Corrections for The Story of Halloween: H20 ... - John Carl Buechler was not a founding member of KNB effects - The picture of the knife in the Fun Fact is the wrong knife
So it wasn't Michael Myers but a security guard who had his throat crushed by Michael leaving the security guard unable to speak! What? He couldn't write on a piece of paper he wasn't Michael Myers?
@@leejohnstone4663 It was a paramedic and if you've seen the movie or at least the ending, it shows the paramedic dressed as Michael being zipped up in a body bag before being put in the coroners van, Michael clearly knocked him out or thought he had killed him which is when he changed clothes with him, besides if he was conscious enough to write a note then he would've been able to take his mask off to alert folk that he wasn't Michael
@@misslaura199 Which explains why Halloween Resurrection was so stupid and pointless. H20 was a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 (twenty years later) was the caption use to promote the movie. Halloween H20 is where the franchise should have ended. By having Laurie killing Michael along with making H20 a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 book ends the franchise.
@@leejohnstone4663 You're totally right Ressurection was just awful there are so many things wrong with that movie mainly the unbelievable way they killed off Laurie, even her stunt double said she didn't believe it was possible for Laurie to be killed off that quickly and so easily but unfortunately Jamie Lee wanted to cut all her ties with Halloween at the time and the late Moustapha Akkad had made sure it was written in to all of the Halloween contracts that Michael was never to be killed because that was the intention with several drafts for H20 Michael always died in all of them but Moustapha was very protective of the character and wanted Michael to remain alive so they could continue doing sequels
I look at the series as only having three movies, Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20.. where the shape is finally killed. Every series needs a definitive ending.
Definitely was not "catapulted into stardom" lol. He faded away pretty quickly and never cut it is as a leading man. Also, Trading Places is what truly launched Jamie's career.
Perfect way to start off the year than with an awesome retrospective of the movie that honestly made me a fan of horror movies, everytime I watch the scene when Laurie/Keri grabs the fire axe and screams "Michael", I instantly get chillbumps.
I much prefer the Laurie in this movie than the 2018 version. It was more realistic that she’d be traumatised and an alcoholic than living in the woods shooting rifles with a hidden trap in her basement. H2O is very of its time but very fun and well acted.
Fully agree and I think its Crap they ditched any mention of a son when he didnt come back for the sad 2018 version. Even if she later had a daughter they could’ve kept his Character in the story. H20 was the LAST movie imho
H20 was so good at the time when Janet Leigh drove up in the psycho car and offered "Lori motherly advice", the whole theatre erupted in clapping and shouts and went wild. I watch Halloween and H20 back to back. I ignore all the others. I've seen them all but none matter at all to me but those two. And yes I saw the original in the theatre and it was beyond horrifying. Great video!!
Halloween 2 is underrated. All the JLC ones except Halloween Kills are excellent (Don't count resurrection, as it's a cameo, as she is no longer dead) and worthy of mention.
While I definitely enjoyed the parts of Halloween 2018, I definitely prefer H2O. My preferred Laurie Strode trilogy is the original Halloween, Halloween 2, and Halloween H2O. The moment Laurie locks the gate behind her to confront Michael and screams his name and the theme music starts playing gives me chills every time. It's my absolute favorite moment of the entire franchise.
I never understood how this film could acknowledge Halloween 2 but ignore that Michael died. We literally see his body on fire and him collapsing, still burning. No way in hell did he survive that, especially without massive scarring.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that's really my only criticism. I like the fact that at least Halloween 4 showed Michael's hands with burn scars. I wish H20 had done that too.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that’s how I always felt. Like how was he gonna just walk away from that before anybody got to him. It could be said though that the explosion blew Loomis and Michael away and Michael only suffered minor injuries and wasn’t set on fire and Laurie just imagined seeing Michael on fire. That’s a possibility that would explain Michael still being alive but it kinda doesn’t work. I heard that the director originally intended this to be a sequel to the original only, but kept II in continuity because of the sibling aspect, which, thinking about it, could’ve still been kept because if they were siblings in the second one they were in the first one the audience and Laurie just didn’t know it yet. I just think the filmmakers and writers just put something together and brought JLC back and called it an anniversary film. None of the filmmakers after 4 really cared about storyline nor continuity. That’s my take.
I love H20. I feel like it was a great rap up to the story of Laurie. Showing her coping with PTSD and how that affected her relationship with her son in between the scares was really compelling to me.
This is the first horror movie I ever remember watching as a kid. It scared the shit out of me and I had to turn it off, but rewatched it again a little later and made it all the way through... A horror fan was created that day.
I thought I was reading my own words hahaha that's EXACTLY what happened to me, I was scared shitless but with a resurgence of curiosity, then when I got to watch it later as a whole it was so good, won't ever forget this.
I enjoyed h2o for what it was. It was fun. But it’s supposed to be a horror movie. But I never thought it was scary at all. But the actors performances saved it all in my opinion
This was one my favorite Halloween movies! Love the great cast, actually one of my favorite casts out of all the films, and was similar in the scare factor that Halloween 1 and 2 offered. Loved the set design and the fact the Janet Leigh played in the film along side her daughter. I thought the whole film was a 8 out of 10.
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Ugh... the obligatory "fAnCy SeEiNg YoU hErE" every time another RUclipsr appears in the comment section. As if it's such a strange notion that RUclipsr's have interests outside of the content they create 🙄
H2O is really good IMO. The whole storyline and characters are good, the school setting worked well and had its own creepiness. Laurie rox, Jamie Lee and Janet Leigh are goddesses!
Great video. Never bought the whole ending of H20 that it was really the paramedic with a crushed larynx. All he had to do was use the hand he reached out to Laurie with to pull off the mask to reveal the true identity. And why would he even reach out to Laurie in the first place. Not a clever compromise as everyone thinks.
That “ explanation” was not part of H20! Is was cheaply made last minute on Resurrection to explain why Resurrection exists lol legally Michael Myers cannot die permanently! Which is the downside of policies for Halloween Franchise.
@@dreamlovermimi9458I dunno it seems like when they turned Myers corpse into ground beef in Halloween Ends that was rather definitive. But I get what you mean, it was a cheap tacked on last second shooting to lay the groundwork for Resurrection. Because Akkad is obsessed with the films being formulaic and repetitive
Nancy Stephens is great in H20, even though she dies rather unceremoniously in H20 and Halloween Kills, her death in H20 is better handled than in Kills, which was a solid disappointment
Kills was fun and badass. Most brutal and badass Michael Myers ever. I like Kills alot more than H20. Now H20 is a great story. I like the atmosphere of H20 and I really enjoyed Jamie Lee in it. I just hate the Michael Myers mask in H20 and the shitty portrayal of Myers. H20 had by far the weakest Michael Myers. He had no balls. That's mine any many other Halloween fans problem with H20. Don't make Michael Myers weak and vulnerable. That Michael Myers in H20 didn't scare or intimidate me.
@@FervAnimalLover isn't amazing how divided the Halloween fanbase is on movies in the franchise? I and many others love the shit out of Kills. There are many other out there that hate it. It's the same with H20. Outside of a weak Michael in H20 I still enjoy parts of the movie. I know people personally that absolutely hate H20 with a passion.
This is a GREAT view into this film! As a kid growing up near Napa Ca. , I HONESTLY thought this was as Laurie stated “A posh Northern California private school” - it does NOT look like SoCal at all! Props to Miner for making the OTHER Great Halloween movie!!
Fun fact: Michael Myers' performers Chris Durand and Tom Morga (the first half of "HALLOWEEN 4") did stunt work for "THE LOST WORLD: Jurassic Park" with Tom Morga being the stunt double for Jeff Goldblum.
It was mine too. I was like 9 when i saw it but this movie was a big turd looking back. Not scary. Soundtrack was goofy and the actor who played michael didnt have the physicality for it. Fail!
Enjoyed this so much. H20 Is one of my favorite sequels, but I like Laurie Strode’s HALLOWEEN 2018 return the best. It realistically shows the trauma these events could cause a person in real life (or at least in my mind)🤷🏾♂️
See I actually find H20 is more realistic with how it deals with trauma because I feel like more people would try to run and avoid it through drugs and alcohol rather than becoming an absolute machine and making their entire house an elaborate trap
H20 Laurie was much more believable. A functioning addict who tried various avenues of recovery, who was living a semblance of normality but who was haunted by the events 20 years previously. Her relationship with her son was more believable also, and the effect it was having on him. The 2018 Laurie was just OTT, like Linda Hamilton. To top it off, she had even less reason to be like that as there was no familial connection, thus no reason for her to fear Micheal returning, plus Halloween 2 never happened. Overcooked in 2018.
Her trauma would be far more realistic had they not retconned every film, but the original. It's overkill when you really think about it. H20 is a far better interpretation of how the character would've attempted to cope with the events of the franchise, in it's entirety. Halloween Ends just helped galvanize my belief, that being this new trilogy is an absolute embarrassment.
@@thegent8916 and then the complete 180 in her character in this last film? Because she got a haircut?! It makes me laugh. Her daughter and son in law were murdered & Michael's on the loose, but that's much better than when he was incarcerated for 40 years, so it's all grand now! Talk about twisting the character to suit the narrative! If anything it should've been the reverse with her character as these films play out. It would've made more sense. But no....
I feel like the 2018 Laurie would have calmed down like H20. It'd be more sensible if she were an alcoholic wreck rigging traps in a house in 1998, when the trauma was only 20 years old and not 40 years.
I love how thorough this is! I can tell you put a lot of work and soul into making this. H20 is one of my favorite movies. It makes me so happy when people make these kinds of videos ❤️
@@jessycartell1996 Yes, and the guy got a bunch of facts wrong. Lol I prefer Layton's videos. He puts in a ton of effort and they are professionally made. Cheers.
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us dude you sound dumb I saw your comment on his video and he literally argued all your points with facts and you didn’t respond lol he didn’t miss a beat in that video. Sorry bruh you’re wrong
Fantastic! These retrospectives are wonderful. Your piece on The Terminator came up in my feed - and I’m happily taking a trip down memory lane, thanks to your amazing work. Kudos!
This movie is so much more fun than 2018. Its certainly among my favourite of the sequels. And H20 is an awful but also oddly endearing nickname. It has so much more personality that Horror Movie (Year Goes Here).
Still better than the original title they played around with "Halloween 7: The Revenge of Laurie Strode" If it were me, I would just call it "Halloween: Twenty Years Later"
I’ve literally never heard of your channel but I got this video in my recommended & I’m so happy I clicked on it cause you put so much work into this video & I absolutely loved it!! Subscribed!!
This movie came out on my 12th birthday and I remember begging my mom to let me see it. I initially left disappointed because he didn’t kill enough people lol but adulthood eyes showed me all the Easter eggs I missed as a kid. I really love this film. I think this film is Jamie Lee Curtis best portrayal of Laurie Strode. I don’t care for scared Laurie from the first two films or Survivalist Laurie from the latest two films. It’s not flawless but it ranks above most of the sequels to me.
Low and behold, it’s already 25 years old!!! Im happy this is the version that almost matches the 1978 original by John Carpenter giving back a shot of adrenaline Jaime Lee Curtis returns to the role that defined her career after 20 years It’s good because this ditches the convoluted mythology the thorn cult and the daughter storyline making it much simpler You’ve got a very young Josh Hartnett in this, LL Cool J, a young Michelle Williams, and Jodi Lyn O’ Keef It isn’t until after the 50 min mark the thrills start kicking in and it turns into quite the ride Director Steve Miner sticks close enough to the spirit of the older film focusing on Laurie trying to establish herself in a new way but also riding off the popularity of the horror 90’s renaissance They even poke fun at the genre too with fun nods and a cameo by Janet Leigh! Kevin Williamson also produces to make that teen vibe feel fresh and I’m happy Marco Beltrami has his signature score much like the ‘Scream’ even if you hear some familiar tunes because John Ottman actually wanted his own composition The climax is immensely enjoyable because at this point Laurie looks like she’s finally able to make the nightmare end (it’s more character driven than a blood fest) And at the time this was a satisfying conclusion to her story and fans were highly satisfied Curtis became one of the legendary scream queens going from the final girl into a brave heroine not running anymore from her male aggressor facing her demons, no longer letting her horrific past define her Just do yourself a favor and skip 2-6 then ‘Resurrection’, that’s pretty much where the franchise nearly died It’s only 86 min too short but leaves you wanting more thanks to Curtis fully committing to her role against one of the biggest slasher villains As far as follow-ups are concerned this is one of the better ones
Thank you for this video!!! I have been a fan of the original Halloween ever since I first saw it as a child. Throughout my film career I thought it would be so much fun to actually get to work on one of them, then I got the call to come and contribute some special makeup effects to the franchise. It was one of the most fun experiences working on a film! Everyone on the cast and crew were absolutely wonderful to work with and and see my name on the screen credits for this has been one of my happiest moments. My name is Thomas Surprenant, check the credits . I have so many great memories from that show,and thank you again for making this video!!!
@@MLJ7956 Clearly I wasn't too late as you've seen my post and responded to it. That's why RUclips doesn't just delete comments after a week, so that the discussion can continue whenever. Dunno why so many people seem to think "yOu'Re rEpLyInG tO aN oLd cOmMeNt" is some kind of gotcha moment.
I have great memories of taking my mom to see Halloween H20 in the cinema. She was a huge Michael Myers (and John Carpenter) fan. I thought this was a great sequel.
46:56 Actually, the VHS came out in December of 1998 as Disney wanted to cash in on the film's increasing popularity with the Christmas buying season. I received it as a Christmas present that year along with Scream 2.
@@LaytonEversaul No problem. I have been watching these retrospectives and other than that flub, I've been thoroughly entertained and educated on the finer points of franchise. I also love how each video's credits is styled in the font of each film covered. Such creativity is always appreciated.
I love this channel's retrospectives. I usually think I know everything there is to know "Halloween" related, but I always learn stuff I've never heard of on every one of these videos
Hey there, I’m new to the channel. I remember Scream giving this film a new audience. I saw it in pre-everyone-has-the-internet Australia in 99. I really enjoyed it. I studied film a year or two after and was informed this is wrong. I went on to write horror film reviews for the student magazine.
GREAT Job on my FAVE of the Franchise (directly after the Original of course 😜) As a massive fan, Im VERY Saddened to see Josh Hartnett as her son COMPLETELY cut out of the new Movies👎🏻. I need to find a video that explains why that happened. This movie was such a great take off of the 1st and has a place in my heart. Maybe because I turned 21 the year it came out and lived in both Northern Ca as well as LA. Im SHOCKED the School and surrounding town were NOT Filmed up North! They NAILED that Sonoma/ Napa vibe. This made my morning to see! Thank you
My attention span is pretty dreadful these days but this retrospective was absolutely bloody brilliant. I was fully engaged and loving every damn second. Brilliantly researched, narrated, edited. I didn't want it to end! You have a huge talent. I genuinely expected to see your channel have over 100k subs because it would be thoroughly deserved. Well done, mate. I can't wait to look though your channel to see what other slasher delights you have here. 🙌💯
@@LaytonEversaul well, keep 'em coming because this is easily one of the best retrospectives I've ever seen. Watched your Friday Part 2 one last night and I'm about to watch more now. Keep up the awesome work!
it's interesting to see how the concepts and ideas that didn't make final script / final cut share similarity with corey cunningham (copycat, a "new" michael myers). i love that
Another bang up job Layton. I love the amount of effort you put into these documentaries and I appreciate the level of professionalism displayed here. You would think DVD companies would hire you to add another layer of knowledge and interest to classic film releases. Once again, thank you!!
30:48 I can kind of attest to this. Saw this film at a sold out AMC movie theater and me and my older sister were the only white people there, with it mostly being black female's in the audience. When the dude unknowingly shoots LL Cool J thinking it was Michael, i thought there was going to be a riot in the theater. I've never seen people get so upset over a movie scene before
Josh should’ve took over the franchise but it’s understandably hard to make a horror series w/ a male lead, especially one known for being centered around its female lead.
Love all these videos!!! One nitpick though, the CGI mask was originally the "Alien mask", not Buechler's slightly reworked H6. This is evident by the hair and the much smaller, far less detailed ears on the mask. You cant miss the ears on the H6, lol.
@@travzimmerman1340 Not everyone thinks the same, I mean, yes is not like the best movie of the world and I agree with you on that. Just saying that because of the environment of 20 years has passed, it has that feeling (at least for me) like those series when making a reunion after many years of their last ep! But, I do respect your opinion.
I love fictional school setting in this film. Halloweens 4 and 5 have the best atmosphere of all the films, setting-wise. It actually looks like the Midwest and INCORPORATES HALLOWEEN. (Seriously, I hate how obvious it is in the original that adding the holiday was just a gimmick. Everyone is babysitting, but none of the kids are trick-or-treating? GTFO!) But aside from those 2, the Canfield-Moreno Estate provides a backdrop that is equally gorgeous and spooky. It's convincingly isolated, and the gates, hallways, and dumbwaiter all make for great set pieces. The Canfield-Morena Estate is also used as Roman's mansion in Scream 3. The courtyard seen in H20 is where the pool is located. It's covered up in H20 and looks like a cement yard.
Haven't seen this film yet but thought I'd mention the THE ARCHERS PUB IN GIDEA PARK was full of good looking birds on Sunday all watching the 😮England game !!!
Hey I love Halloween H20! Yes it has its downfalls and issues but it was great seeing Jamie Lee Curtis back in her prominent role as a more mature Laurie Strode! I only wish H2O had tied in the previous storyline with her daughter Jamie Lloyd as it has suggested in the earlier draft before release! It would have acknowledged that Laurie did infact have a daughter before faking her own death and assuming a new identity! I was very confused at the time when the film was released. But today it is definitely a beloved movie that lives in my horror collection!
This is the first Halloween movie I was able to see in theaters and what made me a fan of the series. It'd be nice to get an official release of the FX TV cut and/or workprint version like they did in 2012 for Halloween II. If I had to guess, Scream Factory would include 1 of them as a special feature if they continue to make 4K releases of the franchise as well as the inevitable collection re-release once Ends comes out.
A new Layton video I haven't clicked faster in my life! BTW anyone else remember Jodi Lynn O Keefe in The I'll fated Crow Salvation. Layton you should consider doing the 4 Crow films! Anyhow I appreciate all the hard work & research you put into you video's keep up the fantastic work.
Corrections for The Story of Halloween: H20 ...
- John Carl Buechler was not a founding member of KNB effects
- The picture of the knife in the Fun Fact is the wrong knife
So it wasn't Michael Myers but a security guard who had his throat crushed by Michael leaving the security guard unable to speak! What? He couldn't write on a piece of paper he wasn't Michael Myers?
@@leejohnstone4663 It was a paramedic and if you've seen the movie or at least the ending, it shows the paramedic dressed as Michael being zipped up in a body bag before being put in the coroners van, Michael clearly knocked him out or thought he had killed him which is when he changed clothes with him, besides if he was conscious enough to write a note then he would've been able to take his mask off to alert folk that he wasn't Michael
@@misslaura199 Which explains why Halloween Resurrection was so stupid and pointless. H20 was a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 (twenty years later) was the caption use to promote the movie. Halloween H20 is where the franchise should have ended. By having Laurie killing Michael along with making H20 a direct sequel to Halloween 1978 book ends the franchise.
@@leejohnstone4663 You're totally right Ressurection was just awful there are so many things wrong with that movie mainly the unbelievable way they killed off Laurie, even her stunt double said she didn't believe it was possible for Laurie to be killed off that quickly and so easily but unfortunately Jamie Lee wanted to cut all her ties with Halloween at the time and the late Moustapha Akkad had made sure it was written in to all of the Halloween contracts that Michael was never to be killed because that was the intention with several drafts for H20 Michael always died in all of them but Moustapha was very protective of the character and wanted Michael to remain alive so they could continue doing sequels
@@misslaura199 Trouble with the horror genre is the countless and pointless sequels
A 56 minute retrospective on an 86 minute movie, I love it. Awesome work as always mate, keep it up.
Haha Thanks!
I look at the series as only having three movies, Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20.. where the shape is finally killed. Every series needs a definitive ending.
Josh was 19 when a Halloween film catapulted him to stardom. Jamie was also 19 when the same happened.
I miss him, the faculty even cheesy as it is, is one of my favorite movies. He's very picky about the roles he takes anymore.
I think he’s overrated. Looks half asleep in everything 😂
You rmom was 19 when she had you. Your dad was 39
Definitely was not "catapulted into stardom" lol. He faded away pretty quickly and never cut it is as a leading man. Also, Trading Places is what truly launched Jamie's career.
That’s freaking amazing. I didn’t even know that. 😮🎉🎉
Perfect way to start off the year than with an awesome retrospective of the movie that honestly made me a fan of horror movies, everytime I watch the scene when Laurie/Keri grabs the fire axe and screams "Michael", I instantly get chillbumps.
No explanation where he was for 20 years no burn marks eyes in tact I ll still take it over woke shit 2018 freaking studio interference
@@gkroll8467 have you seen this one? ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
SAME
I watch the 1978 original & H20 back to back every Halloween. It's became a tradition
I much prefer the Laurie in this movie than the 2018 version. It was more realistic that she’d be traumatised and an alcoholic than living in the woods shooting rifles with a hidden trap in her basement. H2O is very of its time but very fun and well acted.
Yep, Laurie in this movie is much more believable, plus her relationship with her son. It's done so much better than 2018 which kinda makes no sense.
Huh
@@therealmyers7826 2018 obviously! Edited....
Fully agree and I think its Crap they ditched any mention of a son when he didnt come back for the sad 2018 version. Even if she later had a daughter they could’ve kept his Character in the story. H20 was the LAST movie imho
I agree! Though I like 2018 way more than H20 I do agree that Laurie is H20 was more like the Laurie strode in 1978
H20 was so good at the time when Janet Leigh drove up in the psycho car and offered "Lori motherly advice", the whole theatre erupted in clapping and shouts and went wild. I watch Halloween and H20 back to back. I ignore all the others. I've seen them all but none matter at all to me but those two. And yes I saw the original in the theatre and it was beyond horrifying. Great video!!
Halloween 2 is underrated. All the JLC ones except Halloween Kills are excellent (Don't count resurrection, as it's a cameo, as she is no longer dead) and worthy of mention.
Didn't he say this movie was released exclusively on vhs so they didn't take a chance of bombing the box office?
@@Son-Of-David1990 It was originally going to until JLC signed on.
You’re ignoring some better movies with 2 and 4. This is a made-for-tv Halloween movie.
Ditto. The original n H20 r my favorite n only two I rewatch each year.
While I definitely enjoyed the parts of Halloween 2018, I definitely prefer H2O. My preferred Laurie Strode trilogy is the original Halloween, Halloween 2, and Halloween H2O.
The moment Laurie locks the gate behind her to confront Michael and screams his name and the theme music starts playing gives me chills every time. It's my absolute favorite moment of the entire franchise.
I never understood how this film could acknowledge Halloween 2 but ignore that Michael died. We literally see his body on fire and him collapsing, still burning. No way in hell did he survive that, especially without massive scarring.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that's really my only criticism. I like the fact that at least Halloween 4 showed Michael's hands with burn scars.
I wish H20 had done that too.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 that’s how I always felt. Like how was he gonna just walk away from that before anybody got to him. It could be said though that the explosion blew Loomis and Michael away and Michael only suffered minor injuries and wasn’t set on fire and Laurie just imagined seeing Michael on fire. That’s a possibility that would explain Michael still being alive but it kinda doesn’t work. I heard that the director originally intended this to be a sequel to the original only, but kept II in continuity because of the sibling aspect, which, thinking about it, could’ve still been kept because if they were siblings in the second one they were in the first one the audience and Laurie just didn’t know it yet. I just think the filmmakers and writers just put something together and brought JLC back and called it an anniversary film. None of the filmmakers after 4 really cared about storyline nor continuity. That’s my take.
@@orinanime Exactly
Great points!
I love H20. I feel like it was a great rap up to the story of Laurie. Showing her coping with PTSD and how that affected her relationship with her son in between the scares was really compelling to me.
Man bro this channel gold. I could listen to you talk about anything for hours
This is the first horror movie I ever remember watching as a kid. It scared the shit out of me and I had to turn it off, but rewatched it again a little later and made it all the way through... A horror fan was created that day.
I thought I was reading my own words hahaha that's EXACTLY what happened to me, I was scared shitless but with a resurgence of curiosity, then when I got to watch it later as a whole it was so good, won't ever forget this.
Whoever thinks this movie is terrible hasnt seen the next one lol
The next one never happened to me
@@bekindrewind335 the only one that’s worse than Resurrection is Halloween 5
@@bekindrewind335I can agree that Halloween Ends and Rob Zombies were trash too
Or Halloween 3 or Halloween Ends. 😂
@@ryandeffley7652Halloween 3 was good.
A perfect retrospective on a wonderful Halloween film, I think I still like this one just a little better than the 2018 one
Of course.. Halloween 2018 is garbage
@@florifatsarino2982 your to kind 2018 is below garbage
@@florifatsarino2982 2018 was really good, the one that I though was bad was kills
I enjoyed h2o for what it was. It was fun. But it’s supposed to be a horror movie. But I never thought it was scary at all. But the actors performances saved it all in my opinion
You should check out the H20 revisit ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
This was one my favorite Halloween movies! Love the great cast, actually one of my favorite casts out of all the films, and was similar in the scare factor that Halloween 1 and 2 offered. Loved the set design and the fact the Janet Leigh played in the film along side her daughter. I thought the whole film was a 8 out of 10.
I So Agree!!
1, 2 & H20 make a great story!
@@jamesw.pickering2967yes!!! That’s my fav trilogy
@jamesw.pickering2967 After Halloween Ends couldn't stick the landing I gotta say this is the superior trilogy
The work that has gone into this video is brilliant, Layton! Bravo, Sir!
Crazy seeing you here, had no idea you liked Halloween channels
Thank you very much! I'm just obsessive.
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Easy thirsty boy
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Ugh... the obligatory "fAnCy SeEiNg YoU hErE" every time another RUclipsr appears in the comment section. As if it's such a strange notion that RUclipsr's have interests outside of the content they create 🙄
@@Bubba__Sawyer it was crazy!
H2O is really good IMO. The whole storyline and characters are good, the school setting worked well and had its own creepiness. Laurie rox, Jamie Lee and Janet Leigh are goddesses!
24:52 did they do a reference to Rocky Horror when Jamie says “Damn it” when she bumps into Janet
“Damn it….Janet”lol
Great video. Never bought the whole ending of H20 that it was really the paramedic with a crushed larynx. All he had to do was use the hand he reached out to Laurie with to pull off the mask to reveal the true identity. And why would he even reach out to Laurie in the first place. Not a clever compromise as everyone thinks.
That “ explanation” was not part of H20! Is was cheaply made last minute on Resurrection to explain why Resurrection exists lol legally Michael Myers cannot die permanently! Which is the downside of policies for Halloween Franchise.
Well naturally enough wouldn't anyone reach out to help them if they were in a lot of pain?
@@josephprendergast2 Sure but I think anyone's first inclination would be to take off the mask that's on their face
@@mikeymiketheplaya5792 Not if your Michael Myers or some crazy psycho serial killer 😅
@@dreamlovermimi9458I dunno it seems like when they turned Myers corpse into ground beef in Halloween Ends that was rather definitive. But I get what you mean, it was a cheap tacked on last second shooting to lay the groundwork for Resurrection. Because Akkad is obsessed with the films being formulaic and repetitive
Nancy Stephens is great in H20, even though she dies rather unceremoniously in H20 and Halloween Kills, her death in H20 is better handled than in Kills, which was a solid disappointment
Kills was fun and badass. Most brutal and badass Michael Myers ever. I like Kills alot more than H20. Now H20 is a great story. I like the atmosphere of H20 and I really enjoyed Jamie Lee in it. I just hate the Michael Myers mask in H20 and the shitty portrayal of Myers. H20 had by far the weakest Michael Myers. He had no balls. That's mine any many other Halloween fans problem with H20. Don't make Michael Myers weak and vulnerable. That Michael Myers in H20 didn't scare or intimidate me.
@@jskypercussion Kills was horrible!
@@jskypercussion Halloween Kills was a horrible, bottom of the barrel movie. Just dreadful
@@FervAnimalLover isn't amazing how divided the Halloween fanbase is on movies in the franchise? I and many others love the shit out of Kills. There are many other out there that hate it. It's the same with H20. Outside of a weak Michael in H20 I still enjoy parts of the movie. I know people personally that absolutely hate H20 with a passion.
@@jskypercussion Nah, Halloween Kills is a pretty bad film
This is a GREAT view into this film! As a kid growing up near Napa Ca. , I HONESTLY thought this was as Laurie stated “A posh Northern California private school” - it does NOT look like SoCal at all! Props to Miner for making the OTHER Great Halloween movie!!
This was an awesome watch, glad this got recommended!
Fun fact:
Michael Myers' performers Chris Durand and Tom Morga (the first half of "HALLOWEEN 4") did stunt work for "THE LOST WORLD: Jurassic Park" with Tom Morga being the stunt double for Jeff Goldblum.
H20 has a special place in my heart in being the first R rated movie I saw in the theaters. I was 15 at the time.
It was mine too. I was like 9 when i saw it but this movie was a big turd looking back. Not scary. Soundtrack was goofy and the actor who played michael didnt have the physicality for it. Fail!
Great job on this one, Layton.
Enjoyed this so much. H20 Is one of my favorite sequels, but I like Laurie Strode’s HALLOWEEN 2018 return the best. It realistically shows the trauma these events could cause a person in real life (or at least in my mind)🤷🏾♂️
See I actually find H20 is more realistic with how it deals with trauma because I feel like more people would try to run and avoid it through drugs and alcohol rather than becoming an absolute machine and making their entire house an elaborate trap
H20 Laurie was much more believable. A functioning addict who tried various avenues of recovery, who was living a semblance of normality but who was haunted by the events 20 years previously. Her relationship with her son was more believable also, and the effect it was having on him. The 2018 Laurie was just OTT, like Linda Hamilton. To top it off, she had even less reason to be like that as there was no familial connection, thus no reason for her to fear Micheal returning, plus Halloween 2 never happened. Overcooked in 2018.
Her trauma would be far more realistic had they not retconned every film, but the original. It's overkill when you really think about it. H20 is a far better interpretation of how the character would've attempted to cope with the events of the franchise, in it's entirety. Halloween Ends just helped galvanize my belief, that being this new trilogy is an absolute embarrassment.
@@thegent8916 and then the complete 180 in her character in this last film? Because she got a haircut?! It makes me laugh. Her daughter and son in law were murdered & Michael's on the loose, but that's much better than when he was incarcerated for 40 years, so it's all grand now! Talk about twisting the character to suit the narrative! If anything it should've been the reverse with her character as these films play out. It would've made more sense. But no....
I feel like the 2018 Laurie would have calmed down like H20. It'd be more sensible if she were an alcoholic wreck rigging traps in a house in 1998, when the trauma was only 20 years old and not 40 years.
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“Blockbuster video, yeah!!”
I love how thorough this is! I can tell you put a lot of work and soul into making this. H20 is one of my favorite movies. It makes me so happy when people make these kinds of videos ❤️
Thank you!
Woke up a little while ago and happy to take this in... Happy New year
i loved the "Hobbling" reference when mentioning Jamie Lee Curtis's stunt double broke her foot. Perfect!
so many fantastic insights that I wasn’t aware off !!!
That's my goal!
was so excited when the trailer for this video dropped, love a good long retrospective on a halloween movie. great way to start the year
Your videos are fantastic, dude. Amazing effort on research, editing and overall presentation. Keep up the great work!
You ever seen this one? ruclips.net/video/dKm4CxP5ZT0/видео.html
@@jessycartell1996 Yes, and the guy got a bunch of facts wrong. Lol I prefer Layton's videos. He puts in a ton of effort and they are professionally made.
Cheers.
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us what facts did he get wrong?
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us dude you sound dumb I saw your comment on his video and he literally argued all your points with facts and you didn’t respond lol he didn’t miss a beat in that video. Sorry bruh you’re wrong
The work you do in these retrospectives is truly amazing. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
oh, wow! i’m a HUGE halloween fan. i thought i knew everything about this franchise. thank you so so much for not repeating what’s already out there!!
I watched this so much on VHS, couldn't really see the picture that great anymore 😛
Fantastic! These retrospectives are wonderful. Your piece on The Terminator came up in my feed - and I’m happily taking a trip down memory lane, thanks to your amazing work. Kudos!
Awesome, thank you!
Another awesome video man, you never disappoint! I have always loved H20!
H20 gets overlooked now as a Scream clone, but it was SO refreshing at the time! I wanted to stand up and cheer when it was over.
It's a shame too because there would be no "Scream" if there was not "Halloween" to begin with.
@PlusUltraAdrian in scream they watched halloween. In halloween h20 they watched scream 2.
This movie is so much more fun than 2018. Its certainly among my favourite of the sequels. And H20 is an awful but also oddly endearing nickname. It has so much more personality that Horror Movie (Year Goes Here).
Still better than the original title they played around with "Halloween 7: The Revenge of Laurie Strode" If it were me, I would just call it "Halloween: Twenty Years Later"
You don't upload often but then again...Quality takes time!
Happy new year Layton 😀
Thanks! Same to you!
Now this is what a call a great belated Christmas present.
I’ve literally never heard of your channel but I got this video in my recommended & I’m so happy I clicked on it cause you put so much work into this video & I absolutely loved it!! Subscribed!!
Wow, I thought you'd just never heard of his channel...I didn't know you LITERALLY never heard of his channel.
I had metaphorically speaking never heard of this channel before so I get you
oh ya i always loved how michael dropped in from the ceiling
It’s the best sequel so far: best cast, solid story, fast paced and with references to the original.
46:42 agreed, it's also my 2nd favorite Halloween movie.
Thank you for the review. This part deserves to be classic.
This movie came out on my 12th birthday and I remember begging my mom to let me see it. I initially left disappointed because he didn’t kill enough people lol but adulthood eyes showed me all the Easter eggs I missed as a kid. I really love this film. I think this film is Jamie Lee Curtis best portrayal of Laurie Strode. I don’t care for scared Laurie from the first two films or Survivalist Laurie from the latest two films. It’s not flawless but it ranks above most of the sequels to me.
Low and behold, it’s already 25 years old!!!
Im happy this is the version that almost matches the 1978 original by John Carpenter giving back a shot of adrenaline
Jaime Lee Curtis returns to the role that defined her career after 20 years
It’s good because this ditches the convoluted mythology the thorn cult and the daughter storyline making it much simpler
You’ve got a very young Josh Hartnett in this, LL Cool J, a young Michelle Williams, and Jodi Lyn O’ Keef
It isn’t until after the 50 min mark the thrills start kicking in and it turns into quite the ride
Director Steve Miner sticks close enough to the spirit of the older film focusing on Laurie trying to establish herself in a new way but also riding off the popularity of the horror 90’s renaissance
They even poke fun at the genre too with fun nods and a cameo by Janet Leigh!
Kevin Williamson also produces to make that teen vibe feel fresh and I’m happy Marco Beltrami has his signature score much like the ‘Scream’ even if you hear some familiar tunes because John Ottman actually wanted his own composition
The climax is immensely enjoyable because at this point Laurie looks like she’s finally able to make the nightmare end (it’s more character driven than a blood fest)
And at the time this was a satisfying conclusion to her story and fans were highly satisfied
Curtis became one of the legendary scream queens going from the final girl into a brave heroine not running anymore from her male aggressor facing her demons, no longer letting her horrific past define her
Just do yourself a favor and skip 2-6 then ‘Resurrection’, that’s pretty much where the franchise nearly died
It’s only 86 min too short but leaves you wanting more thanks to Curtis fully committing to her role against one of the biggest slasher villains
As far as follow-ups are concerned this is one of the better ones
YES!! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK! Yes!
I still think they should have ended the franchise with this one. It had the perfect ending with Laurie cutting Michael's head off.
Thank you for this video!!! I have been a fan of the original Halloween ever since I first saw it as a child. Throughout my film career I thought it would be so much fun to actually get to work on one of them, then I got the call to come and contribute some special makeup effects to the franchise. It was one of the most fun experiences working on a film!
Everyone on the cast and crew were absolutely wonderful to work with and and see my name on the screen credits for this has been one of my happiest moments.
My name is Thomas Surprenant, check the credits .
I have so many great memories from that show,and thank you again for making this video!!!
That's awesome! You have my envy.
H20 most similar sequel to H78 & Hll, one of my favorites!
been waiting for new content, would like to see one on Back to the Future trilogy. great job
Those are inevitable.
@@LaytonEversaul - Then get to it already, lol 😆
@@MLJ7956 Don't be rude. He's not obligated to fulfill requests and he's not on a schedule.
@@Bubba__Sawyer - You're 7 months too late in responding. Old news. FYI, and it was in jest humor. Did you not see the lol & laugh emoji???
@@MLJ7956 Clearly I wasn't too late as you've seen my post and responded to it. That's why RUclips doesn't just delete comments after a week, so that the discussion can continue whenever.
Dunno why so many people seem to think "yOu'Re rEpLyInG tO aN oLd cOmMeNt" is some kind of gotcha moment.
H20 is one of my favorites!!
This was my first very own horror film I owned on VHS
I was around 12 at the time, loved it 👌🏼
I have great memories of taking my mom to see Halloween H20 in the cinema. She was a huge Michael Myers (and John Carpenter) fan. I thought this was a great sequel.
Without sounding insensitive was she still alive for 2018s? What were her views on that?
@@rodgerkehl8399 She has seen the new ones. Even took her to the Cape Fear Community College to be an extra in the hospital scenes. She loved them.
@@wstine79 omg that’s amazing! I think I prefer H20 to 2018, but I loved Kills
Wonderful video! H20 Was one of my favorite time goin to the movies with my brother. Miss you bro.
46:56 Actually, the VHS came out in December of 1998 as Disney wanted to cash in on the film's increasing popularity with the Christmas buying season. I received it as a Christmas present that year along with Scream 2.
Thanks for the correction!
@@LaytonEversaul No problem. I have been watching these retrospectives and other than that flub, I've been thoroughly entertained and educated on the finer points of franchise. I also love how each video's credits is styled in the font of each film covered. Such creativity is always appreciated.
Not even half way thru watching this and I’m already hooked!
This is the best Halloween film ever made & I will die on that hill. Jamie Lee is fantastic, really delves deep into Laurie’s psyche.
I love this channel's retrospectives. I usually think I know everything there is to know "Halloween" related, but I always learn stuff I've never heard of on every one of these videos
Wonderful job, you always pick the best movies to cover. Love it.
Hey there, I’m new to the channel. I remember Scream giving this film a new audience. I saw it in pre-everyone-has-the-internet Australia in 99. I really enjoyed it. I studied film a year or two after and was informed this is wrong. I went on to write horror film reviews for the student magazine.
GREAT Job on my FAVE of the Franchise (directly after the Original of course 😜)
As a massive fan, Im VERY Saddened to see Josh Hartnett as her son COMPLETELY cut out of the new Movies👎🏻. I need to find a video that explains why that happened. This movie was such a great take off of the 1st and has a place in my heart. Maybe because I turned 21 the year it came out and lived in both Northern Ca as well as LA. Im SHOCKED the School and surrounding town were NOT Filmed up North! They NAILED that Sonoma/ Napa vibe. This made my morning to see! Thank you
Thank you so much, Layton. This incredible video. I love your look at the Halloween films through the retrospective.
My attention span is pretty dreadful these days but this retrospective was absolutely bloody brilliant. I was fully engaged and loving every damn second. Brilliantly researched, narrated, edited. I didn't want it to end! You have a huge talent.
I genuinely expected to see your channel have over 100k subs because it would be thoroughly deserved. Well done, mate. I can't wait to look though your channel to see what other slasher delights you have here. 🙌💯
Thank you! I like to think improve a little with each video.
@@LaytonEversaul well, keep 'em coming because this is easily one of the best retrospectives I've ever seen. Watched your Friday Part 2 one last night and I'm about to watch more now. Keep up the awesome work!
it's interesting to see how the concepts and ideas that didn't make final script / final cut share similarity with corey cunningham (copycat, a "new" michael myers). i love that
Outstanding doc, Layton 👍
Thank you!
Another bang up job Layton. I love the amount of effort you put into these documentaries and I appreciate the level of professionalism displayed here. You would think DVD companies would hire you to add another layer of knowledge and interest to classic film releases. Once again, thank you!!
Good catch!
Another brilliant video. I always look forward to your content.
I’ve been waiting for this for such a long time. Perfect way to start the year
30:48 I can kind of attest to this. Saw this film at a sold out AMC movie theater and me and my older sister were the only white people there, with it mostly being black female's in the audience. When the dude unknowingly shoots LL Cool J thinking it was Michael, i thought there was going to be a riot in the theater. I've never seen people get so upset over a movie scene before
Josh should’ve took over the franchise but it’s understandably hard to make a horror series w/ a male lead, especially one known for being centered around its female lead.
Love all these videos!!! One nitpick though, the CGI mask was originally the "Alien mask", not Buechler's slightly reworked H6. This is evident by the hair and the much smaller, far less detailed ears on the mask. You cant miss the ears on the H6, lol.
Halloween H20 is the best from all the movie franchise! Really good plot and a decent confrontation between Laurie and Michael.
In reality, H20 is one of the worst films in the franchise.
@@travzimmerman1340 Not everyone thinks the same, I mean, yes is not like the best movie of the world and I agree with you on that. Just saying that because of the environment of 20 years has passed, it has that feeling (at least for me) like those series when making a reunion after many years of their last ep! But, I do respect your opinion.
@travzimmerman1340 Well, let's see, it's better than:
Halloween 3
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween 6
Halloween resurrection
Halloween 2018
Halloween Kills
Halloween Ends
Yup. Just about covers it.
I love fictional school setting in this film. Halloweens 4 and 5 have the best atmosphere of all the films, setting-wise. It actually looks like the Midwest and INCORPORATES HALLOWEEN. (Seriously, I hate how obvious it is in the original that adding the holiday was just a gimmick. Everyone is babysitting, but none of the kids are trick-or-treating? GTFO!) But aside from those 2, the Canfield-Moreno Estate provides a backdrop that is equally gorgeous and spooky. It's convincingly isolated, and the gates, hallways, and dumbwaiter all make for great set pieces.
The Canfield-Morena Estate is also used as Roman's mansion in Scream 3. The courtyard seen in H20 is where the pool is located. It's covered up in H20 and looks like a cement yard.
I mean this as a compliment number one red letter media, Number 2 Oliver Harper , and 3 Layton
So well researched, I love this content
I remember Being old enough to get excited for and to me it did not disappoint
Malek Akkad even confirmed that it was Jamies idea to make H20 a big theatrical release instead of a straight to video
Where u been!? Good to have u back
That Tony Soprano cameo was hilarious
All I gotta say is your documentary was amazing! Great job and happy new year!
Thanks! Same to you!
Awesome stuff man. I really enjoyed it. Love the editing
I'd love to see a Layton retrospective on Scream itself. I've revisited these Halloween 4-7 videos so many times haha 🤣
This was a really good retrospect of H20. Have to check out your previous videos. Thanks for the share and Happy New Year.
19:20 I actually thought about how the theme and score had an epic music/orchestra sound and less John Carpenter synth
Really great retrospective. Even though I only rate the original film, it's always interesting to find out about the development of the sequels.
Wow! These are great and super interesting! I love these retrospectives of the Halloween films. Keep it up.
This video is nearly as long as the movie and I'm here for it
As a fan of the series and someone who has ADHD, this held my attention from start to finish. I appreciate the love you've put into this. 🤗
Thats funny That Jamie Lee Curtis' Mothers Boys movie poster was at the video store in Scream..lol
Haven't seen this film yet but thought I'd mention the THE ARCHERS PUB IN GIDEA PARK was full of good looking birds on Sunday all watching the 😮England game !!!
Hey I love Halloween H20! Yes it has its downfalls and issues but it was great seeing Jamie Lee Curtis back in her prominent role as a more mature Laurie Strode! I only wish H2O had tied in the previous storyline with her daughter Jamie Lloyd as it has suggested in the earlier draft before release! It would have acknowledged that Laurie did infact have a daughter before faking her own death and assuming a new identity! I was very confused at the time when the film was released. But today it is definitely a beloved movie that lives in my horror collection!
This is the first Halloween movie I was able to see in theaters and what made me a fan of the series. It'd be nice to get an official release of the FX TV cut and/or workprint version like they did in 2012 for Halloween II. If I had to guess, Scream Factory would include 1 of them as a special feature if they continue to make 4K releases of the franchise as well as the inevitable collection re-release once Ends comes out.
Happy New Year Layton and thanks for another great video. I only watched this film again recently.
Happy New Year!
A new Layton video I haven't clicked faster in my life!
BTW anyone else remember Jodi Lynn O Keefe in The I'll fated Crow Salvation.
Layton you should consider doing the 4 Crow films!
Anyhow I appreciate all the hard work & research you put into you video's keep up the fantastic work.
Awesome retrospect on, in my opinion a wildly underrated entry in this franchise 🎃💯
I love all of your long retrospectives. You do a great job and hope you keep doing more. 👍