Drum Teacher Reacts to Buddy Rich - Windmachine - Episode 13
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
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Steve's analysis, initial reactions and hot takes of Buddy Rich playing Windmachine.
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Ya know. I completely forgot about "West Side Story", that's probably his most popular song he's known for!
Yep. WSS was a bit more BR than Channel One Suite was.
I had to play West Side and Channel One back to back last summer. Keeps you on your toes!
@@MichaelSoucy Now that's really channeling your inner drummer.
I also love "Away We Go", "Rotten Kid", "Machine", "New Blues" and "Swinging In A Hammock" from the album "The New One" (1967).
How about that old small group video of Buddy's version of, "Blues In The Closet", which Drummer World (and other uploaders) initially misidentified as "One Night Stand" on RUclips.
Btw, cloudview787 is the ultimate channel of B.R. live video collections.
@@Johnnycdrums "Group Shot" is my favorite on that album. Love the way it builds to a crescendo and that left hand at the end with the right on the ride cymbal bell makes me smile every time.
Buddy Rich was the Bruce Lee of drumming.
This...most perfect comment. He was transcendental
I'm not a drummer, and I think that Buddy Rich is the greatest drummer ever.
I am a drummer, I have no fucking idea...
"Buddy Rich is the greatest drummer to have ever drawn breath."
~~~ Gene Krupa ~~~
and coming from Krupa that saying a lot
Perfect technique. Blazing speed. Great tone. Spot on Rhythm. Buddy Rich was one of a kind.
I was a drummer as well. I have heard countless drummers and Buddy is absolutely the best!!!!!
I appreciate the opinion that Buddy was the first great drum hero, but Buddy would be the first to acknowledge that Gene was really the first great drum hero, moving drums to the forefront. And Gene, of course, also INVENTED the modern drum setup and IMPROVED the tools of the "trade," which Buddy readily adopted. The two drum heroes loved one another.
I totally agree: in any case, Buddy was the first drumming freak of nature, many have followed (Cobham, Roach, Palmer, Bruford, Bozzio, Colaiuta, Sanchez, Portnoy, Smith, Weckl, etc) but even til this day I have not seen no other drummer with such physical capabilities as Buddy, once in a lifetime talent.
Chick webb
My old school Jazz drummer experience was seeing Louie Belson play his double bass kit with Hoover High School Jazz Band in 74 or 75, grand opening of a new musical instrument store in Fresno, California in a parking lot. Three songs. Really amazing. It was through connections with Professor Lomprey at the Jazz Department at Fresno State. Believe it or not, the best Jazz program on the West Coast between 74-82. They not only took State at competitions but usually the whole West States. I grew up around that. I grew up with his son.
Animal from the Muppets gave Buddy a run for his money. 😆 When I was a kid I loved that drum battle. The look on Animals face when Buddy takes over, he looks like he found God. Then Animal gets pissed and thrashed his kit.
My very first exposure. My dad filled me in as it went down. Buddy's prequel to the stage was unreal
I work for Zildjian Buddy was a good friend of Armand Zildjian and he gave one of his drum kits to Armand it’s at the company in a spot dedicated to Buddy Rich it’s a amazing feeling to just stand in front of that drum set and picture the greatest drummer who ever lived sitting right there.
That's phenomenal. I'd love to be able to see that!!
I got to see Buddy live when he was an old man... 1982... He absolutely shredded the drums, sweat dripping off his face... Just when you thought he was done he'd turn it up higher... Sweat running off his face .... Most incredible performance I've ever seen...
Love the content man! I’d love to hear your opinion and breakdown of Stewart Copeland
Stewart Copeland is a African/Punk drumming beast. 😊
More of a feel drummer with fantastic syncopation, not known for phenomenal technique
Kids In The Hall reference.
Now I just have to get your address in some non public way
Holy shit, that was like 25-30 years ago. Goddamn, I'm getting old...
@@JunkdrummerTVYou have youtube messaging turned off. Send me an email at RetroScientificResearch@gmail.com and Ill reply with my address. Hey also! What bands are you playing in now?
But you didn't say the band name Mouth Congress
Was lucky enough to see him and his band live, met him after the show and was a real gentleman even to a 10 year old. He gave me his drumsticks but, after several moving homes they got lost. My father was in a band of 3 and the drummer really envious of me with the sticks, in a nice way..memories of that great man still with me...
"He said he never practiced...if that's true..f*** him." HILARIOUS!!
I laughed so long I missed the rest of the video!!
Ya that made me lol too
love the channel, and love you did buddy rich. he is old school for all the stuff you talked about, but so primal and precise at the same time, he's timeless
As a former guitarist, I immediately noticed his "economy of motion" which gives him his speed and accuracy, much like the shredders of the 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
Thank you so much for consistantly pronouncing Peart correctly. :)
This is a fantastic channel Steve!
Thank you Sean!!
Awesome video again man! Speaking of drum tuning, John Bonham tunes his toms high like a jazz guy. That’s a big part of that classic old school JB sound. Those high pitched toms.
Nice to hear someone recognize Buddy’s independence. Everyone overlooks that for some unfathomable reason.
Its usually mediocre and or drummers that don't have a great ear who dont notice that part
Buddy Rich is Franz Liszt on drums.
I love how you say that your dad used to watch Carson back in the day. Oh man, that hurts.
Carson is how I first saw Buddy Rich... then my love of the Smashing Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlain made me look him up again (after I read about his influence)... Also played a couple of Buddy’s originals in Jazz “orchestra”. Played bass in two different jazz bands... in college 😂 Definitely no future in that outside of big city Vegas-type shows. We always played a club called Neons in Richmond, VA. Big Band was a different beast. Sadly, the only experience I had playing bass in that realm was a brutal 5 hour set at a community/county dance in south PA. It took a full 1/5 of vodka to keep me and the two alternating drummers engaged that night. I swore off big band after that, but have nothing but respect for the guys who can hang for those ridiculously long gigs.
I'm 68 yr. old man and Buddy Rich was the king in those days. He held the left hand stick traditional and that give him more options in his drumming esp. his one hand rolls and then came L.Z. and John Bonham ! You're right two different drummers and two kings in their type of music!
Dream group: Buddy Rich, Stanley Jordan, Charnett Moffett, and Art Tatum.
Just imagine.
I've seen many of the world's greatest drummers, and was blessed to have met several, including Buddy Rich, Alan Dawson, Jojo Mayer, Vinnie Colaiuta, et al. And though I have seen the great Zakir Hussain in concert 1/2 dozen times, never met him.
The main point of Buddy Rich is the same with Zakir Hussain (and others in that rarified class of musician): Their superlative technique always serves the music, not the other way around. When the musician completely bypasses your intellect and affects you on a completely visceral level -- that's how you know you are experiencing and witnessing greatness.
glad i caught this!
Buddy started gigging in his parents’ vaudeville act, playing 250 one nighters a in 1919 at the age of 2. There’s your practice. He was billed as Baby Traps the Drum Wonder. His natural ability was enhanced by the exposure to all of the great show drummers on the circuit. If you find the audio from the vitaphone short he recorded at age 12.. well, he already sounded like Buddy Rich. His final recording, done 7-8 weeks before his last gig is astoundingly good. (Just in Time, available from Amazon ..Get the 2 disc version or miss out on one of the greatest solos he ever recorded). I should point out that Buddy tended to get over-excited to be on Carson. Check out these concert videos here on youtube to see the amazing level of relaxation he normally exhibited behind the kit and his effortless command of the music.. Montreal Jazz Fest ‘82: ruclips.net/video/QRKc90kuAaE/видео.html at The Hague 1977: ruclips.net/video/iEt4XB-6dKY/видео.html and at least the first tune here where you see a very happy BR (the guy on the bus tape totally had it coming BTW) with legendary Count Basie sideman Al Grey on trombone.. and feel the love. ruclips.net/video/oRdRilN-WIE/видео.html . Most of Buddy’s sidemen adored the guy and he was always tthere for them, too. (As long as they always played like their pants were on fire 😜). You need to know that. And yes.. there is still jazz out there, but we need new blood for sure.
Man I have seen Buddy Rich clips and damn he has got some kickass chops man. Well Steve ( Chris Sabbat lookalike 😜...nah man just kidding) you have got some real great videos man. I have been tuned into your channel for a very long time and this what I want drum reviews to be like. Another request man guys please anyone up for underrated drummer reviews like Brad Wilk or Phil Collins ?
He started out in vaudeville at 5 years old and played drums so he's legitimate virtuoso
Love the content mate. As a Brit I'd love an analysis of Phil Collins in his prime. Keep up the good work.
Brand X
Seriously some kind of genius. And the band is tight, too!
There will always be great drummers, but there’s only one Buddy Rich. Period.
Great break down. Buddy def the goat
Don’t know if you’ve covered them already, but how about reacting to Steve Gadd and Bernard Purdie.
Would love some Steely Dan bro!
Neil Peart did a tribute show to Buddy. Nevermind the solos, Peart spoke of his fantastic playing. Was high, in my opinion was Peart's strong point as well. A solo is one thing, a really amazing drummer drives the show.
Here in Newfoundland, Canada there's an amazing jazz band called Ouroboros that has an incredible young drummer. Not to mention that the band of five is four saxophone players covering all else. Lucky enough to catch them live in the summer and truly was surprised by how good the show was.
Bro, I have seen a clip of that band! Amazing stuff indeed
You might have to revisit Buddy (maybe I missed it?). What I enjoy about your channel is how you discuss technique and how it translates into an effect. The lay person hears the effect, but you have a way of explaining how some element of drumming, whether flash, licks, rudiments like paradiddles, or double strokes, or whatever, translates into creating a cool effect in a piece. That's really the art of drumming and music appreciation. You explain how Buddy is starting with the basic big band rhythm (syncopated ride patterns with high hat on the 2s and 4s) and how he's using tuning here to cut through an orchestra, but you don't get that close to his techniques and how he's deftly stringing together these rudiments, so smoothly. I would be interested in hearing you explain what all he's holding together when you say he has amazing independence. I can parse that he's keeping rhythm with his left foot and right hand, but then he responds to at least two melody lines between the horns and the saxophones (and probably completely improvised) with his left hand and right foot. Then he adds his own rhythms and melodies to complement and hold together those lines. You are right; it really is a bit of a lost art that the rock and (egads!) pop listeners have no vocabulary to begin to understand.
Man I love your channel. You should do a video on Tony Royster Jr.
I hadn't thought much about the tom pitches until you mentioned it here. I thought maybe it was either an individual preference or maybe something more common to that genre. Thinking about it now, it occurs to me that with mics of that era combined with old school PA/mixer gear you might need to tune differently. These days, the digital mixer I use has a 36 band GEQ for each input rather than the old analog boards back then that likely only had Hi-Mid-Low pots. It's way easier to make certain instruments stand out in the mix now with the right boosts/cuts.
I'm not sure anyone ever captured what BR's kit really sounded like, especially the kick. Pity, I'd have liked to hear his mic'd up all the way.
Love seeing any Buddy Rich stuff. Wind Machine stayed in the band's book until the very end. Great chart. Was your jazz trio name inspired by KITH, Steve? Haha. I love those guys, too.
We once played a restaurant gig and the manager made the check out to Paul bellini.
Jeff Hamilton is the best bona fide Jazz drummer on the planet right now.
I am a drummer and Buddy Rich was the master of drums, no doubt!
There’s this jazz group called Sons of Kemet I’d recommend
There rhythm section is straight fire 🔥
I'll check it out
Charly Antolini is right up there with Buddy Rich too.
Lol bass player was right on top !!! Fingers must have been on fire!!!!
I remember seeing an Ed Shaughnessy/Buddy Rich "Drum Battle" and Ed did Buddy's "Stick Trick" with him sat there near by. Great moment.
Ed was actually amazing in that battle, the closest any drummer has given Buddy a challenge, of course by the end Buddy just slayed lol
Maybe someone could do a reaction video on you talking
Need to hear that lunch with Ed S, story. He was phenomenal as well. I saw buddy twice. Once in a dinner theatre setting with my mom, & then with Frank Sinatra as his drummer (!!), also with my mom. That was in an arena setting in 1982, where frank opened the arena as its first act (Worcester, MA).
I will one day for sure
Nobody else can play drums like Buddy Rich....
Really been enjoying your videos, man! I’m a bassist not a drummer but it’s still really cool to see your take on artists from a drummer point of view. Do Joey Jordison next!!!! ;D
He's on the way
Junkdrummer TV awesome! Can’t wait!
Why not Chick Webb...remember the battle 1938 NYC, would be interesting to hear descriptions again of what took place//Chris
Wouldn't have thought a southern man would know about Kids in the Hall at all. Good on ya'!
I had the pear dream again.
Good show. The thing with big bands u need a good drummer to drive them and he did just that LOL. LIke ur commentary. Just an old jazz, saloon singer who has worked with big bands.
Carson show always featured buddy's musicianship. He was the best and he let you know it. Jazz genre peaked with fusion. Like weather report, chick Correa...
He gets such power with his left hand in traditional, it’s kinda nuts, maybe it’s that change of grip slightly. And yeah man, I practice that lick too and have been before I just recently started getting into like really studying the craft more and refreshing my ability to read music and improve it and learn exactly what I’m playing and not just go off of groove and feel, though I think playing without a metronome and only to your own feel is important sometimes to generate your own proper count that you could have in your head just in case your in ears go out or you play a gig that doesn’t use a metronome, etc.
Been turned on to Art Blakey. Would love to hear your thoughts on him!
Would love to see "drum teacher reacts to Stewart Copeland"
Where does the number 30 come from when talking about a big jazz band size. Buddy's bands were 15 members maybe 16 if he had a guitar ( he didn't use one very often, more early bands not later ).And yes West Side Story was the most well known tune, I was at a concert where he played both WSS and Chanel One in the same show ( I was in heaven ).
It's just a random exaggeration number I said in the heat of the moment to just emphasize how many more people are in a big band compared to say a rock band.
Just out of curiosity do you play any other instruments too?
Hell. I can barely play drums. Haha
Ey steve. I am enjoying your videos so much - especially because in the sea of reaction channels there ia just too much crap. You give a honest analysis and know what you are talking about
Have you considered reacting to matt garstka from animals as leaders? I would love to see that.
He's on the list!!
Thanks
Buddy Rich is the Gretzky of drumming, end of story. He created the game..
Is this the kind of music that they used to have on TV shows? What has happened to TV?
Hey it would be awesome if you did a video on Jimmy Chamberlin
Could you do a video on Keith Moon? Man, he was a maniac on drums!
I think that pops up on every one of his videos. Good one would be the video where Keith was high asf with his front teeth missing from when he crashed his car into a hotel pool and he's got his drums half full with water and live goldfish.
EightiesTV Do you have a link? I'd love to see that...lol.
Have you checked out Huub Jansen? Another amazing showman.
I have not
ruclips.net/video/Z7UdTyuP0X4/видео.html
Jesus Christ! Buddy Rich is the Godfather to all of us drummers! He was the shit!
Love Buddy! he was the greatest big band player of all time! I played in music College big band! its a tough gig. They just dont make drummers like this anymore!!
Someone mentioned "Gypsy Jazz." 😊 Wonder if you've covered any of Django Reinhardt arrangements? Bireli Lagrene has provided some incredible renditions of Gypsy Jazz music.
Hey! Can you do a video with Ian Paice?
How is it that the best drummersnever need to ever take a damn lesson? Or read a damn. note? Simply amazing!
Natural born talent. Anybody with due practice can be a good drummer, but only those exceptionally talented can achieve the highest echelons. Buddy was the very top, even now, no kidding, just look at his physical prowess, unmatched.
It's funny that jazz essentially started as dance music and yet it has become almost more academic than classical. You'll see a millions guys out there with their jazz degrees who can play Coltrane solos note for note on whatever instrument and modulate 500 times in one song, but they couldn't make your booty shake if their lives depended on it.
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I prefer bop jazz, like Roach or Williams, Buddy Rich is the One when we talk about Big Band.
Agreed!!
Have you done Ronnie Tutt ??
Not yet
Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa the original goats of drumming.
Hard to pick the GOAT of anything but would be hard to knock him off the top of the heap.
Steve Gadd please
Buddy Rich is ONE of the best drummers, but there is always always always someone better. I can tell you he lied his A$$ off if he said he never practiced. I think some of his playing was over peoples head, even drummers alike. There is point where your brain cannot decipher notes at that speed. ------>IMO
Sorry...NO ONE is, was, or EVER WILL BE better than Buddy Rich!!!
You can come up with ANY "subjective" B.S. your brain wants to, the fact is Bernard "Buddy" Rich tops them ALL!!!
It's undeniable...and not up for debate...PERIOD.
Maybe his comment about "never practicing" is another way of saying that he never feels that drumming is work to him, because maybe admitting he practice would mean that it's a job and not a joy like the saying "Ive never worked a day in my life"
The only thing he practiced was Karate. He might've done little things, like telephone books under the arms for a jam session for endurance purposes. But he was reallly a one off. Just thinking about how far he went without practice is mindnumbing. I think it made him impatient though. Things came easily for him and not others. He could learn a piece by listening to it once, not many people can really do that. So I think it made him expect more from others.
@Junkdrummer TV just subscribed to your channel, could You review the "Brann Dailor (Mastodon) - Crack the Skye" video. It's a Drum Camera view video on RUclips, it's a MEINL Cymbals channel video. It's one of My favorite songs, it's super hard to play & sing while playing. The song is about Brann's sister who took her own life, I don't know how he play's it, very emotional, they rarely play it live anymore. Thanks Man
He's on my list
@@JunkdrummerTV Cool Man, Thank You, I'll be watching out for it. I hate the Copyright issues You have to go through to find videos You can review. Keep up the good work. :-)
Thanks!! And yeah. It's a pain in the ass
Buddy Rich is one of the greatest ever. Don't forget Gene Krupa, however.
I mentioned him!!
Review Meytal( everybody hates you now.) diggin the channel
Stick around. She's on my list.
Can we pleaseeee get an Abe Cunningham (Deftones) reaction? He goes crazy, loving these videos
Coming in a few weeks
Make some more please. can you do Keith Moon? What about some questionable drummers like Peter Criss or similar? Helps to watch people playing poorly not just those who can play beautifully. Love to hear you unpack some of that stuff. Peace.
Dave Lombardo. Angel of death drums. Dave
Elvin Jones?
As you wish
A lost art. There is nothing new under the sun.
Buddy was a better drummer than most. Try playing these sets with the same "type" drum kit. That goes for John Bonham as well.
Actually the hi-hats are on the up beat.
Steve Smith!!
Definitely not one of his best, but there are lots of Buddy solos on the web. I particularly like the stuff he did with Harry James and the early stuff with his big band. It's so good it makes me cry.
Hey you should do Sick 6erpent by Casey Cangelosi
I know about the PB3 But I dont need any Drum Sticks lol
Hahaha. Fair enough.
Akane Hirose could give lessons to both Kruppa and Rich. If you don't believe me just Google her name.
Personally, I don't care about his personality, only his musicianship and Buddy kicked and drove the band unlike any other drummer. Superior skills, superior ears, superior phrasing equals the most tasteful musical expression.
Its not 2 & 4 on the hi-hat its the up beat of the 2 & 4 - 2and 4and.
Uuuhhhh. No. It's the the 2 and 4 brother.
@@JunkdrummerTV You're wrong. If you played jazz in school you count it 1n 2n 3n 4n play the bass drum on the down beat the hi-hat is on the up beat. Rock and pop and everything else the hi-hat is on the down beat.
ruclips.net/video/qz1EOtI-R3E/видео.html
Go 1 minute in. I'm glad I could clear this up for you.
If this doesn't clear it up I can post about 100 videos stating the jazz pattern is on 2 and 4.
@@JunkdrummerTV I'll agree with you.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the weirdness of the fact he was so chop crazy but he had such horrible posture. I read an article long ago talking about how bad his back got to where he would have to be carried to the kit at some gigs. Also, I think I would have to disagree about Gene Krupa. Although Rich had chops from another planet I think Krupa should be considered the first 'drum god' since he was the first to bring the full 'trap kit' showmanship to prominence. Anyway, dig the analysis!
Dude. That's a great point about his back. I've actually talked about the importance of good posture in other videos. Maybe I was mesmerized by the chops hahaha.
@@JunkdrummerTV Yeah that was why I mentioned it - I had seen you talk about it elsewhere - maybe Travis Barker and his crazy wrist issues :)