THIS HIDDEN Muscle Created Trey’s TOS! (Guess How I Found It)
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Wow. This is amazing. As someone who's struggled with chronic pain and TOS for years, it's reassuring to see a knowledgeable practitioner discover a missing piece and give specific steps for relief! So inspiring!
I recently found your channel and appreciate your TOS videos so much. It's so generous of you to do a free assessment and coaching call. I just submitted an application and would be so grateful if you decided I was a good fit. Thank you for everything you do!! Without a doubt, you are helping people change and improve the quality of their lives! 💖
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're finding it useful!
Literally everything this guy describes are the exact symptoms that I also suffer from. Inability to activate lower traps, biceps, dullness/numbness in traps, tingling/pins-and-needles into pinkies and ring fingers and pain in upper traps radiating down behind shoulder blade into arms, as well as elbow pain in both elbows. Glad this guy is taking steps to heal. It would be cool to get video updates on this guys healing process and the steps he's taken towards recovery. I bet a bunch of us who suffer from TOS or similar pain would find hope seeing another person's recovery process to figure out the steps to to start our own recovery journey. Been living with this pain with moments of peace and then intense moments of flare ups for a few years, and your videos have really helped. if your clients are willing to share their video meetings with you, especially Trey's, that would be awesome.
I’ll def try to get a follow up with him soon. Last time I talked to him, he was doing much better and it took roughly 2 weeks to get good progress
@@TrainandMassageany further update specifically on some best practice exercises he did? Also just discovered this amazing video. He describes the exact symptoms many of us have (as I read it)!
Love your a approach to TOS. I dont have it but I have a some tightness in these muscles.
I'd love to see a whiplash protocol in the future 👍
Thank you for your support! Ill def see what I can do!
This video is amazing. The conversations between you and the guy really help us to understand what might be the cause and what to look for.
Thank you, I’m happy to hear that!
Mine started the day after I decided to get back into weight training. I did an upper body workout, nothing crazy just some pushups, curls, tricep exts, and dips, and then I went to the park and did some pullups. The next day my whole right side was a wreck but my left side was chill??... I also noticed that I can only do half the tricep extensions on the left side compared to my right side which feels stronger
I think it's this outlet thing, my right side is dropped too 😲
Right side dropped is most likely from being righty… most likely
Thank You 🙏🏼 Thank You 🙏🏼 Thank You 🔥 🔥 Finally someone who understands 2years of this damn pain 😢…My issue started due to holding the phone w/o moving….all his symptoms I Felt as well 🔥 🙏🏼 🙏🏼 I’ve been working on my posture a lot ‼️💯
You're welcome! Im glad it helped!
I had exactly the same issue and found a great physio who spent over an hour doing really deep tissue massage and scraping the adhesions that had built up over many of years which was the most painful thing I have ever been through but the relief at the end was amazing
Having pain like that Def sounds right! Haha. Keep your physio because they sound like a rare keeper 🫡🦾
How are you doing? Your physio doesn’t happen to be in FL does he/she?😊
@lw7654 No , I live in Australia
Figures. ☺@@jeffmonin6920
Healing will be with you.
Thank you for this video.
I was diagnosed with TOS in 2005 from UCLA @Gonda Goldsmith department, surgeries after surgeries including pectoralis minor, rib resection, wing scapula.
I was suspecting the LTN or my long thoracic nerve was damage during Labrum and shoulder surgery.
Long and behold in late 2023 Vascular surgeons agreed that LTN contributed to TOS symptoms. 😊
Thank you for your support!
@@TrainandMassage you are most welcome.
Can I share your video?
yes you can, thank you!@@mmirafuentess1990
@@TrainandMassage thank you, I appreciate you.
So if the doctors would have focused on the LTN, you wouldn’t have needed that surgery???
Whoo hoo first to comment. Everything you say makes complete sense. At the moment the inner bicep is definitely tight on me and it's been contributing more to my symptoms. every day is different, feels like different muscles contribute in different ratios to the symptoms. Your helping me understanding this issue. Best source on tos on the internet!
Thank you for your support! That deep bicep muscle is a problem on a lot of people. Keep up the self care! 🦾🫡
Love from india....sir exact problem since 2018 when i was preparing for IIT exam.....
And still not cured i have spented more tham i earned....for defferent defferent docters.......but i got 0 benefits.......
I have tight jaw and brain problem as well i feel like tight temporal area and feel foggy to think......
you are doing a great job. I think i have TOS. it started about 2 months ago. I was doing some exercise for my shoulder and chest. I have numbness, pain, burning and tingling and needles from my fingers till elbow. at night it gets worse. i don't have pain around my neck or shoulder yet. and some burning around elbow. please guide me. thank you in advance @Train and Massage
Talk to your doctor first. I have other videos on this as well.
Get a chest CT done young man. Sounds like you’re describing axillary lymphadenopathy. I have it and exactly the same cluster of symptoms you describe. It contributes to my TOS and definitely aggravates it during flare ups. If it is lymphadenopathy, you really want to rule out breast cancer. Yes men can get it.
The info in this vid is so helpful. Thank you. Much appreciated. Starting to make a diff and gives hope and better understanding.
Glad it was helpful! 🫡🦾
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You’re awesome just discovered you today, thanks! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you for your support! 🫡🦾
Watching this while use my TENS machine for my TOS. 😊desperately trying to avoid surgery but seems their alot of tissue causing severe chest and nerve compressions so surgery seems its needed to release the scar tissue as no PT works. Its making me worse as everything so stuck and affecting my lympnodes up neck with congestion
A good sports massage therapist can help release those tissues
@@TrainandMassage Thankyou. Yes i have massage by myrotherpaist but helps with some blood flow and takes edge off but couple hrs later im back at square one again. Its expensive when cant get any longef term relief
Thanks Adam!
this is really very helpful
I’m happy to hear that!
I am experiencing exactly what he describes. Just numbness in rear delt (tingly weak feeling) going down into the triceps and biceps sometimes. Have trouble engaging the lats. Seems like the traps, shoulder, and neck muscles are very tight, perhaps from compensating on heavy lifts like bench press and such. Trying to open up my pec minor too since I have some shoulder rounding going on. The more I feel around though the more it feels like tight traps and neck are causing an unatural motion of the arms which is affecting the whole system
Try massaging those muscles out. Trigger points can create all of those different issues.
Looks like his hip is constricted also. He needs bodywork from his feet all the way up to his neck and from his arm all the way up to his spine,. his body is out of alignment, I would suggest swimming getting in the Jacuzzi and then getting in the cold pool. For pain afterwards. If one foot is longer than the other, which normally will happen when your body is out of alignment start with calf stretches, and you’re gonna have to work your way up can’t concentrate on one part of your body because every muscle was connected to anothermuscle. So you need stretching and massage and bodywork from your feet all the way up to your neck and possibly your head and it’s for pain. You have to use ice or get in the swimming pool and just numb yourself for 20 minutes. No longer might take six months or longer. You can get yourself a body cane like a body buddy, and if you knew what you were doing, you could help yourself that way stretching is gonna be your best bet. Also get yourself some of those Asian tools for scraping as you’re going to have to get into those muscles really deep the ones you can reach. I would suggest looking at a lot of videos before you start trying to do it yourself especially If you can’t afford going to a physical therapist or a good deep massage therapist.
i noticed all the pain in my traps , shoulders, and back comes from a tight chest. when i push my thumb into my chest the pain goes away
You might be releasing the pecs, which then releases tension on everything else. Not sure, just a guess. I’m glad it worked! 🦾🫡
Wouldn't the pec minor work with the coracobrachialis and bicep and pull everything forward? My compression has been pinpointed to the pec minor which is full of golf balls and bass guitar chord like soft tissue. It also is making my scapula dysfunctional.
Yes they would work together.
This is what I am thinking.
I also have the some symptoms as trey. but the major area i feel the pain is my forearm flexors and extensors triceps and lat. my posterior neck, scm and scalienes are always tight and sore. when i get a massage i have TRP everywhere in my upper back.
thanks how often do you do privet client calls?
Thanks for the comment, I do private calls when I have space for clients.
I believe this is what I have. A lot of stretches seem to help. I do notice that when I bring my arm backwards laterally, I have a very tight nerve (I think) that runs from my armpit to my elbow which causes sharp and tingling pain. When I do the chin tucks I can feel a sharp pain from my collar bone to armpit and then numbness to my fingers. I also feel a sharp pain in my serrated anterior muscle on the same side this will come and go. Please help!!!! I have diabetes if that could be beneficial
Have you tried massaging all of those muscles out?
So re-watched the video. 1. You very patient lol.
2. When do back rows. Should I be pulling elbow far behind my back. I hear that can irritate nerve. Not sure
People are patient with me and my scatter brain😂
Pull the elbow far enough to engage the lats fully. If it bothers you then ease up a little bit on the engagement or distance until it doesn’t.
@TrainandMassage hear is my issue. Nothing hurts during lifts besides a pinch during the first push-up, then it goes away until the last push-up. It's the day after I feel tender and painful.
sounds weird but heres my guess. During the initial and last pushup, the chest isnt fully engaged allowing some other muscle to fire up and create some kind of pinch. This muscle might be activated the entire time so you feel it the next day but during the exercise you may not feel it due to the chest being dominant.
again, this is my guess. @@vaughny7258
@TrainandMassage thanks. I did the armpit squeeze release. It helps. A lot, but get tight again an hour into work, lol. I'm at a desk so. What can you do.
give it time@@vaughny7258
Please help me 😢🙏 I think this is the cause of my problem I been having. I feel so hopeless. Do you do paid sessions ? And how much does it cost? Thank you x
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Hello,
I’ve got a lot going on, but for now I’ll just try and keep it simple. I have a lower right shoulder, no pain and it is my dominant side. I have major left shoulder neck, rib cage discomfort/pain. I and others have always focused on the left painful side. I’m now wondering if my issue isn’t really with my left but with my right shoulder.
I do have forward head/ rounded shoulder posture. . I have tried stretching /strengthening to no avail. I haven’t always had pain just dysfunction, now I have a lot of pain on the (L).
Imaging now shows I have a downward sloped, right shoulder/scapula. Also it shows that I have two tears in my supraspinatus tendons , both shoulders. I never had that before with imaging. I know it’s caused from this dysfunction in my shoulders. I went to see a sports physio and he said he suspects there’s an underlying condition, and he suspects TOS.
All this time everyone’s been focused on my left side, now I’m wondering if it might be my right dominant side that is the issue. Possibly my left side is the compensating side this whole time . I know you’ve never seen me and I’m not asking for a diagnosis I would just like your opinion if you think possibly that might thinking of it being my right downslope shoulder may be the problem? It is starting to make sense since I use my right side for everything always have. It is very tight. I know you’ve never seen me before and i’m not asking or wanting a diagnosis, I would just like to know what your thoughts are and if your TOS program you think will benefit me even though I have two tears in those tendons and they’re full tears. The ortho said since I have use of both arms which I do that perhaps I should strengthen the surrounding muscles /structures. I just don’t trust him because I don’t think he knows anything about TOS or what muscles can do to you. He’s just focused on fixing the problem. Also, if I purchase this program, do you take questions? Like I said, I have a few other things going on because of all this dysfunction.
Thank you.
The tos program wont help with the tears but it will help with some of your posture issues and tightness. I also do take questions throughout to help you out. Your success is my success.
Thank you. Yes, I know it wouldn’t help the tears , just wanted the info for the TOS.☺@@TrainandMassage
no problem, Im just on the other side of the program lol. @@lw7654
Man I would love to work with you. I pretty much have same issues. Dr claims stenosis.
Use the strategies inside the video! I hope they help!
@@TrainandMassage if ever find out stenosis and armpit pain. I'm booking you. Thanks
My arms hurt so bad I can’t do anything. The pain is in my hand and arm pit and I can’t play or do anything I just cry in the bed of all the pain. Just help me do something about it or comment so I can get the pain of and the work only helped little bit so thanks and try to see my comment or just answer the question thanks for your workout.
Try the solutions provided on the videos.
Found this while laying on My back with a lacrosse ball into my rear delt/lats
Now put that on the ant delt and pec minor
@@TrainandMassage i have an intense trigger point on the ant delt, but it seems to be on the inside not the ant delt itself, can it be the subscapularis? I Wonder if the muscle on the back is the teres minor
@@aleks2194 it might be the subscap. Hard to tell from here
Are you in Toronto?
No sorry. San Diego ca.
This exact same thing is happening to me, Adam. Massive tenderness in my left coracobrachialis muscle. Feels impinged and very tight.
Can this left-side trouble extend all the way into the neck area? My left sternocleidomastoid is jacked up, too -- so jacked up that my doctor ordered a CT scan of my neck because she suspected something serious might be happening (scan came back clear, thank goodness).
I'm doing your into-the-armpit massage daily -- hope it helps release the muscle.
I would think the neck would move into the shoulder more than the other way but I don’t see real nervy pain going up.
With that said, trigger point pain can move up but not really from that muscle.
Try to start with working it every other day. You don’t want to overdo it.
I really do hope it helps!
Did it help ?
👏👏
All this did was confuse me more
Sorry to hear that.
Bro has no idea what physical therapy is.
Ok
That squat is horrific. No wonder he has symptoms of a thirty year old.
Everyone has to start somewhere
Yeah haha ankle mobility is horrible, caused me to compensate with pelvis going down.