I really wanted to make this video to see how close these cars are. The a10 is a kick ass transmission. Had I held my RPM higher on launch and did no lift shift, it might be closer, but that's real world runs for ya.
Why was he shifting? On a roll you slap the stick over and let the trans do work. They’re considerably quicker that way. Good shifting by you though sir, makes me miss my 6 speed !
I saw a video where this guy repeatedly smashed a A10 speed 5.0 with a 2018/2019 SS1LE using no lift shift. Now I have nothing but respect for the SS 1LE in auto OR manual BUT I wouldn’t trade the A10 speed for my 2020 SS 1LE manual. In my opinion, the 1LE is in it’s rarest form as a manual. Not hating, just my opinion. Thanks again for the content man.
I'm now 5 months proud owner of a 2021 SS 1LE manual in Wild Cherry Tintcoat (gorgeous, gorgeous)... and I have no words to describe it. I mean the whole package! But that manual Tremec is something else. And now I'm practicing rev matching it myself and this is also another fully different experience. The car is so different and raw... then you do Sport mode and double tap that traction control button to go to Competitive Mode => GOLD. No other car like this one currently on the market! It's so retro in a good way but with all the cool 21st century stuff... GOLD And to make it 3rd time - G O L D
@Jojo Kuki - all you said spot on. Now imagine all that 500lbs lighter, crazy lateral and mechanical grip, and insane brakes. Say hello to the c7 corvette grand sport.
This was by far the best Camaro content I’ve seen in while bro. Yes, definitely do no lift next time. I’ve raced A8s stock vs stock and we’ve been really close. No lift made a difference imo.
Way closer then I thought it would be! Comes down to who launches the best really. No lift shift definitely helps the manual. 10 speed looses a little more horsepower through the torque converter. Awesome race and video, thanks!! Manual for me all the way. Way more engaging and rewarding by far.
@@bondjames652 oh I know it all. Absolutely. If you don't know why the automatic transmission is faster then a manual then you don't deserve to have it explained again. Find out why yourself.
2-23-24 I am back in a 2021 2SS after making the mistake of trading my 19 2SS 1LE manual. I opted for the A10 this go round as we dont have many mountain twisties and hills. I enjoy both for different reasons. Both were RedHot. Never been a red fan but man they look good. I would have went for a Crush if one was found. I dont track, so did not 1LE this time. Prices are crazy post covid and possibly due to 24 being last year. Just nice to be back in one of these awesome toys!! Nice content tho.
I owned a 2018 2SS 1LE for 2 years and loved it. Did dozens of autocrossess and a couple track days. To be honest I was expecting the auto to pull harder. The 1les 3rd to 4th gear spacing felt slightly long to me. But the auto doesn't pull much. I always thought it was the gearing but I guess its just the drag that really holds the car back at high speeds.
Manuals are for people who like them. There’s not much performance advantage to a manual. That’s been that way for awhile. Heck, even dragsters use Powerglides.
Manual transmissions are old dinosaurs. A10 is AMAZING new technology! A10 best of both worlds.... I was a diehard manual guy 15 plus years ago having owned several sports cars from my 1st 88 mustang gt 5 speed to now a diehard chevyman.
Hell ya Chevy crew. Tbh gas engines are dinosaurs haha this is 100 year old technology. So I'll mate my dinosaur to my dinosaur and foot pedal this thing haha
I am a Anniversary Edition 2SS 6M NPP owner/driver ... and as you stated "the trick is to keep it in the power band" ... some don't quite understand that ... when I'm out there, in the red light grand prix, when the car hits the power band rpm ... I'm Shifting!! When it's in the power band, this car MOVES ... I've gunned down some pretty worthy opponents and stuck with some that impressed even me ... I love this car and hope to have it a long time
Well. There is the manual miss shift as seen in video. Plus driving sticks for 30 years, the new autos are superb. Plus in daily Dallas traffic they are way better, than the non stop clutching
I own a automatic 2022 camaro LT1 and I love the 1LE, camaro, diffently a rolling classic, but my drag racing roots wouldn't let me order a road racing machine Iike 1LE package, first is the price of 7000.00 which you now have to put on top of the price of a SS camaro, and second is how much weight it adds to the already heavy camaro, if you talk to drag racers where always trying and looking to move and shave weight off of our cars. Which equate to proformance and speed. And the automatic transmission for me is more consistent than a stick car. In a drag racing application. And in drag racing at the track you start from a dead stop, not a roll. And like you said which ever camaro you love go for it stick or automatic 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
Yup lt1 auto camaro.is the perfect drag car. Less weight, strip it down it's a hell of a fast car for the price. I'm glad you didint buy a 1le for drag racing. Bless your sweet soul. I never understand why guys would do that except they want to have it all. Which we know in performance world you can't haha. Great info bro. Thank you for watching
I had new 2019 2SS A10 and BEST 0-60 was 4.2 on dusty uphill no access rd, 68° and got my best 1/4 mile time of 12.2 seconds...but I traded for a new 2019 1SS 1LE 6 mos later, same no access dusty uphill rd, 69° I did best 1/4 mile time of 12.3 but my 0-60 was only 4.7 seconds on that best 1/4 run. Temps got hotter, times got slower, but one day, I found a flat, no access asphalt area, temp was 66° and it was only big enough to do a 0-60 run, and I MATCHED my best 2SS A10 time of 4.2!!! So hypothetically, under ideal and identical scenarios, same driver, I can match my M6 to my A10 in 0-60, but using NLS, I can hypothetically get a 11.8 seconds 1/4 mile on stock wheels/tires on mid 60s day on asphalt!!!
I don't get it. All high power drag cars are autos. All of them in the professional circuit. Why is it ok for people to drive an auto there, but are judged for it on the street? People need to focus their energy on something productive. Silliness.
Fast car vs fast driver. 1les are track cars which takes skill and time to learn proper drive line, controlling the car etc. straight line cars anyone can stomp a pedal and say look im fast. Ultimately dont care what anyone drives. But we do have more respect for the manuals.
I really wanted a 6 speed but after the research the 10 speed is faster. You guys should get out there with the LT1 10 speed on bigger meat, it will beat all the 1LE's out there... Awesome videos and yes do a 10 speed video!!!!
Thanks for the support man! All depends what your doing but ya the A10 is a fast beast. These tremecs are amazing to. The winner is Chevy and us haha. Keep up bro 💪
It’s all about knowing how to drive the manual I’ve driven my friends manual ss for him and have beaten all types of 10 speeds even coyotes most camaro owners don’t know they can do 40 rolls in 1st gear and 60 rolls in 2nd gear and have a lot more momentum going into higher speeds. Only chevy transmissions can do that
LT1 over a 1LE lol! clearly you don’t know maros. If you want cheap go LT1. 1LE is in its own class even compared to a SS. so don’t mention a LT1 beating all the 1les out there because that’s just comical. Mine is 10 speed as well.
Most people may have driven a stock manual or automatic if you ever drive a automatic with a cammed LS3 or LT1 with a 4000+ rpm stall converter that has been tuned well will blow your mind the response snappiness and shifting in a old outdated 6L80E is pretty good its something you have to experience to know even with stock 3.27 gearing its very very eager to rev
6 speed is so much better to drive. I sold my 2019 Hellcat because it was so boring with an automatic tranny. I actually want to purchase the 2021 Camaro SS 1LE 6 speed now..... Car looks great, sounds great, and looks like a great car to drive.
ive driven almost everything ( best friend owns dealership) i got a new 2020 1SS 1LE 6spd and its the most fun, rewarding car ive ever owned or driven!
Agreed, that's the video we need, back to back test by someone who can really drive the cars. I'm sure hot1le will deliver when he tests them out. I'll be waiting for that video for sure.
I think for the most part, manual drivers aren't very good. I have a 2019 Camaro SS 1le (only came manual) and love it. The automatics may or may not be that much faster. Without a doubt the manual is far more fun to row gears.
I literally GAPPED a SRT392 AUTO Challenger the other day. He was confused. I did it 4 in a row, from a dig, 20 roll (2) 40 rolls.. he didn't realize how fast the ILE 6 speed can be. I told him. He's so much heavier and stock vs stock. Not that close. I know there's Hellcat fanboys out there that are freaking out but let me put $25 k in this beast.. No chance
my best friend has a scatpak challenger widebody 6spd man and i get him in my 1le from dig, roll it dont matter. that challenger is awesome tho. it just needs to go on a diet!
@@Zle_blacklightning nope, blip the throttle and that activates competition shift which will drop it down to the lowest gear available for the current speed.
Yes absolutely. The mt-82 is a grenade waiting to blow lol unless as mentioned you get a mach1. In that case I'd still get the Camaro but they are then a closer comparison
My zl1 a10 vs my boys zl1 1le I put a gap of 2 to 2.5 every time. Remember, the 1le is 65lbs lighter than mine. And I'm 230lbs and he is 170lbs. When we went over 150mph, I pulled further out on him. When I put a tune on my trans, it got worse on him. Tune that auto and it will throw another 2.5 cars ahead. The auto could not do that back in the ls1 days. Lol Also, this is my first auto ever and he has never owned an auto. We have been drag racing manual cars for 25yrs.
It pretty much the manual guys that act like they’re gods among men, and Auto guys that say manual guys are elitists, outdated, and arrogant, that soil the scene. I just wish everyone could drive what they want to drive without putting someone else down for it 🤷🏻♂️
I hate myself for saying this but I think ill go with auto... daily driving, remote start and short gearing I think would make for a better driver. Although I will take a manual for a test drive and see how I feel. I love my manual elantra n but I feel like auto might be a good change up
1,000%!! I do not daily mine (6th gen 1LE), but I have drove it daily before and I will tell you, shifting & clutch work gets old when you’re not driving for fun, but as a fun car/weekend toy, manual hands down on a muscle car!!
I owned a 2018 Rs turbo 4 cylinder manual. I just drove an automatic 2020 zl1. It made me want to buy one immediately but idk if I want an automatic or manual
I have always had manuals my 2015 2SS 1LE was manual but I hated the 3 gear ⚙️ shift when power shifting sometimes so close to other gears would miss sometimes. Now my 2021 Zl1 1LE automatic is bad ass this transmission will out shift a human any day so always remember don’t use the paddle shifters or you will lose let the computer shift leave in drive 👍
Manual for me. I was gonna buy a C8, but once i discovered that it was auto only, it was instantly crossed off the list. So glad i bought my 18 1le. What a platform. 🔥
Glad your happy with it me if l spend this kind of money on a car looking at someone's tail lights off a stop light 150 feet out wouldn't bring a smile to my face but if that doesn't bother you enjoy shifting it my 2011 Camaro SS has a built 6L80e automatic transmission with a circle D 4200rpm stall converter and the opposite of you l wouldn't trade it for a manual or a new 10 speed auto the car is modified it leaves pretty dam hard for a 3780 pound street car with me in it you better be seriously on your manual shifting it to even think about staying with it from a dead stop even with the mild 3.27 stock gears it's knocking down 1.70 60 foot times
@@gloriamaletta8667 That doesn't bother me, because it it hasn't happened. You can find plenty of vids of people who know how to drive a manual, beating auto's. Plus manual trans cars put more power to the ground then their automatic counterparts. For the majority of people, yes auto's will be quicker, but I'm 52 and have driven nothing but manual my whole life, and to me, there's nothing like the feel of ripping gears manually. You are so much more connected and involved with the car and the drive. Shifting is an element of driving a sports car, that i can't do without. I drove a buddy's camaro with the a10 trans and wanted nothing to do with it. I was bored with it in 5 min. If you know how to drive, it is possible to beat an auto or run comparable times, but that's totally besides the point anyway seeing how i didn't buy the 1le package to drag race, or roll race. It seems to me, today more than ever, people's only measure of a car is by how fast it is in a straight line.
@@181le6 everyone likes different things I'm 58 years old your right 98 percent of people are not shifting a manual as fast as a well setup automatic your right my car has 18 inch skinnies on the front so it's no canyon carver for sure but it runs 7.40s at 94mph on the motor in the eighth mile and can cruise 80mph on the highway at 2100-2200rpm with the air conditioning on but it's not going through turns like your 1LE does but my car is inferno orange with a flat black hood rear spoiler black race star wheels and black Camaro fender emblems and black rear light bezels or trim and black rear and front bowtie emblems so it somewhat impersonates or has the look of a 1LE the car has BMR 1.5 lowering springs all the way around with the Mickey Thompson 305/45r17 ET Street R drag radials on the back with the 18 inch skinnies on the front l think the stance looks very aggressive the car is modified with a new GM performance LS3 495 horsepower crate engine with CNC ported LS3 heads ZL1 fuel pump and injectors to mention a few upgrades and runs on E85 started the modifications in September 2021 and was finished in October 2021 it has just over 600 miles on this new setup it has 16,000 dollars in upgrades plus the cost of a extremely clean 2011 Camaro 2SS costed 15,000 dollars so l have 31,000 dollars invested in it
@@181le6old people and their manuals smh this is a new age bro. there’s a reason Porsche and most super cars are only autos. I have 21’ 1LE in wild cherry tintcoat at 24 years old… in 10 speed and race weekly. Manuals aren’t faster, and they don’t put more hp to the wheels. This is 2023 not 1985. I would beat your 2018 on road or track old man 😂
So let me see if I get this right. The auto is stock betting a modded manual or keeping up with a modded manual and ur saying that the auto isnt much faster? If the auto had the same mods it wouldn’t it then beat the modded manuals?
@@Hot-1LE thanks I was asking because there was a point in the video that shows a few modded Camaros so I didn’t know if that’s what was running the stock auto
Run the 2016-18 8 spd auto. It'll beat both. The old 8 spd just gets it done. Its more of a 6 spd auto last two gears are over drive. The 10 spd is a 7 spd with 3 overdrives.
Now that the automatics have caught up with the manuals people that love manuals cannot accept it so they say things like “the manual is just way funner” “manuals sound way better when you shift”
Thats because they are. I drove new autos and they just dont feel the same. Its ok to not like manuals and prefer autos. Its ok to prefer manuals over autos.
I will take the manual on a camaro because of the crappy AFM on the autos. Your LT1 will outlast the autos LT1 will less problems like oil consumption and failed lifters and so forth on the auto. I wish GM would make AFM an option on the autos and not standard.
I wanted to get manual but my insurance rate is a little cheaper with a auto and plus the gas savings. I don’t really drive in a Straight line I typically am driving deep corners. We’ll see
@@tigergoesrawrr2519 because it's tq management at work. It never was meant to make the car faster. It was meant to save them warranty work. Likely none of you have any idea about all the tm involved on those cars. If you look at it crossways it's pulling tq. And tq is power. It's the only power.
@@Hot-1LE when you do it. Please get an exhaust camera so we can hear that no lift shift ignition retardation sound. It's honestly my favorite thing about GM cars haha
First of all I’m old school and a race should be always from a dig second I think a manual it’s way better than an auto (not faster) there a more connection between Driver and car it’s more enjoyable than an auto
The concept of arguing over manual vs auto is ridiculously immature. I have a 22ss A10 right now. And I had a manual 18 2ss. Sure, driving a manual is fun. But, it could depend on your families car situation, health conditions, availability of cars in your area, terrain (driving a stick in the mountains is not fun), and daily commute. Who cares what the car is. My team at work gives me shit for driving an auto.....its exhausting. Almost all modern sports cars are auto including the GTR and Hurrican. When EVs take over, manuals wont exist.
Idk if its immature. Its a preference. Bashing on someone for one or the other is immature. I dont care what anyone else drives. But for me its manual. Modern sports cars or EV is exactly why I dont own any of those. Its about the experience for me. Found automatics to be extremely boring even in faster cars. But ya if you got health or whatever then understandable. But i can tell ya when i hear that car pulling gears down the road the sound of a manual car IMO is superior to the mid gear shifts from an auto. Just preference who cares what people think. Enjoy your car man you bought what you wanted, not for them. But for you!
OP, You can’t miss shift an automatic dude. And idiots need to learn that using the paddle shifters DOES NOT make the car quicker, they’re only for a more sporty driving experience. Plus, Erving to redline when actual power has fallen off 450-500 rpm lower is pointless. Erving to redline is just for top speed in each gear tests.
Not one clean hit from the 20mph rolls the auto owner needs to sell his car lol and he even mis-shifted and bumped up 2 gears from the 40 roll. Auto’s trap higher stock and fbo or h/c and boosted too. Not an opinion those are according to records of the fastest manuals and auto per category. Manuals are more fun to some but some just like being faster lol 🤷♂️
There's a technique to racing an auto vs manual in these cars, and most people don't know how to do it. The trick for the auto to maintain shift superiority is to use the paddle shifters to downshift before the roll race starts to get at the start of the power band, once you lay into the gas, move the stick out of Paddle shifter mode, and let the transmission do the rest. Again that's in a roll race, from a Dig the auto will take a manual 9 times out of 10 depending on the driver mod as always.
I really wanted to make this video to see how close these cars are. The a10 is a kick ass transmission. Had I held my RPM higher on launch and did no lift shift, it might be closer, but that's real world runs for ya.
He was doing some weird things with his shifts hahah, I got rlly smoked by one in my race!
@@StirlingMossDrives haha ya you gotta be on your game cause ones that thing pulls it dosnt stop haha
Why was he shifting? On a roll you slap the stick over and let the trans do work. They’re considerably quicker that way. Good shifting by you though sir, makes me miss my 6 speed !
Idk bro I think he secretly wanted a manual 😭😅
I saw a video where this guy repeatedly smashed a A10 speed 5.0 with a 2018/2019 SS1LE using no lift shift. Now I have nothing but respect for the SS 1LE in auto OR manual BUT I wouldn’t trade the A10 speed for my 2020 SS 1LE manual. In my opinion, the 1LE is in it’s rarest form as a manual. Not hating, just my opinion. Thanks again for the content man.
Manuals sound so much better going down the road shifting even when cruising.
I'm now 5 months proud owner of a 2021 SS 1LE manual in Wild Cherry Tintcoat (gorgeous, gorgeous)... and I have no words to describe it.
I mean the whole package!
But that manual Tremec is something else. And now I'm practicing rev matching it myself and this is also another fully different experience. The car is so different and raw... then you do Sport mode and double tap that traction control button to go to Competitive Mode => GOLD.
No other car like this one currently on the market!
It's so retro in a good way but with all the cool 21st century stuff... GOLD
And to make it 3rd time -
G O L D
@Jojo Kuki - all you said spot on. Now imagine all that 500lbs lighter, crazy lateral and mechanical grip, and insane brakes. Say hello to the c7 corvette grand sport.
Got the same year and color and 6 speed love the car
I have a 10 speed wild cherry tintcoat took me 6 months to find one used low Miles in the color!!
@@donaldjames4340 that wild cherry tint coat isn't going to help you
@@gloriamaletta8667 ? What are you replying to me for you’re broke
This was by far the best Camaro content I’ve seen in while bro. Yes, definitely do no lift next time. I’ve raced A8s stock vs stock and we’ve been really close. No lift made a difference imo.
Yeah man i can see where that would def help. He inched when i shifted so next time NLS for sure. Appreciate the support as always hommie.
Just bought a 21 1LE auto with 1000 miles. I woulda preferred a stick, but the A10 is legit and they're not exactly easy to find right now
Hey mate, just wanted to ask about your opinion on the SS 1le 10spd, how is it?
We needed this content homie. Good looking out.
Appreciate that homie. 🤜🤛
Facts
@@Hot-1LE I appreciate this video I been looking forward to see a video like this 🙌 😍
Great content bro. I'm with ya 6Spd always all the way. Yeah those new auto trans are really good but never can replace that stick feel.
Agreed totally. And for how close they are performance wise I'm good getting that extra stick feel
Sure it can. When you live in a mountainous area and you daily drive it.
Way closer then I thought it would be! Comes down to who launches the best really. No lift shift definitely helps the manual. 10 speed looses a little more horsepower through the torque converter. Awesome race and video, thanks!! Manual for me all the way. Way more engaging and rewarding by far.
You nailed it all around man. 💪💪
So how is it faster than a manual . Tell us. You sound like a know it all.
@@bondjames652 oh I know it all. Absolutely. If you don't know why the automatic transmission is faster then a manual then you don't deserve to have it explained again. Find out why yourself.
2-23-24 I am back in a 2021 2SS after making the mistake of trading my 19 2SS 1LE manual. I opted for the A10 this go round as we dont have many mountain twisties and hills. I enjoy both for different reasons. Both were RedHot. Never been a red fan but man they look good. I would have went for a Crush if one was found. I dont track, so did not 1LE this time. Prices are crazy post covid and possibly due to 24 being last year. Just nice to be back in one of these awesome toys!! Nice content tho.
Great video!!!! I have a A10 2SS 1LE the same exact color as yours, and man it's a blast to drive!!! You can't go wrong with either 1, awesome cars💯
for real, bud i enjoy driving this car slow LOL Enjoy that red youll get a lot of love for it
@@Hot-1LELol your not lying!! Keep up the good content!!!
How do you like the 10spd 1le SS?
I owned a 2018 2SS 1LE for 2 years and loved it. Did dozens of autocrossess and a couple track days. To be honest I was expecting the auto to pull harder. The 1les 3rd to 4th gear spacing felt slightly long to me. But the auto doesn't pull much. I always thought it was the gearing but I guess its just the drag that really holds the car back at high speeds.
A10 is much better trans. I used to have a 2017.
Manuals are for people who like them. There’s not much performance advantage to a manual.
That’s been that way for awhile.
Heck, even dragsters use Powerglides.
Manual transmissions are old dinosaurs.
A10 is AMAZING new technology!
A10 best of both worlds.... I was a diehard manual guy 15 plus years ago having owned several sports cars from my 1st 88 mustang gt 5 speed to now a diehard chevyman.
Hell ya Chevy crew. Tbh gas engines are dinosaurs haha this is 100 year old technology. So I'll mate my dinosaur to my dinosaur and foot pedal this thing haha
Yeah, if you're application and target is drag racing, then current tech autos are probably a better choice. Everything else, manual.
@@joshuachilders129 u must be smoking crack!
@@Luckky-13 the good stuff, at that
Another great one! Yep, I’m with ya, always loved stick … and the Tremec is just, woah!!
Graci bro. The tremec is kick ass. Chevy does us so well haha
Hey man , some really great runs , im all for the manual but that auto can haul ass , just puts a smile on ya face ......Great vid
Much appreciated man. Yeah the auto rips.
I am a Anniversary Edition 2SS 6M NPP owner/driver ... and as you stated "the trick is to keep it in the power band" ... some don't quite understand that ... when I'm out there, in the red light grand prix, when the car hits the power band rpm ... I'm Shifting!! When it's in the power band, this car MOVES ... I've gunned down some pretty worthy opponents and stuck with some that impressed even me ... I love this car and hope to have it a long time
Cool video. I own a ZL1 a10, wish I would have bought the ZLE 6 spd. The a10 is great but I miss the engagement of a good manual.
Still a great car bro!!
i test drove a 1LE with the auto and it was fun! I love the 1LE with the TR6060 6spd. so much more fun to drive imo.
Fun watch!! (Rooting for the manual) THANKS 👍👍
Thank for watching man!
Well. There is the manual miss shift as seen in video. Plus driving sticks for 30 years, the new autos are superb. Plus in daily Dallas traffic they are way better, than the non stop clutching
There is auto missshifts in this vid too 😁
I own a automatic 2022 camaro LT1 and I love the 1LE, camaro, diffently a rolling classic, but my drag racing roots wouldn't let me order a road racing machine Iike 1LE package, first is the price of 7000.00 which you now have to put on top of the price of a SS camaro, and second is how much weight it adds to the already heavy camaro, if you talk to drag racers where always trying and looking to move and shave weight off of our cars. Which equate to proformance and speed. And the automatic transmission for me is more consistent than a stick car. In a drag racing application. And in drag racing at the track you start from a dead stop, not a roll. And like you said which ever camaro you love go for it stick or automatic 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
Yup lt1 auto camaro.is the perfect drag car. Less weight, strip it down it's a hell of a fast car for the price. I'm glad you didint buy a 1le for drag racing. Bless your sweet soul. I never understand why guys would do that except they want to have it all. Which we know in performance world you can't haha. Great info bro. Thank you for watching
I had new 2019 2SS A10 and BEST 0-60 was 4.2 on dusty uphill no access rd, 68° and got my best 1/4 mile time of 12.2 seconds...but I traded for a new 2019 1SS 1LE 6 mos later, same no access dusty uphill rd, 69° I did best 1/4 mile time of 12.3 but my 0-60 was only 4.7 seconds on that best 1/4 run. Temps got hotter, times got slower, but one day, I found a flat, no access asphalt area, temp was 66° and it was only big enough to do a 0-60 run, and I MATCHED my best 2SS A10 time of 4.2!!! So hypothetically, under ideal and identical scenarios, same driver, I can match my M6 to my A10 in 0-60, but using NLS, I can hypothetically get a 11.8 seconds 1/4 mile on stock wheels/tires on mid 60s day on asphalt!!!
Damn that's a good driver right there. Love to hear it man 💪💪
@@Hot-1LE tyvm go to my channel, click videos, watch top one!
I'll always have more respect for manual guys. You had to learn the nuances of your car to be fast, not just buy parts. Great runs my guy.
Thank you bro. I def had to be on my game against that auto haha
I don't get it. All high power drag cars are autos. All of them in the professional circuit. Why is it ok for people to drive an auto there, but are judged for it on the street? People need to focus their energy on something productive. Silliness.
Fast car vs fast driver. 1les are track cars which takes skill and time to learn proper drive line, controlling the car etc. straight line cars anyone can stomp a pedal and say look im fast. Ultimately dont care what anyone drives. But we do have more respect for the manuals.
@@RobertJohnson-lc9dibecause autos have better launch times with launch control. These manual Camaros have launch control too
Great video man! Love how we both did these races lol. The 10 speed is OP!
haha yah i saw your runs man. These things are so fun lol
These days Automatics are amazing and faster/better then manuals in the majority of situations. But manual will always be more fun🤷🏻♂️
I really wanted a 6 speed but after the research the 10 speed is faster. You guys should get out there with the LT1 10 speed on bigger meat, it will beat all the 1LE's out there... Awesome videos and yes do a 10 speed video!!!!
Thanks for the support man! All depends what your doing but ya the A10 is a fast beast. These tremecs are amazing to. The winner is Chevy and us haha. Keep up bro 💪
It’s all about knowing how to drive the manual I’ve driven my friends manual ss for him and have beaten all types of 10 speeds even coyotes most camaro owners don’t know they can do 40 rolls in 1st gear and 60 rolls in 2nd gear and have a lot more momentum going into higher speeds. Only chevy transmissions can do that
LT1 over a 1LE lol! clearly you don’t know maros. If you want cheap go LT1. 1LE is in its own class even compared to a SS. so don’t mention a LT1 beating all the 1les out there because that’s just comical. Mine is 10 speed as well.
Most people may have driven a stock manual or automatic if you ever drive a automatic with a cammed LS3 or LT1 with a 4000+ rpm stall converter that has been tuned well will blow your mind the response snappiness and shifting in a old outdated 6L80E is pretty good its something you have to experience to know even with stock 3.27 gearing its very very eager to rev
You’re dominating those gears lol manuals are cool but it takes some time to get to learn but it seems worth it.
Yessir well worth it. It just rewards the soul haha
@@Hot-1LE great answer!
Buy that car that makes you happy......
Simple, but great advice. Sometimes the obvious needs to be said.
Exactly man numbers are numbers none of that matters if you don't enjoy it's. Appreciate the support!
Way to represent bro, you were right there with him. Driver mod ftw. The guy in the FBO car should have done roll races instead.
Ay thanks man! I can def dial in my launch a little harder and some NLS we should be there
6 speed is so much better to drive. I sold my 2019 Hellcat because it was so boring with an automatic tranny. I actually want to purchase the 2021 Camaro SS 1LE 6 speed now..... Car looks great, sounds great, and looks like a great car to drive.
Yaaa I've learned for myself no matter how much HP a car has I want a manual. 1le is a manual car all around, it just completed the package.
ive driven almost everything ( best friend owns dealership) i got a new 2020 1SS 1LE 6spd and its the most fun, rewarding car ive ever owned or driven!
Yea no lift shift and have him have his car shift. We needed this 1LE content💯
Hell ya man hopefully next runs. Appreciate it bro!
Finally a man that can drive a manual
The A10 is faster,but something about shifting a manually makes it feel like a better experience !
The 10 speed is always shifting in the power band. 4 extra gears to keep it there
Sure needed a lot of gears to keep up with the manuals haha
Id love to see you do a comparison of driving a manual vs the 10 speed and your thoughts on them both
appreciate that man. Trying to work that out :D
Agreed, that's the video we need, back to back test by someone who can really drive the cars. I'm sure hot1le will deliver when he tests them out. I'll be waiting for that video for sure.
I think for the most part, manual drivers aren't very good. I have a 2019 Camaro SS 1le (only came manual) and love it. The automatics may or may not be that much faster. Without a doubt the manual is far more fun to row gears.
I literally GAPPED a SRT392 AUTO Challenger the other day. He was confused. I did it 4 in a row, from a dig, 20 roll (2) 40 rolls.. he didn't realize how fast the ILE 6 speed can be. I told him. He's so much heavier and stock vs stock. Not that close. I know there's Hellcat fanboys out there that are freaking out but let me put $25 k in this beast.. No chance
dude these cars are no joke, auto, manual it dosnt matter SS puts down power
my best friend has a scatpak challenger widebody 6spd man and i get him in my 1le from dig, roll it dont matter. that challenger is awesome tho. it just needs to go on a diet!
Just like I thought.. From a roll, we're golden
Pretty much i need to do NLS, and i think ill close that gap
@@Hot-1LE a10 has to use the paddles for rolls
@@Zle_blacklightning nope, blip the throttle and that activates competition shift which will drop it down to the lowest gear available for the current speed.
@@jdmozee12 gotta let the trans shift. There’s a small delay when you shift manually
Damn auto are fast but I prefer manual all day. Good video man
Graci man! Yeah I still prefer the manual to. Good to see the autos aren't bad anymore though.
same here bro!
@ 20 mph roll you left him in the dust 💯
auto a a little faster on 20 rolls and such, but the gearing really shines on top end especally once modded and that power band moves up.
Would you recommend a first time manual driver to get a 6 speed Camaro over a 6 speed mustang?
Camaro all day. Mustangs have the shitty mt82 trans. Unless you get a gt350 or the new Mach 1’s.
Yes absolutely. The mt-82 is a grenade waiting to blow lol unless as mentioned you get a mach1. In that case I'd still get the Camaro but they are then a closer comparison
Awesome video bro looking forward to seeing more content from you!
Ay much appreciated man!
@@Hot-1LE No worries you're welcome bro.
My zl1 a10 vs my boys zl1 1le I put a gap of 2 to 2.5 every time. Remember, the 1le is 65lbs lighter than mine. And I'm 230lbs and he is 170lbs. When we went over 150mph, I pulled further out on him. When I put a tune on my trans, it got worse on him. Tune that auto and it will throw another 2.5 cars ahead. The auto could not do that back in the ls1 days. Lol
Also, this is my first auto ever and he has never owned an auto. We have been drag racing manual cars for 25yrs.
love my 2SS 1LE A10.
It pretty much the manual guys that act like they’re gods among men, and Auto guys that say manual guys are elitists, outdated, and arrogant, that soil the scene. I just wish everyone could drive what they want to drive without putting someone else down for it 🤷🏻♂️
i agree. it has to be mentioned tho that the auto is a crutch while, the manual guy was putting in work. it has always been that way.
I hate myself for saying this but I think ill go with auto... daily driving, remote start and short gearing I think would make for a better driver. Although I will take a manual for a test drive and see how I feel. I love my manual elantra n but I feel like auto might be a good change up
I dont care..a manual is much more fun on a muscle car like this..
In twisties and hills yes, traffic, hell no. Shifting and blipping is a blast but sometimes you just want to chill and drive. At least for me.
1,000%!! I do not daily mine (6th gen 1LE), but I have drove it daily before and I will tell you, shifting & clutch work gets old when you’re not driving for fun, but as a fun car/weekend toy, manual hands down on a muscle car!!
I owned a 2018 Rs turbo 4 cylinder manual. I just drove an automatic 2020 zl1. It made me want to buy one immediately but idk if I want an automatic or manual
You know what id say hahaha
Just imagine one of these 10 speeds with a 4000+ RPM stall converter tuned well and a cam that pulls to 7200+rpm
I have always had manuals my 2015 2SS 1LE was manual but I hated the 3 gear ⚙️ shift when power shifting sometimes so close to other gears would miss sometimes. Now my 2021 Zl1 1LE automatic is bad ass this transmission will out shift a human any day so always remember don’t use the paddle shifters or you will lose let the computer shift leave in drive 👍
Homie any newer auto trans is shifting faster than a human. Esp if it’s a newer 10 speed.
Great video & love the footage of actual racing… New subscriber here!
Welcome to the channel bro! Appreciate the sub man got some cool things in store so stick with it if you can haha 🙏
@@Hot-1LE will do!!! I’m stuck between the a10 SS & the AT4 6.2 so hopefully your channel does me justice😅
Manual for me. I was gonna buy a C8, but once i discovered that it was auto only, it was instantly crossed off the list. So glad i bought my 18 1le. What a platform. 🔥
Glad your happy with it me if l spend this kind of money on a car looking at someone's tail lights off a stop light 150 feet out wouldn't bring a smile to my face but if that doesn't bother you enjoy shifting it my 2011 Camaro SS has a built 6L80e automatic transmission with a circle D 4200rpm stall converter and the opposite of you l wouldn't trade it for a manual or a new 10 speed auto the car is modified it leaves pretty dam hard for a 3780 pound street car with me in it you better be seriously on your manual shifting it to even think about staying with it from a dead stop even with the mild 3.27 stock gears it's knocking down 1.70 60 foot times
@@gloriamaletta8667 That doesn't bother me, because it it hasn't happened. You can find plenty of vids of people who know how to drive a manual, beating auto's. Plus manual trans cars put more power to the ground then their automatic counterparts. For the majority of people, yes auto's will be quicker, but I'm 52 and have driven nothing but manual my whole life, and to me, there's nothing like the feel of ripping gears manually. You are so much more connected and involved with the car and the drive. Shifting is an element of driving a sports car, that i can't do without. I drove a buddy's camaro with the a10 trans and wanted nothing to do with it. I was bored with it in 5 min. If you know how to drive, it is possible to beat an auto or run comparable times, but that's totally besides the point anyway seeing how i didn't buy the 1le package to drag race, or roll race. It seems to me, today more than ever, people's only measure of a car is by how fast it is in a straight line.
@@181le6 everyone likes different things I'm 58 years old your right 98 percent of people are not shifting a manual as fast as a well setup automatic your right my car has 18 inch skinnies on the front so it's no canyon carver for sure but it runs 7.40s at 94mph on the motor in the eighth mile and can cruise 80mph on the highway at 2100-2200rpm with the air conditioning on but it's not going through turns like your 1LE does but my car is inferno orange with a flat black hood rear spoiler black race star wheels and black Camaro fender emblems and black rear light bezels or trim and black rear and front bowtie emblems so it somewhat impersonates or has the look of a 1LE the car has BMR 1.5 lowering springs all the way around with the Mickey Thompson 305/45r17 ET Street R drag radials on the back with the 18 inch skinnies on the front l think the stance looks very aggressive the car is modified with a new GM performance LS3 495 horsepower crate engine with CNC ported LS3 heads ZL1 fuel pump and injectors to mention a few upgrades and runs on E85 started the modifications in September 2021 and was finished in October 2021 it has just over 600 miles on this new setup it has 16,000 dollars in upgrades plus the cost of a extremely clean 2011 Camaro 2SS costed 15,000 dollars so l have 31,000 dollars invested in it
@@181le6old people and their manuals smh this is a new age bro. there’s a reason Porsche and most super cars are only autos. I have 21’ 1LE in wild cherry tintcoat at 24 years old… in 10 speed and race weekly. Manuals aren’t faster, and they don’t put more hp to the wheels. This is 2023 not 1985. I would beat your 2018 on road or track old man 😂
@@gloriamaletta8667you know you’d trade that pos 2011 for a newer one stop my man.
So let me see if I get this right. The auto is stock betting a modded manual or keeping up with a modded manual and ur saying that the auto isnt much faster? If the auto had the same mods it wouldn’t it then beat the modded manuals?
The manual isn't modded in any way that makes any more power
@@Hot-1LE thanks I was asking because there was a point in the video that shows a few modded Camaros so I didn’t know if that’s what was running the stock auto
Please do a full comparison!!!
I’m 27 never drove a manual would y’all think a ss is too much power to learn?
Hell no. Go get one!
were you doing no lift shifts?
Not this time. Next time for sure
Run the 2016-18 8 spd auto. It'll beat both. The old 8 spd just gets it done. Its more of a 6 spd auto last two gears are over drive. The 10 spd is a 7 spd with 3 overdrives.
Man shifter FTW!
Yesssirr
Now that the automatics have caught up with the manuals people that love manuals cannot accept it so they say things like “the manual is just way funner” “manuals sound way better when you shift”
Thats because they are. I drove new autos and they just dont feel the same. Its ok to not like manuals and prefer autos. Its ok to prefer manuals over autos.
Tell him to throw that 10 speed away 😂 driver mod only💪🏽
I can only try bro but he's set on auto haha
I will take the manual on a camaro because of the crappy AFM on the autos. Your LT1 will outlast the autos LT1 will less problems like oil consumption and failed lifters and so forth on the auto. I wish GM would make AFM an option on the autos and not standard.
I wanted to get manual but my insurance rate is a little cheaper with a auto and plus the gas savings. I don’t really drive in a Straight line I typically am driving deep corners. We’ll see
Because of my driving style I think a manual will be better but id like to save money where I can
I sure would love that video bro 👍
That race at 3:35 the A10 Shifted Early too, & still got the Dub lol
I heard that too
With driver mod the manual 6th gen will always pull up top on a roll,its the faster car. Especially once mods come into play.
needed the 1st driver swapped in the red 1le and run that fa10 rom a roll i bet it wouldve pulled or been side by side.
Full comparison 🕵️🧞♀️👀
I don't know if he was using a paddle shifters but why doesn't he just let the car shift itself
Ya man we were all sloppy that day we gotta run again
Love this content bro.
Appreciate it man 🤜🤛
Nice. Subbed
auto is for grocery getters or daily drivers. But it would be one thing if there were ANY to buy.
You have to nolift shift when racing autos in a straight line.
Yup def have to do that next time
No lift shift slows you
@@HioSSilver1999 how?
@@tigergoesrawrr2519 because it's tq management at work. It never was meant to make the car faster. It was meant to save them warranty work.
Likely none of you have any idea about all the tm involved on those cars. If you look at it crossways it's pulling tq. And tq is power. It's the only power.
@@HioSSilver1999 i ran 12.28 with nls and 12.39 quick shifting.
Did he use the no lift shift?
No sir. Next run though.
Manual after 3 become monster
RACE ME NEXT !!!
Like to see auto vs 6 spd on road course
put a higher stall torque converter in that automatic it would perform a lot better
Your car has no lift shift. You have to use that bro it makes an awesome sound when you use it also i almost bought a camaro for it
Yup bro and launch control. Idk why I didint do them I get so use to not doing it haha. Def next run
@@Hot-1LE when you do it. Please get an exhaust camera so we can hear that no lift shift ignition retardation sound. It's honestly my favorite thing about GM cars haha
I got you bro.
mine makes a BRAPPP sound in between the gears!
Awesome.........
Appreciated ✌️
Wow that automatic driver actually sucks that manual is not keeping up with an a10
i have an a10 zl1. my car shifts flawlessly in track mode..im not saying itll crush a manual but youd better shift your ass off in a stock m6. :)
Haha challenge accepted!
M6 Camaro needs a driver mod. Does he even know the Camaros have no lift shifting?
What is a Camaro?
I bet the guy in the automatic was using the paddles
Now that's a great video
Much appreciated!
8 speed ss, never enjoyed taillights of any 10 speed
First of all I’m old school and a race should be always from a dig second I think a manual it’s way better than an auto (not faster) there a more connection between Driver and car it’s more enjoyable than an auto
And lastly, the manual has “no-lift shift” built in
If it’s not a manual it’s not a 1lE
I never understood putting the auto in the 1LE. The 1LE is the handling package to make it track ready. You're not bringing an auto to the track.
Yeah I agree, but at the end of the day they did it for the sales.
Now it's time to bust up a Mach 1.
Nice video
Thanks man!
The concept of arguing over manual vs auto is ridiculously immature. I have a 22ss A10 right now. And I had a manual 18 2ss. Sure, driving a manual is fun. But, it could depend on your families car situation, health conditions, availability of cars in your area, terrain (driving a stick in the mountains is not fun), and daily commute. Who cares what the car is. My team at work gives me shit for driving an auto.....its exhausting. Almost all modern sports cars are auto including the GTR and Hurrican. When EVs take over, manuals wont exist.
Idk if its immature. Its a preference. Bashing on someone for one or the other is immature. I dont care what anyone else drives. But for me its manual. Modern sports cars or EV is exactly why I dont own any of those. Its about the experience for me. Found automatics to be extremely boring even in faster cars. But ya if you got health or whatever then understandable. But i can tell ya when i hear that car pulling gears down the road the sound of a manual car IMO is superior to the mid gear shifts from an auto. Just preference who cares what people think. Enjoy your car man you bought what you wanted, not for them. But for you!
I think the roll was jumped by the manual. And or tbe kid in the s
Auto was sleeping.
OP, You can’t miss shift an automatic dude. And idiots need to learn that using the paddle shifters DOES NOT make the car quicker, they’re only for a more sporty driving experience. Plus, Erving to redline when actual power has fallen off 450-500 rpm lower is pointless. Erving to redline is just for top speed in each gear tests.
You can miss shift it by shifting it way too early or missing the shift and letting the car bounce off the limiter. He admittingly did no biggy
Not one clean hit from the 20mph rolls the auto owner needs to sell his car lol and he even mis-shifted and bumped up 2 gears from the 40 roll. Auto’s trap higher stock and fbo or h/c and boosted too. Not an opinion those are according to records of the fastest manuals and auto per category. Manuals are more fun to some but some just like being faster lol 🤷♂️
Manual is for me 2 ✔
Good taste 💪
There's a technique to racing an auto vs manual in these cars, and most people don't know how to do it.
The trick for the auto to maintain shift superiority is to use the paddle shifters to downshift before the roll race starts to get at the start of the power band, once you lay into the gas, move the stick out of Paddle shifter mode, and let the transmission do the rest. Again that's in a roll race, from a Dig the auto will take a manual 9 times out of 10 depending on the driver mod as always.
Nls. Woot woot!
Super 👌🔔👈