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The Alliance Chieftain Review : A Ship to Save Humanity? [Elite Dangerous]

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2023
  • The Alliance Chieftain from Lakon Spaceways in Elite Dangerous, is a ship designed from the ground up with a singular purpose - to save humanity from the Thargoid threat. Given it's low cost though, is it a good choice for your fleet?
    In this video, I go through my personal impressions on this ship.
    All content taken from Elite Dangerous: Odyssey, with the exception of a ~3 second clip that was taken in Horizons.
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  • @bethtargett4304
    @bethtargett4304 Год назад +14

    For me, the Chieftan is the short king of combat ships. It's small, agile and takes so much punishment you'd think it has a thing for it. Add on the fact that it's hardpoints are better than most other ships (even ones costing 5x and weighing 100x), there's almost nothing that packs the same overall package

  • @chivayos
    @chivayos Год назад +6

    Good video series you got there mate, keep it up!!
    Fell in love with the chief one ever since I've seen the pilots vid about it. Was the first ship that I engineered to 100%, haven't looked back since. I'm doing threat 8 assassinations with it with no troubles.
    I've also got a fully engineered fdl, but I still prefer prefer the chief, since it's a lot more durable against phasing weaponry .
    And yes, thargoids really don't like it.
    This ship alone has earned me 9bn credits in AX bonds since the war started.
    PS: create a dedicated fire group for the gauss canons , using 2 groups of 1 medium, 1 small gauss each and fire them alternatingly. Will keep you below 20% heat when firing with a heat sink active, meaning the thargoid should not hit you at all if you're using your laterals to dodge their attacks.

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      Thanks bud - I need to rework all the fire-groups on my Chief, so I'll bear that in mind - I'm working on the Challenger at the moment for the next vid, but given the inevitable comparisons to the Chief, I'll be back in there shortly to make some adjustments.
      It's crazy how much money the war is bringing in - just an couple of hours this evening in the Ge system pushed my credits back into a healthy place, and that's after buying a load of ships recently, plus a trip to Jameson's Memorial to stock up on internal components to go around. o7

  • @HouseShaw
    @HouseShaw Год назад +5

    I picked one up just for the looks and was immediately surprised by its capabilities in combat. After outfitting my engineered modules, it’s my favorite ship next to the anaconda.
    Great video 👍

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад +1

      For the price, it's unbeatable IMO - as for the Anaconda, it's certainly a beast of a ship - once you get over the staggering price tag of any ship in that league and get used to the boaty handling of it.

    • @HouseShaw
      @HouseShaw Год назад

      @@gamingsnipsandbits id have to say that if i went harder at pvp, or ax combat, i would use the chief all day. especially since my squad all runs krait mk2

    • @bethtargett4304
      @bethtargett4304 Год назад +1

      @@HouseShaw The Krait is all well and good, but I really dislike the limited distributor. Even after equivalent engineering, my Chieftan gets more rounds down-range and runs cooler, so for me it's no competition

    • @piketchupwarthog3574
      @piketchupwarthog3574 Год назад

      @@bethtargett4304 wait the Krait has distributor limitation...? I think it's the other way round as Chief tends to not be able to silent run for long, and Krait has Size 7 distro as opposed to Chief's 6

  • @YannaTarassi
    @YannaTarassi Год назад +2

    I'm a Fed girl, love my Vette, but I'm going to have to give this bird a try. Thanks, Commander! O7

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      She's worth a go - even if it's to impersonate a Imp pilot during the opening strike in a Combat Zone. Out of all the Gutamaya ships, at the moment it's my favourite of the four. As for the 'vette, it's a fine ship to use - rather partial to them myself. Something about using those two huge hardpoints to make sure that the enemy have no misunderstandings about the point you're trying to make.

  • @FrozenKombat
    @FrozenKombat Год назад +3

    Dude make a video for every ship, you rock

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад +1

      That's the plan - looking at doing the Sidewinder next - it's a ship all commanders have experience in, and it gets dismissed as a basic starter ship and nothing more way too often.

    • @FrozenKombat
      @FrozenKombat Год назад

      @@gamingsnipsandbits agreed! Every ship has a purpose and it’s function. Sometimes, videos like this, open the mind of Commanders to experiment other things. Even the small ships are fun to play with. I’m excited to see all your ship videos. As a note: recommendations on engineering will be great. Any recommendation is awesome

  • @eliteengineerdaz
    @eliteengineerdaz Год назад +1

    My favourite AX ship, good video 👍

  • @comandantegorrion7271
    @comandantegorrion7271 Год назад

    Honestly, I had great fun taking my chieftain, Dirae, out to crack some Xeno skulls in the first days of the Thargoid incursion, but I’ve settled back into my SRB PAs to defend the Alliance from an equally vile threat: pirates. I’m just not quite good enough without friends or with FA off to take on a real Thargoid, and popping the little ones is only satisfying for so long.

  • @NietoKT
    @NietoKT 5 месяцев назад

    My friend made a month long event, where he took his multipurpose anaconda and turned focus a bit towards the jump range... Then told us to catch him, while he flew away towards colonia.
    At first I tried going with phantom with lasers, as I thought we won't have any options for rearming. So it was bassically an explorer with guns.
    Saying it didn't work is like saying nothing. So after a few days I returned to bubble with the intention with making completely new build for fedral assault ship, but when I spoke with my friend, who was born while PvP-ing, he asked why i didn't just go with fdl... When i explained to him, that I needed much greater jump range than Lance could offer me, he said that I should go with chieftain.
    So I did. Had some experience with eagle, so I took the risk of me being capable staying close to the target and fitted it with frags.
    Oh boy that was a massacre. Out of all the interdictions of that conda I think it escaped from me once. My friend (the one fleeing) had to ask me to remove some of the frags with the effects (like drag munitions and dazzle shells), so he could at have a chance to fight with me
    It was hell lot of fun

  • @Ninja_star-rj5vn
    @Ninja_star-rj5vn Год назад +1

    the chief is my fav ship in my dock, and I have a krate mkII, I can do 2-3 mil bounty runs with it

  • @howardxu8050
    @howardxu8050 Год назад +1

    The current chieftain canopy design is actually shared with the diamondbacks

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад +3

      Ooooh not sure how I missed that, but looking at pictures of them both, I think you're right - I'll head back to my carrier later and have a side by side look at them both

  • @wavywatson4469
    @wavywatson4469 8 месяцев назад

    I don’t know, I’ve grown to like federation designs, sort of.

  • @solarisaint1
    @solarisaint1 10 месяцев назад

    What does my missle rack always shows up empty in my Chieftin?

  • @Sephiroth1550
    @Sephiroth1550 Год назад +4

    I wish f-dev had gotten their stuff together 4 years ago. I just can’t care enough to try again. The chieftain was one of my favorite ships and my best for anti Zeno for years.

  • @mrthekiller5994
    @mrthekiller5994 Год назад +1

    I can buy it in xbox? Without the horizons expansión?

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      Not as far as I'm aware (but not 100%) - think the Chief was introduced as part of Horizons IIRC

  • @XHobbiesPrime
    @XHobbiesPrime Год назад

    Chieftain is a lot of fun just to hull tank.

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      It's an absolute beast for the price - Challenger isn't a bad ship either, especially if you're going heavy on the armour

  • @alezandercorben4122
    @alezandercorben4122 Год назад

    Best ship in the game.

  • @elenadarkov8511
    @elenadarkov8511 Год назад

    My mate. The FAS is wonderful looking.

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      It's a capable ship, but I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on the looks.

  • @OmnizWrath
    @OmnizWrath Год назад

    why all good ships have no auto docking? or am i missing sumthing

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      You need to get a docking computer module for autodocking.
      The standard one does docking only and the advanced one does both docking and undocking.
      Hope this helps 🙂

  • @AbsalomIndustries
    @AbsalomIndustries Год назад

    I outfitted a Chieftain for exploration just to make a stupid ship. It's an atrocious build and the AspX is so much better at it for less credits but it does feel like cheating to squeeze 55 Ly out of a combat vessel, even if it can't fight at all in that configuration.

  • @steventurner197
    @steventurner197 Год назад

    The chieftain is a good ship but the Challenger is superior as it has greater armor and 7 hardpoints the maneuverability not as good as the chief but there is so little between them its worth sacrificing it for the greater amour and the increase in hardpoints

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Chieftain, especially for the cost, but there really isn't a lot in it between the three of them - Chief mostly wins out on agility and cost (not that cost matters too much after a while in this game).
      That being said, I'm playing around with my Challenger at the moment, with aim of turning it into a shieldless AX build and results are good - it'll certainly take a beating - especially with it's capacity for more armour, but I've still got a little bit of work to do on it. I'll pop a review of it up at some point

    • @elenadarkov8511
      @elenadarkov8511 Год назад

      Actually its slow and for cold orbiting u want it faster. With light weight armor you ending up having less armor in the end.
      I agree on the weapons part but the chief is ax Meta for a reason.

  • @xxmeanyheadxx
    @xxmeanyheadxx Год назад +1

    I almost bought a chief but i got talked into a krait mkii. still gonna buy a chief next tho but this krait just isnt the moves.

    • @OldManPaxusYT
      @OldManPaxusYT Год назад +1

      hehehe, i almost wish i hadn't been told about the Krait MkII, coz now i'm spoiled. I will probably never try out FDL for example... So many ships i don't want to bother with because the Krait is sooo good... i mean perma-boosting and having a fighter with it... it's just... so good....

    • @adawg3032
      @adawg3032 Год назад

      @@OldManPaxusYT anaconda has entered the chat

    • @m4r00123
      @m4r00123 Год назад

      @@adawg3032 Nah man, medium is premium. Yes, it's big. Yes, it has a lot of guns. Yes it can even has fighters. But good luck getting those guns to bear when the target is dancing all around you and you end up flailing helplessly while your backside gets remodelled to look like swiss cheese.

  • @MarkOleksander
    @MarkOleksander Год назад

    Intro music?

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад

      Clash of the Gods by Quincas Moreira. You should be able to find it in the RUclips Audio Library (accessible via RUclips Studio). Hope that helps!

  • @pville_piper5125
    @pville_piper5125 Год назад

    The FAS is like a F-4 Phantom... Combat Ugly!

  • @OldManPaxusYT
    @OldManPaxusYT Год назад

    Next time, rather than waste time discussing trading (from ur title, that's not what any of us are here for), you could compare it to it's other Alliance brother/sister ships - I've been using a Crusader because i originally bought one because fighter bay! I've been enjoying killing scouts (i have zero engineering) and even spent hours shooting at an Interceptor.....
    Anyway, I've compared stats and i just can't see why *_the Chieftain_* is always said to be the best for AX combat... They all seem to have pros and cons.... (Crusader, Chieftain and Challenger)
    OOOH! Just got to the bit where you PROMISED a comparison! 😜← ↑ Comment for algorithm + 👍 'd
    #OldManPaxus Rating: ☆☆☆

    • @gamingsnipsandbits
      @gamingsnipsandbits  Год назад +2

      I like to mention trade, mining ETC just to give a fuller picture - in case someone is thinking about using it as a multi-role ship 😀
      As for the comparisons - the plan I've got is to use this as the benchmark for the three ships and then draw comparisons in the other two - they've all got their strengths and weaknesses, but some of them have more strengths than others.
      Either way, Vulture next 👍

    • @OldManPaxusYT
      @OldManPaxusYT Год назад

      @@gamingsnipsandbits Howdy! o7 I thought as much, i was really just going off the title, which led to my personal issue - Owning 2 Crusaders and having retrofitted one of them as a shieldless hull/armour tank for AX ops .
      If you have time, i'd love to hear what you think. I'm def going to buy one but not because of any comparisons i've made or seen but more because i haven't been using the fighter ANYWAY!!!

    • @AbsalomIndustries
      @AbsalomIndustries Год назад

      The Challenger can make do in AX combat, but generally the issue is that the shields on the Crusader aren't strong enough for it to work as a shield tank, and it loses considerable speed and maneuverability in comparison to the Chieftain as a tradeoff for being able to mount a fighter bay. The biggest drawback is that it's slow, which can't be overcome with clever flying skills, and this makes it a poor choice against Interceptors, which are quite fast for their size and firepower. Generally you want a ship with at least 500 m/s boost speed, and the Crusader fails this test. In addition it's not as tanky as the Chieftain and while with Gauss retains a similar DPS potential, overall there's not really any reason to bring one since the fighter is of limited use, if any, in AX combat, and the internal slots mean you're down on hull HP while also being slower and an easier target.
      The Challenger can be made to work; it offers similar or slightly better DPS while being a little bit slower and slightly more vulnerable to getting caught out due to slower max boost speed, but you can make it slightly tougher than the Chieftain as a meaningful tradeoff while still keeping a ~500 m/s boost speed. And its maneuverability is quite close to the Chieftain's as well, if you prefer a slightly tougher, less twitchy spacecraft.
      The other big con is that if you DO run a fighter for AX combat, the fighter can inadvertently enrage the swarm, it constantly dies, and it basically totally prevents playing with other CMDRs as fighters still cause lag spikes.

  • @garethde-witt6433
    @garethde-witt6433 Год назад

    Unfortunately I found the Chieftain an awful ship to use, not very agile at all. It’s a bit of a pig in combat I do love the look but I had to sell it.

    • @chivayos
      @chivayos Год назад

      If the chief ain't agile? Now I'm kinda curious to hear which ship you preferably use for combat

    • @steventurner197
      @steventurner197 Год назад

      Not agile your on a wind up

    • @garethde-witt6433
      @garethde-witt6433 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@chivayosI prefer the Krait mk2

    • @garethde-witt6433
      @garethde-witt6433 7 месяцев назад

      @@steventurner197 No I found it like trying to fly a type 9, sluggish and like a lead weight.

    • @jameswalker9418
      @jameswalker9418 5 месяцев назад

      @@garethde-witt6433 I also think the Krait MK2 is a better ship. I honestly wanted to like the Chieftain, but after outfitting it and engineering it several different ways, I just didn't like the way it handled in combat.