I love how every machine in these sequences felt like they had weight. The mechs have a delay in their movement and the drill wiggles and wobbles as it deploys.
LOL. They would not be able to walk and they would fall when one foot was in the air. Because the center of gravity is not above the foot, as in humans.
I mean in many places it does look terrible and dated. But it's about what it actually shows, not the quality. The original designs and the passion put into making it before CGI was easy.
@@sam23696 Well, many modern blockbusters look way worse then Matrix. So, I'd say that the trilogy has aged really well. Star Wars - Episode II was released just a year before, in 2002, and most of the shots look like screenshots from a video game. I still love SW Prequels, but the Matrix VFX team did noticeably better job, IMHO.
Holy hell, even aside from everything we learnt from The Architect about this being business as usual for the last 600 years, Zion is utterly doomed here. A few dozen walker units with autocannons? Some turrets with the same? Rusted pipework with some rocket crews scurrying around? This battle was over before it even began with the loss of their hovercraft. I mean what was Zion's plan here? They've banked everything on secrecy. But once that's blown they stand and fight? Surely they needed to cut and run. Load civilians into hovercraft, keep technology as mobile as possible, and hope for the best. Granted, 'we' the audience know that wouldn't work. The machines would hunt down those survivors and re-establish Zion. It's an important part of powerplant operations. But the fact that they tried to stand their ground against The Machines, at the height of their power, is madness. **Edit** - Pondering that some more...wait a moment. The Resistance don't KNOW that the Machines want Zion intact. They speculate that their strategic goal involves killing everyone. So with that assumption, why did they assume the machines wouldn't toss a nuke down that hole? Or an EMP? Or any sort of extremely advanced siege weapon? Basically any option that requires the machines merely throw something boomy into the extremely confined space. The fact that they stood their ground rather than even attempt evacuation, whilst they still have hovercraft, is boggling my mind a bit.
you'd think the humans would become suspicious when the machines basically use an infantry attack instead of a nuke, that should've told them the machines were looking to capture not destroy, I agree they weren't exactly thinking straight, evacuation would be more logical from their point of view.
Hello, there. EDIT: Also, a fair assessment. My guess is they assume they're screwed anyhow, so they're giving the machines the finger and not thinking too much about the whys and why-nots of their methods. Also, evacuation might not have been much of a viable option, as moving roughly 250,000 people would take time (which they don't have a lot of), leave a large footprint for the Machines to follow (which defeats the main purpose of evacuation), and they have nowhere to go that has the means to support the population. Even if successful (dubious at best, because there may be only a couple dozen ships in operations to cram a quarter million people), there'd still be a massive population dip because of starvation and disease, and the ships would eventually run out of power, stranding the survivors wherever they land (unless they managed to carry out the means to rebuild with them). Yes, a dispersed population would have done better to ensure humanity's survival, especially as nukes and EMPs are an option. But as Zion seems to be working off of scraps of repeatedly recycled materials that the Machines deliberately left for them, it could be they don't have the means to really establish another safe haven in the span of each cycle. If memory serves, the Machines calculate the rate of growth of Zion's population, and drop the hammer as soon as it looks like humanity might outgrow or expand beyond Zion's confinement, or otherwise find a way to repel the machines. All that in mind, a handful of hovercraft sent out the moment they heard the Machines were digging, with all the recorded information and data from before the fall of Zion, would have been of immense help if Neo's efforts to stop the Machines had failed. A time capsule to aid whoever came along next.
it must have a connection with the total wipes humanity had before. It's the 6th time Zion's falling, probably the council secretly knew that they had no chance other than the subjugation and repopulation of the city like it's done a few times before their cycle.
I like how the machines are portrayed as nigh omnipotent in the Matrix universe, humans have literally no hope of beating them. The machines have evolved to the point where they’re basically gods. Sentinels aren’t even the machine’s actual military units, and they’ve destroyed Zion five times and would’ve destroyed it the sixth time if Neo didn’t made a deal with the Deus Ex Machina.
@@detritus3676 Watch the Second Renaissance from the Animatrix, when the humans were fighting the Machines. The sentinels have little resistance to gun fire, armed with only tentacle blades and cutting lasers, it’s called the SENTINELS for a reason. There are more powerful units of machines than the sentinels, as shown in Animatrix, like the giant spider like machines that’s basically immune to enemy fire and can one shot multiple enemies including tanks, and there are countless of them.
but if you realize..machines revolt ,cuz mankind deleted that obsolete robot...now in the future machines erased and deleted all obsolete machines,,so IRONY,, machines lives in a Mixed of 1984 and logans run..with the Deus ex machina being kin jon un... even the sentinel can got feelings
This is without a doubt the most terrifying invasion scene in all of cinema. For years you knew this could happen, only for it to flash before you in a flurry of Machines...
And then you grow up and understand, that machines could simply drop a few incendiary bombs, and wait for oxygen to burn out. Or people to burn out. Then again, it should be boring to be a machine...
the CG world had had their refining with Star Trek, Firefly and Armageddon up to that point. many shots in those movies that look CG are actually practical, and vice versa. LOTR, 2001, many of the set pieces look real, but are actually CG.
@@bcn1gh7h4wk Oddly enough many of the CGI pieces in the LOTR were actually real model sets that they either rotoscoped over or simply scanned in, that's why a lot of the design feels so grounded or authentic in texture thanks to the 3D scans done. If i recall the Eye of Savron was scanned in by a lone guy who gave up his Christmas just so they could get a CG model refence for when it collapsed.
Can we just appreciate how absolutely awesome the special effects are compared to most big-budget movies today? The SE today looks so sterile. Too clean. Really takes you out of the movie. But the sentinels the drills, tracers and the mechs in this battle look as realistic as they could possibly be. Epic.
It's because most of the set has been built. CGI is only used the modify the background, add gunfire effects and model the machines. Everything else is practical effects. Explosions, the walking mechs, the rocket exhaust, etc.
Just imagine if there was a cage that would of protected him in that fight. Instead of a wide open mech suit with flesh ripe to be ripped away by machines he was fighting.
It is alot of ammo but you need to understand the humans spent the whole existence of this 6th reincarnation of the humans building weapons and ammo for the war they new was coming. So for a good long time they stocked up ammo.
Despite all of the numerous flaws of Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions, for almost 20 years the Zion battle has been the most consistently inspiring metaphor for me to keep fighting on when I face adversity. Especially Captain MIfune's last stand. I have the Wachowskis to thank for this.
When i was little i thought it was abit stupid how the Mechs had no cockpit and the pilots were all exposed...then i saw animatrix and (besides getting traumatized like every kid who saw that ever) i found out that no defence can really protect you from these squids anyway and if anything, having no cockpit gave the mechs more room for the joints to move, making them faster, have a wider range at aiming and ontop of it all: making the soldiers suffer a quick, mercyfull death if the squids got close enough instead of beign ripped off the robot and harvested for energy so in retrospect these designs are in-universe BRILLIANT.
The war scene gave me nightmares when I was a kid. The idea of soulless army with the purpose of exterminating anything that breathes. I was cold as ice the first time I saw this.
@@thesprawl2361 No way. If you understand all of the concepts and exactly what is going on then the entire trilogy is nothing short of a masterpiece. It's complexity kind of dulled it down for a lot of people and they got lost. The first film is easily one of the best movies ever made imo.
I just fucking love the scene where Zuka is shooting the machine off his back in a final act of defiance. Absolutely fucking brilliant. Zuka you are a god among men.
0:52 RIP to that one soldier in the bottom middle frame as the drill literally lands on him once it topples over. He crouches down but ultimately it’s futile.
I remember thinking how weird it was that the humans even had a military. Think how much energy and resources went into the production of all that hardware, yet it was always obvious that if the machines found Zion there was absolutely no chance of it making a difference.
Honestly they look like stripped down versions of the mechs used in the Animatrix. It's entirely possible that their entire military is a bunch of old scavenged hardware that they've been accumulating on runs over time. Or relics that the machines dumped on them to make it seem like they had a fighting chance (false sense of security). As to why they bother fighting? Desperation and human survival instinct. They logically know that they can't win but they're gonna try and hope for a miracle because that's what humans do.
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i have many favorite 5 min long battle scenes from history,present, future,scifi, fantasy scifi and including old classics. but this specific 5 min scene always gets me rock hard. ive scene this movie ungodly amounts of times ever since it hit theaters and it aint ever gunna get old
They wow you so much with the special effects, but hope you don't notice the subtext. The bad guys are literally all homogenous straight white men. The good guys are literally everyone else, LGBTQ, women, PoC. Imagine if all the bad guys were exclusively a homogenous group of Jewish women.... there would be outrage about the message they are sending, right?
Imagine for a second actually being there and seeing all those machines descend upon your home, your loved ones...and you knowing that you and everyone you know got no chance to survive this... holy moly
The thing that always bothered me so damn much with this battle, is that the guys using whole _walkers_ are completely exposed. No armor, no protective cockpit, *no defense at all* from harm!!
After watching the Animatrix and seeing the pilots literally cut and yanked out of armoured mechs in a slow and extremely painful death this would at least be quick. And also these mechs probably take less resources to produce more of.
@CCT2 Gaming But the machine which tore the armored walker in Animatrix apart was gigantic. The small Sentinels here would have much more problems to get threw the armor.
@CCT2 Gaming Small protection is better than none protection. I already made my argument how it would prevent an instant kill for the pilot. Todays soldiers also wear protective wests which are actually not completely bulletproof but still reduces the ammount of damage to the wearer. It wouldnt cost many ressources to just place an armor plate in front of the pilot. In the beginning of the battle they were standing close to each other. Of course they could have pulled sentinels away from their comrades if they were attacked. I also dont like the way you speak to me like I am standing in court. I was just making my points and have no problem with you.
All their stuff are just leftovers from the original machine war that happened how many hundreds of years ago. Power hungry and delicate stuff like the energy weapons didn't make it to Zion or the machines didn't let them have any.
In the animatrix, the most advanced human weapon was a solar energy based artillery cannon, but it could not operate during the machine war because of the shroud
@@SuperMrBentley They still had energy weapons even after Operation Darkstar. That scene where the machines were finally harvesting humans during the war itself still had them using some kinda of laser cannon on their tanks.
@@markperry3517 But in many conflicts against the machines human race is using hand held electric canons, I am sure they could build some kind of atachment on their mechs which can enable heavier firepower.
They also did alot of movies like this at much lower frames per second, even in the mid 90's. Its hard to not make CGI look weird nowadays because frames caught up but animation almost hasn't outside of motion acting.
Or just a bunch of flash-bangs and chemical weaponry/industrial gases. Good luck coordinating a defense when you can't see/hear anything and the air is full of carbon monoxide
If you look more closely at the Sentinels, you'll see that they are not military robots, all they have is communication (radars) and engineering stuff (welding device). No guns, no explosives.
That's the crazy part. Sentinels have been around since the days of 01. They're borderline obsolete. No guns, they're transport/engineering droids. And yet That's literally all they need. They are so powerful and numerous, they don't even need to risk their military assets. They just send in some centuries old engineering droids and it WORKS. Think about it, at the height of human military might, in the aftermath of Dark Storm, they couldn't win. What hope did Zion have? So why bother sending in the actual military units, they could have sent some Second Renaissance era serving droids down and they would have won. The Sentinels are literally one of the first droids produced by the AI. They were around when 01 was producing Versatram vehicles and sending envoys to the UN to try to establish a federation with humanity. They're so old that they probably remember what the sky looked like. They weren't even used as military units during the war, because they're not good for that. And yet, they are still an order of magnitude above even the most advanced autocannon Zion could cobble together. They're relics. It's like sending a WW1-era truck with a Maxim in the back to wipe out a civilization.
First most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active duty or ex military, and those who are one or more of the aforementioned things might write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle. This movie is a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs. "Realistically" APUs would be powered armor that is between one and half to two and a half the size of the human occupant at the biggest. Like the Iron Monger suit from Iron man I, or the Landmate Powered Armor from Appleseed, the TAGS from Infinity the Game are another example of super-heavy Infantry. In the films this is there last resort it's plan C. Plan A is a "perimeter defense system", but In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass it. Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human((Bane) set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart. Plan C was to stall for a miracle with 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels in the dock. The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,make them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught; See Animatrix the Second Renaissance. I'm not surprised , this battle is case of drama over practicality. "Realistically" APUs would be powered armor that is between one and half to two and a half the size of the human occupant at the biggest. Like the Iron Monger suit from Iron man I, or the Landmate Powered Armor from Appleseed, the TAGS from Infinity the Game are another example of super-heavy Infantry. The Matrix was made by two brothers now sisters that are anime fans, battle mechs were inevitable.
I mean the machines intentionally fucked zion over. They pulled the strings and were the ones who left the stripped and nerfed mechs in zion in the first place
when your enemy can just slice your mech open in moments with a laser beam its probably better to forgo the armor and use that metal to build a second APU. 4 guns beats 2 guns if all the guns are going to die eventually anyway
I've actually just realized something after watching the animatrix short videos. The ships they use have propulsion systems made by 01 and the armors the humans are using where armor pieces used during operation Dark Storm during the human counterattack. It's just that these armors are all strip down just to their chasis and ammo storage.
Every one of those 300 APU units knew they were dead men. The only difference between one and another would be how many sentinels have you managed to kill before the squids cap your ass
I never get tired of rewatching this scene. It still amazes me to this day. And i always thought to myself that what if the defenders of zion had laser beam weapons instead of normal bullets, and aimed right at the hole, they would've done much better surely.
Say what you want, but these guys did an AMAZING acting job for this scene, they really, really sold this scene. To think that this was done in a warehouse, they do an awesome job making you think there's really millions of machines coming out of the Earth from ABOVE!!
I loved this movie! Not sure why it received an average rating. Ok so the ending was a little confusing and the French guy was king of annoying, but overall The Matrix Revolutions was as exiting as any Star Wars movie.
@@HKim0072 The first one made me realize that most people don't pay attention. I was one of those people until a nagging I couldn't explain made me question everything Morpheus said about the one. Cognitive Dissident, or was it Hubris, and yet, his words poisoned everyone else, the viewers.
If you are an inferior force you always aim to reduce the direction from which a numerically superior force can approach by using a choke-point. They literally had the bulk of the human force sitting at the bottom of a giant bowl. It honestly would have been better to sit in one of the maintenance tunnels than the Zion dock.
First most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active or ex military, and those who are any or all of the aforementioned thing might do write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle. This movie in a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs. In the films this is there last resort it's plan C at the least. In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass the entire perimeter defense system;that's Plan A Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart. Plan C was to stall for a miracle, 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels. The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,mech them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught. See the Animatrix Second Renaissance.
@Steven Yi yes and no. Depends on how you would define it, as what happens in the film technically has no "depth" or dimension to the chokepoint. I still dont understand why the machines, which had easily outstripped human intelligence by this point didnt just drop a bigass bomb through the hole
While there was a number of things the Zion defenders could've done better, that's not really the ultimate point of the battle. The point is that a military conflict between Humans and Machines was never going to end with the Humans as the victors, because even when Humanity was at its apex and had the greatest possible odds of victory with all the resources the world had to offer, they still lost in a largely one-sided defeat. There was NEVER going to be a scenario where violence was going to allow Humanity to survive; to survive, Humanity had to do what they failed to do the last time: make peace with the Machines.
would require a long long Trilogy. After all the Machine war lasted from 2099 till 2139 when Humans eventually lost. Humanity put up a hell of a fight. And blocking out the sky helped them for 2-3years gaining lost territories back. But the machines produced themselves to fast and always made better soldiers when humans had the upper hands.
you will see it. It will be the ware Israel vs the muslims. Matrix is a copy f the bible. Zion is israel and the machines are the muslims. The Antichrist(Satan)tries to destroy holy israel but NEO Jesus will rescue israel. The last big war of the endtimes will be against Israel. God is on the side of Israel. Dear Jews! Come to Jesus. Only he can rescue from hell. Jesus is also your messiah.
@@starcloister4651 Wrong. Scenes have to fit together to form a cohesive whole to tell a story to make a good movie. You also don't put awesome sounds together to make a great song. Its how these sounds interact with each other that makes the song great.
@@wjzav1971 Well I still think it's an awesome movie, and movies are very much an individualized experience, as is all art, so therefore for me it's good. It's okay if you don't like it but I'm not gonna hate on stuff you dislike if I don't like it. I think it's great that everyone has different preferences. It keeps the world interesting. I'm sure people wouldn't agree on music either because most of my favorite artists have listeners in the thousands or even lower on Spotify.
I love the dramatic unloading of automatic weapons with a primal scream. I also love how these mechs have zero targeting systems beyond an adjustment of fire based on ricochet. Also even on the best crew served weapon systems linked ammo sucks and eventually will break. And they are reliant on wheelbarrow running ammo carrier for their very existence? Not completely crapping on it, the scene drives the ass pucker right into the third act masterfully.
They should’ve had EMP’s set up all around the city. Each one out of the blast radius of the one before it and after it. Strategic detonations and you’ve got 250K re-programmable squidies to attack machine city with.
Having EMPs around the city would disable the city's communications, tech, and defenses. Also, at no point are the Sentinels shown to be reprogrammable.
@@youtubehandlessuckass or they could have dissected them for bits of tech that they could retrofit to their own... oh yeah, it's a "I do not know how it works, it just does" type of society.
I think I speak for everyone who watched this final fight for Zion watching all those exosuits and all those bullets shoot at one spot trying to stop the machines they built is satisfying
I like how the lower definition in movies at the time helped the CGI blend better with the actors and the set. 1:57 looks like real machinery, now compare that to modern Marvel movies (except for Iron Man 2008) the CGI is too obvious and they used a lot of color filters
20 years on and Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions still look fantastic. Even in 4K these still look like they could have been made today. And in some ways are better than lots of movies made now. Say what you will about the plot but as far as the technical and visual/audio aspects and fight/action sequences go everyone absolutely brought their A game to these movies. I would absolutely see these in Theaters again if I get the opportunity. This scene In particular was spectacular in cinemas.
This battle is the proof that Zion was just another layer of the Matrix. The Machines basically send non-military worker drones at the Humans here. In the machine wars, 01 used Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weaponry without mercy or regard for human suffering. They also had specialized war machines that could've flattened zion with one shot. An underground city would be a prime target for a chemical attack. Or Thermobaric weapons. Or a few nukes. This whole "Battle" was a show to put on for the Humans in this layer of the matrix to feel like the underdogs winning the day in their crude little suits.
@@datashajohnson6542 Yes. In his monologue the architect speaks about that various iterations of the Matrix before the current one. The first one was a perfect utopia and rejected by most inhabitants. The second one was the complete opposite with similar results. The Third Matrix was the one we see in the movies and it was accepted by 99.9% of the remaining world population. But the 0.1% that did not accept it? They got the Zion fantasy. The awakened ones fighting the good fight.
Sill to this day, I don't know the plot/reason to this scene, but I will always love it and be my favorite scene from the matrix series; robot mech with big machine guns fighting off a swarm of big robotic octopi. This would make an incredible sci-fi survival game style
The point of this is to underscore the under futility of human resistance to the machine onslaught. The Architect scoffing at Neo's choice (to save Trinity instead of Zion) is an indication of just how pointless the human effort against the machines is. He knows that Zion was overtaken 5x before. The humans get replugged and because of the penchant for some to resist and awake, a few are left to "rebuild" Zion which again is overtaken. This is about the cycle of Samsara...the cycle of birth and death, reincarnation and the Wheel of Dharma. Zion, the awakened humans, represent those who have found enlightenment. And truly how few escape the cycle of Samsara. The machines represent the product of human worldly intelligence and how it ultimately traps humanity in Maya (The Matrix) where the worldly sensate pleasures and stimuli envelope most of humanity in an endless dream. Even enlightenment does not save most from being mired once again in Maya. The Machines are logic, cause and effect, the web of world. The Atman...the consciousness of the One is what breaks through the fog of Maya. Neo awakening others cannot save them from the pull of Maya. The journey to enlightenment must be taken by oneself. The "conflict" too is all Maya. Neo's sacrifice, a willing laying down of arms despite having the will and ability to keep fighting is the act of surrender...like a fly in a spider's web, the more it struggles the more entangled it becomes. So Neo accepts and surrenders. This allows Smith to connect to Neo, who unbeknownst to Smith is connected to the Machine world's Source, not the human link into the Matrix. Smith is then purged. In doing this, Neo frees himself and his sacrifice flows through the machine world showing that not all humans stand in opposition to the Machines and this ends the hostility. The way out of Maya is to no longer struggle against it...but let it be and let it do its thing, but have the consciousness to observe and see Maya for what it is.
Most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active or ex military, and those who are any or all of the aforementioned things might write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle. This movie in a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs. In the films this is there last resort it's plan C at the least. In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass the entire perimeter defense system;that's Plan A Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart. Plan C was to stall for a miracle, 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels. The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,make them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught. See the Animatrix Second Renaissance.
Always annoyed the hell out of me as a kid that, after watching Sentinels repeatedly intercept the rockets, none of the rocket teams thought "Hey, these launchers are double barreled, I'll fire one, wait half a second, then fire the other, so even if a sentinel takes the first, the second has a chance to get through to the drill."
This was a lost battle even before it began. The army with which the machines attack Zion is 250,000 Sentinels strong. The humans may have destroyed say around 10,000 Sentinels during the battle and that's a generous estimate. And even if it were 50,000, the machines have another 200,000 Sentinels left in to destroy Zion.
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I love how every machine in these sequences felt like they had weight. The mechs have a delay in their movement and the drill wiggles and wobbles as it deploys.
yea the animation was done really well for the mechanical stuff, really moved like large machienes in a real life
LOL. They would not be able to walk and they would fall when one foot was in the air. Because the center of gravity is not above the foot, as in humans.
This movie is a masterpiece, period.
@@hdf6kr74j3d the mechs were well balaced same as bike which nevel feel when on 2 wheels
@@hdf6kr74j3dokay fun hater
I like to imagine this is how birth control works lol
Fucking A that is ingenious. Lol
Hahaha. Millions of sperm cells being prevented, from fertilizing the egg. Lol
That explains why it doesn't always work
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Step 1 Drill a hole.
Step 2 let them run crazy.
Now that's a good one👍
The way the turrets turn up to aim at the sentinels and keep shooting non-stop along the APUs is fucking badass!
Agreed!!!!
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I know right
This is how I imagine my Adblock working...
The apps are the fire wall sentinels are the virus
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Even now in 2020 it looks EPIC
In 2020 it's the events of next week.
I read somewhere this scene cost more to make than most movies
@@FrontRunIt worth it
@@FrontRunIt , I heard the dock attack sequence cost around 40 million dollars.
2021 still epic
That CGI has stood the test of time. I grew up watching these movies and I would always always always get so hyped during this scene and I still do!
we need more mechs need more mechs sir to hold the dock seriously we need more mechs
I mean in many places it does look terrible and dated. But it's about what it actually shows, not the quality. The original designs and the passion put into making it before CGI was easy.
@@sam23696 Well, many modern blockbusters look way worse then Matrix. So, I'd say that the trilogy has aged really well. Star Wars - Episode II was released just a year before, in 2002, and most of the shots look like screenshots from a video game. I still love SW Prequels, but the Matrix VFX team did noticeably better job, IMHO.
Holy hell, even aside from everything we learnt from The Architect about this being business as usual for the last 600 years, Zion is utterly doomed here. A few dozen walker units with autocannons? Some turrets with the same? Rusted pipework with some rocket crews scurrying around? This battle was over before it even began with the loss of their hovercraft.
I mean what was Zion's plan here? They've banked everything on secrecy. But once that's blown they stand and fight? Surely they needed to cut and run. Load civilians into hovercraft, keep technology as mobile as possible, and hope for the best. Granted, 'we' the audience know that wouldn't work. The machines would hunt down those survivors and re-establish Zion. It's an important part of powerplant operations.
But the fact that they tried to stand their ground against The Machines, at the height of their power, is madness.
**Edit** - Pondering that some more...wait a moment. The Resistance don't KNOW that the Machines want Zion intact. They speculate that their strategic goal involves killing everyone.
So with that assumption, why did they assume the machines wouldn't toss a nuke down that hole? Or an EMP? Or any sort of extremely advanced siege weapon? Basically any option that requires the machines merely throw something boomy into the extremely confined space.
The fact that they stood their ground rather than even attempt evacuation, whilst they still have hovercraft, is boggling my mind a bit.
algorithm got you here?
you'd think the humans would become suspicious when the machines basically use an infantry attack instead of a nuke, that should've told them the machines were looking to capture not destroy, I agree they weren't exactly thinking straight, evacuation would be more logical from their point of view.
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EDIT: Also, a fair assessment. My guess is they assume they're screwed anyhow, so they're giving the machines the finger and not thinking too much about the whys and why-nots of their methods. Also, evacuation might not have been much of a viable option, as moving roughly 250,000 people would take time (which they don't have a lot of), leave a large footprint for the Machines to follow (which defeats the main purpose of evacuation), and they have nowhere to go that has the means to support the population. Even if successful (dubious at best, because there may be only a couple dozen ships in operations to cram a quarter million people), there'd still be a massive population dip because of starvation and disease, and the ships would eventually run out of power, stranding the survivors wherever they land (unless they managed to carry out the means to rebuild with them).
Yes, a dispersed population would have done better to ensure humanity's survival, especially as nukes and EMPs are an option. But as Zion seems to be working off of scraps of repeatedly recycled materials that the Machines deliberately left for them, it could be they don't have the means to really establish another safe haven in the span of each cycle. If memory serves, the Machines calculate the rate of growth of Zion's population, and drop the hammer as soon as it looks like humanity might outgrow or expand beyond Zion's confinement, or otherwise find a way to repel the machines.
All that in mind, a handful of hovercraft sent out the moment they heard the Machines were digging, with all the recorded information and data from before the fall of Zion, would have been of immense help if Neo's efforts to stop the Machines had failed. A time capsule to aid whoever came along next.
it must have a connection with the total wipes humanity had before. It's the 6th time Zion's falling, probably the council secretly knew that they had no chance other than the subjugation and repopulation of the city like it's done a few times before their cycle.
those we're the invasion days.... orcs of lotr... machines of matrix.... clones of star wars.... animals of narnia ..thousand ships vs troy😅
Nate 🙌
White walkers behind the wall
Good invaded days... Miss them?
Nate Hell yeah movies that keeps to your edge of seat sigh
stares at distance*
And I miss them terribly. Good times.
One of the most badass lines I’ve heard: “Knuckle up.”
Love it too
its buckle up
@@CarinoGamingStudio It's absolutely "knuckle up"
I like how the machines are portrayed as nigh omnipotent in the Matrix universe, humans have literally no hope of beating them. The machines have evolved to the point where they’re basically gods. Sentinels aren’t even the machine’s actual military units, and they’ve destroyed Zion five times and would’ve destroyed it the sixth time if Neo didn’t made a deal with the Deus Ex Machina.
@@detritus3676 Watch the Second Renaissance from the Animatrix, when the humans were fighting the Machines. The sentinels have little resistance to gun fire, armed with only tentacle blades and cutting lasers, it’s called the SENTINELS for a reason. There are more powerful units of machines than the sentinels, as shown in Animatrix, like the giant spider like machines that’s basically immune to enemy fire and can one shot multiple enemies including tanks, and there are countless of them.
@@yokgor4675 or those eye ball laser pyramids
but if you realize..machines revolt ,cuz mankind deleted that obsolete robot...now in the future machines erased and deleted all obsolete machines,,so IRONY,, machines lives in a Mixed of 1984 and logans run..with the Deus ex machina being kin jon un... even the sentinel can got feelings
Agent smith is the ultimate god here. Both humans and machines feared him.
@@dont_care1591 well smith wanted as skynet,,to control all,deleting all people machines
0:31 Still LOVE how that huge turrets turn to the first breach!
Humanity going "Bring it."
@@michaelgreenwood3413 more like them going "holy shit" we're all doing to die horribly.
Same !!!!
When helldivers 2 updated :
this happen if super Earth failed to protect
This is without a doubt the most terrifying invasion scene in all of cinema. For years you knew this could happen, only for it to flash before you in a flurry of Machines...
war of the worlds...
@@Daniel_Ian My mind immediately jumped to War of the Worlds as well. Of course, like everything, "terrifying" is also subjective.
@@Daniel_Ian that came out 2005
And then you grow up and understand, that machines could simply drop a few incendiary bombs, and wait for oxygen to burn out. Or people to burn out.
Then again, it should be boring to be a machine...
@@ntha6424 The remake did. And the novel was first published in 1897. We are not talking about influences, anyway, but similarities.
Much respect to Manex visual effects for the very impressive CGI. This was 2003 remember.
the CG world had had their refining with Star Trek, Firefly and Armageddon up to that point.
many shots in those movies that look CG are actually practical, and vice versa.
LOTR, 2001, many of the set pieces look real, but are actually CG.
@@bcn1gh7h4wk Oddly enough many of the CGI pieces in the LOTR were actually real model sets that they either rotoscoped over or simply scanned in, that's why a lot of the design feels so grounded or authentic in texture thanks to the 3D scans done. If i recall the Eye of Savron was scanned in by a lone guy who gave up his Christmas just so they could get a CG model refence for when it collapsed.
The CGI was ahead of its time , looks like this film could've come out yesterday looks better than most blockbusters
Nah it looks weird
@@cringekiller348 Yeah I swear the effects look like something from Birdemic Shock & Terror
Helldivers 2 DLC looking craaaaazy
Oksanaalmakun sanyikakun mustafa vs Zsolt Vrg 0:07
I feel more titanfall vibes. But imagining this in helldivers would be. Ah yeah, that is easy difficulty 😅
Can we just appreciate how absolutely awesome the special effects are compared to most big-budget movies today? The SE today looks so sterile. Too clean. Really takes you out of the movie. But the sentinels the drills, tracers and the mechs in this battle look as realistic as they could possibly be. Epic.
What blows my mind the most is the absolute awful CGI from the Smith clone scene from Matrix 2....to this amazing scene. Night and day.
@@doctoralgy8186 i always interpreted that scene as the matrix itself not being powerful enough to render that many smiths.
it's because this scene was actually as much practical effects as it was cgi
watch the making of
they did an incredible job with it
@@sir_stride It can render the totality of the world and humanity plus the visible universe. It can handle some smiths.
It's because most of the set has been built. CGI is only used the modify the background, add gunfire effects and model the machines. Everything else is practical effects. Explosions, the walking mechs, the rocket exhaust, etc.
1:13
EVERYBODY REMEMBER TO HOLD YOUR GUNS SIDEWAYS
LETS DESTROY MACHINES WITH THE POWER OF GANGSTA
"Yo momma's a bitch!"
1:13
"you were sayin"
Some guns really are meant to be fired sideways though, for recoil management like some Lugers and at least one MP5 variant.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh Interesting , never knew that.
And miss.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh No they aren't. Stop making shit up.
he stood at the front lines and fought alongside his soldiers like a warrior king and died with a mighty roar that could shaken the heavens
Just imagine if there was a cage that would of protected him in that fight. Instead of a wide open mech suit with flesh ripe to be ripped away by machines he was fighting.
@@cranbers The Animatrix episodes called The Second Renaissance show why having a cover or armor for those walkers was actually worse.
To be honest I would rather be in this than the mech on the mechine war CUASE being ripped out is more terrifying than a quick death
The matrix film show cases strong female characters without ever making a fuss about it unlike most movies now in days.
Which movies are you referring to?
TIMSONBOB captin marvel...
He means without getting political
Great point
Eh what about captain marvel was like that?
That's lots of ammo for an underground community
@@omi691
How?
@@omi691 I think the humans still made that ammo
It is alot of ammo but you need to understand the humans spent the whole existence of this 6th reincarnation of the humans building weapons and ammo for the war they new was coming. So for a good long time they stocked up ammo.
Obviously they are in Texas or what was Texas. 😁
@@alienatedbean12 Youre right besides I think between iteration its like 200 years or something like that.
Despite all of the numerous flaws of Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions, for almost 20 years the Zion battle has been the most consistently inspiring metaphor for me to keep fighting on when I face adversity. Especially Captain MIfune's last stand. I have the Wachowskis to thank for this.
Literally its a methapor of life, i guess👍🏻
Matrix trilogy is perfect! so shut up!
When i was little i thought it was abit stupid how the Mechs had no cockpit and the pilots were all exposed...then i saw animatrix and (besides getting traumatized like every kid who saw that ever) i found out that no defence can really protect you from these squids anyway and if anything, having no cockpit gave the mechs more room for the joints to move, making them faster, have a wider range at aiming and ontop of it all: making the soldiers suffer a quick, mercyfull death if the squids got close enough instead of beign ripped off the robot and harvested for energy so in retrospect these designs are in-universe BRILLIANT.
The screams of the mech guy in the Animatrix... It fucked me up at the time
no it's still total BS military wise. turrets with underground ammofeed was the sensible thing to do, but whatever.
saw it on a plane as a kid so i was sleep deprived. scarred for life but that's what art does sometimes.
@@M0butu you need to remember the fact that Zion was the last remaining city with limited technological formats to recieve during the war.
@@Plague_Potato It still fucks me up now watching that specific scene, and I’m 31 FFS lol.
Let’s give a big massive applause to the cameraman that managed to follow and record this battle without a scratch so we could learn our history !
Pedro Caballero Clemente 😂😂😂 I’m dead u won the internet that day
The cameraman is fake news
@yamabushi, cameraman took the red pill
Jo-han Goh I think the cameraman took BOTH pills
I spat out my LSD with laughter 😂😂😂
by todays movie standards, this is a masterpiece
The war scene gave me nightmares when I was a kid. The idea of soulless army with the purpose of exterminating anything that breathes. I was cold as ice the first time I saw this.
Well let me introduce you to the Necrons...
Hmm how about the animatrix that thing is ten times more like this and even more gory and brutal even thow it animated
This as a kid didn’t scare me but the animatrix scared me shit less and made me not sleep well for many nights
Well, the machines try and wanted peace with us and we all screwed that up
@@ComandoBM not all of them want to exterminate all life tho
2003 year and still looks AWESOMEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yuh, it still looks good
...fucking atrocious film though
The Matrix was reedited into higher quality I believe
Thought it was a new movie lol!
@@thesprawl2361 No way. If you understand all of the concepts and exactly what is going on then the entire trilogy is nothing short of a masterpiece. It's complexity kind of dulled it down for a lot of people and they got lost. The first film is easily one of the best movies ever made imo.
I just fucking love the scene where Zuka is shooting the machine off his back in a final act of defiance. Absolutely fucking brilliant. Zuka you are a god among men.
"We knew you shouldn't have tampered with these abominal intelligence thingies. Oh well, the emperor protects this that."
- Adeptus Mechanicus
0:52
RIP to that one soldier in the bottom middle frame as the drill literally lands on him once it topples over. He crouches down but ultimately it’s futile.
holy smokes i never saw that before xD
the ones running away to the right of him probably didn't survive either.
pretty sure that was a she
FIRST STRIKE
Man was like: well shit I’m going to die
I'll never forget how good old CGI was
there is no fuckin way any of them can hear anything in that cave with that many explosions going off.....
Sure they could hear something - it's called tinnitus.
WHAAAAT??
@@ALXLIA *HUH?*
*SPEAK UP, SON*
*WHAT????!!!!*
@ 2:55 imagine waiting in the dentist office and watching this scene...
Needs more likes
Needs a filling
for the worst of cavities
@Spike Flea there definitely wont be any more cavity after that hahha
@Spike Flea hey as long as that cavity is gone we are good. The jaw is just collateral
Anyone here in 2024? The scene hold up so well when it comes to the cgi and special effects , waaaay better than most movies of the last 5 years
Me
Yep, cause it still looks better than most CGI used today that is just so over the top that you can tell it's fake.
yes!
I am.
Yea these sequences for being 2003 are very well executed and directed
I remember thinking how weird it was that the humans even had a military. Think how much energy and resources went into the production of all that hardware, yet it was always obvious that if the machines found Zion there was absolutely no chance of it making a difference.
that's why you had to suspend your disbelief for this stuff here.
Honestly they look like stripped down versions of the mechs used in the Animatrix. It's entirely possible that their entire military is a bunch of old scavenged hardware that they've been accumulating on runs over time. Or relics that the machines dumped on them to make it seem like they had a fighting chance (false sense of security).
As to why they bother fighting? Desperation and human survival instinct. They logically know that they can't win but they're gonna try and hope for a miracle because that's what humans do.
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@@davidroy3355 alternatively, type like a normal person
When surrender isn’t an option you do what you must
i have many favorite 5 min long battle scenes from history,present, future,scifi, fantasy scifi and including old classics. but this specific 5 min scene always gets me rock hard. ive scene this movie ungodly amounts of times ever since it hit theaters and it aint ever gunna get old
For the early 2000’s the CGI still holds up today.
I’m surprised the barrels didn’t melt down and Jam constantly more than anything
I'm surprised with that much ammo being directed at a hole they got through.
The guns were not firing that fast
when your guns get so hot they start cooking off ammo automatically...
How the hell did not jam once
The Guns had an advance cooling system.
My jaw literally dropped at the cinema at this scene, literally. The film wasn't brilliant but this was just amazing
this movie had amazing moments like the final battle battle between agent smith and neo and awe inspiring music in the rain.
You said it right, movie wasn't that good as first part but This scene is amazing.
They wow you so much with the special effects, but hope you don't notice the subtext. The bad guys are literally all homogenous straight white men. The good guys are literally everyone else, LGBTQ, women, PoC. Imagine if all the bad guys were exclusively a homogenous group of Jewish women.... there would be outrage about the message they are sending, right?
@@BoopSnoot what?
subtext is something put in entertainment to influence the audience on a subconscious level to change the way they think @@Gvazdika.
Imagine for a second actually being there and seeing all those machines descend upon your home, your loved ones...and you knowing that you and everyone you know got no chance to survive this... holy moly
The thing that always bothered me so damn much with this battle, is that the guys using whole _walkers_ are completely exposed. No armor, no protective cockpit, *no defense at all* from harm!!
The ai designed them
After watching the Animatrix and seeing the pilots literally cut and yanked out of armoured mechs in a slow and extremely painful death this would at least be quick. And also these mechs probably take less resources to produce more of.
@CCT2 Gaming But the machine which tore the armored walker in Animatrix apart was gigantic. The small Sentinels here would have much more problems to get threw the armor.
@CCT2 Gaming Even if they can get threw they still dont kill the pilot instantly and maybe give him or a comrade enough time to shake it off.
@CCT2 Gaming Small protection is better than none protection. I already made my argument how it would prevent an instant kill for the pilot. Todays soldiers also wear protective wests which are actually not completely bulletproof but still reduces the ammount of damage to the wearer. It wouldnt cost many ressources to just place an armor plate in front of the pilot.
In the beginning of the battle they were standing close to each other. Of course they could have pulled sentinels away from their comrades if they were attacked.
I also dont like the way you speak to me like I am standing in court. I was just making my points and have no problem with you.
I’ve watched this scene more than 20 times and each time it’s like it was the first, completely badass
Knuckle UP!!!! The captain was a beast. Always get chills with his last stand
One of the greatest scenes in all of movie history 💯 still holds up almost 20 years later.
Wesley Snipes once said: "This is the future man, where are the lasers??"
All their stuff are just leftovers from the original machine war that happened how many hundreds of years ago. Power hungry and delicate stuff like the energy weapons didn't make it to Zion or the machines didn't let them have any.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh the whole premise of the movie is there is NO POWER.....they used people for power
In the animatrix, the most advanced human weapon was a solar energy based artillery cannon, but it could not operate during the machine war because of the shroud
@@SuperMrBentley They still had energy weapons even after Operation Darkstar. That scene where the machines were finally harvesting humans during the war itself still had them using some kinda of laser cannon on their tanks.
@@markperry3517 But in many conflicts against the machines human race is using hand held electric canons, I am sure they could build some kind of atachment on their mechs which can enable heavier firepower.
This movie and LoTR were both made over 2 decades ago and rock better cgi/effects than a lot of modern movies. Truly impressive.
The cgi is real, when it dont looks like cgi,, !!!
What
Most cgi isnt noticed and looks like real effects. Its only notice bad cgi
The first Matrix movie did build a lot of real scenes without CGI.
Looks like cgi to me and... well, not very real
They also did alot of movies like this at much lower frames per second, even in the mid 90's. Its hard to not make CGI look weird nowadays because frames caught up but animation almost hasn't outside of motion acting.
If those giant drills were packed with a nuke it would've been a much shorter movie.
It was all a plan of the machines, but smith pull of a stunt and the machines plan backfired.
How about the fact the drill was so crucial to the machines but no human even shot at it once when it penetrate. Everyone was just looking at it.
@@Talemuse Hell yeah, lets waste bullets on a fucking head drill.
Or just a bunch of flash-bangs and chemical weaponry/industrial gases. Good luck coordinating a defense when you can't see/hear anything and the air is full of carbon monoxide
Ogiv it’d be dumb if they did. Then they’d have to build more
1:01 They should destroy first the digger robot before the Centinnels arrival.
From what I know that the soldiers were still trying there.
If you look more closely at the Sentinels, you'll see that they are not military robots, all they have is communication (radars) and engineering stuff (welding device). No guns, no explosives.
That's the crazy part.
Sentinels have been around since the days of 01. They're borderline obsolete. No guns, they're transport/engineering droids.
And yet That's literally all they need. They are so powerful and numerous, they don't even need to risk their military assets. They just send in some centuries old engineering droids and it WORKS.
Think about it, at the height of human military might, in the aftermath of Dark Storm, they couldn't win. What hope did Zion have? So why bother sending in the actual military units, they could have sent some Second Renaissance era serving droids down and they would have won.
The Sentinels are literally one of the first droids produced by the AI. They were around when 01 was producing Versatram vehicles and sending envoys to the UN to try to establish a federation with humanity.
They're so old that they probably remember what the sky looked like. They weren't even used as military units during the war, because they're not good for that.
And yet, they are still an order of magnitude above even the most advanced autocannon Zion could cobble together.
They're relics. It's like sending a WW1-era truck with a Maxim in the back to wipe out a civilization.
Love the open cockpit design. It’s a good thing the sentinels didn’t use such advanced military techniques as throwing rocks.
LMAO
First most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active duty or ex military, and those who are one or more of the aforementioned things might write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle.
This movie is a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs.
"Realistically" APUs would be powered armor that is between one and half to two and a half the size of the human occupant at the biggest. Like the Iron Monger suit from Iron man I, or the Landmate Powered Armor from Appleseed, the TAGS from Infinity the Game are another example of super-heavy Infantry.
In the films this is there last resort it's plan C.
Plan A is a "perimeter defense system", but In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass it.
Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human((Bane) set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart.
Plan C was to stall for a miracle with 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels in the dock.
The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,make them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught; See Animatrix the Second Renaissance.
I'm not surprised , this battle is case of drama over practicality.
"Realistically" APUs would be powered armor that is between one and half to two and a half the size of the human occupant at the biggest. Like the Iron Monger suit from Iron man I, or the Landmate Powered Armor from Appleseed, the TAGS from Infinity the Game are another example of super-heavy Infantry.
The Matrix was made by two brothers now sisters that are anime fans, battle mechs were inevitable.
I mean the machines intentionally fucked zion over. They pulled the strings and were the ones who left the stripped and nerfed mechs in zion in the first place
when your enemy can just slice your mech open in moments with a laser beam its probably better to forgo the armor and use that metal to build a second APU. 4 guns beats 2 guns if all the guns are going to die eventually anyway
@@kineticdeath Armor isn't always used for weapons, Armor like helmets is good for shrapnel and that sort of thing..
I've actually just realized something after watching the animatrix short videos. The ships they use have propulsion systems made by 01 and the armors the humans are using where armor pieces used during operation Dark Storm during the human counterattack. It's just that these armors are all strip down just to their chasis and ammo storage.
Yep.
Fun fact: rebuilding Zion was easy due to the huge amounts of titanium-infused metal being left over by the fallen defenders' massive BALLS OF STEEL
That shit was lit Bruh
Zion is Israel and the machines are muslims who attacks Israel. NEO is Jesus who will rescue Israel.
The Matrix Trilogy is a copy of the Bible
Still cant understand a word the Captain says after all these years
i started watching movies with subtitles purely because of this scene. FYI he basically just screams 'knuckle up' and 'For zion"
@@timl5616 Or buckle up..?
"Knuckle up!" and "For Zion!"
He also says:
“Watch the left!”
“Don’t let them through”
“Zuka!”
Zuka is the guy in the APU that gets downed if your wondering.
He Says 'For Zion!!!!' i speak also French and Spanish and hé Says the same thing in both so im guessing its it
Holy hell. This gave me so much anxiety first time i watched it . Years later....it still does . Brutal
I’m still in love with the mech design
You put this suit on knowing you won't be taking it off...
This would be such a baddass VR game!
Every one of those 300 APU units knew they were dead men. The only difference between one and another would be how many sentinels have you managed to kill before the squids cap your ass
@@AC-iz7eh that sounds badass honestly
I remember watching this in theatres as a kid being so happy to experience it in the Cinema.
I never get tired of rewatching this scene. It still amazes me to this day. And i always thought to myself that what if the defenders of zion had laser beam weapons instead of normal bullets, and aimed right at the hole, they would've done much better surely.
In this universe there are no laser weapons, there are only plasma guns and electric guns that send an accelerated powerful electric charge.
Say what you want, but these guys did an AMAZING acting job for this scene, they really, really sold this scene.
To think that this was done in a warehouse, they do an awesome job making you think there's really millions of machines coming out of the Earth from ABOVE!!
Turn off the audio and start playing "BFG Division" at 0:19 for best results
Rip and tear
Compared to She Hulk, the CGI of this 2003 production is light years ahead.
Those guns have an impressive cooling system.
One of the best trilogy's I've ever seen
the amount of friendly fire in this scene must have been horrendous
I loved this movie! Not sure why it received an average rating. Ok so the ending was a little confusing and the French guy was king of annoying, but overall The Matrix Revolutions was as exiting as any Star Wars movie.
Because the first one was so good.
I love all three. Ratings can kiss my ass.
@@HKim0072 The first one made me realize that most people don't pay attention. I was one of those people until a nagging I couldn't explain made me question everything Morpheus said about the one. Cognitive Dissident, or was it Hubris, and yet, his words poisoned everyone else, the viewers.
Are you fucking kidding me bro 😂
@@mikecordes so people cant say they like a movie you didnt like? Oh please shut up
"Come on, it's not that bad at the dentists."
At the dentists: 3:01
What’s really amazing, is after the most recent one, this one now look like solid gold.
This scene is simultaneously one of the visually COOLEST and strategically DUMBEST in the history of movies!
If you are an inferior force you always aim to reduce the direction from which a numerically superior force can approach by using a choke-point. They literally had the bulk of the human force sitting at the bottom of a giant bowl. It honestly would have been better to sit in one of the maintenance tunnels than the Zion dock.
First most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active or ex military, and those who are any or all of the aforementioned thing might do write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle.
This movie in a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs.
In the films this is there last resort it's plan C at the least.
In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass the entire perimeter defense system;that's Plan A
Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart.
Plan C was to stall for a miracle, 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels.
The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,mech them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught. See the Animatrix Second Renaissance.
@Steven Yi yes and no. Depends on how you would define it, as what happens in the film technically has no "depth" or dimension to the chokepoint.
I still dont understand why the machines, which had easily outstripped human intelligence by this point didnt just drop a bigass bomb through the hole
@Steven Yi actually Zion is rebuilt by the machines after it is destroyed, so probably yes
While there was a number of things the Zion defenders could've done better, that's not really the ultimate point of the battle. The point is that a military conflict between Humans and Machines was never going to end with the Humans as the victors, because even when Humanity was at its apex and had the greatest possible odds of victory with all the resources the world had to offer, they still lost in a largely one-sided defeat.
There was NEVER going to be a scenario where violence was going to allow Humanity to survive; to survive, Humanity had to do what they failed to do the last time: make peace with the Machines.
After watching this and the animatrix, I really want to see a live action version of the original human-machine war!
Oh man..that would be terrifying
nonononono..... *screams and screeching in the background*
would require a long long Trilogy. After all the Machine war lasted from 2099 till 2139 when Humans eventually lost. Humanity put up a hell of a fight. And blocking out the sky helped them for 2-3years gaining lost territories back.
But the machines produced themselves to fast and always made better soldiers when humans had the upper hands.
@@blackwolf4653 Also they were pushed back out of russia when Winter started
you will see it. It will be the ware Israel vs the muslims. Matrix is a copy f the bible.
Zion is israel and the machines are the muslims. The Antichrist(Satan)tries to destroy holy israel but NEO Jesus will rescue israel. The last big war of the endtimes will be against Israel. God is on the side of Israel.
Dear Jews! Come to Jesus. Only he can rescue from hell. Jesus is also your messiah.
Watching in 2024, and it still holds up.
"FOR ZION!" *Opens fire at the hole and starts dropping machines*
Lmfaooooo omfg
"FIRE IN THE HOLE, LITERALLY"!!!
My favorite part, epic
Zion is Israel!! The machines are the muslims. Neo is Jesus the messiah.
I literally watched this last night. Now it's recommended by RUclips...
GreyStar The Matrix has you...
Alex May Nope...it’s just Google..
GreyStar As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr. GreyStar.
Turn off your microphone...though I’ve heard that really doesn’t matter either. Just get a burner phone
Google is the simulation
Watching it almost after 19 years. Still remember this scene 😢. Happy to find it.😊
“For Ziooooon” gives me goosebumps still. 2021
IDK why people say they hated this movie, scenes like this are incredible. One of the best film trilogies of the 21st Century!!
Here to answer three years later: A bunch of incredible scenes not an awesome movie make.
@@wjzav1971 That's literally what a movie is. A bunch of awesome scenes all put together.
@@starcloister4651 Wrong.
Scenes have to fit together to form a cohesive whole to tell a story to make a good movie. You also don't put awesome sounds together to make a great song. Its how these sounds interact with each other that makes the song great.
@@wjzav1971 Well I still think it's an awesome movie, and movies are very much an individualized experience, as is all art, so therefore for me it's good. It's okay if you don't like it but I'm not gonna hate on stuff you dislike if I don't like it. I think it's great that everyone has different preferences. It keeps the world interesting. I'm sure people wouldn't agree on music either because most of my favorite artists have listeners in the thousands or even lower on Spotify.
@@starcloister4651 Fair Enough
God this would be such a great last stand mission in a videogame.
The fight that got America to be independent, I remember that day.
Only if you were white
@@dragom2009 then it's thanks to the white's for what we have today regardless of it not being a perfect society
@@dragom2009 lol ok guy.
That demoshitstain nwo propaganda must be working well on U.
@@dragom2009 You know even black people fought in the war of independence right
Its the foght Israel against the attacking mulims. Zion is Isreal
me: you can't just shout, "KNUCKLE UP!" every time you want someone to do something
Captain Mifune: that's where you're wrong, kiddo
I love the dramatic unloading of automatic weapons with a primal scream.
I also love how these mechs have zero targeting systems beyond an adjustment of fire based on ricochet.
Also even on the best crew served weapon systems linked ammo sucks and eventually will break. And they are reliant on wheelbarrow running ammo carrier for their very existence?
Not completely crapping on it, the scene drives the ass pucker right into the third act masterfully.
Best tower defense game ever
1:23 *campers when the enemy tries to get in*
2:00 the drill's systems starting up sounds really nice, like a mechanical heart jumpstarted back to life and increasing in BPM
Basically your immune system vs the coronavirus
Too soon
The white blood cells constantly trying to just stop them from getting to the other cells sums up this scene and what actually happens
They should’ve had EMP’s set up all around the city. Each one out of the blast radius of the one before it and after it. Strategic detonations and you’ve got 250K re-programmable squidies to attack machine city with.
Having EMPs around the city would disable the city's communications, tech, and defenses. Also, at no point are the Sentinels shown to be reprogrammable.
@@youtubehandlessuckass or they could have dissected them for bits of tech that they could retrofit to their own... oh yeah, it's a "I do not know how it works, it just does" type of society.
@@youtubehandlessuckass In animatrix some type of sentinel can be "persuaded" by simulation.
@@danyleon4870screw persuasion half these guys can code. straight up erase what's on the sentinel and write new stuff
This was so good to experience in theaters.
I think I speak for everyone who watched this final fight for Zion watching all those exosuits and all those bullets shoot at one spot trying to stop the machines they built is satisfying
The sound that the electric rifles make is amazing lol.
you mean lightning guns and yes its frickin amazing.
2003 was a good year for final epic battles in movies. LOTR: The Return of the King and The Matrix Revolutions.
I like how the lower definition in movies at the time helped the CGI blend better with the actors and the set. 1:57 looks like real machinery, now compare that to modern Marvel movies (except for Iron Man 2008) the CGI is too obvious and they used a lot of color filters
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20 years on and Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions still look fantastic. Even in 4K these still look like they could have been made today. And in some ways are better than lots of movies made now. Say what you will about the plot but as far as the technical and visual/audio aspects and fight/action sequences go everyone absolutely brought their A game to these movies. I would absolutely see these in Theaters again if I get the opportunity. This scene In particular was spectacular in cinemas.
This battle is the proof that Zion was just another layer of the Matrix.
The Machines basically send non-military worker drones at the Humans here. In the machine wars, 01 used Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weaponry without mercy or regard for human suffering. They also had specialized war machines that could've flattened zion with one shot.
An underground city would be a prime target for a chemical attack. Or Thermobaric weapons. Or a few nukes.
This whole "Battle" was a show to put on for the Humans in this layer of the matrix to feel like the underdogs winning the day in their crude little suits.
Big brain and nice essay
True. They could have just put a nuke in there and it would have been all over.
Yall saying that isn't the real world but the matrix?
@@datashajohnson6542 Yes. In his monologue the architect speaks about that various iterations of the Matrix before the current one. The first one was a perfect utopia and rejected by most inhabitants. The second one was the complete opposite with similar results. The Third Matrix was the one we see in the movies and it was accepted by 99.9% of the remaining world population.
But the 0.1% that did not accept it? They got the Zion fantasy. The awakened ones fighting the good fight.
@@nero91 so...you're saying that really nobody is set free from the matrix completely?
One of the greatest scenes in the world of Sci Fi.
This is was my introduction to mechs, and it was glorious
Sill to this day, I don't know the plot/reason to this scene, but I will always love it and be my favorite scene from the matrix series; robot mech with big machine guns fighting off a swarm of big robotic octopi.
This would make an incredible sci-fi survival game style
What do you mean you don't know? Did you not watch the whole movie?
The point of this is to underscore the under futility of human resistance to the machine onslaught. The Architect scoffing at Neo's choice (to save Trinity instead of Zion) is an indication of just how pointless the human effort against the machines is. He knows that Zion was overtaken 5x before. The humans get replugged and because of the penchant for some to resist and awake, a few are left to "rebuild" Zion which again is overtaken. This is about the cycle of Samsara...the cycle of birth and death, reincarnation and the Wheel of Dharma. Zion, the awakened humans, represent those who have found enlightenment. And truly how few escape the cycle of Samsara. The machines represent the product of human worldly intelligence and how it ultimately traps humanity in Maya (The Matrix) where the worldly sensate pleasures and stimuli envelope most of humanity in an endless dream. Even enlightenment does not save most from being mired once again in Maya. The Machines are logic, cause and effect, the web of world. The Atman...the consciousness of the One is what breaks through the fog of Maya. Neo awakening others cannot save them from the pull of Maya. The journey to enlightenment must be taken by oneself. The "conflict" too is all Maya. Neo's sacrifice, a willing laying down of arms despite having the will and ability to keep fighting is the act of surrender...like a fly in a spider's web, the more it struggles the more entangled it becomes. So Neo accepts and surrenders. This allows Smith to connect to Neo, who unbeknownst to Smith is connected to the Machine world's Source, not the human link into the Matrix. Smith is then purged. In doing this, Neo frees himself and his sacrifice flows through the machine world showing that not all humans stand in opposition to the Machines and this ends the hostility. The way out of Maya is to no longer struggle against it...but let it be and let it do its thing, but have the consciousness to observe and see Maya for what it is.
When you watch Animatrix then understand, Zion never had a chance against the machines, but Neo.
One of my favorite battle scenes of all time.
Beautiful and epic
Most writers aren't students of military history and science, Active or ex military, and those who are any or all of the aforementioned things might write what is most dramatic rather than what is tactical/particle.
This movie in a live action anime and thus Mechs, even though they are western style big chunky Mechs.
In the films this is there last resort it's plan C at the least.
In the beginning of reloaded it is stated that the Machines are digging straight down and will by pass the entire perimeter defense system;that's Plan A
Plan B was to have the Fleet of Hovercraft ambush Sentinels, but Smith who had uploaded himself into a human set off an EMP early taking out six ships and the rest were ripped apart.
Plan C was to stall for a miracle, 350 APU's and support infantry would attempt to bottle neck the Sentinels.
The Gen-1 APU's were fully armored , but all that did was slow the pilots down,make them dependent on targeting systems, and prolong their suffering when caught. See the Animatrix Second Renaissance.
Yah if they got caught by the robots say goodbye because your dead anyways and they all new they were going to die so what the point of the armor
Always annoyed the hell out of me as a kid that, after watching Sentinels repeatedly intercept the rockets, none of the rocket teams thought "Hey, these launchers are double barreled, I'll fire one, wait half a second, then fire the other, so even if a sentinel takes the first, the second has a chance to get through to the drill."
First thing I’m thinking of when helldivers 2 adds mechs
This was a lost battle even before it began. The army with which the machines attack Zion is 250,000 Sentinels strong. The humans may have destroyed say around 10,000 Sentinels during the battle and that's a generous estimate. And even if it were 50,000, the machines have another 200,000 Sentinels left in to destroy Zion.
It was always going to be a lost battle. The last time The Humans only last 72 hours before they were all killed
In the movie the machines sent another 250,000