Great video! I find it interesting that when both Harper and Trout came up it was supposed to be the battle of two greats for the next decade or more. While Harper has been great (probably be in the HOF when all is done), Trout has ran circles around him.
I find it even funnier that I knew who Bryce Harper was when he was 16. I never heard of Trout until he was the Angels top prospect. Still can’t believe that 26 (I think 26. Around that many.) players were picked before him in the draft. What burns even more is that the pick the Angels used for him was a compensation pick that the Yankees had to give them for signing Mark Teixeira.
@@JG54206 I knew Trout as the only weirdo who ever go to the MLB Draft. I watch it I was 13 I was laughing like I hope he comes the best and make create the MLB draft a important thing. At least I was half right.
It’s kinda insane for any credible publication to call any prospect “baseball’s LeBron.” Basketball is easily the most one man centric of pretty much all team sports and in basketball one man can absolutely dominate a game and basically single-handedly win the game. In some circumstances the other 4 guys are literally a distraction. Baseball on the other hand is the complete opposite. Even the best players only bat once every 9 hitters and the best pitchers can still only pitch once ever 3 days on short rest in the playoffs.
Exactly basketball tbh is more dumb down. Where it’s who can make more shots. Where baseball it’s all about strategy into getting runs in preventing runs. As it’s so team driven a relief pitcher is as important as any closer.
@@injectsql hahaha right? Basically his argument is "In basketball you shoot the ball a lot to hope to score more points than your opponent" Oh you mean like just about every sport (and tons of games) in existence? And those big men just throw the ball around with hope and luck? Shit I don't care for basketball but those players put an immense amount of effort in to defense and moving as a team, it's not all just practicing "putting a ball in a hole"
@@KOCChristian baseball is fundamentally harder but basketball utilizes a lot more strategy. You could wing it in baseball a little but in basketball strategy is the difference between the Sacramento kings and the Memphis grizzlies. Both teams have a similar amount of compiled talent(even tho ja accounts for a lot of the grizzlies talent and is a no doubt superstar).
Nice video. I'm glad more people are talking about this lately. I always mention to people the hype about Harper in 2009 and 2010. I was in high school on the other side of the country and during baseball season all the guys on my team were talking about this Bryce kid who started college early so that he could get to the majors. It sounded insane but I always thought it was cool how someone who was our age was getting that kind of attention. Usually we knew the best guy in our state, county, district, etc. but everyone was talking about Harper around summer 2009.
Bro you have such great content and I’m a huge fan! But as a fellow Padres fan how can you mistake Dee Gordon for SD fan favorite Tony Gwynn Jr. at 10:52 :’(
Ys. He came to play in Barquisimeto, Venezuela and Manny Macado was his roommate. Less than 50 mts from than ballpark, there is a soccer stadium where Real Madrid played against Barcelona, the 1st in history outside Spain, between both teams (and just another one after). Every time I am in front of that ballpark, I remember it and tell the story in conversation with friends.
I love him, he's no mike trout but nobody is. He is the definition of a 5 tool player and has some of the best plate discipline I've ever seen. And that swing is so sweet baby..
The Phillies are not regretting a single cent of that contract now. He went OFF last October. Dude hit like .400 with a ton of HR and RBI in clutch moments to send a team to the World Series.
Bryce Harper is one of my favorite players. He is one of the elite players in the MLB right now beside Ohtani, Tatis Jr, Vladdy Jr, and Soto. That is why he won the NL MVP with the Phillies this year. he has a lot of playing time and energy left in his tank.
Those are all of the elite players in MLB? That's it? No Acuna, Jr. or Freeman. Harper SHOULD NPT have won the MVP - he does not deserve that title this year
@@Mox3712 Oh forgot to mention these guys especially Acuna Jr. went down for the season this past July. I mean it is a close call on who should win the NL MVP for the 2021 season. If Acuna Jr. stayed healthy throughout the season, he could have a better chance of claiming the award.
@@poopscoop4907 Harper led the league in SLG and OPS. He was dominated by Soto and Tatis in many categories including WAR. Since they had no problem giving the MVP to a guy on a losing team then Soto 100% deserved it more and arguably Tatis above him. Harper should have finished 3rd. If you want to give the MVP to a "playoff" team then it should have been Austin Riley. Harper had a great season but not really an MVP season. Overall the NL had an odd offensive season. If Tatis played all season he would have won it hands down. The drama of him acting out towards the end of the season probably hurt him. But take a look at Soto's batting like and realize he did it with a bad team around him.
i can’t believe i was at this game. but as a kid i wasn’t even worried about a 19 year old kids debut. my favorite player hit a walk-off home run dad and i are there to see it. much much simpler times.
My dude came to play! Bryce is one of my favorites! I’ll always wonder what if he stayed in Washington ya know? Would he be a World Champion or was he wise to get out? Thanks SportStorm!
The Nats vastly overperformed in 2019. People can say what they want but Harper leaving was the best choice for him. There was zero and I mean zero people who had them pegged as a playoff team, much less a World Series contender.
Doesn't matter. Washington has Soto. Soto is going to end his career as one of the greatest offensive players ever at the rate he is going. As long as they have Soto they won't miss Harper at all.
@@basedpliskin Predictions by outsiders mean little. I really hope that didn't impact his decision, that would be dumb. Granted, I firmly believe the 19 Nats don't win it all if harper stays in DC.
@@fromulus I think that’s fair but I’m more of the opinion that baseball predictors aren’t quite fitted for the modern MLB to begin with. You have to admit that the 2019 season was lightning in a bottle. Starting the season 19-31 through the 1st 50 games in 2019 and finishing at 26-34 through 60 in 2020. And the only notable FA they lost was Rendon yet they were more or less on the same pace through 50-60. But then you get into conversations like ‘how often does the objectively best baseball team actually win the World Series’ which is a conversation for much smarter people.
My lil bro (8) got Bryce Harper cleats for baseball this year. I was tryna tell him how awesome Harper is and had to pull up this and another video to show him how much of the man he is
I seen Trout hit a ball out of the park,over the exit road in the parking lot,over 3 deep parking spot , over the desert wash into the brush . Trout was on the quakes . The park was up @hdmavs park in adelanto. It Has to be 550 ft or more. It lop sided the ball. Harper was in FL at the time. The hype on him was SUPER HIGH . No one was talking about that trout kid at that time.
His bat is special for any position. If he stays healthy enough through the end of his contract and considering he's in his prime right now (only 29 years old), he'll have 600 home runs, 600 doubles, 1,700 runs, 1,600 RBI, 1,700 walks, a .400 OBP, and .900 OPS... and that could possibly be short-selling those numbers if he has a 3-5 year run where he goes off. He had a couple of underwhelming batting average years and that's what made many people sour on his "hype", but even his worst overall year was above league averages. Make no mistake, he's tracking to be in very elite company for all-time offensive players. His first MVP in 2015 is the best non-Barry Bonds season of the last 20 years (yes, even better than the best seasons of Trout, Pujols, Miggy, A-Rod, etc)... and he's not done. I think he's found his home in Philly, he's seemed to have matured a lot ever since he got married and had a couple of kids... I think he's got 2 or 3 more MVP years in him.
So Harper is elite but inconsistent, his swings are substantial but his career OPS is just above 900. Elite for sure, but if he was half as consistent as Trout…he’d be in the GOAT conversation
@@Mox3712 One of only 32 players ever with multiple MVPs, best offensive season of the decade (and probably since Bonds). Since Harper turned 29 on October 16th, the most relevant comparison is to look at how he’s doing compared to others through their “age 28” seasons. Using the biggest “fame-producing” statistic (home runs), only 16 players had more than Harper’s 267 home runs through the end of their age 28 seasons. If you extrapolate his 13 taters from the 2020 COVID season into a full campaign, he would be 14th all-time. If you make another “through age 28” list, Harper is one of just 32 players in baseball history to post a WAR of 40 or more with an OPS+ of 140 or more Which Version of Bryce Harper will we see in the Next Seven-Ten Years? The 2015 version of Bryce Harper is an all-time great, a no-doubt Hall of Famer. The 2016 and 2018 versions, which featured prolonged slumps, were not of Cooperstown caliber. The 2021 version (179 OPS+, 5.9 WAR), if duplicated for 3 or 4 seasons, would also result in a Hall of Fame plaque. Given that, barring a career-ending injury, Harper is likely to be on the field for 10 more seasons, he would only need one or two more seasons of this caliber, with some more 2019-type seasons to fill in the statistical resume. There are analysts with far more sophisticated tools than I who can more accurately predict a player’s future (Bill James, FanGraphs’ Dan Szymborski), but I’m going to do some very crude hypotheticals here. Look at it this way: let’s imagine that Bryce Harper precisely duplicates his average performance of the last three seasons over the next ten years and retires when his contract expires. In this hypothetical scenario, I’m going to presume that one out of every three of these seasons is shortened (as 2020) for injury-related reasons. By doing this, I’m giving credit for a huge year but also assuming that he’s going to have some rough ones. What would his career statistics look like? To find out all we have to do is multiply his average season from 2019-21 by ten and add it to his current numbers. Here’s the “retire after age 38 season” hypothetical: 81.1 WAR, 547 HR, 1,522 RBI, 2,443 hits, approx 146 OPS+ That’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Here’s another hypothetical: what if Harper never has another year like his 2021 campaign? What if the rest of his career mirrors 2019-2020 only, which would mean that he only averages 108 games played per season for the rest of his career. That seems uncommonly harsh but it accounts for some aging, so let’s see where that gets us: 72.1 WAR, 507 HR, 1,332 RBI, 2,283 hits, 137 OPS+ That's HOF numbers as well Most of this material is taken or learned from online sources. Harper is very likely going to be a hall of famer
@@tonybleau6219 Outstanding work on this. Wanna really make things interesting? Take Harper and Trout's career numbers and compare them for each thru their age 28 seasons. The HR, doubles, hits, etc. are not as far off in-comparison as you may think. Trout has been a CF and has taken a lot of damage to his body and Harper has had injuries but been overall healthier the last couple of years. Harper's body may be better for continued performance into their 30s (thinner frame and gets power from a still powerful base). Trout's body is like Griffey's and may breakdown more sadly (I SURE HOPE NOT). But we may be looking at some key MLB career counting stats in 10 years (like HR, doubles, hits) and see Harper with more career totals than Trout. Stranger things have happened.
@@fromulus I already took that into account if you read what I wrote. And even my high estimate is taking aging into account and him averaging only 108 games a season. He's very likely a HOF
As a Nats fan the moment we fell in love with Bryce was in one of his first games as a 19 year old when he stole home on Cole Hamels after Hamels intentionally hit him.
I knew Harper was up there with his stats but the goat? It has never cross my mind but if he accomplishes that, I'm glad we are able to see it through.
Great video but I think it would worth to talk about some of the issues he had was he debuted the same year as trout and has been compared to trout his whole career because of it. I believe that’s why he’s got so much hate
Remember how much the players around the league hated Harper. Dude took so much hate and abuse, some of it justified, but most of it was uncalled for. Players resented him gettin the call so quickly along w/ his “flashiness” and disrespect for the game. They acted like none of them pimped their HRs or showed emotion on bad calls. Remember when dude was hated on bc his cleats for crying out loud. The Paplebon incident was what made me full go on being a Harper fan. Whether ya liked him or not, the fact that one of our vets would publicly come at a rookie like that told me that everyone else was way outta line w/ their disdain for the kid. They coulda brought him up in the clubhouse, but instead made him figure it out on his own. And he balled out
happy to have been to 2 games over last 10 years saw harper this year only 4 innings though 13 years i think might be a steal they change to DH value of his contract will be exponential
Bro. No Bryce was not shaping up to be baseballs "lebron." Harper didn't become a cancer to his league. I wouldn't say Harper was shaping up to be baseball's MJ Esther. Harper will definitely be remembered as one of the greats for sure. Bryce is just different
while I look on a dad making a 6-7 year old do drills and BP 40 hours a week as child abuse, it’s what gives you diehards the Bryce Harpers and Tiger Woods of the athletic world.
Wanna really make things interesting? Take Harper and Trout's career numbers and compare them for each thru their age 28 seasons. The HR, doubles, hits, etc. are not as far off in-comparison as you may think. Trout has been a CF and has taken a lot of damage to his body and Harper has had injuries but been overall healthier the last couple of years. Harper's body may be better for continued performance into their 30s (thinner frame and gets power from a still powerful base). Trout's body is like Griffey's and may breakdown more sadly (I SURE HOPE NOT). But we may be looking at some key MLB career counting stats in 10 years (like HR, doubles, hits) and see Harper with more career totals than Trout. Stranger things have happened.
I love that play in the pinstripes line. Now it's this desperate attempt to pretend like it was his dream to play in Philly, and the money is secondary. I'm sure he didn't mean the red pinstripes.
That has more to do with the Nationals FO and Organization than it has to do with Trout. If this was basketball I would understand but one player can’t carry a franchise in baseball. I mean no one brings up Bonds career being “wasted” on the Giants cause they made one run in 2002.
@@fuccckckkkkckkck umm before bonds got to the giants, he was leading the pirates to the playoffs so your whole giants theory is trash.. terrible comparison.. and personal success and team success goes hand in hand and by everything combined, Harper has been better..
All I got from this is Bryce missed his Chance to be the first Shohei Ohtani..he’s inconsistent because he’s not a prodigy, he’s someone who was pushed to live out someone else’s dreams, namely his own fathers. His dad pushed him to be what he was, and while I look j a dad making a 6-7 year old do drills and BP 40 hours a week as child abuse, it’s what gives you diehards the Bruce Harpers and Tiger Woods of the athletic world.
he could have been a perfect yankee, I know we have Judge but imagine them together, that would be pretty special, his swing was built for the short porch
He's literally the MVP...better means what, Unanimous MVP? All he needs is a good leadoff hitter who gets on base and another big bat and his RBI and even run numbers will inflate
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Great video! I find it interesting that when both Harper and Trout came up it was supposed to be the battle of two greats for the next decade or more. While Harper has been great (probably be in the HOF when all is done), Trout has ran circles around him.
I find it even funnier that I knew who Bryce Harper was when he was 16. I never heard of Trout until he was the Angels top prospect. Still can’t believe that 26 (I think 26. Around that many.) players were picked before him in the draft. What burns even more is that the pick the Angels used for him was a compensation pick that the Yankees had to give them for signing Mark Teixeira.
Don’t disagree but if trout keeps getting hurt we might have to revisit this
harper does have the potential to be on the same plane as trout. i mean look at those 2015 mvp numbers. like what
@@JG54206 I knew Trout as the only weirdo who ever go to the MLB Draft. I watch it I was 13 I was laughing like I hope he comes the best and make create the MLB draft a important thing. At least I was half right.
@@masonsnowden6825 Trout could never play again and he'd probably still have a better career than Harper.
Harper has been a stud since he's been in the League, I love watching him play.
Yeah exactly, not to mention he plays through injuries all of the time.
Ya me to! Love the way he plays and his personality is cool. I always wanted him on my Yankees
Love your vids SportsStorm! Another amazing one!
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It’s kinda insane for any credible publication to call any prospect “baseball’s LeBron.” Basketball is easily the most one man centric of pretty much all team sports and in basketball one man can absolutely dominate a game and basically single-handedly win the game. In some circumstances the other 4 guys are literally a distraction. Baseball on the other hand is the complete opposite. Even the best players only bat once every 9 hitters and the best pitchers can still only pitch once ever 3 days on short rest in the playoffs.
Exactly basketball tbh is more dumb down. Where it’s who can make more shots. Where baseball it’s all about strategy into getting runs in preventing runs. As it’s so team driven a relief pitcher is as important as any closer.
@@injectsql hahaha right? Basically his argument is "In basketball you shoot the ball a lot to hope to score more points than your opponent"
Oh you mean like just about every sport (and tons of games) in existence? And those big men just throw the ball around with hope and luck? Shit I don't care for basketball but those players put an immense amount of effort in to defense and moving as a team, it's not all just practicing "putting a ball in a hole"
Yeah exactly they are 2 totally different sports
@@KOCChristian if basketball is who can make more shots baseball is hit the ball over the fence and win
@@KOCChristian baseball is fundamentally harder but basketball utilizes a lot more strategy. You could wing it in baseball a little but in basketball strategy is the difference between the Sacramento kings and the Memphis grizzlies. Both teams have a similar amount of compiled talent(even tho ja accounts for a lot of the grizzlies talent and is a no doubt superstar).
Nice video. I'm glad more people are talking about this lately. I always mention to people the hype about Harper in 2009 and 2010. I was in high school on the other side of the country and during baseball season all the guys on my team were talking about this Bryce kid who started college early so that he could get to the majors. It sounded insane but I always thought it was cool how someone who was our age was getting that kind of attention. Usually we knew the best guy in our state, county, district, etc. but everyone was talking about Harper around summer 2009.
Did you buy into the hype?
You and the Jolly Olive are going to carry me through this lockout with these bangers
Bro you have such great content and I’m a huge fan! But as a fellow Padres fan how can you mistake Dee Gordon for SD fan favorite Tony Gwynn Jr. at 10:52 :’(
tony gwyi
fr i was confused when he said tony gwynn jr
I was so confused lmao
Whoops! They were next to each other in the lineup
Ys. He came to play in Barquisimeto, Venezuela and Manny Macado was his roommate. Less than 50 mts from than ballpark, there is a soccer stadium where Real Madrid played against Barcelona, the 1st in history outside Spain, between both teams (and just another one after). Every time I am in front of that ballpark, I remember it and tell the story in conversation with friends.
Bryce Harper is one of the most interesting superstars in the MLB rn
Over hated and underrated.
I love him, he's no mike trout but nobody is. He is the definition of a 5 tool player and has some of the best plate discipline I've ever seen. And that swing is so sweet baby..
The Phillies are not regretting a single cent of that contract now. He went OFF last October. Dude hit like .400 with a ton of HR and RBI in clutch moments to send a team to the World Series.
Awesome video bro!
great video as always man
Thanks!
Bryce Harper is one of my favorite players. He is one of the elite players in the MLB right now beside Ohtani, Tatis Jr, Vladdy Jr, and Soto. That is why he won the NL MVP with the Phillies this year. he has a lot of playing time and energy left in his tank.
Those are all of the elite players in MLB? That's it? No Acuna, Jr. or Freeman. Harper SHOULD NPT have won the MVP - he does not deserve that title this year
@@Mox3712 WHo do you think should have won it?
@@Mox3712 Oh forgot to mention these guys especially Acuna Jr. went down for the season this past July. I mean it is a close call on who should win the NL MVP for the 2021 season. If Acuna Jr. stayed healthy throughout the season, he could have a better chance of claiming the award.
@@Mox3712 Harper led the MLB in most offensive stats. He definitely deserved the MVP
@@poopscoop4907 Harper led the league in SLG and OPS. He was dominated by Soto and Tatis in many categories including WAR.
Since they had no problem giving the MVP to a guy on a losing team then Soto 100% deserved it more and arguably Tatis above him. Harper should have finished 3rd.
If you want to give the MVP to a "playoff" team then it should have been Austin Riley.
Harper had a great season but not really an MVP season. Overall the NL had an odd offensive season. If Tatis played all season he would have won it hands down. The drama of him acting out towards the end of the season probably hurt him. But take a look at Soto's batting like and realize he did it with a bad team around him.
I always remember his debut because of Kemp’s walkoff. Before his injuries Kemp was something else man
Yeah 2011 was amazing lol
kemp was so gross against lefty pitching it was insane, 2011 was so memorable
@@LUCKIPUP even hearing into the first month if 2012 he was able to be red hot. Injuries robbed us of a damn good 5 tool player
i can’t believe i was at this game. but as a kid i wasn’t even worried about a 19 year old kids debut. my favorite player hit a walk-off home run dad and i are there to see it. much much simpler times.
cant wait for your video on Soto!
I've seen both of them in the same outfield , pre game tossing the ball to each other while on the Scottsdale scorpions in the AZ fall league.
And now he willed his team to the World Series with one of the most spectacular playoff performances this league has ever seen.
My dude came to play! Bryce is one of my favorites! I’ll always wonder what if he stayed in Washington ya know? Would he be a World Champion or was he wise to get out? Thanks SportStorm!
The Nats vastly overperformed in 2019. People can say what they want but Harper leaving was the best choice for him. There was zero and I mean zero people who had them pegged as a playoff team, much less a World Series contender.
@@basedpliskin Hm perhaps. Thank you for being respectful!
Doesn't matter. Washington has Soto. Soto is going to end his career as one of the greatest offensive players ever at the rate he is going. As long as they have Soto they won't miss Harper at all.
@@basedpliskin Predictions by outsiders mean little. I really hope that didn't impact his decision, that would be dumb.
Granted, I firmly believe the 19 Nats don't win it all if harper stays in DC.
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I think that’s fair but I’m more of the opinion that baseball predictors aren’t quite fitted for the modern MLB to begin with. You have to admit that the 2019 season was lightning in a bottle. Starting the season 19-31 through the 1st 50 games in 2019 and finishing at 26-34 through 60 in 2020. And the only notable FA they lost was Rendon yet they were more or less on the same pace through 50-60. But then you get into conversations like ‘how often does the objectively best baseball team actually win the World Series’ which is a conversation for much smarter people.
Nice vid, can you make a video on Arenado pls?
good vid bro
My lil bro (8) got Bryce Harper cleats for baseball this year. I was tryna tell him how awesome Harper is and had to pull up this and another video to show him how much of the man he is
Well as far as the last line in the video, he’s taken the Phillies to the World Series, time to see if he helps them win that now too. Loved the video
I seen Trout hit a ball out of the park,over the exit road in the parking lot,over 3 deep parking spot , over the desert wash into the brush . Trout was on the quakes . The park was up @hdmavs park in adelanto. It Has to be 550 ft or more. It lop sided the ball. Harper was in FL at the time. The hype on him was SUPER HIGH . No one was talking about that trout kid at that time.
He’s a career .900 OPS in Washington. To me .900+ is elite.
10:52 that’s dee Gordon not tony Gwynn jr
Had harper stayed a catcher he might have lived up to the hype. His bat is special for a catcher.
His bat is special for any position. If he stays healthy enough through the end of his contract and considering he's in his prime right now (only 29 years old), he'll have 600 home runs, 600 doubles, 1,700 runs, 1,600 RBI, 1,700 walks, a .400 OBP, and .900 OPS... and that could possibly be short-selling those numbers if he has a 3-5 year run where he goes off. He had a couple of underwhelming batting average years and that's what made many people sour on his "hype", but even his worst overall year was above league averages.
Make no mistake, he's tracking to be in very elite company for all-time offensive players. His first MVP in 2015 is the best non-Barry Bonds season of the last 20 years (yes, even better than the best seasons of Trout, Pujols, Miggy, A-Rod, etc)... and he's not done. I think he's found his home in Philly, he's seemed to have matured a lot ever since he got married and had a couple of kids... I think he's got 2 or 3 more MVP years in him.
It would have been interesting to see
Great video
Yo Bryce what’s up man!
So Harper is elite but inconsistent, his swings are substantial but his career OPS is just above 900. Elite for sure, but if he was half as consistent as Trout…he’d be in the GOAT conversation
Future Hall of Famer for sure
Doubtful
@@Mox3712 One of only 32 players ever with multiple MVPs, best offensive season of the decade (and probably since Bonds).
Since Harper turned 29 on October 16th, the most relevant comparison is to look at how he’s doing compared to others through their “age 28” seasons.
Using the biggest “fame-producing” statistic (home runs), only 16 players had more than Harper’s 267 home runs through the end of their age 28 seasons. If you extrapolate his 13 taters from the 2020 COVID season into a full campaign, he would be 14th all-time. If you make another “through age 28” list, Harper is one of just 32 players in baseball history to post a WAR of 40 or more with an OPS+ of 140 or more
Which Version of Bryce Harper will we see in the Next Seven-Ten Years?
The 2015 version of Bryce Harper is an all-time great, a no-doubt Hall of Famer. The 2016 and 2018 versions, which featured prolonged slumps, were not of Cooperstown caliber. The 2021 version (179 OPS+, 5.9 WAR), if duplicated for 3 or 4 seasons, would also result in a Hall of Fame plaque. Given that, barring a career-ending injury, Harper is likely to be on the field for 10 more seasons, he would only need one or two more seasons of this caliber, with some more 2019-type seasons to fill in the statistical resume.
There are analysts with far more sophisticated tools than I who can more accurately predict a player’s future (Bill James, FanGraphs’ Dan Szymborski), but I’m going to do some very crude hypotheticals here.
Look at it this way: let’s imagine that Bryce Harper precisely duplicates his average performance of the last three seasons over the next ten years and retires when his contract expires. In this hypothetical scenario, I’m going to presume that one out of every three of these seasons is shortened (as 2020) for injury-related reasons. By doing this, I’m giving credit for a huge year but also assuming that he’s going to have some rough ones.
What would his career statistics look like? To find out all we have to do is multiply his average season from 2019-21 by ten and add it to his current numbers.
Here’s the “retire after age 38 season” hypothetical:
81.1 WAR, 547 HR, 1,522 RBI, 2,443 hits, approx 146 OPS+
That’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer.
Here’s another hypothetical: what if Harper never has another year like his 2021 campaign? What if the rest of his career mirrors 2019-2020 only, which would mean that he only averages 108 games played per season for the rest of his career. That seems uncommonly harsh but it accounts for some aging, so let’s see where that gets us:
72.1 WAR, 507 HR, 1,332 RBI, 2,283 hits, 137 OPS+
That's HOF numbers as well
Most of this material is taken or learned from online sources. Harper is very likely going to be a hall of famer
@@tonybleau6219 Outstanding work on this. Wanna really make things interesting? Take Harper and Trout's career numbers and compare them for each thru their age 28 seasons. The HR, doubles, hits, etc. are not as far off in-comparison as you may think. Trout has been a CF and has taken a lot of damage to his body and Harper has had injuries but been overall healthier the last couple of years. Harper's body may be better for continued performance into their 30s (thinner frame and gets power from a still powerful base). Trout's body is like Griffey's and may breakdown more sadly (I SURE HOPE NOT). But we may be looking at some key MLB career counting stats in 10 years (like HR, doubles, hits) and see Harper with more career totals than Trout. Stranger things have happened.
@@tonybleau6219 what if he has more seasons below his average? It's more than reasonable to assume he will, especially once he reaches the mid-30s.
@@fromulus I already took that into account if you read what I wrote. And even my high estimate is taking aging into account and him averaging only 108 games a season. He's very likely a HOF
As a Nats fan the moment we fell in love with Bryce was in one of his first games as a 19 year old when he stole home on Cole Hamels after Hamels intentionally hit him.
That was Dee Gordon not gwynn Jr
Yeah u right on the button. Harper is still the one to watch. Good video.
Bryce has to be in the running for the most underrated overrated player of all time.
lol that's funny. Really funny - Harper sucks bawls
@@Mox3712 Wow man you couldn't have picked a worse year to say this.
@@andrerogers3196 he's proving your point lmao
He's definitely underrated if you go by public perception
@@andrerogers3196 well that and 2015.
Harper is my favorite non Dodger player ⚾️
Bryce is a true ball player. Always be one of my favs
The biggest "what if?" in Nationals history will always be "what if Bryce Harper resigned?"
Well the nationals won the World Series without Harper so I think it’s best if he neve me resigned
We will never know!
Colleges don’t even use wood bats he was just gettin ready 😂
I remember how hyped that game was but I didn’t remember how productive he was that year, at that age
It was good enough to win Rookie of the Year and is widely considered the best season by a teenager in history.
Harper is my favorite player now. He is fun to watch and plays all out just like junior. But Griffey is still my All time favorite player.
I knew Harper was up there with his stats but the goat? It has never cross my mind but if he accomplishes that, I'm glad we are able to see it through.
Well it’s hard to be the “goat”!
Yoo thank you man lmaooo i remember reading that article Lebron James of Baseball.
How bout video on Jay Payton Nomar Varitek GTech college team
Thanks for letting me enjoy my lunch break
Seeing Harper without a beard, long hair, and all that is so weird.
Yeah it is bro, we are all so used to it now
Great video but I think it would worth to talk about some of the issues he had was he debuted the same year as trout and has been compared to trout his whole career because of it. I believe that’s why he’s got so much hate
It's really saddening that players like Harper, Trout, Ohtani and so many others end up stuck on dead end teams. These guys deserve better.
Ummm do you know how much money these guys make ? Deserve better , I don’t think it gets better .
Imagine if Harper played with Juan Soto with the nationals. They got an eye for generational left handed hitters in the capital
Ty
Remember how much the players around the league hated Harper. Dude took so much hate and abuse, some of it justified, but most of it was uncalled for. Players resented him gettin the call so quickly along w/ his “flashiness” and disrespect for the game. They acted like none of them pimped their HRs or showed emotion on bad calls.
Remember when dude was hated on bc his cleats for crying out loud. The Paplebon incident was what made me full go on being a Harper fan. Whether ya liked him or not, the fact that one of our vets would publicly come at a rookie like that told me that everyone else was way outta line w/ their disdain for the kid. They coulda brought him up in the clubhouse, but instead made him figure it out on his own. And he balled out
Anyone know any other baseball channels like this?
90 million dollar Nike contract you say? Nah bro..try 1 billion….
Bryce is one of the greats. Played the game the right way. People who don’t like him are just mad because he isn’t on their team.
“The Chosen One”
Rodriguez struck out *Dee Gordon, not Gwynn.
Harper may not be an MLB GOAT (yet) but he's definitely a Phillie GOAT.
2022 NLCS MVP. hitting RBIs at will.
I'd say for the most part he's lived up to it.
happy to have been to 2 games over last 10 years saw harper this year only 4 innings though 13 years i think might be a steal they change to DH value of his contract will be exponential
hes got a couple more mvps in him
10:52 that isn’t to y Gwynn jr that’s dee Gordon, bud!
2:06 it’s 517, not 570.
Bro. No Bryce was not shaping up to be baseballs "lebron." Harper didn't become a cancer to his league. I wouldn't say Harper was shaping up to be baseball's MJ Esther. Harper will definitely be remembered as one of the greats for sure. Bryce is just different
The biggest problem with harper is the simple fact that Trout exists. He will likely always play second fiddle to the true goat.
Nice
while I look on a dad making a 6-7 year old do drills and BP 40 hours a week as child abuse, it’s what gives you diehards the Bryce Harpers and Tiger Woods of the athletic world.
Wanna really make things interesting? Take Harper and Trout's career numbers and compare them for each thru their age 28 seasons. The HR, doubles, hits, etc. are not as far off in-comparison as you may think. Trout has been a CF and has taken a lot of damage to his body and Harper has had injuries but been overall healthier the last couple of years. Harper's body may be better for continued performance into their 30s (thinner frame and gets power from a still powerful base). Trout's body is like Griffey's and may breakdown more sadly (I SURE HOPE NOT). But we may be looking at some key MLB career counting stats in 10 years (like HR, doubles, hits) and see Harper with more career totals than Trout. Stranger things have happened.
Interesting point
I love that play in the pinstripes line. Now it's this desperate attempt to pretend like it was his dream to play in Philly, and the money is secondary. I'm sure he didn't mean the red pinstripes.
Phillies!!!!
People hate on Boras, I think he’s a damn genius. Btw the Nationals got their $ worth.
Seeing as Harper has been the more healthier and better at getting in the playoffs than trout, hard to say who’s better between him and trout
That has more to do with the Nationals FO and Organization than it has to do with Trout. If this was basketball I would understand but one player can’t carry a franchise in baseball. I mean no one brings up Bonds career being “wasted” on the Giants cause they made one run in 2002.
@@fuccckckkkkckkck umm before bonds got to the giants, he was leading the pirates to the playoffs so your whole giants theory is trash.. terrible comparison.. and personal success and team success goes hand in hand and by everything combined, Harper has been better..
He needs a ring
He most definitely is playing in pinstripes we like those go phils!!!
Yessir! Hopefully we see him holding a WS trophy up next year!
Mike trout the chosen one
2:39 Bryce looks possesed lol
So is someone going to tell him that wasn’t Tony Gwynn jr but instead Dee Gordon…
such a great player he was the chosen one and is still great, but hasnt been consistent as Trout
Dude could set the HR is he plays long enough at the level he’s at now
I'd like a Bryce Harper/LeBron James relic card
Now the Phillies need to win for him! Such a wasted talent!
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Do one of the natural Mike Trout
The GOAT
Bryce is 10 times the man than Lebron will ever be.
Your talking out your ass.
Couldn’t agree more man
Thank God Bryce Harper is a Phillie!
Parents should have their children's eyes checked in grade school. My son started wearing glasses when he was 1 and he had eye surgery 3 times.
7:43 on today's episode of "Dodgers have the worst fans in baseball"
All hyped and living under the shadow of the real chosen one, Mike Trout! 💪🏼
All I got from this is Bryce missed his Chance to be the first Shohei Ohtani..he’s inconsistent because he’s not a prodigy, he’s someone who was pushed to live out someone else’s dreams, namely his own fathers. His dad pushed him to be what he was, and while I look j a dad making a 6-7 year old do drills and BP 40 hours a week as child abuse, it’s what gives you diehards the Bruce Harpers and Tiger Woods of the athletic world.
On matter how his career ends, he could hit dingers
Well baseball did get a LeBron James. He just arrived 6 years after Bryce Harper, and he came from Japan not Nevada.
is Harper the Lebron of baseball that's a clown questions bro.
Right he aint Lebron That would be Mike Trout I think hes more a James Harden
Harper isn’t Lebron because of Mike Trout
Harper: "I'm here to bring a championship to Washington"
Harper watching the Washington Nationals win the 2019 World Series: "Oh..."
he could have been a perfect yankee, I know we have Judge but imagine them together, that would be pretty special, his swing was built for the short porch
Giancarlo Stanton put an end to that
Tony Gwynn Jr
Dude LA fans are by far the worst
I'm not a fan of LeBron.... I am a fan of Bryce Harper.
Hes the James Harden of Baseball not Lebron
The stats say he’s great, but why do I feel like he should be better?
Because everyone is waiting for him the be Mike Trout.
He's literally the MVP...better means what, Unanimous MVP?
All he needs is a good leadoff hitter who gets on base and another big bat and his RBI and even run numbers will inflate
Stay classy, Dodger fans.
Harper became LeBron but not in a good way.