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I've always said that _"the goal of a prank is to confuse, not abuse "_ . Seeing idols in distress is not 'entertainment' and is just straight-up wrong.
Hell yeah it's wrong, I don't understand why these kinds of variety shows exist to humiliate and aduse idols just to show how "relatable" they are behind the idol label. Like of course they are human beings, why do they gotta be doing this kind of shit to prove it?🤬
I never understood how these extreme pranks are supposed to be pranks? You’re causing someone an actual state of terror and yet this is supposed to be a prank? It can actually traumatize someone for life.
seeing how he broke down thinking that he had hurt his childhood friend and bandmate made me mad. that "prank" was unnecessary. the man looked traumatised
That CEO slapping Sera was a coward, I watched the documentary and he was putting the blame on her for the mistakes of the other girls. That was his job not hers.
Sunghoon was like 19-20 y/o at the time. Imagine thinking that you shot your friend who is like a brother/sister to you. How traumatizing that would be?? Imagine laughing at it calling it a prank
@@brennathecatlover4360 the frog one would be possibly forgiveable at first, if they had pulled him out after immediately noticing he was hysterical. Its possible that they didnt know he had a phobia at first, but then obviously they didnt let him leave, which is not what you do to someone with a phobia.
@@beatm6948 i'm pretty sure they knew he had a phobia. it wouldn't be believable as a coincidence. there's no way they didn't know. the people who set up the show is to blaim though. the members looked so worried and wanted to help hendery.
And the more disgusting thing about that incident was how the agency and the comedian still trying to refuse and cover up the allegations... It's really disgusting...
I still remember when the Taeyeon incident happened, I was WAY too new to kpop and I got shocked and because of it I never had the "innocence" of thinking that the kpop world its a fantasy world, it's as real as us
At that time, I was 6. I remember the incident, as I became a K-pop stan in 2010. Girls' Generation is still my favorite group and, at that time, one of the first groups I stanned. Initially, I didn't know what the hell happened, it made me scared and I decided not to watch concerts and live stages until 2015.
fr, this sasaeng clearly had bad intentions (who knows what would've happened to Taeyeon is she was actually taken), and instead of giving a reasonable punishment they just told him to "sit at home and reflect"????? SM needs to be reformed, literally nothing has changed with how they protect their idols
The "incident" doesn't look as real tho. The "student" was just casually walking up to her and how come did the staff not notice any of this was happening? How come they only reacted when Taeyeon was already "dragged off" and not when he was only approaching?
That guy punching the young girl: yeah there's no way I believe what she said about it being a joke. Even though it was blocked by someone walking into the shot, there's no doubt in my mind he punched her for real. To hell with him.
Right? Also.. He totally punched her. She was rubbing her arm.. It's so obvious. She didn't expect it to be caught on camera either, so her rubbing her arm was a real reaction.
if it was a joke he would have smile or laughed and even tho that's weird at least its better than actually hitting her. But he didn't, he didn't smile or laughed he walked away looking angry af and she was rubbing her arm meaning he actually hit her. disgusting.
I don't mean to make it worst for you but if you're interested to know there was an earlier incident involving her when a co star called her a bit*h same thing happend he was fired and the company brushed it off
Seriously like they’re just trying to make this go away so downplay it all so it doesn’t make them look bad because they had these type of people who behaved like this and did it towards a young girl u can see he’s clearly how like pissed off he is with how he so sharply ripped away from her grasp and punched her which u can’t see the direct contact but see how he pulled his arm back to do it and the sharp and loud sound it makes even on a set with lots of background noises. And see how angry he looks before and after hitting her, and never did anything that would show her he was just “joking”. I think she just agreed with their story and stuff because she doesn’t want to look like she’s “troublesome” and I mean that as in other companies thinking if they hired her she would speak out about the toxicity and such. Like how many actresses didn’t speak out on sexual harassment and such until me too happened because they felt they couldn’t and if that did they could be blacklisted or something.
chuu's situation was so weird, like the staffer really pulled a chunk of her hair, "to get her attention". i wouldn't even do that to my friends? it feels so disrespectful. and she just did the interview and the rest of the show with a big smile on her face. props to her for the professionalism but she was probably shocked and uncomfortable that incident combined with bts saying they didn't even have a waiting room at music shows or celebrities wouldn't even make eye contact with them or reject taking photos with them makes me wonder how badly idols are treated if they're not from a big group or company
Which celebrities treated bts like that? I’m gonna avoid those toxic celebs. And yea I agree that pulling someone’s hair especially a big CHUNK is not ok. Like wtf
@@00.miu_ bts never revealed who those people were just that it was senior groups and celebs that were more famous at the time before bts themselves became huge.
hey, i just want to say that just because chuu smiled it off doesnt mean its professional. idols CAN show their anger on the staff or continue the interview without a smile, that does not mean that is not professional. they have feelings too, so they are allowed to act according to the staff's behaviour. the meaning of the word professionalism has changed so much in kpop that there are still idols who think they have to not react to situations like this one, and just smile it off because of this term professionalism
The thing is even if the staff member did tap her on the shoulder why the fuck is he pulling her hair. Both actions are wrong. He shouldn’t be pulling anyone’s hair and dragging them
@@southpawpaw7214 during Tokyo Olympics opening, their program introduced some country with unrespectful manners and sensitive topics, especially towards third world/developing country. It was a big scandal that the CEO of MBC had to formally apologize to press media.
The chaeyeon and chuu incidents infuriated me especially since they were so blatant and if anyone touched me in they way they were treated I would've gone absolutely hysterical
You can protect idols from stalkers and sasaengs, yet how can you protect them from the abusers that literally were their own bosses/staffs? How could we know whether the members were living in dangerous situations or not?
Exactly,they are being abused by the very same people who are supposed to protect and care for them,these people are just literally taking advantage of their position over these vulnerable idols
Hold up, Sera got bashed by her company, for being concerned about the youngest of the group?! Nah, sue them honey, ruin them, do anything to get rid of them
Gosh I remember the gun shot one I was so scared and mad at the crew for such a lame prank. A prank is supposed to be funny but here dude c'mon... He almost passed out of fear look at his eye
The controversy of this idol hating and being disgusted by his fans isnt surprising Many idols dont debut because of the fandom and being an artist, instead to get fame and be a soloist or actor after the group disbands
@@brennathecatlover4360 literally same, and so many fans are creepy and disrespectful. i wouldn’t be surprised if most idols said this behind the scenes, i don’t blame them
I'm wondering how and why people still want to become kpop idols. The happiness you see in front of the cameras is fake. Violating human rights, restrictions, abuse, shaming, haters, creepy fans, debt, physical and mental health illnesses. Living with a lifelong trauma because of a few years of recognition is not worth it. Only a small percentage of kpop idols make it to the top and they must be extra lucky for the company management. Most kpop idols just suffer.
Yeah I understand that but look, they’re scouted at a very young age, and sometimes are from a totally different country. They’re just kids and want to become singers, they don’t necessarily know what truly happens behind the scenes. X company shows up, tells them they are gonna make them the next big thing in kpop and before they know it the kids end up signing a contract that forces them to do as the company says. Some start training at 9, if not even before that. Then have a debut during their teenage years (e.g HyunA literally debuted at 14). At that age you’re not conscious of the gravity of the situation. This is my opinion, but I don’t think companies should be scouting anyone under a certain age. These idols deserve to have a normal childhood and at least finish High school.
@@heretostay558 Exactly! There should be an age regulation! Moreover, I'm still surprised that parents allow their children to sign up, even though they know how it works in the industry. They should fight for the improvement of the conditions for idols OR choose other ways to support their child's talents.
NOTE THIS IS NOT MY OPINION many want to be an idol simply because they want to have a career as an idol. and one other reason is idols get paid alotttt if youre even a little popular so how alot of people view it is, sacrifice your 20s and quit , live rich for the rest of your life.
@@MeAmLoveU Where did you get the idea that Idols get paid a lot? Many many popular idols were in debt for years after their debuts. The ones who get paid a lot are big names like BTS and Blackpink. Many idols after leaving their group have gone on to talk about how it took them years to get out of debt despite their fame.
It happens in all countries industries...Remember America's " Me Too" movement? It's the industry, boys and girls alike are abused. They want to be famous and make a lot of money so they put up withit.
To add more context to the Sechskies “prank” that I found out about recently: This was a part of a kind of variety show where they did a lot of stuff like this. Also, before idols were on the show, they had a scripted “horror” segment that would include violence and even suicide. The plots surprised me because of how much media censorship there was at the time. They did a similar prank on H.O.T around that time saying Tony had a contagious infection and not to touch him. Heejun caved though when Tony said he needed to go to the bathroom and didn’t have the strength to walk. Heejun put Tony on his back and was making his way out of the room right when the show decided to end the prank. Heejun tried to pull the same prank on Kangta, but Kangta broke down in tears, so Heejun broke character (which was something the members had a habit of doing in these situations) and told him he was fine. Compared to other some of the other “horror” skit synopses on the show, I think both groups got off lightly - even though the show a bit before that time was vocally against idols appearing and didn’t talk nicely about them. However, Sunghoon was (understandably) really upset by it even long after the filming was over. EDIT to add: The show was called 기쁜 우리 토요일 or "Our Happy Saturday". It ran from 1994-2001 and was adult-oriented at the beginning and that was when the horror segment mainly ran. As idols became popular, it switched to being teenager-oriented.
that show sounds so messed up. and knowing how tight the members of both groups are, it's unthinkable how stressful they must've been for getting pulled into those situations and to have them think their close friends were hurt
Wait, is that the same show where they kidnapped Dominic by a "sasaeng" and made him do and say stuff to her because he was begging for his life? I was digusted by that actress that she went that far. .
not pulling someone's hair is obviously common sense. it's not like you would go up to a stranger and do that, let alone someone you are supposed to interview... 🤨🤔
That CF “prank” is so awful. Pranks are supposed to be funny and maybe a little embarrassing, not traumatizing like this. They went way, way too far. There is absolutely nothing funny or okay about that.
I'd heard a little about the stalker in this video but he is next level creepy when you see how close he was to them on the flight, the idol needs to slap a restraining order on him. The whole "upskirt camera angle" thing is gross and I can't believe someone got reprimanded for covering their legs. The CF prank is sickening, you can see the poor guy is traumatized thinking he's shot and killed his best friend.
To be fair, respect is a HUGE thing in Asian culture. Yewon was being awfully disrespectful by speaking informally to her senior and someone older than her. Whilst smirking as if she hadn't done anything wrong, even after Taeim told her she was speaking informally. But yes, things were getting ugly and both were in the wrong. In short, do not go against what is highly valued in your culture.
@@hamisyummers8664 even if you’re that upset over informal speech an actual responsible adult would have said “don’t speak informally, it’s disrespectful due to our difference in age/position/etc. Understand?” They wouldn’t blow up and act like a child and humiliate someone…
@@saram3449, I didn’t say you hate anyone. I meant to dislike, because we know for sure that South Koreans are especially serious when it comes to attitude especially in celebrities. And it’s too bad that both of them weren’t able to have mutual respect for one another during the set. So chill a little.
lmao I remember the hawayong incident, it was so embarrassing 💀 but then so many fans realise how much idols had to go thru everyday. what they said on camera probably not what they really meant. there are idols sincerely said that but we don't know how many out there feels the same way as he is. after all they're also human and can feel discomfort at times
The "prank" they did to Sunghoon was one of the most distateful things i could ver imagine doing to someone, making them think they shoot their friend???!!!!! Who in their sane mind would ever think that is okay or somehting to laugh about???
It wasn't mentioned in this video but just so people realize how serious Nayeon's stalker situation is. Firstly he has obtained a lot of personal information such as Chaeyoung's phone number which he leaked to the public which caused Chaeyoung herself to speak out against him. He also supported Mina's stalker who showed up at her family home in Japan while she was there on hiatus for her mental health. In addition he has mentioned on several occasions said that he believes that if a person causes you heartbreak, you have a right to murder them. He has also said that he is certain that Nayeon wouldn't break his heart, but he still said that if she did he would not rule out the possibility of having to kill her and then himself. He is deeply disturbed but unfortunately he is receiving help from other saesangs and obtaining a lot of information. Please do not try to communicate with him as this agitates him and causes him to become more extreme. If you see anything just report it to the platform (twitter, youtube etc) and screenshot what happened for proof and send that to JYPE.
By "slightly tapped" he meant he mentally tapped, with no verbal/gesture warning whatsoever, and then he proceeded to assault her by yanking her hair... what an idiot of an excuse.
the hwayoung one is so 😐. imagine being that ungrateful to people that support you? i can only hope that the idols i like are genuine when they say they love their fans but we can never truly know…
I kinda get it tho, its exhausting and annoying catering to all sorts of fans that are crazy, lusty, and weird, not a lot of boundaries. But if your gonna be an idol, then being around people is gonna be part of the job, it's a sacrifice for pursuing a entertainment position.
@@cherryblossom7120 i def get not liking fans like sasaengs or ones that make you uncomfortable, but if its the ones that just support you and dont do anything weird then its very ungrateful in my eyes yk? 😭
@@cherryblossom7120 I get the hi touch thing, touching so many people is weird and can be unhygienic, but straight up dissing them was just dumb. Without fans there isn't idols. Mind you I do believe some fans take it WAY to far.
I kinda get where hes coming from tho. Imagine having to touch 700 o 800 hundred people without getting tired of it and having to vent to a friend in private. But yeah, the friend leaked it and now he seems like a total asshole, but I cannot avoid have some empathy for idols who constantly have to act like they are the Boyfriends or girlfriends and have their boundaries traspassed by people they ultimately don't know. Also, I like being called girl by friends and so, but not by people I dont know anything about
@@cherryblossom7120 True, and he said their breaths smell. If they really did smell, then I really feel for him. Yall don't brush your teeth or anything? I bet most of them didn't have a mental condition.
some of these are hard to watch cuz jeez... there's also a video of an old staff member looking like he was going to hit Jungkook of BTS and it shocks me cuz he was so young and this probably happens a lot with so many trainees and idols. I'm so glad idols nowadays are speaking out even more and this time people are listening to them instead of the old saying "that's what being an idol brings"
What’s sad about all these cases is that most of the people apologising only apologised because they were forced to by the public or justice system, they see nothing wrong in their unjust actions. It’s sad really
Seniority power gap in SK is seriously f*cked up for me. Althought I agree that older people should be respected, I do not agree how it seems to be forced and abused in many occasions.
Almost all Asian countries has seniority things going on. Even my country we should respect our elders event if they are bad people. I do believe elders should be respected but respect is earned. My uncle who is around 70, he constantly touch teenager girls b00bs and try to assault them yet my parents and all these people respect him so much jus cos he's the 'oldest leader' and one of the most respected in our church. I feel disgusted whenever I go near him and I feel scared. *sorry for ranting
I'm kind of on Yewon's side. Yes, speaking to your seniors informally is disrespectful in many cultures, but I think the reaction to it is so over the top. I'm native and in my tribe we're taught to respect our elders and seniors--even if they're complete douchbags. That's one tradition I don't really care for because I'm the kind of person who calls it as it is and won't respect anyone if they don't show me the same respect, even if they're my senior. Honorifics and reverence for seniors is overrated and I like how Yewon didn't give any f*cks about it. I guess I like seeing kpop stars being rebellious because they're expected to do everything by the book.
I don't think anyone should take anyones side. She was being disrespectful (not rebelious) and kept being disrespectful, while the other was using bad words (which she shouldn't have). There both wrong.
While I understand your reasoning, it was not an act of rebellion, she was looking down on the actress. Korean formal speech patterns indicate hierarchy: by speaking informally to to someone who’s ‘ranked higher’, you are not freeing yourself from that system, instead you are using the same system but simply placing yourself at an unnecessarily high position. Given that she had much less life and professional experience, it was arrogant of her to put herself on the same level as if they were equals. She was looking down on the actress by disregarding her senior’s place in the hierarchy. Add to that the typical high school bully glare, and there’s no doubt she was being disrespectful. I remember first hearing about this case and not getting the problem, but now after living a few years in Korea, I can understand why the actress blew up like that. If the girl truly wanted to be rebellious, she could have spoken up against the actress on the show, instead, like a sly fox, she spoke down to her in a very casual way when she thought she was off camera.
I dont even need to know what happened to Chuu or what the staff did, all I need to do is look at Hyunjin facial expressions (cause when Hyunjin doesn't like something she does this face to signal that she doesn't like what happening or disagrees with what a person has said, she's just a queen like that) so even if the staff said that they didn't pull Chuu's hair, we will always be backed up by Hyunjin facial expressions
I wish chuu would've smacked him on his face. I know she would've. I trust in our queen hyunjin on such matter but unfortunately the video is too blurry to clearly watch their facial expressions. If you know the source for clear quality please share.
@Taehyung?tea hyung?don't use culture as an excuse to cover verbal abuse,she was being straight up mean and narcissistic to her junior,that's not how a senior should behave
@@DaughterofMother1 Obviously they were both in the wrong. But I was saying that since Koreans are very serious about respecting elders, it's more understandable that she would get annoyed quickly-- especially when the other girl kept on speaking informally.
That dude hitting Chaeyeon is always so sad to me, the fact that hes working with her, her being so young and having to put up with that, if he did that while theres an audience imagine what he was doing while nobody or only few people were watching
The last one really pissed me off. I will never understand ungrateful celebrities. Does he not realize that if it weren't for those same fans, he wouldn't have even had the opportunity to perform on the stage 🤬
I mean- yes he was super disrespectful, I don't mean to justify or defend him specifically but idols go through a lot of shi and you can't blame them for sometimes feeling tired of talking to strangers. Either way, there are many things in this video that are definitely worse.
With clear video proofs like that and some of them still keep in denial, clearly that comedian hit her arm and his facial expressions clearly look annoyed, and that manager also clear as a day pulling Chuu's hair like that. They think people are stupid or what. I know that protecting privacy is very very important, but it could expose some dirty ass people like those abusive staffs and manager tho :'(
Taeyeon's incident still had me shocked when it came out. It made no sense to me HOW he was able to get backstage and be able to get up on the stage. It just goes to show how lacking their security is or they just have too many staff members running around to actually care about a wandering nobody until it got to that point where he's ruining a show. Taeyeon actually ended up on the ground out of shock after being dragged to the side. Sunny had a firm hold of her the whole time before the MC and another staff member tackled the assailant down. He was just crazy, plain and simple. Now the hair pulling. That's BS. He "claims" to have tapped her and then pulled her hair. Am I blind or are you, sir, blind? The video clearly shows you going STRAIGHT for her hair. And even if you did tap her shoulder, the most appropriate way to drag someone away is by their arm. NOT THE HAIR. Shamelessly lying to preserve his job. Here sir, lemme pull YOUR SHORT HAIR to the office so we can have a nice discussion on how much that actually HURTS and how UNPROFESSIONAL it looks to outsiders and embarrass you as I DRAG you by your hair.
can you do a full video on 9muses? their story is so heartbreaking but i always feel like i can never find enough proper information on it to feel like i know it well
I love that you made this video because abuse is rampant and always covered up unless there is absolute proof. As we see by the few cases in this video the perpetrators get a slap on the wrist. There's a lot I haven't seen and I was disgusted. The truly scary part is if things get caught on camera you know the abuse is off the charts off camera. It's abuse by people in positions of power and seniors that includes abuse by other celebs towards other celebs. That's why no one should be placed on pedestals because we never know who is an offender behind cameras. It's always covered up by everyone who knows either due to fear or because violent abusive people get off on it and there's no one to rein them in. Please keep making important videos and content that addresses serious issues within the industry because Korean celebrities do not have the freedom or power to speak out against their abusers. Imagine being abused and being forced to make a statement (by the people who are there to protect you) saying it was just a joke nothing happened! It's absolutely crazy it's a constant cycle of abuse.
I feel so bad for Chaeyeon, that man should not be in any show!!.... gosh and that MBC staff, so disrespectful... why is it so difficult to treat the idols kindly, they dont have to be extra nice or whatever... just even basic level of respect as a human... sigh.... this world
@Ra lee I would argue all idols from the bands you listed don't truly and I mean truly love their fans... I mean sorry but lets take Chen (or the rest of the exo members how would they feel btw losing a band member they knew and grew up with) for ex. would still loovee their fans after kicking him out cuz he has a wife? Yea I don't think he would say "yeah I love my fans after blaming me for living a normal life, threatening my wife and made me lose my job"... Or Bts cuz I'm assuming youre talking abt JK having a tattoo... I do believe he's grateful since armys gave him this opportunity to make his dream come true.. But thats all. All idols are normal human beings, they love his/her gf/bf, family and friends. They all say what their company instructed them and yall fall for it forgetting being and idol is a job
@Ra lee I do believe Chen is grateful for those who defend him and all cuz those are his actual fans.. I really disliked see him leave. Hes truly a talented singer.. So bad we lost such an amazing voice within' Exo but my points remain the same... What do the other Exo members believe abt this? And it either may be that they choose to keep their private life a secret and afraid someone will find out eventually or don't really care and choose to go with the flow which I highly doubt it since their companys policy and all. Since they saw the outcome as their main vocalist did... They would obv think its far fetched and hate/dislike having a gf and not being able to go out without being recognized or living a normal life ... And let me say.. All of them have gf / bf cuz they're attractive young men. What makes you believe they're single? Imagine the impact that would have on stupid idiotic obsessed fans...they simply can't say they are in a relationship ... Like bighit for ex..I truly pity Bts. Imagine having fans that you are so scared of to show your gf/bf .. You are dreaming if you believe they're truly in love with their fans and that includes all kpop idols.. And I don't get me wrong.. They have all the right to that..some fans really thrist way too much its embarrassing... Imagine JK reading a fanfic or the comm.sect. he would feel embarrassed for gods sake.. Cringe af... And then die..they don't LOVE YOU they profit out of your obsessions... Also what you see on camera dosent reflect their actual personality lmao....dont be dumb. They were trained for years to deceive kids like you to fall for them and buy their albums... You take way too much praise in those tattoos :)) they mean money and accomplishment... not some obsessed fans they will never know lmao
@Ra lee lmao ok lets say you do know the difference between "love and in love" but many kpop fans dont...but still you seem to forget the fact that all idols know they're filmed and can't actually show their true personality.. its astonishing how many naive fans believe they know everything abt how they act.. they have contracts and its a job..."family type of love"? really? they say nice things because they have to, otherwise you won't buy their albums etc. thats how they make money. I can tell one of your biases is Jk because you seem to take pride in that tattoo its really not that big of a deal...every culture choose carefully what their tattoos should be..my points remain the same, its a big part of his accomplishments thats abt it..Also not like I believe you but even if you know someone in the industry. Its not like theyre always close to idols and know what they do/act on regular basis.. so...that piece of information is useless :))...
I work in a really big company that it’s internationally known. I got abused many times verbally and physically. It has been almost 6 years now since i started working in there. I didn’t opened that up to my mother thinking that it would break her heart to know that her precious child being treated like that. And these people are had to go through those by on camera thinking how their parents feel like when they see those. As a child you don’t want to worry your parents so i’m sure there are many things that they hide and can’t admit on public to protect their loved ones. Sometimes you can’t quit because of economic situations and how hard you worked for that position. You just try to keep your mental state in good and think that it will over soon. I’m sure when they denied those abuses they were just trying to keep their image clear and think that it will over soon too
what the stalker named josh is doing to nayeon is horrible. he says that if he finds her with another guy, he would find her and kill her. he says he would do that because he loves her. he is scaring me so bad. i really hope he does nothing bad to nayeon and that she will be okay.
I don't know if they did but there needs to be in place with police and security in Korea that if he enters he will be arrested and in other countries venues need his picture put up incase he shows up and mix the cars up with tented windows kind of like the president does but obviously more scaled down. Also lots of bodyguards aswell
Sorry but no. How can someone be so pissed over informalities to start a childish fight like that just because she’s older? Wow. And then to insult the younger person by calling her a “bitch”? I don’t care what your culture is, there’s some major overreacting there…
I understand what you’re saying but over there they take it seriously and it was obvious she did it on purpose, sometimes it’s not up to us to decide things for them (outsiders that’s not korean or in the country). Respect should go both ways, you don’t provoke someone but at the same time she didn’t have to yell at her. Regardless we should respect their rules.
@@memestealer8430 i think you can call someone with informalities if you’re close but either way she shouldn’t have snapped like that, she could just been like “hey sorry i don’t feel comfortable with you speaking informally to me” and it would’ve been fine
Well both of them are korean and know their culture so of course she's gonna be angry, because she knows that girl did it on purpose to piss her off. And when you get annoyed by someone and adress it and the person still continues of course you gonna be angry🤷♀️
Releasing statements/ making a video is stupid. Cause the idol can’t come out n say ‘ they did this and that’ like no that would be stupid as they’d either get seriously hurt or fired.
If that CEO did that today in 2021 to Sera, there would be no place in this world he could hide. And when he was found, it would not go well for him and he would regret what he did.
You put very short part of Yewon, Taeim thing. I remember back in the days when it actually happened and full videos etc were revealed her telling unnie you told me that I can talk indormal to you, or something like that. So, it kind of looked like the ill-intention older celebrity trapping the younger one to make her bad. Younger people should always be careful while talking to their elders, even if they tell you you can sprak informal, until you spend tones of time with them to be sure you can trust them.
I've had so many arguments with people where they basically come back with "Korean culture is different, you can't just enforce your own morals and values on Kpop, they all signed a contract and agreed to be idols." Abuse is not a value, and it's not Korean culture. Gtfo with that crap, fake stans.
What’s up with these bullies? Isn’t it bad enough these young children get taken away from their families and have to suffer so much? There should be rules/laws against physical abuse. There’s no reason or excuse for hitting/bullying anyone. I hope all these abusers got fired. 💜
I remember there was a filmed prank where a "female sasaeng kidnapped" a male idol and demanded they get married. The male idol in question was pleading to be free and said he would do her a favour, which she told him was a kiss on the lips which he did. After that kiss, the prank was revealed. I am pretty sure he even cried during the prank because he thought it was real. Another incident was when a female idol with a water type phobia was forced by the staff members to enter a pool or something and she cried out not to do that because she was terrified.
The Yewon and Taeim incident shouldn't have gotten so damn big... People need to really stop butting into everything and mind their own frickin business. That was something between them and the person filming should get a FIRM SLAP on the goddamn hands.
These companies should be protecting their artist against these stalkers. That one that pulled the girl off the stage got far too close should've been charged for that.
Some of these are straight up abuse by staff that needs major legal action and possible termination. I understand training is hard work but nobody deserves any physical or verbal abuse. What makes them think it's okay or the norm to do that? There is a difference between little jokes, friendly taps, etc and actually hurting somebody. To any of the staff members who actually did that to trainees, idols, and even other staff members, you should be ashamed of yourself, punished, and terminated. Again, this is to any staff members who actually did some sort of abuse towards those people. Nothing justifies it at all. I will speak up about that. To anybody that had to go through that, I am so sorry.
So the member of nine Muses was doing the right thing and being concerned about the younger members having to wear garters and she got punished for it. That’s really effed up. This is why minors shouldn’t debut in K-pop until they’re 18.
the 9 muses documentary was my introduction to kpop. I started the video just out of curiosity and couldn't stop watching it because of how terrible the girls were treated and I never knew this side of kpop.
Oh btw I don't know if you noticed but you forgot to put "Nayeon's stalker" part in the description😊 Maybe it was on purpose but I still wanted to notify it to you!
I don't understand why anyone would want to be in the kpop industry, or any industry for that matter. It's a toxic environment. Not only are the idols/artist physically abused but emotionally and mentally as well. It's just disgusting how these companies treat people.
12:25 , 13:37 in all these released staments, the company means that they will try their best to hide these kind of things from camera but continue to do them backstage..... thank you
Chuu being bullied was so heart breaking and then when she left loona they tried to paint her as a greedy mean girl. After reading the reports of all the shit they did to chuu on top of stealing the loona members money I'm so happy the girls escaped i hope their doing much better now
9:10 the nayeon stalker was (is?) So deranged that this man started sending messages to people nayeon was publicly close with, for example, Yeri. A lot of fans noticed her comments flooded with his comments until he was either blocked or he stopped on his own. He needs help. Seriously.
Even if he tapped her shoulder, he waited like one second for her to make a response. It would have been enough to just wait a little or tap again. I don't understand what makes someone think it's ok to grab someone by the hair when they don'trespond right away???
8:45 Ok I agree that his behavior is absolutely not ok to do, stalking and following a celebrity/ for you it's a total stranger which also is not ok. But this question has been annoying my mind for a long time now... Why is it that if it's publicly known that sb. is German that I feel like that it's being pushed into the foreground too much? It's always there when sb talks about them and it's in the sentences almost like a statement, I understanding that it's part of the information that we have, but I feel like that people say their nationality more often or it's like the second word in a sentence when sb is German, compared to sb whose for example British. I can understand that's often not to malicious paint every German as a bad person but it's still sounds like "oh look at them, once *again* these bad bad guys did sth..." It confuses me a lot, or I'm just a bit sensitive when I hear the word. Lol Btw if this guy can't understand that that you *should not* do those stalker things, then I'll right him a respectful, polite but strong letter because man - it *cannot* be the case that he does these things... If he reads this: Eigentlich solltest Du wissen, dass man so etwas nicht tun sollte, es ist einfach nur schlecht für alle Angehörigen, Du be.lästigst sie und verschwendest ihre, deine und die Zeit aller anderen. Überleg doch mal - würdest Du es lieben wenn Leute aufsuchen wo Du warst, findest Du das nicht creepy?? Ich finde es einfach nicht respektvoll und Du gibst ihr auch keine Privatsphäre, sie arbeitet fast den ganzen Tag, rund im die Uhr - und dann kommst Du und gibt ihr wahrscheinlich keine Ruhe, auch nicht wenn sie sich entspannen möchte was es einfach *nicht* sein kann. Ich erwarte nicht, dass Du dich über Nacht änderst. Aber denk zumindest mal richtig darüber nach, ob das keine Belästig.ung ist... Tschau, Nacht. :D 🌙
Trans.: Actually, you should know that this is not something you should do, it is just bad for everyone you annoy them and waste their, your and everyone else's time. Think about it - would you love it when people go to where you have been, don't you think it's creepy? I just don't think it's respectful and you don't give her any privacy either, she works most of the day, around the clock - and then you come and probably don't give her any rest, not even when she wants to relax, which it just * cannot * be the case. I don't expect you to change overnight. But at least think carefully about whether this is a nuisan.ce ... Bye, night. : D
Entertainment industry is always dirty. I thought I'd see here the clip where a staff of SBS was saying nasty remarks on BTOB. All the members heard those words in their earpiece but had to continue performing which they did. It was never addressed and they didn't get any apology. Anyway..our BTOB is above these things.
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honestly my blood is boiling.
I've always said that _"the goal of a prank is to confuse, not abuse "_ . Seeing idols in distress is not 'entertainment' and is just straight-up wrong.
Hell yeah it's wrong, I don't understand why these kinds of variety shows exist to humiliate and aduse idols just to show how "relatable" they are behind the idol label. Like of course they are human beings, why do they gotta be doing this kind of shit to prove it?🤬
Eric Andre is the perfect embodiment of a well done prank. He confuses, and he does it great
This is so right. It’s how it should be. If you’re entertained by someone being in distress then you’re a horrible human
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prank always tend go to far. that y i really hate prank
I never understood how these extreme pranks are supposed to be pranks? You’re causing someone an actual state of terror and yet this is supposed to be a prank? It can actually traumatize someone for life.
a prank is putting salt in someone's coffee or something like that... what they're doing is abuse.
That was disgusting, you don't traumatize someone like that as a "prank".
He was actually bawling his eyes out how is this a prank?
seeing how he broke down thinking that he had hurt his childhood friend and bandmate made me mad. that "prank" was unnecessary. the man looked traumatised
i feel extremely bad for him. That prank was too extreme
That CEO slapping Sera was a coward, I watched the documentary and he was putting the blame on her for the mistakes of the other girls. That was his job not hers.
Victim blaming -_-
Sera looked used to it… She didn’t even flinch when the manager did that. That’s scary to me.
right 😱
I know idol companies are infamous for being shitty, but 9Muses company was next level trash. The stuff the members went through is horrible.
they went through so much they deserved so much better :(
wait wouldn't someone used to abuse usually flinch?
@@monbebe871 ikr
Sunghoon was like 19-20 y/o at the time. Imagine thinking that you shot your friend who is like a brother/sister to you. How traumatizing that would be?? Imagine laughing at it calling it a prank
I thought the prank people were talking about was the frog one with hendery. I’m just reading the comments lol
@@brennathecatlover4360 the frog one would be possibly forgiveable at first, if they had pulled him out after immediately noticing he was hysterical. Its possible that they didnt know he had a phobia at first, but then obviously they didnt let him leave, which is not what you do to someone with a phobia.
@@beatm6948 i'm pretty sure they knew he had a phobia. it wouldn't be believable as a coincidence. there's no way they didn't know. the people who set up the show is to blaim though. the members looked so worried and wanted to help hendery.
@@kkkkawaiie isn’t sunghoon not the greatest person lol from what I heard
@Judas Iscariot A very traumatizing prank. It's not funny to joke about death, you should know that.
Nine muse's documentary is so sad... The way they treated Sera is disgusting. Great video as always.
that man that hit the girl on that show have clearly some anger issues or something , his reaction was so exaggerate
right?
Yes!
And the more disgusting thing about that incident was how the agency and the comedian still trying to refuse and cover up the allegations... It's really disgusting...
@@hugecake4178 yes right
@Tia Howard or he need to cure his ange r issues, there's therapy for that
I still remember when the Taeyeon incident happened, I was WAY too new to kpop and I got shocked and because of it I never had the "innocence" of thinking that the kpop world its a fantasy world, it's as real as us
At that time, I was 6. I remember the incident, as I became a K-pop stan in 2010. Girls' Generation is still my favorite group and, at that time, one of the first groups I stanned. Initially, I didn't know what the hell happened, it made me scared and I decided not to watch concerts and live stages until 2015.
That guy should've been arrested 😑
fr, this sasaeng clearly had bad intentions (who knows what would've happened to Taeyeon is she was actually taken), and instead of giving a reasonable punishment they just told him to "sit at home and reflect"????? SM needs to be reformed, literally nothing has changed with how they protect their idols
@@madzredfox_36 Like honestly they let him off so easily😤. SM seriously needs to work on better protecting their artists.
The "incident" doesn't look as real tho. The "student" was just casually walking up to her and how come did the staff not notice any of this was happening? How come they only reacted when Taeyeon was already "dragged off" and not when he was only approaching?
That guy punching the young girl: yeah there's no way I believe what she said about it being a joke. Even though it was blocked by someone walking into the shot, there's no doubt in my mind he punched her for real. To hell with him.
Even if he didn't punch her it's weird for a grown man to be pretending to punch a 15 year old girl in the first place
Right? Also.. He totally punched her. She was rubbing her arm.. It's so obvious. She didn't expect it to be caught on camera either, so her rubbing her arm was a real reaction.
if it was a joke he would have smile or laughed and even tho that's weird at least its better than actually hitting her. But he didn't, he didn't smile or laughed he walked away looking angry af and she was rubbing her arm meaning he actually hit her. disgusting.
Yeah, the way he 'shrugged' her off and swung his arm at her was so aggressive.
It infuriated me
That comedian definitely hit her. It's so disgusting that the agency denied that it happened instead of protecting their artist.
I don't mean to make it worst for you but if you're interested to know there was an earlier incident involving her when a co star called her a bit*h same thing happend he was fired and the company brushed it off
Seriously like they’re just trying to make this go away so downplay it all so it doesn’t make them look bad because they had these type of people who behaved like this and did it towards a young girl
u can see he’s clearly how like pissed off he is with how he so sharply ripped away from her grasp and punched her which u can’t see the direct contact but see how he pulled his arm back to do it and the sharp and loud sound it makes even on a set with lots of background noises. And see how angry he looks before and after hitting her, and never did anything that would show her he was just “joking”.
I think she just agreed with their story and stuff because she doesn’t want to look like she’s “troublesome” and I mean that as in other companies thinking if they hired her she would speak out about the toxicity and such. Like how many actresses didn’t speak out on sexual harassment and such until me too happened because they felt they couldn’t and if that did they could be blacklisted or something.
chuu's situation was so weird, like the staffer really pulled a chunk of her hair, "to get her attention". i wouldn't even do that to my friends? it feels so disrespectful. and she just did the interview and the rest of the show with a big smile on her face. props to her for the professionalism but she was probably shocked and uncomfortable
that incident combined with bts saying they didn't even have a waiting room at music shows or celebrities wouldn't even make eye contact with them or reject taking photos with them makes me wonder how badly idols are treated if they're not from a big group or company
Which celebrities treated bts like that? I’m gonna avoid those toxic celebs. And yea I agree that pulling someone’s hair especially a big CHUNK is not ok. Like wtf
@@00.miu_ bts never revealed who those people were just that it was senior groups and celebs that were more famous at the time before bts themselves became huge.
It makes me remember when a celebrity invited monsta x to their marriage and made them sit on the ground it was when they were rokies
WHAT IF SHE WASN'T EVEN SHOCKED CAUSE SHE OR THE OTHER MEMBERS ARE ACTUALLY MISTREATED 🥺
hey, i just want to say that just because chuu smiled it off doesnt mean its professional. idols CAN show their anger on the staff or continue the interview without a smile, that does not mean that is not professional. they have feelings too, so they are allowed to act according to the staff's behaviour. the meaning of the word professionalism has changed so much in kpop that there are still idols who think they have to not react to situations like this one, and just smile it off because of this term professionalism
I never believed when MBC said that the staff member tapped Chuu's shoulder before pulling her hair the person clearly pulled Chuu's hair first🙄
yeah, I agree 😤
The thing is even if the staff member did tap her on the shoulder why the fuck is he pulling her hair. Both actions are wrong. He shouldn’t be pulling anyone’s hair and dragging them
MBC is a total shit. Plus what they did during Tokyo Olympics was just..smh
@@theresiad.a2236 what did they do???
@@southpawpaw7214 during Tokyo Olympics opening, their program introduced some country with unrespectful manners and sensitive topics, especially towards third world/developing country. It was a big scandal that the CEO of MBC had to formally apologize to press media.
The chaeyeon and chuu incidents infuriated me especially since they were so blatant and if anyone touched me in they way they were treated I would've gone absolutely hysterical
You can protect idols from stalkers and sasaengs,
yet how can you protect them from the abusers that literally were their own bosses/staffs?
How could we know whether the members were living in dangerous situations or not?
Exactly,they are being abused by the very same people who are supposed to protect and care for them,these people are just literally taking advantage of their position over these vulnerable idols
Geezs thanks for adding more weight to my mind:(
Hold up, Sera got bashed by her company, for being concerned about the youngest of the group?! Nah, sue them honey, ruin them, do anything to get rid of them
You must be American with your "sue them, ruin them" remark. That's not how things work. I'm not agreeing it was right but they all signed a contract
@@GyeongmiBaeb You know what is in their contract? What? Does it say that they are not supposed to be concerned about other members?
Gosh I remember the gun shot one I was so scared and mad at the crew for such a lame prank. A prank is supposed to be funny but here dude c'mon... He almost passed out of fear look at his eye
"L'âme" is see French there lol
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@@multinsomnia5455 a hahahaha j'avais pas fait attention 😂 😂 merci, je corrige 😝
@@heya0330 pas de pb😌
The controversy of this idol hating and being disgusted by his fans isnt surprising
Many idols dont debut because of the fandom and being an artist, instead to get fame and be a soloist or actor after the group disbands
Honestly I’d feel the same way about being invaded by strangers 24/7 lol
@@brennathecatlover4360This aspect as well I forgot
@@Carolina-bw6gy like I love hanging out with people but I don’t want a bunch of strangers in my personal space 24/7 lol
@@brennathecatlover4360 literally same, and so many fans are creepy and disrespectful. i wouldn’t be surprised if most idols said this behind the scenes, i don’t blame them
@@amanda4540 if I was an idol I’d be canceled every single day cuz if I’m bothered by something someone does I’m gonna rant haha
I'm wondering how and why people still want to become kpop idols. The happiness you see in front of the cameras is fake. Violating human rights, restrictions, abuse, shaming, haters, creepy fans, debt, physical and mental health illnesses. Living with a lifelong trauma because of a few years of recognition is not worth it. Only a small percentage of kpop idols make it to the top and they must be extra lucky for the company management. Most kpop idols just suffer.
Yeah I understand that but look, they’re scouted at a very young age, and sometimes are from a totally different country. They’re just kids and want to become singers, they don’t necessarily know what truly happens behind the scenes. X company shows up, tells them they are gonna make them the next big thing in kpop and before they know it the kids end up signing a contract that forces them to do as the company says.
Some start training at 9, if not even before that. Then have a debut during their teenage years (e.g HyunA literally debuted at 14). At that age you’re not conscious of the gravity of the situation.
This is my opinion, but I don’t think companies should be scouting anyone under a certain age. These idols deserve to have a normal childhood and at least finish High school.
@@heretostay558 Exactly! There should be an age regulation!
Moreover, I'm still surprised that parents allow their children to sign up, even though they know how it works in the industry. They should fight for the improvement of the conditions for idols OR choose other ways to support their child's talents.
NOTE THIS IS NOT MY OPINION
many want to be an idol simply because they want to have a career as an idol.
and one other reason is idols get paid alotttt if youre even a little popular so how alot of people view it is, sacrifice your 20s and quit , live rich for the rest of your life.
@@MeAmLoveU Where did you get the idea that Idols get paid a lot? Many many popular idols were in debt for years after their debuts. The ones who get paid a lot are big names like BTS and Blackpink. Many idols after leaving their group have gone on to talk about how it took them years to get out of debt despite their fame.
It happens in all countries industries...Remember America's " Me Too" movement? It's the industry, boys and girls alike are abused. They want to be famous and make a lot of money so they put up withit.
To add more context to the Sechskies “prank” that I found out about recently: This was a part of a kind of variety show where they did a lot of stuff like this. Also, before idols were on the show, they had a scripted “horror” segment that would include violence and even suicide. The plots surprised me because of how much media censorship there was at the time.
They did a similar prank on H.O.T around that time saying Tony had a contagious infection and not to touch him. Heejun caved though when Tony said he needed to go to the bathroom and didn’t have the strength to walk. Heejun put Tony on his back and was making his way out of the room right when the show decided to end the prank. Heejun tried to pull the same prank on Kangta, but Kangta broke down in tears, so Heejun broke character (which was something the members had a habit of doing in these situations) and told him he was fine.
Compared to other some of the other “horror” skit synopses on the show, I think both groups got off lightly - even though the show a bit before that time was vocally against idols appearing and didn’t talk nicely about them. However, Sunghoon was (understandably) really upset by it even long after the filming was over.
EDIT to add: The show was called 기쁜 우리 토요일 or "Our Happy Saturday". It ran from 1994-2001 and was adult-oriented at the beginning and that was when the horror segment mainly ran. As idols became popular, it switched to being teenager-oriented.
What's the variety show's name?
that show sounds so messed up. and knowing how tight the members of both groups are, it's unthinkable how stressful they must've been for getting pulled into those situations and to have them think their close friends were hurt
Wait, is that the same show where they kidnapped Dominic by a "sasaeng" and made him do and say stuff to her because he was begging for his life?
I was digusted by that actress that she went that far. .
@@LabiLady wait what? where is this from?
@@LabiLady omg I do know abt that incident! Didn’t they make him kiss the sasaeng??
I really wish so many Kpop companies weren't run by abusive, predatory men (and sometimes women, but mostly men if we're honest here).
I’m sure there’s more just as bad women in the industry than we think tbh
You can say that for any entertainment industry, not just Korea. What a Numb nut you are.
@@alonsocruzat3916 Speak proper English.
@@alonsocruzat3916 No numb nut. You’re just a pedantic butt hurt snowflake who understands nothing about context.
@@JohnLee-db9zt Not everyone is fluent in English, fuckboy.
The person who did that to chuu should've lost his job, that's so unprofessional and it's obvious that he never tapped her shoulder
Even if he did tap her he had no right to pull her hair,that's like a form of assault and disrespect
not pulling someone's hair is obviously common sense. it's not like you would go up to a stranger and do that, let alone someone you are supposed to interview... 🤨🤔
That CF “prank” is so awful. Pranks are supposed to be funny and maybe a little embarrassing, not traumatizing like this. They went way, way too far. There is absolutely nothing funny or okay about that.
Where can i watch it
But he deserves it now even though this was before he called BtoB and other people "ugly".
I'd heard a little about the stalker in this video but he is next level creepy when you see how close he was to them on the flight, the idol needs to slap a restraining order on him. The whole "upskirt camera angle" thing is gross and I can't believe someone got reprimanded for covering their legs. The CF prank is sickening, you can see the poor guy is traumatized thinking he's shot and killed his best friend.
Even if the staff member tapped the girls shoulder he has no right to pull her hair at ALL and drag her. That is disrespectful and disgusting.
I wholeheartedly doubt that her and the CEO are on good terms.
Kinda ironic that South Korea is all about honorifics and respect, but then these people physically abuse young idols...
Look at the girl from busters face.
He actually hit her and they made her lie about it and her or her parents were having that
I like how the staff noticed Taeim's behaviour and shut her up real quick
To be fair, respect is a HUGE thing in Asian culture. Yewon was being awfully disrespectful by speaking informally to her senior and someone older than her. Whilst smirking as if she hadn't done anything wrong, even after Taeim told her she was speaking informally. But yes, things were getting ugly and both were in the wrong. In short, do not go against what is highly valued in your culture.
@@hamisyummers8664 even if you’re that upset over informal speech an actual responsible adult would have said “don’t speak informally, it’s disrespectful due to our difference in age/position/etc. Understand?” They wouldn’t blow up and act like a child and humiliate someone…
@@saram3449, Well, too bad. It still isn’t fair to be hating one party, when you can hate both parties.
@@hamisyummers8664 I’m not hating anyone wtf…. Also too bad? Too bad for what? That people aren’t taught manners?
@@saram3449, I didn’t say you hate anyone. I meant to dislike, because we know for sure that South Koreans are especially serious when it comes to attitude especially in celebrities.
And it’s too bad that both of them weren’t able to have mutual respect for one another during the set. So chill a little.
lmao I remember the hawayong incident, it was so embarrassing 💀 but then so many fans realise how much idols had to go thru everyday. what they said on camera probably not what they really meant. there are idols sincerely said that but we don't know how many out there feels the same way as he is. after all they're also human and can feel discomfort at times
huh, so you think his fans have a better life than him?
The "prank" they did to Sunghoon was one of the most distateful things i could ver imagine doing to someone, making them think they shoot their friend???!!!!! Who in their sane mind would ever think that is okay or somehting to laugh about???
This was during the 90s, when in that year, no one gave a shit. Everyone wanted fun. Fun fun and fun.
It wasn't mentioned in this video but just so people realize how serious Nayeon's stalker situation is. Firstly he has obtained a lot of personal information such as Chaeyoung's phone number which he leaked to the public which caused Chaeyoung herself to speak out against him. He also supported Mina's stalker who showed up at her family home in Japan while she was there on hiatus for her mental health. In addition he has mentioned on several occasions said that he believes that if a person causes you heartbreak, you have a right to murder them. He has also said that he is certain that Nayeon wouldn't break his heart, but he still said that if she did he would not rule out the possibility of having to kill her and then himself. He is deeply disturbed but unfortunately he is receiving help from other saesangs and obtaining a lot of information. Please do not try to communicate with him as this agitates him and causes him to become more extreme. If you see anything just report it to the platform (twitter, youtube etc) and screenshot what happened for proof and send that to JYPE.
Perfect World lyrics are the perfect response to the situation TWICE faced. I'm very glad they are all safe.
That stalking is terrifying. They should've got interpol involved.
7:43 It is nice to see how they at least try to protect each other. She left the performance immediately to go after her.
BRO DEFINITELY DID *NOT* TAP CHUU ON THE SHOULDER
There CLEARLY wasn't enough time!!
There was no way that the staff even slightly tapped Chuu's shoulder.
By "slightly tapped" he meant he mentally tapped, with no verbal/gesture warning whatsoever, and then he proceeded to assault her by yanking her hair... what an idiot of an excuse.
@@hamisyummers8664 Ikrr I am highly pissed
the hwayoung one is so 😐. imagine being that ungrateful to people that support you? i can only hope that the idols i like are genuine when they say they love their fans but we can never truly know…
I kinda get it tho, its exhausting and annoying catering to all sorts of fans that are crazy, lusty, and weird, not a lot of boundaries.
But if your gonna be an idol, then being around people is gonna be part of the job, it's a sacrifice for pursuing a entertainment position.
@@cherryblossom7120 i def get not liking fans like sasaengs or ones that make you uncomfortable, but if its the ones that just support you and dont do anything weird then its very ungrateful in my eyes yk? 😭
@@cherryblossom7120 I get the hi touch thing, touching so many people is weird and can be unhygienic, but straight up dissing them was just dumb. Without fans there isn't idols. Mind you I do believe some fans take it WAY to far.
I kinda get where hes coming from tho. Imagine having to touch 700 o 800 hundred people without getting tired of it and having to vent to a friend in private.
But yeah, the friend leaked it and now he seems like a total asshole, but I cannot avoid have some empathy for idols who constantly have to act like they are the Boyfriends or girlfriends and have their boundaries traspassed by people they ultimately don't know.
Also, I like being called girl by friends and so, but not by people I dont know anything about
@@cherryblossom7120 True, and he said their breaths smell. If they really did smell, then I really feel for him. Yall don't brush your teeth or anything? I bet most of them didn't have a mental condition.
some of these are hard to watch cuz jeez... there's also a video of an old staff member looking like he was going to hit Jungkook of BTS and it shocks me cuz he was so young and this probably happens a lot with so many trainees and idols. I'm so glad idols nowadays are speaking out even more and this time people are listening to them instead of the old saying "that's what being an idol brings"
Bruh that accidentally killing your friend prank was evil and vile then and it's evil and vile now.
What’s sad about all these cases is that most of the people apologising only apologised because they were forced to by the public or justice system, they see nothing wrong in their unjust actions. It’s sad really
I love your videos so much! Thank you so much for putting time into making these!
Thank you so much for watching!🔮💜
these are so awful i cant imagine what else might happen off camera :/
True
Seniority power gap in SK is seriously f*cked up for me.
Althought I agree that older people should be respected, I do not agree how it seems to be forced and abused in many occasions.
Koreans take it to the next level. Even among Asians their rigid insistence on senior hierarchy is exceptional
Almost all Asian countries has seniority things going on. Even my country we should respect our elders event if they are bad people. I do believe elders should be respected but respect is earned. My uncle who is around 70, he constantly touch teenager girls b00bs and try to assault them yet my parents and all these people respect him so much jus cos he's the 'oldest leader' and one of the most respected in our church. I feel disgusted whenever I go near him and I feel scared.
*sorry for ranting
@@biakkompa8107 What country are you from?
@@biakkompa8107 shit, are you ok?
That CF Frank was cruel af. I would be enraged and not talk to my bestfriend again if I were in his position.
I'm kind of on Yewon's side. Yes, speaking to your seniors informally is disrespectful in many cultures, but I think the reaction to it is so over the top. I'm native and in my tribe we're taught to respect our elders and seniors--even if they're complete douchbags. That's one tradition I don't really care for because I'm the kind of person who calls it as it is and won't respect anyone if they don't show me the same respect, even if they're my senior. Honorifics and reverence for seniors is overrated and I like how Yewon didn't give any f*cks about it. I guess I like seeing kpop stars being rebellious because they're expected to do everything by the book.
Its not rebellious, its rude. Especially the way she repeated it with a smirk. It looks like she was trying to piss the other girl off
@@raygin6581 you don't know if the senior was being a bitch, yewon wasn't the victim but she isn't the bitch here she literally barely spoke
@@shaunyjimenez9637 i never said she was?? All i said is that she was rude
I don't think anyone should take anyones side. She was being disrespectful (not rebelious) and kept being disrespectful, while the other was using bad words (which she shouldn't have). There both wrong.
While I understand your reasoning, it was not an act of rebellion, she was looking down on the actress. Korean formal speech patterns indicate hierarchy: by speaking informally to to someone who’s ‘ranked higher’, you are not freeing yourself from that system, instead you are using the same system but simply placing yourself at an unnecessarily high position. Given that she had much less life and professional experience, it was arrogant of her to put herself on the same level as if they were equals. She was looking down on the actress by disregarding her senior’s place in the hierarchy. Add to that the typical high school bully glare, and there’s no doubt she was being disrespectful. I remember first hearing about this case and not getting the problem, but now after living a few years in Korea, I can understand why the actress blew up like that. If the girl truly wanted to be rebellious, she could have spoken up against the actress on the show, instead, like a sly fox, she spoke down to her in a very casual way when she thought she was off camera.
I dont even need to know what happened to Chuu or what the staff did, all I need to do is look at Hyunjin facial expressions (cause when Hyunjin doesn't like something she does this face to signal that she doesn't like what happening or disagrees with what a person has said, she's just a queen like that) so even if the staff said that they didn't pull Chuu's hair, we will always be backed up by Hyunjin facial expressions
I wish chuu would've smacked him on his face. I know she would've. I trust in our queen hyunjin on such matter but unfortunately the video is too blurry to clearly watch their facial expressions. If you know the source for clear quality please share.
I know to speaking to your elders informally is rude but the way taeim reacted wasn't okay at all
Where are you from?
I feel like if you're not Korean then you can't really understand the gravity of the situation - their culture is very diff from America, etc.
@Taehyung?tea hyung?don't use culture as an excuse to cover verbal abuse,she was being straight up mean and narcissistic to her junior,that's not how a senior should behave
@@DaughterofMother1 Obviously they were both in the wrong. But I was saying that since Koreans are very serious about respecting elders, it's more understandable that she would get annoyed quickly-- especially when the other girl kept on speaking informally.
@@DaughterofMother1 Don’t be that ignorant douche foreigner who thinks you know what’s best for Korea.
That dude hitting Chaeyeon is always so sad to me, the fact that hes working with her, her being so young and having to put up with that, if he did that while theres an audience imagine what he was doing while nobody or only few people were watching
The V-Live situation was very scary & definitely uncomfortable for the girls :((
Nayeon’s case is the most terrifying to me. Imagine someone knows where you are and maybe what you do, I can’t even dare to breathe.
The last one really pissed me off. I will never understand ungrateful celebrities. Does he not realize that if it weren't for those same fans, he wouldn't have even had the opportunity to perform on the stage 🤬
yeah ur right if it weren't for them he wouldn't be able to be a famous celebrity
I mean- yes he was super disrespectful, I don't mean to justify or defend him specifically but idols go through a lot of shi and you can't blame them for sometimes feeling tired of talking to strangers. Either way, there are many things in this video that are definitely worse.
I remember how shocked I was with chaeyeons one bc he was so aggressive all of a sudden, it was honestly scary.
of course, all of these situations are scary and bad!! It’s so unsettling that they have to go through things like this :/
With clear video proofs like that and some of them still keep in denial, clearly that comedian hit her arm and his facial expressions clearly look annoyed, and that manager also clear as a day pulling Chuu's hair like that. They think people are stupid or what.
I know that protecting privacy is very very important, but it could expose some dirty ass people like those abusive staffs and manager tho :'(
Taeyeon's incident still had me shocked when it came out. It made no sense to me HOW he was able to get backstage and be able to get up on the stage. It just goes to show how lacking their security is or they just have too many staff members running around to actually care about a wandering nobody until it got to that point where he's ruining a show. Taeyeon actually ended up on the ground out of shock after being dragged to the side. Sunny had a firm hold of her the whole time before the MC and another staff member tackled the assailant down. He was just crazy, plain and simple. Now the hair pulling. That's BS. He "claims" to have tapped her and then pulled her hair. Am I blind or are you, sir, blind? The video clearly shows you going STRAIGHT for her hair. And even if you did tap her shoulder, the most appropriate way to drag someone away is by their arm. NOT THE HAIR. Shamelessly lying to preserve his job. Here sir, lemme pull YOUR SHORT HAIR to the office so we can have a nice discussion on how much that actually HURTS and how UNPROFESSIONAL it looks to outsiders and embarrass you as I DRAG you by your hair.
can you do a full video on 9muses? their story is so heartbreaking but i always feel like i can never find enough proper information on it to feel like i know it well
Everglow vlivet too! I still dont believe the statement saying it was nothing
Thank you for accurate captions, i love this channel for it
I love that you made this video because abuse is rampant and always covered up unless there is absolute proof.
As we see by the few cases in this video the perpetrators get a slap on the wrist.
There's a lot I haven't seen and I was disgusted. The truly scary part is if things get caught on camera you know the abuse is off the charts off camera.
It's abuse by people in positions of power and seniors that includes abuse by other celebs towards other celebs.
That's why no one should be placed on pedestals because we never know who is an offender behind cameras.
It's always covered up by everyone who knows either due to fear or because violent abusive people get off on it and there's no one to rein them in.
Please keep making important videos and content that addresses serious issues within the industry because Korean celebrities do not have the freedom or power to speak out against their abusers.
Imagine being abused and being forced to make a statement (by the people who are there to protect you) saying it was just a joke nothing happened! It's absolutely crazy it's a constant cycle of abuse.
I feel so bad for Chaeyeon, that man should not be in any show!!.... gosh and that MBC staff, so disrespectful... why is it so difficult to treat the idols kindly, they dont have to be extra nice or whatever... just even basic level of respect as a human...
sigh.... this world
The way Sunny went with a killing face trying to protect her friend from that guy. Respect.
What hwayoung said about the fans behind their backs made me doubt the sincerity of my favs lol
every idol is instructed by their companies how to act and all so....
@Ra lee I would argue all idols from the bands you listed don't truly and I mean truly love their fans... I mean sorry but lets take Chen (or the rest of the exo members how would they feel btw losing a band member they knew and grew up with) for ex. would still loovee their fans after kicking him out cuz he has a wife? Yea I don't think he would say "yeah I love my fans after blaming me for living a normal life, threatening my wife and made me lose my job"... Or Bts cuz I'm assuming youre talking abt JK having a tattoo... I do believe he's grateful since armys gave him this opportunity to make his dream come true.. But thats all. All idols are normal human beings, they love his/her gf/bf, family and friends. They all say what their company instructed them and yall fall for it forgetting being and idol is a job
@Ra lee I do believe Chen is grateful for those who defend him and all cuz those are his actual fans.. I really disliked see him leave. Hes truly a talented singer.. So bad we lost such an amazing voice within' Exo but my points remain the same... What do the other Exo members believe abt this? And it either may be that they choose to keep their private life a secret and afraid someone will find out eventually or don't really care and choose to go with the flow which I highly doubt it since their companys policy and all. Since they saw the outcome as their main vocalist did... They would obv think its far fetched and hate/dislike having a gf and not being able to go out without being recognized or living a normal life ... And let me say.. All of them have gf / bf cuz they're attractive young men. What makes you believe they're single? Imagine the impact that would have on stupid idiotic obsessed fans...they simply can't say they are in a relationship ... Like bighit for ex..I truly pity Bts. Imagine having fans that you are so scared of to show your gf/bf .. You are dreaming if you believe they're truly in love with their fans and that includes all kpop idols.. And I don't get me wrong.. They have all the right to that..some fans really thrist way too much its embarrassing... Imagine JK reading a fanfic or the comm.sect. he would feel embarrassed for gods sake.. Cringe af... And then die..they don't LOVE YOU they profit out of your obsessions... Also what you see on camera dosent reflect their actual personality lmao....dont be dumb. They were trained for years to deceive kids like you to fall for them and buy their albums... You take way too much praise in those tattoos :)) they mean money and accomplishment... not some obsessed fans they will never know lmao
@Ra lee lmao ok lets say you do know the difference between "love and in love" but many kpop fans dont...but still you seem to forget the fact that all idols know they're filmed and can't actually show their true personality.. its astonishing how many naive fans believe they know everything abt how they act.. they have contracts and its a job..."family type of love"? really? they say nice things because they have to, otherwise you won't buy their albums etc. thats how they make money. I can tell one of your biases is Jk because you seem to take pride in that tattoo its really not that big of a deal...every culture choose carefully what their tattoos should be..my points remain the same, its a big part of his accomplishments thats abt it..Also not like I believe you but even if you know someone in the industry. Its not like theyre always close to idols and know what they do/act on regular basis.. so...that piece of information is useless :))...
@Ra lee the only one whos stupid is you for refusing to accept the obvious truth..have a good day and dont spend your parents money on kpop idols bye
They call that a prank? That's called HARRASSMENT. It's malicious and can cause serious mental trauma.
I work in a really big company that it’s internationally known. I got abused many times verbally and physically. It has been almost 6 years now since i started working in there. I didn’t opened that up to my mother thinking that it would break her heart to know that her precious child being treated like that. And these people are had to go through those by on camera thinking how their parents feel like when they see those. As a child you don’t want to worry your parents so i’m sure there are many things that they hide and can’t admit on public to protect their loved ones. Sometimes you can’t quit because of economic situations and how hard you worked for that position. You just try to keep your mental state in good and think that it will over soon. I’m sure when they denied those abuses they were just trying to keep their image clear and think that it will over soon too
Sometimes it terrifies me what goes into creating entertainment…
what the stalker named josh is doing to nayeon is horrible. he says that if he finds her with another guy, he would find her and kill her. he says he would do that because he loves her. he is scaring me so bad. i really hope he does nothing bad to nayeon and that she will be okay.
I don't know if they did but there needs to be in place with police and security in Korea that if he enters he will be arrested and in other countries venues need his picture put up incase he shows up and mix the cars up with tented windows kind of like the president does but obviously more scaled down. Also lots of bodyguards aswell
Sorry but no. How can someone be so pissed over informalities to start a childish fight like that just because she’s older? Wow. And then to insult the younger person by calling her a “bitch”? I don’t care what your culture is, there’s some major overreacting there…
I understand what you’re saying but over there they take it seriously and it was obvious she did it on purpose, sometimes it’s not up to us to decide things for them (outsiders that’s not korean or in the country). Respect should go both ways, you don’t provoke someone but at the same time she didn’t have to yell at her. Regardless we should respect their rules.
@@memestealer8430 i think you can call someone with informalities if you’re close but either way she shouldn’t have snapped like that, she could just been like “hey sorry i don’t feel comfortable with you speaking informally to me” and it would’ve been fine
@@jelliblue That’s what I was thinking too cause I have seen some speak informal because they were close, the whole situation is just bleh
@@memestealer8430 ikr the whole situation is split 50/50 lmfao
Well both of them are korean and know their culture so of course she's gonna be angry, because she knows that girl did it on purpose to piss her off. And when you get annoyed by someone and adress it and the person still continues of course you gonna be angry🤷♀️
Guys thats so funny, imagine i prank my school by bring a fake gun that looks real and then start playing sounds of guns shooting, so funny😐
Releasing statements/ making a video is stupid. Cause the idol can’t come out n say ‘ they did this and that’ like no that would be stupid as they’d either get seriously hurt or fired.
i almost acknowledge everything except sera wtff is that really her? like the one and only ryu sera?
Yes it is
Right? I watch her videos and I couldn't believe what I saw.
If that CEO did that today in 2021 to Sera, there would be no place in this world he could hide.
And when he was found, it would not go well for him and he would regret what he did.
Poor Sera, I feel she will be forever tied to that documentary, even though she wants to move on,
This is a great topic for a video. I hope there are opportunities to make more of these.
You put very short part of Yewon, Taeim thing. I remember back in the days when it actually happened and full videos etc were revealed her telling unnie you told me that I can talk indormal to you, or something like that. So, it kind of looked like the ill-intention older celebrity trapping the younger one to make her bad. Younger people should always be careful while talking to their elders, even if they tell you you can sprak informal, until you spend tones of time with them to be sure you can trust them.
Omg
No wonder she looked so surprised in the video
The jiwon thing is so heart wrenching to watch like wtf
I've had so many arguments with people where they basically come back with "Korean culture is different, you can't just enforce your own morals and values on Kpop, they all signed a contract and agreed to be idols." Abuse is not a value, and it's not Korean culture. Gtfo with that crap, fake stans.
you are really my fav kpop youtuber!
love your video ideas + quality of your videos :D
+ your intro ;)
Thank you so so so much!! 🔮💜
That prank on shooting your co-member was just maddening.
What’s up with these bullies? Isn’t it bad enough these young children get taken away from their families and have to suffer so much? There should be rules/laws against physical abuse. There’s no reason or excuse for hitting/bullying anyone. I hope all these abusers got fired.
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I remember there was a filmed prank where a "female sasaeng kidnapped" a male idol and demanded they get married. The male idol in question was pleading to be free and said he would do her a favour, which she told him was a kiss on the lips which he did. After that kiss, the prank was revealed. I am pretty sure he even cried during the prank because he thought it was real.
Another incident was when a female idol with a water type phobia was forced by the staff members to enter a pool or something and she cried out not to do that because she was terrified.
The Yewon and Taeim incident shouldn't have gotten so damn big... People need to really stop butting into everything and mind their own frickin business. That was something between them and the person filming should get a FIRM SLAP on the goddamn hands.
These companies should be protecting their artist against these stalkers. That one that pulled the girl off the stage got far too close should've been charged for that.
Some of these are straight up abuse by staff that needs major legal action and possible termination. I understand training is hard work but nobody deserves any physical or verbal abuse. What makes them think it's okay or the norm to do that? There is a difference between little jokes, friendly taps, etc and actually hurting somebody. To any of the staff members who actually did that to trainees, idols, and even other staff members, you should be ashamed of yourself, punished, and terminated. Again, this is to any staff members who actually did some sort of abuse towards those people. Nothing justifies it at all. I will speak up about that. To anybody that had to go through that, I am so sorry.
I'd seen some of these before, but some were new. I want to cry for the abuse these poor people had to go through.
So the member of nine Muses was doing the right thing and being concerned about the younger members having to wear garters and she got punished for it. That’s really effed up. This is why minors shouldn’t debut in K-pop until they’re 18.
the 9 muses documentary was my introduction to kpop. I started the video just out of curiosity and couldn't stop watching it because of how terrible the girls were treated and I never knew this side of kpop.
That CF prank is way too far :/
Oh btw I don't know if you noticed but you forgot to put "Nayeon's stalker" part in the description😊
Maybe it was on purpose but I still wanted to notify it to you!
I don't understand why anyone would want to be in the kpop industry, or any industry for that matter. It's a toxic environment. Not only are the idols/artist physically abused but emotionally and mentally as well. It's just disgusting how these companies treat people.
12:25 , 13:37 in all these released staments, the company means that they will try their best to hide these kind of things from camera but continue to do them backstage.....
thank you
Chuu being bullied was so heart breaking and then when she left loona they tried to paint her as a greedy mean girl. After reading the reports of all the shit they did to chuu on top of stealing the loona members money I'm so happy the girls escaped i hope their doing much better now
9:10 the nayeon stalker was (is?) So deranged that this man started sending messages to people nayeon was publicly close with, for example, Yeri. A lot of fans noticed her comments flooded with his comments until he was either blocked or he stopped on his own.
He needs help. Seriously.
Even if he tapped her shoulder, he waited like one second for her to make a response. It would have been enough to just wait a little or tap again. I don't understand what makes someone think it's ok to grab someone by the hair when they don'trespond right away???
im glad Sera is doing better now and she is doing amazing on her own youtube channel but she had a harsh past.
wow i did not know about sera’s situation as much, glad she’s doing better now or at least i hope so
8:45 Ok I agree that his behavior is absolutely not ok to do, stalking and following a celebrity/ for you it's a total stranger which also is not ok.
But this question has been annoying my mind for a long time now...
Why is it that if it's publicly known that sb. is German that I feel like that it's being pushed into the foreground too much?
It's always there when sb talks about them and it's in the sentences almost like a statement, I understanding that it's part of the information that we have, but I feel like that people say their nationality more often or it's like the second word in a sentence when sb is German, compared to sb whose for example British.
I can understand that's often not to malicious paint every German as a bad person but it's still sounds like "oh look at them, once *again* these bad bad guys did sth..."
It confuses me a lot, or I'm just a bit sensitive when I hear the word. Lol
Btw if this guy can't understand that that you *should not* do those stalker things, then I'll right him a respectful, polite but strong letter because man - it *cannot* be the case that he does these things...
If he reads this:
Eigentlich solltest Du wissen, dass man so etwas nicht tun sollte, es ist einfach nur schlecht für alle Angehörigen, Du be.lästigst sie und verschwendest ihre, deine und die Zeit aller anderen.
Überleg doch mal - würdest Du es lieben wenn Leute aufsuchen wo Du warst, findest Du das nicht creepy??
Ich finde es einfach nicht respektvoll und Du gibst ihr auch keine Privatsphäre,
sie arbeitet fast den ganzen Tag, rund im die Uhr - und dann kommst Du und gibt ihr wahrscheinlich keine Ruhe, auch nicht wenn sie sich entspannen möchte was es einfach *nicht* sein kann.
Ich erwarte nicht, dass Du dich über Nacht änderst.
Aber denk zumindest mal richtig darüber nach, ob das keine Belästig.ung ist...
Tschau, Nacht. :D 🌙
Trans.: Actually, you should know that this is not something you should do, it is just bad for everyone you annoy them and waste their, your and everyone else's time.
Think about it - would you love it when people go to where you have been, don't you think it's creepy? I just don't think it's respectful and you don't give her any privacy either, she works most of the day, around the clock - and then you come and probably don't give her any rest, not even when she wants to relax, which it just * cannot * be the case.
I don't expect you to change overnight. But at least think carefully about whether this is a nuisan.ce ... Bye, night. : D
@G&J Thanks for educating me. I wasn't aware that he had a mental illness. So I'll hope that he will get better so in the near future. :D
Entertainment industry is always dirty.
I thought I'd see here the clip where a staff of SBS was saying nasty remarks on BTOB. All the members heard those words in their earpiece but had to continue performing which they did. It was never addressed and they didn't get any apology.
Anyway..our BTOB is above these things.
"I know it is for entertainment but the thing is IT.IS.NOT.ENTERTAINING."
- A LEGEND
Man, crazy how I used to think pranks were supposed to be funny for both parties. Not traumatic for one, and funny for the other. Strange.