Pokémon Meme Review (April 2024)
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- The April 2024 episode of ASPITPIAY, aka Pokemon Meme Review
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I would if i wasn't broke 🥹
When I first saw them, I was like ooo those are cool and then I saw the prices and went oh...
Sadly I can’t
Why do they have to be so expensive, they seem so cool.
Except for Gen 1, every gen has a remake in the gen that is twice its number.
omg. OMG. MINE WAS THE LAST ONE??E?RGHTRHERIHGEPIHTE I'M SCREAMMINGGGGGG. MIKEY THANK YOU SO MUCH I'M LITERALLY WATCHING HIS AT SCHOOL RN (to those wondering obviously my name isn't "and Peggy from Japan" I made that username when I was in the 7th grade during my musical phase and now I live to regret it lmao). I'M SO TOUCHED THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING MIKEY MY BROTHER IS GOING TO FREAK OUT OMG
Hey, you deserve it! I'm glad he showed it! Good luck on your studies, and I hope things get better!
@@thisnameisstupid9133 you’re so sweet, thank you!!
I found you. Hope you have a good life
@@AsherBaier-Miles Bro that sounded creepy at first. "I found you" 🤣
Nah I just was scrolling around trying to find this person's comment cause there's no way they didn't, I also saw both of their reddit posts.
His girlfriends laugh sounded so much like one of those dolls in horror movies I thought it was edited in
Fr fr
Me 2
Same
Yea me to
I LITERALLY THOYGHT THE SAME THING
“Palworld is Pokemon with guns!”
Meanwhile, Officer Jenny dressed as a chansey getting ready to shoot Ash with a rifle
WAIT WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN-
The original series in the kaganskhan episode if I remember correctly@@AcetheGoober
@@AcetheGooberand there was also a banned episode
@@starninja8960yep it is in the Kaganskan kid episode
as a senior in high school who is also around two weeks from graduating, i too grew up watching your videos. thanks for being the joy that quite a few of us needed
that last one!! that's so sweet 🥺 taking the time to film even though you were already done. im soft. thank you for doing what you do, i hope you get to touch the lives of more people
I appreciate Mikey so much for doing that he is an amazing person
I wasn’t expecting something like that. He’s the first RUclipsr I’ve seen do that before and it was sweet. Good job Mikey!! Keep up your amazing videos!
I got teary. Hey, artist, I hope you know that there's a random nerd in Australia who hopes you find the best people in the world and live a long and happy life!
it was the best part of the video
@@alexjake1195 fr tho
The ending is actually so wholesome. We love you Mikey!
IT REALLY WAS
Gave me chills
Agreed Henry
Absolutely amazing agree
I find it funny how when paldea first came out, everyone was saying that we were gonna get a kalos game, but now that we’re getting one, everyone’s suddenly surprised that it wasn’t unova
To be fair the next remakes will be unova but that will be next gen as shown we get a new remake every 2 gens and usually double ak gen 2 being remade in gen gen 4 and 3 to 6.
@@heroofmasksyeah the gen 4 remakes were so good! Like Legends Arceus really surpassed expectations! *don’t you dare say bdsp is a remake*
@@puppies3330 say what u will sadly bdsp were remakes crappy remakes but remakes all we can hope for is ilca don't do anymore remakes
@@heroofmasks We got remakes in 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 8.. is it possible that it's not every 2 gens, but instead that Gen 5 is an anomaly?
@@herowither12354 let's go isn't a real remake it's more alternate timeline the actual remakes come every 2 gens
I’m 27 and I’ve been watching since “what happens inside a pokeball” as well. I’ve been here through all the different intros, channel mascots, and lets plays. Thank you MandJTV. You’re reliable and charismatic as well as an overall great dude.
Same here! That was my first video
Best moments in this video:
The Geico commercial,
Trinity laughing at that one meme,
Mikey giving that last message in the end. I'm glad you know that, Mikey, and hope you always remember it especially when doing the not-so-fun parts of videos and playthroughs. Such as research for videos and grinding for playthroughs
So, now we have ethereal mikey, who exists in eclipse form throughout the entirety of existence.
Sounds dark
I like it!
very DARK
Oh boy, I am in full brainrot rn. I saw Ethereal, and thought of My Singing Monsters
@adiwakoski3380
Msm isn't brainrot don't worry
(pretty opposite infact)
@@deadchannelagainaeeerrrrrr6047 Okay, thank you. I was getting scared that it was gonna be an earworm
@@adiwakoski3380kinda is but it a good way
the songs are so catchy
Very sweet ending! I’m a college gal myself and I’ve been watching you for a few years now - I always describe your channel as my “comfort channel” when asked about some of my favorite RUclipsrs. Pokémon was a huge part of my childhood, as in this period of my life that’s so full of change and growth, I find a lot of comfort in the childlike wonder of watching you play and talk about Pokémon. Thank you what you do! Gotta catch up em alllll✨💕
i’m honestly so glad my post resonated with you, it’s literally making me so giddy rn ngl.
That last post was really resonating with me because I’ve been watching Mikey’s videos for 8 years now and I’m graduating 8th grade this year and I’m terrified to start again in a new school but Mikey has been the only RUclipsr ive stuck with for all this time and really brings smile whenever I see a new video posted.
Best of luck in high school. It will likely be harder than middle school, but try to avoid falling into a depressive state. I can tell you from experience, it's not fun. Anyways, enjoy! There may be more books in the school library available to you, and you may discover new sides of yourself(for me, it was my major anime/manga nerd and animator/visual artist sides). Take the classes you want, but don't lose sight of graduation requirements. If you feel like it, I'm sure you'll be able to make new friends.
I'm acting so wise, but I'm only a 9th grader myself. Classes will get tougher, and if you're not prepared for it, your grades may drop quite a bit below your middle school grades(My math grade between 8th and 1st semester 9th dropped around 11 points). Also, if you're wondering about why I specified 1st semester, my high school runs on a block schedule(4 classes per semester, so 8 classes throughout the year, as opposed to 6). Anyways, good luck!
@@nevaansbooks2078 thanks and I’ll keep you advice in mind!
@@starbound0118 You're welcome! Have a nice time in high school!
The eclipse themed intro was OMINOUS
me when the eclipse happened: DAMN IT NIGHTSKY PUT THE SUN BACK
@@kingaxolotl262 unpopular opinion: nighttime is better then daytime
@Suger_wodon’t translate his comment
@@user-fe9ui3sm1x what does it say?
so true
12:10 i cant believe he missed the joke😭😭😭
Can't believe Magcargo evolves from Slugma,
ftr i didnt either 😭😭
I think he got it; he just didn't wanna say them out loud ;)
Fr
Why are avalugg and swellow there?
As someone who’s graduating this year that ending really hit me. I love you man and your channel. Thanks for all the memories
Enjoy all that free time
11:00
Kid Mikey: Funny Boy is more stupid than me.
Adult Mikey: The same, but tries to justify it.
27:15 I usually don't tear up much outside of something sad, but this was very sweet.
The last fanart thing was super freaking wholesome and I absolutely love it and Peggy if you were to at all see this (which is very unlikely) just want you to know that you've got people rooting for you
thank you!!! reading all of these comments I'm actually so touched 😭
@@jeejay5133 good
16:22 it does actually! I figured this out by looking at the Galar gym leader uniforms and their league card signatures
They’re a made up alphabet that when translated, is the Japanese spelling of words, for example Allister’s uniform has four symbols that translate to “Gost”, the Japanese spelling of “Ghost”. And his signature on his league card uses the same “o” symbol twice in the correct spots when spelling his name, which implies that he signed his Japanese name, “Onion”.
4:08 I'm so used to my fandoms being so niche that I get incredibly excited whenever one of the cc's I watch mentions it... I keep forgetting that HH was quite literally #1 on Prime for a solid week and that a good half of adult YTs have watched it 😭
Ah yes. Sun and Moon. The sixth generation of Pokémon. (minor editing mistake go to jail forever)
Goshdarnit ya beat me too it. ALSO YES JAIL!!!
FBI open up
1:03 Unfortunately that image is fake, Porygon is yet to make an appearance in Pokemon Horizons
Really? Damn that's sad. Haven't kept up with the anime for two three months so I believed that actually
THEY WILL GET REDEEMED ONE DAY!
@@zio_beckhaven’t kept up with the anime ever. Watched gen 1 and xy and xyz when it was on air
I love when stolen art gets onto Meme Review (not)
@@Yokaigamerz oh when talking about that I only watched like the gen 1 and 2 ones like an year ago but then stopped because I realised there were TOO many episodes and gave up. In my previous comment by the "anime" i was mentioning Pokemon horizons only
Lol! Love how Mikey had a full analysis about what Ground, Dark, and Fairy types have in common and @10:02 it was because they're all immune to types that they're also super effective towards and he just says "Oh..." 😅
I first found Mikey’s content around when Pokèmon USUM was announced and found the old fake region video and loved your content ever since. I vividly remember rewatching the entire Pokèmon Talk series from my crappy Kindle and watching freak out at the story of Pokèmon Insurgence. The content has just been getting better and better and I hope that you can go ever farther! 💜
Mikey: I didn't know they let Porygon back into the anime.
How do we tell him?
What do you mean?
@@ShittyAnimationTV The image is fake, I've seen every single episode so far, and still no sign of the Porygon line, plus Sprigatito evolved 2 episodes ago. The artist did an incredible job on it though, not gonna lie. It does look pretty convincing.
But it will show up soon. So they did let Porygon back into the anime
@@Rajd_is what in "The image is fake" don't you understand?
@@Rajd_is source
i've gone to a summer camp where a cabin used "If it's not 100% accurate" as their catchphrase
29:30 that’s so sweet and actually helps me a lot since I’m in my sophomore year of high school and still have only found 1 other person who likes Pokémon/youtube
That ending was so sweet, what a beautiful pair of artworks, story, and response.
6:49
Mikey: Humans haven’t had any guns In the Pokémon series.
That one scene where ash was held at gunpoint in the anime: “are we a joke to you?”
Honestly I played Palworld it is far too Different from pokemon and to even get guns you must Grind for days, But you ain't wrong
@@CheeseNutz2011 what's the relation of the first statement to the second?
It wasn't just one scene. There are countless scenes with everything from rifles, rocket launchers, tanks, explosives, and so on.
Just off hand, I can recall officer jenny with an M1 Carbine, a whole grocery store full of people with MAS 36 rifles, and a whole private army with M16s. And of course team rocket with their rocket launchers.
@@vhfgamer the grocery store one was what I was referencing.
@@vhfgamerteam rocket really did just bomb pallet tiwn
@18:47 that Geico commercial was hilariously brilliant 😂
Where's the sound bit for that meme?
I was laughing like crazy.
I remember back in 1st grade I was a transfer student from the other side of the country (US), because of my new accent and difficulties with speaking, I often got judged by the teachers and in turn the other students hated me. It was only until early June at the end of the school year I had found Mikey's channel for the first time. I don't feel like looking but the video was one about a Wailord making jokes which young me found hilwailious *Snap* (Nice). Several accounts, and almost 9 whole years later I still watch you. Thank you for showing the meme at the end reminding me of my past and brightening mine, and everyone else's lives Mikey.
13:20 Joke aside, it's technically incorrect. All of the Pokémon plurals are also the singular. The anime, games, and manga all make this pretty clear. It's never "Look at all of those Bulbasaurs," but rather, "Look at those Bulbasaur!"
4:54 What I believe they are refering to is this:
Gen 8 -> Gen 4 remakes
Gen 6 -> Gen 3 remakes
Gen 4 -> Gen 2 remakes
Gen 2 itself is revisiting Kanto, so that could count if you don't accept Gen 3 into the rule.
And LGPE is more of a spinoff, so I wouldn't count it as a remake on Gen 7.
Thank you, finally someone gets it
But I don’t understand why would gen 3 be left out
@@ShinyCyndaquil3 cuz it was the first remake, and SINCE the pattern was that regular remakes are on even number gens
@@ShinyCyndaquil3 the reason that breaks the pattern is because gen 2 is too soon for gen 1 remakes, but ever since then they've been only doing remakes in even numbered gens
And by remaster I’m pretty sure it means extra content
Gen 3: Emerald (which is a stretch)
Gen 5: BW2
Gen 7: USUM
Gen 9: DLC
10:20 They put in Rowlett because it is number 1 in the Hisuian pokedex, which (as far as we're aware at this point in time) was the first pokedex.
yea i noticed that too, kinda annoying he didnt see it ;/
@@cogi4829fr
Wouldn’t be fair to assume that Laventon created a Pokédex for his native region Galar and that’s the reason he got the job to create a Pokédex for Hisui?
That GEICO commercial edit was pure gold. Whoever made that, I salute you 🫡
12:12 Mikey managed to completely miss the joke, and also dodged it entirely. Well played sir
13:57 They love cards that are paired. The Perrin card is from Growlithe's perspective, looking up at her (you can see Growlithe reflected in her camera lens) and the Growlithe card is from Perrin's perspective, looking down at it (Growlithe is standing up on its hind legs with its paws on her legs)
26:37 That caught me REAL off guard
That was so creepy WTF! xD
@@mistereiswolf70 sounds like a ghost
12:18 I’m not even a teen, and know a lot of Pokémon, but out of the 1028 Pokémon, THE ONLY ONE I CANT EVER REMEMBER IS THE MIDDLE STAYE OF TIMBURR
1:51 Considering he once got lost on Isle of Armor and end up back on Galar
Getting lost in Galar and end up in Kalos seem totally in character.
Edit: the last one hit hard in the feel
12:08 they all have ‘jokes’ about them. Gulpin, slugma, rhydon. See what I mean
Gulpin deez nuts
DEEZ NUTS LMAO
May mikey stay innocent
Yeah the divine joke is also that since he remembers their names, he very often falls for the joke.
I’ll explain the first Pokémon one.
Arceus- god
Bulbasaur- first Pokémon in the national dex
Rhydon (KEEP THE REPLIES TO YOURSELF)- first Pokémon created by satoshi tajiri when Pokémon was called capsule monsters
Rowlet- first Pokémon in the hisui dex, the first Pokédex.
know what no I di t think I will imma just add dilettante to the list as the first one drawn.
You forgot mew, ancestor to all pokemon
But did arceus create mew or mew is arceus
@@SutaFokusu mew wasn’t on the meme.
Excuse me? Keep the replies to yourself? LOL! What a clown.
Yes, people have the right to respond to whatever you say. Even if you dont like it bud. Get real!
12:51 Legends released in the same calendar year as Gen 9 did, while they aren't going to turn 3, the rest of it is correct
20:29
Missed opportunity to make a space for Mikey mentioning his hate for Miltank
True! I completely forgot about that somehow
26:36 Why do I see some kind of haunted doll whenever I hear this laugh?
That final part was so nice. I'm glad you saw it after the fact. I'm sure you wouldn't have said anything less true, but hearing you respond without the performative aspects that must come with recording one of these made it feel that much more heartfelt and sincere.
Mikey, I must say that last part of the video was amazing. A lot of the time creators seem to forget that the fans are what make them. So I think that it is amazing that you acknowledge that. Keep doing what you are doing because as said by that reddit poster you make an impact to your views I have certainly felt that as well. And also, the fact you had finished recording and still recorded that part is amazing. I wish you to continue pursuing your content creation passion and to keep touching people's lives.
I've been feeling a lot of stress lately, but when I got home from work today, there was this month's Pokemon Meme Review ready for me. Just seeing it in my queue immediately lifted my spirits. I felt cheered throughout, as expected... and then that ending! ❤ All good wishes and congratulations to that young artist! And, yes, Mikey -- you bring laughter and fun into many lives. You make a difference for the better. Thank you (from a viewer as old as Orange, because we never outgrow the really good stuff).
Bro that bit at the end was so sweet and wholesome, thanks for doing what you do, Mikey!
8:40
Grunty boi: How did you do that?
Mikey: I learned from a master
Grunty boi: I'm...charmed
26:54 Mikey grew it around legend arceus
Love Mikey completely missing the joke of the "I just can't seem to remember these names" post
Mikey not getting the deez nuts joke at 12:08 is actually hilarious
Because he’s not PurpleCliffe
I KNEW IT WAS A DEEZ NUTS JOKE, BUT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE. All of them except Avalugg are obvious, and then there’s even the description with “can someone lend an Iron Hand”
@@beatdrop4829avalugg at deez nuts
Was it intentional or coincidence?
Sir pentious (T>T) going to heaven represents Pokémon Z returning.
21:26 that brings a memory to mind. Some old game online had some event about Pocky-mon that was very clearly a reference to pokemon. Unfortunately i was too low level to actually do much at the time. Dont remember the name of the game though.
Didn’t expect to cry at the end of a meme review today…
I just got a comment on the creativity with that opening with the Pokemon meme review Eclipse, twas a once in a lifetime experience. 😂😂
Greetings from the void!
agreed 🌚
*10:27*
Rowlet was first in the Hisui Dex, which is set in the past
Ice, Ghost, poison, and Dragon are all elite four members type specialty. Koga is a poison specialist, Lance, Hassel, and Drake are Dragon. Phoebe is a Ghost type specialist. Ice has Loreli, and Gleaca.
Omg the end of this video! I've simply been watching you for as long i remember, since i found Poketube probably 2016/7 or so and i genuinely think your videos have so consistently been amazing! I always enjoy every video you release and i think that's a testament to how amazing you are! I'm sure many people feel the same and we all love you and your channel!!
I assume the short Pokémon Mikey is referring to is Nidoking? Mikey himself previously made the joke saying it’s literally a short king lol
We are currently 90 days without listening to the Pokemon meme review song...
and also probably around 3-4 months without a Drowsee meme, thank God.
4:54 What they meant was that odd generation games giving us offshoots or something, instead of remakes. Usually with little if any connectivity to other games in the generation.
Gen 3 - Colosseum and XD
Gen 5 - Dream Radar if you discount the sequels
Gen 7 - Lets Go Pikachu and Eevee
And Gen 9 is giving us a Legends game
25:58 by that logic we can connect Mikey to Jetstream Sam, meaning Mikey is canon to Metal Gear lore
27:09 Best part of the video
13:59 the Growlithe can be seen in the reflection of the camera...
11:48 Yes. Yes, the heal ball is much prettier than the quick ball in the context that you are shiny hunting any pink, purple, or pastel colored shiny. I wouldn’t quick ball a shiny hatenna for my LIFE
18:12 mikey’s *regular* run of pokemon platinum: am i a joke to you
WE’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT
Mikey, your fans love you, and I’m glad you’re able to make an impact on people’s lives by doing something you love. I may not be someone who has watched as long as some of your fans, but I hope I speak for all of us when I say that you’re great. Keep up the great work.
Edit: Fun Fact: I’m in Austin in October, and it’s gonna be in America for the first time in my life
18:48 this is probably my favorite one in the slide show. I hope Mikey shows that one to PM7. I am sure he get a good laugh out of it.
9:25 I think the correct answer is that all gym change gymleaders. Giovanni to Blue, Opal to Bede and Piers to Marnie
I think you're right (even though Blue isn't a Ground specialist)
12:08 No one say a word, don’t tell him anything.😐
What’s the joke?
@jordaalexander7922 the pokemon names are these nuts jokes
I got that and hoped Katie would add some context there xD But what was the Avalugg-joke?
Seeing Slugma the joke almost became a reflex, too much Purplecliff I guess xD
@@conlethmurphy5911 it's pronounced "deez" in this context
@@Zweyrohn I think it’s avalugg my…
Don’t count me on that though, my knowledge of deez nits jokes runs far and few
21:00 “if it’s not 100% accurate, it’s 50% accurate”
I didn’t think there was a chance of him saying it again, and then he said in the next two videos!! I’ll put it on next for sure
@@starespe8979 you made the bingo card? Hype! Congrats on making it into the video!
I relate to the last person on the video, going to college. Same background Muslim kid growing up with Pokémon RUclips content. Although I've been lucky with friends who also have a love of Pokémon and my other shared interests. Thank you for your art and best of luck in college. And thank you Mikey for sharing the wholesome moment with us.
17:45 My laugh was perfectly synced and reflected with Micheal, that was freaking surreal.
Edit:18:50 IT HAPPENED AGAIN WHAT'S GOING ON.
"Seems the porygon line is finally getting justice".... if only 😢
That was fan art :(
For a sec i thought the intro was an ad until i heard Pokemon Meme Review
7:11 here when he said “cut it off!” It got cut off with an ad, I find that funny
7:10 I meant
Okay everyone. Now that we know he likes Hazbin Hotel, EVERYONE MAKE HAZBIN HOTEL RELATED POKEMON MEMES
Ok
YES AGREED
Absolutely!
YESS
bet, posts angle dust-
Not to like steal their thunder, but I too am a person who watched your “what’s inside a poke all video” and am graduating high school in less than a month. Though I’ve definitely not been as engaged with your content as I used to be, I still watch every video. Very few (at current no) people around me have been interested in Pokémon, so being able to watch you, who has very similar types of interests in the world of Pokémon, has been incredible. Like you said, while RUclips certainly isn’t a thankless job, I can see how you might fall out of connection with your audience. I wanted to say, you have inspired me and so many others with what you do, and I hope you continue to do it for as long as it makes you happy. Have a good day
Watched Mikey since my first years of liking pokemon. Graduation is only a week or so away and I can’t stop re watching, thank you for all these incredible years( ps the beard made me grow one too)
1:24
Pikachu, who only did it in self defense: I’d prefer to not be blown up.
yeah don't know why people blame it on Pikachu
19:10 is genius!
Grunty Boi: How did you do that?
Mikey: just channeling my inner Magic Mike powers
12:10 "I don't forget Pokémon names." r/whooooooooossshhhhh
That meme went straight over his head, didn't it?
Bro you couldn't see it from where I live 😭 Mikey is honestly brilliant
My friend and I drove from Georgia to Missouri to get a *perfect* view of the eclipse. Not just totality but the full four and a half minutes, perfectly clear skies from a campground
The end of the video nearly made me cry omfg, thank you Mikey!!! 💙😭
Literally got an ad when he said “cut it off”.
3:03 Actually, design elements of Tyrainatar are based on the Ultraman Kaiju of Bemular (According to Lockstin)
Baxcalibur is the original 1954 or 56 Godzilla bcz of it's back spike resembling the original one.
For those who care about Duraludon's rivalry with T-tar, Duraludon might be the 2011 manga Mecha Bemular or the Ultraman's Capsule Monster system of "Windom" Who was an ally since the Ultraman Mebuis Series.
When talking about the remakes, Michael says that in gen 8 we got remakes of gen 4, and showed sword and shield/bdsp respectively. Then he says in gen six we got gen three remakes, which is true, but he showed sun and moon, instead of x/y.
21:17 "I haven't worn gamer goggles in forever", video includes a paid promotions for AR gamer goggles😎
Grunty Boi: How did you steal my glasses?!
Mickey: How did you constantly switch hats that one time?
15:16 Everyone knows the opposite of a Sausage Party is called a Clam Jam 🎉
Petition to bring back the theme song WE CAN DO IT!!!
Return the SONG
Yea i want to hear that Aspitapay
Wait... ASS (pitapay)
No. It was a rip off
You know the old videos with the song haven't gone anywhere right? You can listen to it any time you want
I thought you meant the pokemon talk theme that Mikey stole
7:42 OBJECTION! Penny would already be familiar with the Vaporeon copypasta, as she is terminally online. I do love the fact she’s in a meeting with all the other evil team leaders though.
There was total solar eclipse in our area during my senior year of highschool. The school came up with the idea of giving eclipse glasses to all the students so that we could see the event that wouldn't happen again in 20+ years. It ended up being overcast for the entire time it was in our area. I will never not feel robbed by this.
12:09 mickey, that's a deez nuts joke setup... how could you forget