A lot of years have pases and still bioshock has a deeper story then 99% of all games released today, it's fascinating and at the same time sad. You are putting a lot of work on your content and I highly appreciate it, gods work.
Your channel is so nice place to relax, Im 30 years old, having verry hard year now. Your videos allows me to go somewhere else, in the night when all are asleep. Bless you Skyrionn I wish you 1 mil sooner then it is planned for you.
seriously only 420 likes (as of this writing)? Insane. Andrew Ryan is a sympathetic character; and the writers did great justice on him. It is a cautionary tale of idealogical capture - with author Ayn Rand clearly at its forefront. When one's vision becomes more important than the basic understanding of human social structure, ubiquitous suffering inevitably occurs. Whether it is Communism or Fascism; the end result is the same - a brief societal euphoria before the inevitable and crushing come-down. Run from it; Hide from it - inter- and intra-group conflict will occur just the same. The mitigation processes are what should be in discussion.
Andrew Ryan is a big part why I love the Bioshock franchise. It would be amazing if a tv show could be created following him throughout his early life to the creation and eventual fall of Rapture.
That’s what I’ve been saying! Forget about a bioshock movie that follows the events of the game. Instead, do a Netflix series that follows the story of Andrew Ryan - from his early life to the rise and fall of rapture. The story/events of the game have already been told, and in a way fitting for a video game. It doesn’t need to be retold in a movie. Give depth to the bioshock universe by telling a different part of the story, and in a way fitting for its respective medium.
Well my deceased friend once said ( after playing this story on the PS3) “ if reincarnation is possible, then who’s to say that an similar scenario wouldn’t be repeated if no one learned the Negatives of this story, and the if the ghosts of such places wouldn’t possibly get reincarnated again and repeat the same sad events again and again throughout history yet to come “….an interesting thought to ponder indeed….
It's a funny thing. You can start out with good intentions and a decent goal, but strain, corruption, and a huge ego can turn even the best intentions into horrible and unforgivable actions.
You know, for how egotistical and misguided he was? I felt bad about Ryan's death. The man had everything taken from him three seperate times. The only thing not taken from him...w as his choice on how to go out.
@@jakekaywell5972 ...only he didn't die on his own terms. His death was inevitable, and he did everything he could to stop it. In the end, he didn't choose death, he just expedited it.
@@GanymedeBoy He ordered Fontaine's creation to kill him because he saw the failure of Rapture as the failure of his philosophy (even if it really isn't objectivst in nature). That's dying on your own terms.
@@jakekaywell5972 Fontaine ordered the hit first. Ryan was going to die regardless of his "orders". He didn't choose anything but semantics. Rapture failed well before Jack got to him, and Andrew was STILL trying to stop his assassination
Andrew Ryan. What an excellent character. I'd argue he was more Libertarian than Objectivist like his inspiration, Ayn Rand. Even she saw the need for police force, courts system and military defence. Without these institutions Ryan was helpless against exploiters like Frank Fontaine, and Fontaine knew it. In the end Ryan betrayed his own principles, one by one. The biggest of these being the nationalisation and continuation of Fontaine's Little Sister program. Despite what was done to them, they were still human and their lives were forfeit in the pursuit of power.
his ideals were flawed and based on a false premise. Rapture as this sort of ancap paradise couldn't have lasted, because most people show even less restraint or principle than he did, and all of what he did believe and due was built on resentment, not thought out and measured consideration
@@paratrooper508 Not really. His ideals were supposed to be a government existing only to protect individual rights with no say in the free market, but he started immediately controlling the flow of commerce and restricting the rights of others. Objectivism is not in itself a flawed model, it's exactly the abandonment of these ideals that caused Raptures downfall.
@@Skyrionn Right now I prefer the Half-Life lore videos, but my favorite playlist of all time is yuor Fable unused concepts, Fable is the best series, and yuor channel is the best !
It's kinda funny that he presents himself as a self made man, when in reality his wealth came from little more than luck. If the land he bought didn't happen to contain oil, nobody would've ever known who he was.
Considering he stumbled across his fortune thanks to the oil in his property.m, he was not ‘self made. Also he’d rather burn a forest to the ground than share it and built rapture so he can invite only the people he deemed elite enough and be left alone. Dunno why people keep saying he had good intentions. Guy felt the need to even control his lovers. Grade A villain but not a sympathetic one
Something I have been wondering about for while; fable journey is considered an alternative universe to fable 3 (no hero in that game) so does this mean Theresa can return
I've always noticed that Andrew Ryan is used as a criticism of Ayn Rands Philosophy. This shouldn't be the case. Andrew Ryan went against Objectivism by controlling people, annexing Fontaine Futuristic, and not letting the market take its course(he would loose to Fontaine). Had he followed Objectivism to the letter, he would have died, but the city may have lived. It would have lived under a despot who only cared for profits and gains, but it would have lived on all the same. Andrew Ryan failed the principles of Objectivism, not the other way around.
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He had to take control and authority in ways he was very much against philosophically but that doesn't mean he became what he despised. Making compromises and becoming what you are against is not the same thing. It's not like he chose those things just because. He was forced into it. Plus, in general his philosophy isn't perfect. Humans natural organize into hierarchies and if you want the progress Andrew wanted, total independence and libertarianism is not going to work (still works a billion times better than the absolute joke that communism is) as well as free market capitalism, with minimal government intervention.
You just completely disregarded the fact Andrew Ryan is based on Ayn Rand, a writer of novels about utopian free market capitalist societies. The meta story here never criticises the soviets, goverment nor socialism but instead completely tears down a political philosophy that is hugely influential on the modern USA. The same way Bioshock Infinete tears down US history and American exceptionalism. I think if you do not mention this you are missing what the writers made the story and these characters about.
@@hagonistheman7880 I strongly disagree. Bioshock was a game like any other by a competent developer when it was first released back in 2007. Its the re-interpretations, the continuous probing by fans into how and why Rapture is what it is that put it on the same tier as Half-Life. You proved that. Instead of being focused on libertarianism or really any structured message, you've given the world and its characters your own spin.
Well, it wasn't Ryan. It was Atlas, Fontaine who destroyed Rapture! That was the twist of the game. And history note: Jews didn't leave Rusia because of comunisim, they leave it because they were were persecuted by the Bolshevik revolution.
If don't don't know anything about history , you definitely shouldn't pretend you do. The bolshevic revolution was explicitly Jewish. The reason they started to flee was because starvation was rampant and desperate people started to target the insanely wealthy , so the wealthy left with all their stolen wealth. Do you think it was just coincidence the Churches and Christians was the very first ones attacked while the synagogues had the full protection of Stalin's army?
It was literally both of them. That’s the point. Ryan would rather destroy what’s his (like his forest) than share. He was an authoritarian who had to control everything. Even his lovers. Of course Rapture fell
It was Ryans ideology that allowed Fontaine to do what he did. Ryan was the one who decided that there should be no regulation to make sure a drug is safe before selling and marketing it, he was the one that created the systems of power which got abused, he was the one that stomped his feet when everything was falling apart and insisted he's right and everyone else is wrong rather than actually do anything to help.
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I thought up a bioshock game
Please do a video on major zero and big boss from metal gear series
A lot of years have pases and still bioshock has a deeper story then 99% of all games released today, it's fascinating and at the same time sad.
You are putting a lot of work on your content and I highly appreciate it, gods work.
Your channel is so nice place to relax, Im 30 years old, having verry hard year now. Your videos allows me to go somewhere else, in the night when all are asleep. Bless you Skyrionn I wish you 1 mil sooner then it is planned for you.
seriously only 420 likes (as of this writing)? Insane.
Andrew Ryan is a sympathetic character; and the writers did great justice on him. It is a cautionary tale of idealogical capture - with author Ayn Rand clearly at its forefront. When one's vision becomes more important than the basic understanding of human social structure, ubiquitous suffering inevitably occurs. Whether it is Communism or Fascism; the end result is the same - a brief societal euphoria before the inevitable and crushing come-down.
Run from it; Hide from it - inter- and intra-group conflict will occur just the same. The mitigation processes are what should be in discussion.
Andrew Ryan is a big part why I love the Bioshock franchise. It would be amazing if a tv show could be created following him throughout his early life to the creation and eventual fall of Rapture.
That’s what I’ve been saying! Forget about a bioshock movie that follows the events of the game. Instead, do a Netflix series that follows the story of Andrew Ryan - from his early life to the rise and fall of rapture. The story/events of the game have already been told, and in a way fitting for a video game. It doesn’t need to be retold in a movie. Give depth to the bioshock universe by telling a different part of the story, and in a way fitting for its respective medium.
TV shows and movies nowadays are absolute garbage. The quality they once had is gone. They would most likely ruin it.
There is a novel called "Bioshock: Rapture" that does exactly that
Will not and should not happen. Can’t recreate the magic made from this game.
@@lloyd9516There is a book though
Well my deceased friend once said ( after playing this story on the PS3) “ if reincarnation is possible, then who’s to say that an similar scenario wouldn’t be repeated if no one learned the Negatives of this story, and the if the ghosts of such places wouldn’t possibly get reincarnated again and repeat the same sad events again and again throughout history yet to come “….an interesting thought to ponder indeed….
Oho, a Bioshock video! A dive into this series would be quite interesting- looking forward to more of your content as always!
Awesome, thank you! I think I'll stick with Bioshock lore
@@Skyrionn im assuming "stick with" just means you'll be doing more bioshock and not just stop doing lore for other franchises
Heh. Dive.
One of the greatest villains of all time!
Great stuff as always, thanks for the upload!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
It's a funny thing. You can start out with good intentions and a decent goal, but strain, corruption, and a huge ego can turn even the best intentions into horrible and unforgivable actions.
The road to hell…
@@DocBree13 quite.
I wouldn’t say Ryan had good intentions
Ty so much for the upload man, i really needed me some New bioshock lore Videos!
Glad I could help! There's more to come!
one of my favorite characters in one of my favorite video games, thanks for the video skyrionn! also glad youre getting sponsors! keep at it
You know, for how egotistical and misguided he was? I felt bad about Ryan's death. The man had everything taken from him three seperate times. The only thing not taken from him...w as his choice on how to go out.
Are you kidding? I replayed his death over and over. His "choice" seemed pretty irrelevant.
@@GanymedeBoy He died on his own terms. That's pretty darn relevant.
@@jakekaywell5972 ...only he didn't die on his own terms. His death was inevitable, and he did everything he could to stop it. In the end, he didn't choose death, he just expedited it.
@@GanymedeBoy He ordered Fontaine's creation to kill him because he saw the failure of Rapture as the failure of his philosophy (even if it really isn't objectivst in nature). That's dying on your own terms.
@@jakekaywell5972 Fontaine ordered the hit first. Ryan was going to die regardless of his "orders". He didn't choose anything but semantics. Rapture failed well before Jack got to him, and Andrew was STILL trying to stop his assassination
You earned a sub, good job hombre.
once again an amazing lore video!!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching them!
Awesomely narrated stoey of Andrew, I like it! Very clear and concise.
Haven't played the game, but its lore and world intruiges me. Wonderful ^_^
Andrew Ryan. What an excellent character. I'd argue he was more Libertarian than Objectivist like his inspiration, Ayn Rand. Even she saw the need for police force, courts system and military defence. Without these institutions Ryan was helpless against exploiters like Frank Fontaine, and Fontaine knew it. In the end Ryan betrayed his own principles, one by one. The biggest of these being the nationalisation and continuation of Fontaine's Little Sister program. Despite what was done to them, they were still human and their lives were forfeit in the pursuit of power.
Ryan's ego was the demise of all. Betraying his own ideal for Rapture the moment it becane convenient
Exactly. The ADAM problem didn't help, but he did betray his own ideals.
@@Skyrionn correct me if im wrong did the end start when someone was gaining more income than him?
his ideals were flawed and based on a false premise. Rapture as this sort of ancap paradise couldn't have lasted, because most people show even less restraint or principle than he did, and all of what he did believe and due was built on resentment, not thought out and measured consideration
The nature of his ideas would invite such betrayal.
@@paratrooper508 Not really. His ideals were supposed to be a government existing only to protect individual rights with no say in the free market, but he started immediately controlling the flow of commerce and restricting the rights of others.
Objectivism is not in itself a flawed model, it's exactly the abandonment of these ideals that caused Raptures downfall.
Master class editing
Thanks bud!
I've played all 3 games and to this day didn't know a whole bunch of this lore at all.
Great vid man would you kindly do more characters in bioshock😉
That's the plan! Any suggestions? :)
@@Skyrionn Fontaine
18:05 “using science” lmaoooo lets go
When you realise Andrew Ryan is a play on Ayn Rand
As far as I'm aware, it was accidental, but it seems like a big thing to be an accident haha
@@Skyrionn I wouldn't be surprised if it was on purpose
Turned on post notifications, cause it neglected to put your upload in my subscription tab
I've been told it only seems to be doing that for any content that isn't Half-Life. RUclips seems to have put me in a box haha
Never stop making videos please
I'll do my best every week :D Which is your favourite series? Portal, Bioshock or Half-Life?
@@Skyrionn Right now I prefer the Half-Life lore videos, but my favorite playlist of all time is yuor Fable unused concepts, Fable is the best series, and yuor channel is the best !
It's kinda funny that he presents himself as a self made man, when in reality his wealth came from little more than luck. If the land he bought didn't happen to contain oil, nobody would've ever known who he was.
I love your vids. Algorithmic boost.
You should do TF2 lore some time
I am considering it!
Missed opportunity to say "would you kindly press that like button"
Please do a video on major zero and big boss from metal gear series
And yet Ryan leeched off the hard work of all his lower class workers, the sweat on their brows belong to him.
100%. He became the parasite
Doesn't that make anyone uesing RUclips a paraestet too since thousand of engineers and bots are slaving away so you can profit of ther labour?
@@alexhail9971 WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
@@alexhail9971 Who I am sure are well paid for their labor, which they chose to partake in of their own free will.
"He's a job creator" lmao Republicans today
Great Vid
Trippy Storyline... Entertaining indeed
Very entertaining. I'm hoping Cloud Chamber are able to capture the same feel with the new Bioshock in development
Considering he stumbled across his fortune thanks to the oil in his property.m, he was not ‘self made. Also he’d rather burn a forest to the ground than share it and built rapture so he can invite only the people he deemed elite enough and be left alone. Dunno why people keep saying he had good intentions. Guy felt the need to even control his lovers. Grade A villain but not a sympathetic one
In Bioshock 2, he literally built what was discrined as a cathedral to himself.
Andrew Ryan is the fuckin man. Don't care what anyone says. I love this dude lol
He didnt meet jasmine, he knew jasmine from the surface. And Fontaine never went to hiding
we must seize the means of production
the fact that he went against for what he used to stood for is quite ironic.
I understand why everyone turned against him in the end.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
100% describes his story
Something I have been wondering about for while; fable journey is considered an alternative universe to fable 3 (no hero in that game) so does this mean Theresa can return
I haven't heard that theory yet. I always assumed they took part in the same timeline.
@@Skyrionn I heard when it was announced it was referred to as that but they could have changed mind so who knows
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I fw the different games lore
It's an incredible series
Always a man, always a lighthouse… always a city
heck yeah good vid
Thanks for watching!
This video didn't appear on my sub feed though I'm subscribed..
I've always noticed that Andrew Ryan is used as a criticism of Ayn Rands Philosophy. This shouldn't be the case. Andrew Ryan went against Objectivism by controlling people, annexing Fontaine Futuristic, and not letting the market take its course(he would loose to Fontaine). Had he followed Objectivism to the letter, he would have died, but the city may have lived. It would have lived under a despot who only cared for profits and gains, but it would have lived on all the same. Andrew Ryan failed the principles of Objectivism, not the other way around.
Or he was only wanting to leave a legacy & 🫒 branch for survival. 😭🕊️
Dear [ recipient ] ,
It is with great pleasure that I extend an invitation to you to join the thriving community of Rapture City. Nestled beneath the ocean's depths, Rapture offers a unique and captivating environment for individuals seeking a life beyond the ordinary.
With advanced technologies, a vibrant arts scene, and a society committed to progress, Rapture promises an unparalleled living experience. Join us in the pursuit of innovation and a utopian vision that pushes the boundaries of what's possible.
We eagerly anticipate your arrival and the contributions you will make to our remarkable community.
Sincerely,
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Ryan Industry
When will you ever do Wolfenstein lore? Could be interesting
Can you do comstalk ?
I'll add him to the list :D
He had to take control and authority in ways he was very much against philosophically but that doesn't mean he became what he despised.
Making compromises and becoming what you are against is not the same thing. It's not like he chose those things just because. He was forced into it.
Plus, in general his philosophy isn't perfect. Humans natural organize into hierarchies and if you want the progress Andrew wanted, total independence and libertarianism is not going to work (still works a billion times better than the absolute joke that communism is) as well as free market capitalism, with minimal government intervention.
Robert Edwin House > Andrei Ryanovsky
YES
Based video.
System shock lore pls
If there's an audience for it, sure!
You used the wrong flag when talking about the Bolsheviks. You ended up showing the National Bolshevik Flag-nazbols for short. They’re very different.
Would you kindly smash the like button
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You just completely disregarded the fact Andrew Ryan is based on Ayn Rand, a writer of novels about utopian free market capitalist societies.
The meta story here never criticises the soviets, goverment nor socialism but instead completely tears down a political philosophy that is hugely influential on the modern USA. The same way Bioshock Infinete tears down US history and American exceptionalism. I think if you do not mention this you are missing what the writers made the story and these characters about.
I appreciate the comment. The video was about in game lore though and I didn't want to break that 4th wall
@@Skyrionn I can understand that in a way I just personally consider that meta the most important theme of the game.
Yeah and they’re both right.
As always, godly video from a godly man (or woman or attack helicopter)
No one likes bugs
Libertarianism always leads to anarchy.
When you don't have regulations and a central enforcing body it's much easier for people who want to take advantage of people to do so.
@@hagonistheman7880 Bioshock has become something bigger than its creator could have possibly imagined. It has gone beyond his influence now.
@@hagonistheman7880 I strongly disagree. Bioshock was a game like any other by a competent developer when it was first released back in 2007. Its the re-interpretations, the continuous probing by fans into how and why Rapture is what it is that put it on the same tier as Half-Life. You proved that. Instead of being focused on libertarianism or really any structured message, you've given the world and its characters your own spin.
@@hagonistheman7880 Cool. Have a nice day.
I also dislike leeches
thumbs up if you want johnny depp to portray him.
I would support Ryan to the end like a true believer, if he was real. the man chooses ... slave obeys! man I wish he was real!
Yikes.
Except he was a slave himself.
If they could lead into the promised land, they could lead you out.
@@AfterSimone Excellent point.
:)
:D
Based Bolsheviks
Well, it wasn't Ryan. It was Atlas, Fontaine who destroyed Rapture! That was the twist of the game.
And history note: Jews didn't leave Rusia because of comunisim, they leave it because they were were persecuted by the Bolshevik revolution.
You're right, after all Fontaine was the one who began the little sister program and the Plasmid manufactured.
If don't don't know anything about history , you definitely shouldn't pretend you do. The bolshevic revolution was explicitly Jewish. The reason they started to flee was because starvation was rampant and desperate people started to target the insanely wealthy , so the wealthy left with all their stolen wealth. Do you think it was just coincidence the Churches and Christians was the very first ones attacked while the synagogues had the full protection of Stalin's army?
It was literally both of them. That’s the point. Ryan would rather destroy what’s his (like his forest) than share. He was an authoritarian who had to control everything. Even his lovers. Of course Rapture fell
It was Ryans ideology that allowed Fontaine to do what he did. Ryan was the one who decided that there should be no regulation to make sure a drug is safe before selling and marketing it, he was the one that created the systems of power which got abused, he was the one that stomped his feet when everything was falling apart and insisted he's right and everyone else is wrong rather than actually do anything to help.