreno Estate provides a backdrop that is equally gorgeous and spooky. It's convincingly isolated, and the gates, hallways, and dumbwaiter all make for great set pieces.
The Canfield-Morena Estate is also used as Roman's mansion in Scream 3. The courtyard seen in H20 is where the pool is located. It's covered up in H20 and looks like a cement yard.
I have great memories of taking my mom to see Halloween H20 in the cinema. She was a huge Michael Myers (and John Carpenter) fan. I thought this was a great sequel.
Without sounding insensitive was she still alive for 2018s? What were her views on that?
@@rodgerkehl8399 She has seen the new ones. Even took her to the Cape Fear Community College to be an extra in the hospital scenes. She loved them.
@@wstine79 omg that’s amazing! I think I prefer H20 to 2018, but I loved Kills
H2O is really good IMO. The whole storyline and characters are good, the school setting worked well and had its own creepiness. Laurie rox, Jamie Lee and Janet Leigh are goddesses!
been waiting for new content, would like to see one on Back to the Future trilogy. great job
Those are inevitable.
@@LaytonEversaul - Then get to it already, lol 😆
@@MLJ7956 Don't be rude. He's not obligated to fulfill requests and he's not on a schedule.
@@Bubba__Sawyer - You're 7 months too late in responding. Old news. FYI, and it was in jest humor. Did you not see the lol & laugh emoji???
@@MLJ7956 Clearly I wasn't too late as you've seen my post and responded to it. That's why RUclips doesn't just delete comments after a week, so that the discussion can continue whenever.
Dunno why so many people seem to think "yOu'Re rEpLyInG tO aN oLd cOmMeNt" is some kind of gotcha moment.
Jamie loved Kevin and really wanted him to work as the main writer because she loved Scream and how it paid respect and homage to Halloween without doing a complete redo of it like most horror movies did after the original, Kevin also wrote in a great scene which included Sarah doing a paper on the Haddonfield murders including the murder of Jamie Lloyd which would trigger Laurie's PTSD leaving her vomiting and weeping in the ladies toilet but the other writer didn't want any inclusion of the other movies and it was scrapped, I think it would've been so much better to have included the story of 4, 5 and Jamies death in 6 to make it like a Sophies Choice type of thing and Laurie could only take one child so she took John making John and Jamie twins, Jamie was only 15 in H6 and this movie is only 3 years later so it's not that farfetched of an idea but they went the route they did which was still a great movie but I get more Scream vibes when I watch it not Halloween vibes
Laurie Strode is much more well-adjusted in H20 than in Halloween (2018).
You don't upload often but then again...Quality takes time!
Happy new year Layton 😀
Thanks! Same to you!
Hey I love Halloween H20! Yes it has its downfalls and issues but it was great seeing Jamie Lee Curtis back in her prominent role as a more mature Laurie Strode! I only wish H2O had tied in the previous storyline with her daughter Jamie Lloyd as it has suggested in the earlier draft before release! It would have acknowledged that Laurie did infact have a daughter before faking her own death and assuming a new identity! I was very confused at the time when the film was released. But today it is definitely a beloved movie that lives in my horror collection!
You know what I love? Is how you didn't feel the need to do some hack shit like "Harvey weinstein.... yeah.. THAT guy." that every other video knows. We know... WE ALL KNOW.
Love all these videos!!! One nitpick though, the CGI mask was originally the "Alien mask", not Buechler's slightly reworked H6. This is evident by the hair and the much smaller, far less detailed ears on the mask. You cant miss the ears on the H6, lol.
This movie came out on my 12th birthday and I remember begging my mom to let me see it. I initially left disappointed because he didn’t kill enough people lol but adulthood eyes showed me all the Easter eggs I missed as a kid. I really love this film. I think this film is Jamie Lee Curtis best portrayal of Laurie Strode. I don’t care for scared Laurie from the first two films or Survivalist Laurie from the latest two films. It’s not flawless but it ranks above most of the sequels to me.
Buechler was not a co-founder of KNB FX, dude. The KNB is Kurtzman, Nicotero and Berger. Howard Berger *did* work as Buechler's assistant but KNB was just the 3 guys as they all split off from their former jobs to form their own outfit. Buechler did not aid in founding their FX company.
Your videos are fantastic, dude. Amazing effort on research, editing and overall presentation. Keep up the great work!
You ever seen this one? ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
@@jessycartell1996 Yes, and the guy got a bunch of facts wrong. Lol I prefer Layton's videos. He puts in a ton of effort and they are professionally made.
Cheers.
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us what facts did he get wrong?
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us dude you sound dumb I saw your comment on his video and he literally argued all your points with facts and you didn’t respond lol he didn’t miss a beat in that video. Sorry bruh you’re wrong
I always wondered why her son's hair looked like trash. That explains that
Great job on this one, Layton.
Halloween H20 is the best from all the movie franchise! Really good plot and a decent confrontation between Laurie and Michael.
In reality, H20 is one of the worst films in the franchise.
@@travzimmerman1340 Not everyone thinks the same, I mean, yes is not like the best movie of the world and I agree with you on that. Just saying that because of the environment of 20 years has passed, it has that feeling (at least for me) like those series when making a reunion after many years of their last ep! But, I do respect your opinion.
@travzimmerman1340 Well, let's see, it's better than:
Halloween 3
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween 6
Halloween resurrection
Halloween 2018
Halloween Kills
Halloween Ends
Yup. Just about covers it.
I prefer Jamie Lee Curtis' return in this film, but I prefer the newer Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills to H2O.
After you remove the brother/sister connection, I don't feel Jamie Lee Curtis was necessary in the newer movies.
For me, Halloween, Halloween II and Halloween H20 are the best of the franchise and form a good trilogy. I was quite disappointed by the recent reboot.
H20 could have been good, had they just not wanted to make it into some weird CW Scream tween garbage with the god awful LL Cool J stuff...Well and IF you ignore logic like him stealing a car and driving from Haddonfield to California on one tank of gas clearly, knowing where Loomis lived, knowing where the Nurse from 20 years ago lived...Loomis not only knowing that Laurie faked her death but kept records with her new name and location.
@@lutherheggs451 To be fair, you could make criticisms like that about any of the films. How did he know how to drive at all when he was institutionalised at the age of 6? How did he know Laurie was at the hospital? I think you have to assume he has some kind of supernatural knowledge.
@@lutherheggs451
%100 correct. H20 was garbage. Loomis wouldn't have a file on a person that was NEVER his patient especially 20 years later and years after he died. H20 is just so damn bad. I can't believe most people can't see right thru it.
@@kevint1719
In part 2 (1981) Michael hears, as a kid walks by with a boom-box, the survivor (Laurie) was taken to Haddonfield Hospital.
H20 has a special place in my heart in being the first R rated movie I saw in the theaters. I was 15 at the time.
It was mine too. I was like 9 when i saw it but this movie was a big turd looking back. Not scary. Soundtrack was goofy and the actor who played michael didnt have the physicality for it. Fail!
STILL, the Best Ending in all 3 Halloween movie franchises. If anyone could kill Michael Myers, it should be Laurie Strode. Not expecting a decent ending to THIS year's 2022 Final Halloween film.
This is the first Halloween movie I was able to see in theaters and what made me a fan of the series. It'd be nice to get an official release of the FX TV cut and/or workprint version like they did in 2012 for Halloween II. If I had to guess, Scream Factory would include 1 of them as a special feature if they continue to make 4K releases of the franchise as well as the inevitable collection re-release once Ends comes out.
This is where the series ended for me. Amazing opening score by John Ottman, great performances by Adam Arkin and Jamie Lee Curtis. The biggest drawback of this movie is Micheal not getting enough screen-time and the final battle feeling short.
I wish they had gone through with the helicopter bus ending, cause there's no way it would've been anyone but Micheal dying. Nobody comes back from being diced by a chopper.
Great video, but I think you’re confusing john carl buechler with Howard Berger. Beuchler wasn’t a KNB founder
I was about to post about it until I saw your post haha
This is my Laurie
My attention span is pretty dreadful these days but this retrospective was absolutely bloody brilliant. I was fully engaged and loving every damn second. Brilliantly researched, narrated, edited. I didn't want it to end! You have a huge talent.
I genuinely expected to see your channel have over 100k subs because it would be thoroughly deserved. Well done, mate. I can't wait to look though your channel to see what other slasher delights you have here. 🙌💯
Thank you! I like to think improve a little with each video.
@@LaytonEversaul well, keep 'em coming because this is easily one of the best retrospectives I've ever seen. Watched your Friday Part 2 one last night and I'm about to watch more now. Keep up the awesome work!
Another awesome video man, you never disappoint! I have always loved H20!
Dan Farrands' "H/>LLOWEEN 6 Part II: Michael Myers, Lord of The Dead" should have been made into a graphic novel, considering the same was done with his original vision of "HALLOWEEN 8" which featured Laurie Strode as the new Michael Myers.
Now that this movie storyline has been erased from history....I'm just wondering if all the people who paid to see it will be refunded??? Thought not....
Great insight into this film. I wish they took more risks instead of relying on the Scream style & recycling music. Using the footage from So I Married an Axe Murderer was a better idea than using Scream 2. All the Scream references like this make it feel more generic.
H20 was the first Halloween, and horror movie I ever saw back in 1999. It has some flaws but I can easily watch it time and time again.
was so excited when the trailer for this video dropped, love a good long retrospective on a halloween movie. great way to start the year
Great Stuff LE!
This was the second Halloween I watched in the theater (pt 6 being the first). I’m not as big of a fan of it as I was when I first saw it I still enjoy it and ending actually shocked me. I was like, they actually killed him ..or so I thought lol
This movie should have been titled Halloween 7: The Revenge of Laurie Strode. Don Coscarelli said, "When horror movies stop numbering their sequels, you know something's wrong." Dropping ties with 4-6 was a mistake that turned this movie into a Scream wannabe. Akkad's lame "Michael can never die" rule turned this movie's great death into a jerkoff with no payoff. All this led to Resurrection being the shitshow that was.
Amazing video! Halloween H20 is one of the best sequels in the entirety of the franchise. I actually really enjoy Halloween 2 and the creepy hospital setting and I have a particular fondness for Halloween 4, mainly bc it was one of the first Halloween movies I ever saw as a child. Unfortunately, the Halloween franchise has one of the worst continuities and overall lore compared to the other major horror franchises like Nightmare and Friday. H20 SHOULD have been the conclusion to the Halloween franchise, which would have helped bring an end to all of the disjointed sequels that were released following the original and rather complete story of Halloween 1 & 2.
If the studios chose to reboot or start the franchise over at a later date, it could be it’s own entity and not be tied down by all of the past iterations of the story. Unfortunately, the studio chose to disregard a truly acceptable sequel that pleased just about everyone, and gave us the abomination that was Halloween Resurrection. It even managed to create a pathetic end to one of horror’s most iconic final girls by killing Laurie Strode in the most unforgettable way possible at the start of the movie.
That is why I wish they had had the guts to stick with the finality of the ending we saw in H20, and when they wanted to revisit the franchise at a later date, they could start over however they wished just like the current Halloween trilogy did starting in 2018. The Halloween franchise has always been incredibly uneven in the quality of its sequels and a complete reset of the story was the best way to go after bringing the old continuities to an end with H20.
Considering the original Halloween was supposed to be similar to Black Christmas by having a killer that basically has no actual motive for the heinous murders they are committing, is what made those movies truly scary and work. By adding a motive and contrived backstory has shown with both Halloween and Black Christmas that both stories work best when they are simple and just straight up slashers with killers that have no motive and just kill bc they feel like it.
How is H20 one of the best? Myers is goofy, It dosent even feel like a Halloween Movie, it tries way to hard to be like Scream with the kills, And the butchery of the Mask, or "Masks" all of them we're horrible except for the H6 Mask, Chris Durand does not cut an Intimidating Myers, it has a slow pacing to it and it drags on, and the ending is overrated.
Perfectly said, hated the mask issues but great story and atmosphere in H20!
I think I prefer seeing Laurie overcome her PTSD enough to face her worst fear and find the strength to fight back. The new Laurie is just a hot mess, and it wouldn't surprise me if these latest sequels are all just a delusion she's having. A life of obsessive paranoia finally meets senility in old age, consummating the marriage in dementia just as the nasty divorce from reality has been finalized.
I'm definitely not buying this new bullshit about Michael Myers being, like, the ~horror of Halloween~ literally incarnate, growing stronger with every year on the ~spookiest~ night. Even though I'll admit there's always a bit of ~drama~ in even the tritest tropes, the concept is made even more abstract in the absence of an obvious reason for this energy to literally manifest itself as a masked murderer somewhere in Middle America during the disco era.
I mean, try to find a contender for last place anyone, or anything, would feel energetically drawn to such a ~spooktacular~ power source on such an eventful night as Oct. 31, much less stick around for 60+ years like the real party is just about to start. It could possibly happen any sequel now, or maybe in another decade and another round of retcons, remakes and repeats of ~the night he comes home~ (but maybe for real this time).
GREAT Job on my FAVE of the Franchise (directly after the Original of course 😜)
As a massive fan, Im VERY Saddened to see Josh Hartnett as her son COMPLETELY cut out of the new Movies👎🏻. I need to find a video that explains why that happened. This movie was such a great take off of the 1st and has a place in my heart. Maybe because I turned 21 the year it came out and lived in both Northern Ca as well as LA. Im SHOCKED the School and surrounding town were NOT Filmed up North! They NAILED that Sonoma/ Napa vibe. This made my morning to see! Thank you
H20 is indeed one of the best sequels from the franchise, far superior to 4,5&6 &the abysmal Resurrection & terrible Zombie films. Yet H20 was undoubtedly tugging onto the coat tails of the scream franchise with its self awareness and intertextuality. There’s nothing wrong with that, but the 2018 version is far superior, wisely choosing to wipe the slate of inferior sequels and have the setting 40 years after the original Haddonfield massacre. I love that sequence where the journalists visit Michael at Smith’s Grove. Brilliant. Didn’t think much of Halloween Kills, pretty silly and not scary at all. Let’s hope Halloween Ends serves up a worthy “ending” to this legendary franchise. Can’t wait. Great documentary by the way 👏🏻👏🏻👍
I'm from the camp that thinks this is the best of the Halloween sequels; and also for me this is where the Halloween series official ends. That ending! Now that's closure.
I'm not. In my opinion, the original Halloween 2 and Halloween 4 are better. I also think Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills are better.
@@darthtrip7188 That's cool... BUT, H2 (original) is where MM "dies" but of course H4 is where MM returns. And H 2018 is a direct sequel to H2 (original). Soooo....
@@watchdogsplaythroughs9852 That's actually incorrect. Halloween 2018 is a direct Sequel to Halloween 1978. Halloween 2018 ignores all of the Sequels including Halloween 2 1981. That's why Michael Myers and Laurie Strode are no longer Brother and Sister in Halloween 2018. It wasn't revealed that they were Brother and Sister until Halloween 2 1981 but Halloween 2018 ignores Halloween 2 1981 as well. This current timeline is Halloween 1978, Halloween 2018, Halloween Kills, and Halloween Ends.
@@darthtrip7188 Oh shit, you're right. I was thinking H20 is a direct sequel to H2 original. My bad. This is the confusion that happens when too many timelines are interwoven across so many sequels. XD
I love how thorough this is! I can tell you put a lot of work and soul into making this. H20 is one of my favorite movies. It makes me so happy when people make these kinds of videos ❤️
Thank you!
H20 gets overlooked now as a Scream clone, but it was SO refreshing at the time! I wanted to stand up and cheer when it was over.
It's a shame too because there would be no "Scream" if there was not "Halloween" to begin with.
@PlusUltraAdrian in scream they watched halloween. In halloween h20 they watched scream 2.
The work you do in these retrospectives is truly amazing. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
I truly love this film despite the weird looking CGI mask and wide eyed open one in the finale. I love every single Halloween movie. Only one I'm confused about is Halloween II (2009) movie 😅😅
YES!! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK! Yes!
Wow! These are great and super interesting! I love these retrospectives of the Halloween films. Keep it up.
Happy new year everyone
Despite its flaws, it’s still one of the better Halloween sequels. It’s biggest sin is not retconning the brother/sister subplot but I’ll forgive that because it doesn’t acknowledge the ridiculous cult storyline from the previous 2 lol
I mean, how would you retcon it without acknowledging it? It just seems easier for everyone to accept that ̶L̶a̶u̶r̶i̶e̶ Keri lives day to day in fear that revealing anything about her past or any connection to Haddonfield, Ill., would literally put everyone's life in danger.
@@user-kb8qw7dy4t What do you mean? It should’ve been a direct sequel to the first. Thankfully Halloween 18 did the right thing.
@@07foxmulder I believe it's supposed to be a direct sequel to the second film. Although, it seemed like it wanted to leave open the possibility -- maybe out of respect for fans of the whole franchise -- that Jamie was still given up for adoption when Laurie had to bury her entire past and disappear before assuming a whole new identity.
Oh... excellent way to start the new year! Dude...your videos kick ass, thank you and keep them coming. Hope you and yours had a great holiday period and wishing you all the best for 2022 (things can only get better....right?)
This was my first very own horror film I owned on VHS
I was around 12 at the time, loved it 👌🏼