Muscle Cramping and Fatigue on Carnivore? Try This!
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- In month 15 of the carnivore diet, I started to experience charlie horses in the middle of the night. I would wake up from sleep, and have to stand up out of bed to get this cramp out of my left leg. In addition to the muscle cramping, I was experiencing extreme fatigue. And this was more than just me being tired from working full-time and also being a twin mom to my wonderful 2 1/2-year-old toddlers. This was a deep level of exhaustion. Sleep did not help, taking a multivitamin did not help, and I could not figure out what was going on. In today's video, I talk about how I figured it out and what ended up helping.
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I started carnivore in early January and was doing really well for about 3 months then started feeling very tired and getting excruciating leg and/or thigh cramps at night. I had been taking LMNT electrolytes every day and occasional magnesium. Unfortunately I still got occasional bad cramps at night. I fell off the carnivore wagon a few weeks ago when I had friends to stay for the weekend and have struggled to get back on it. I must admit the leg cramp issue was also a factor. Your video is so timely as I decided if I’m to restart carnivore I need to make sure both my magnesium and potassium levels are good and ordered some new supplements a few days ago. I hadn’t realised that Vit D3 can also affect/deplete - I have been taking 4000iu (plus a K2 MK7 supplement) most days - so thanks for flagging this. I felt so much better on carnivore initially so, armed with my new supplements, I’m going to restart asap.
Welcome back! Im glad the video was helpful :)
Your experience completely mirrors my own; down to the falling off the wagon when we had company in town! Very timely video, indeed! Cranking up the magnesium and potassium...already feeling better. Excited that this will alleviate the restless legs/cramping and lethargy.
Eat a healthy well formulated diet low in red meat and animal products high in natural foods like healthy vegetables, small portions of nuts, seeds and some portions of fruits. Small portions of food is the real answer to achieving your goals. Walk every day with a goal of 8,000 to 10,000 steps. I allow myself some plain yogurt with a mixture of fruit for dessert before I stop eating for the day usually around 6-7:00 PM. The key takeaway is to eat small portions. It is working great for me and I don't feel deprived. No leg or muscle cramps eating this way. Good luck!
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Thank you thank you THANK YOU. week 7 totally carnivore and I got the exact same problems. I was like wonderful. Finally found a diet at age 56 and now this. I thought I honestly got a disease nightly both legs extreme Charlie horses. And they HURT. PLUS fatigue like a fugue state. Bless you. I am ordering those supplements ASAP.
Thank you so much for your knowledge!!! My vitamin d was low and they had me on a 50000iu a week. Now i know why i was getting cramps and fatigue! You are such a great help.
Holy moley, that is a lot of Vitamin D!
I also had leg cramps just a few months into carnivore and adding in electrolytes, vitamin d3, iron and vitamin c helped me immensely.
Wonderful!
Smoothed down to 20g keto but never fully converted to fat burning, or couldn't eat enough fat. In 4 weeks I thought I had MS, heart failure, chronic fatigue syndrome, cancer and statin myopathy all in one. Ate 2 potatoes and some popcorn -150g - and was reborn overnight. 70 years old, and probably slow to adapt, but won't go below 200g again. This pear tastes so good right now.
Yep! That is keto flu or carbohydrate withdrawal in action. The minute you eat some carbs, the symptoms improve :)
Thanks Jenny. Great advice. Mine are generally abdominal (muscle) cramps. I’m so hydrated it doesn’t make conventional sense. Either way, I now have more advice on how to rectify the only issue I’ve had on Carnivore. God Bless you!
Thank you, perfect timing as well. My D3 level was high,, 73, even my doctor told me to slow down on the D3 supplements, I was taking 5000 is daily, cramping has been really bad. I am going to follow what you suggested. This makes such good sense. I stopped my carnivore journey because of the cramping a couple of weeks ago. I restarted back two days ago and the cramping was ramping up again. THANK YOU for the information.
Youre very welcome! I hope this solution works for you :)
Jenny is a genius. I been having these Charlie horse cramps in my calf muscles but I knew I was taking potassium and magnesium supplements but I just went to my “potassium bottle and found it was a b1 bottle. Yes imma domeass and grabbed a real magnesium bottle and immediately took 2 caps and jumped into a hot bath of epsom salt to soak that magnesium in
Oh no! Im glad you figured it out :)
@@WFPBFORLIFE yea? Are you sure?
Thank you!! The first time I did carnivore the muscle cramps were always a big mystery to me, and I truly started to think it was a flaw in the diet... this makes so much sense. And this time around I've had no cramps cause I'm not supplementing vitamin d
Nice! Yea, I think the D supplementation is the key, within the context of a carnivore diet. You're not getting as much magnesium from your diet when you are strict carnivore, which is fine if youre not supplementing with really high levels of D. I dont think you would have the same effect if you got the D from the sun.
I appreciate this!! I have been carnivore 8 months and have been struggling with cramps off and on the whole time. The Facebook groups would tell me I shouldn’t have camps after adapting… 🙄 hello, I’m fully adapted! So I appreciate you helping me to feel normal. 😁
You're so welcome!
Yep, 9 months in and no matter what i have tried, added, removed etc around diet, coffee, supplements etc I am still rolling around on the floor 2, 3 times a night dealing with cramps. Then when doing nothing differnt I don't cramp and get lulled into thinking my issues resolved and then BANG!! 2am calf muscle trying to reach the sky.
@@greenygg3498 that sucks😭what’s worked for me is increasing electrolytes and hydration, taking a potassium in the day, and a magnesium at night
@JennyMitich hey thanks for quick reply! I have potassium chloride powder and citrate tablets. I might try and be a bit more strategic about the timings to see if that helps. Glad I found your channel, thanks :)
@@JennyMitich I’ve been doing the potassium you recommended and got some magnesium citrate (hadn’t tried that one yet… just glycinate and malate). But I’m still cramping. I over salt all my food and drink electrolytes. Like greenygg said, during this journey they’ll go away and come back out of no where. Always in waves. 😞
@JennyMitich As to why Inuit don't take D supplements. Inuit eat a lot of cold water fish which is high in D. Another commenter mentioned sardines... a good choice for D. Also our food sourcing often does not contain all the nutrients available in paleo times and we do not eat nose to tail(especially liver). A varied animal diet is a good idea. MANY factors can affect cramping and I would advise starting with more water and then perhaps try one additional supplement gradually at a time. Too much of one supplement can throw off balance in multiple others. Stress is a non dietary factor in many imbalances that is quite pervasive for us, so mind/body needs balance too. Supplements can be advantageous in the case of diseases/conditions developed over the years that need targeting. Like thyroid, where iodine can help accelerate healing and is lacking in food sources due to soil depletion which affects both plant and animal agriculture. Thyroid issues are often an issue with fatigue and iodine(often deleted in our food sources) can help the thyroid... but as is often the case with supplementing only one vitamin, it will need increases in selenium and salt as well. One commenter mentioned almonds which provide a LOT of selenium(which can easily become too much), helpful if supplementing with iodine. Low selenium can also have cramps and fatigue as symptoms. BUT be aware almonds also contain very high levels of oxalate... not a good idea. If you are not low in a particular vitamin/nutrient then supplementing one, just as insurance, can lead to a cascade of imbalances. Small, cautious steps. on balance, in my opinion, carnivore is a far simpler and more health advantageous way of eating than any other.
And my doctor always for years said my blood work showed extreme low vit d. So I took 60,000 every Monday morning only. Anything over that can shut down one’s kidneys. Again. Thank you
Over 60k shuts down kidneys? I know people who take 100k iu/day to battle a type of candida (fungal infection transmitted by the bloodstream) and they're fine. I think you can waste VitD by taking too much, as it just gets peed out and not used, but I don't believe you can truly OD on it.
Thank you🙏
I'm pretty strict about what constitutes a Carniovore.
I wasn't a Carniovore until I finally stopped drinking coffee.
Coffee is a plant and caffeine is a neurotoxin.
I have been drinking 8-10 cups of coffee a day for about 30 years.
It took a year to get rid of coffee, only then
the uric acid crystals were gone from my body.
Since then, I haven't needed an electrolyte supplement.
Coffee is also a problem in Carniovore due to strong physical and social dependence.
Coffee consumes our body and forms uric acid crystals, it has no positive health effects.
True, it's also a vaso constrictor. it restricts blood flow in your veins so of course to all your organs and can cause mini clots in the fine capillaries of the brain.....all for a buzz....sheeeesh! (Not to mention the fact thats its such an addictive drug, that alone should be a red flag to any clear thinker!)
My Dr has me on a mega dose of Vitamin D. I added Magnesium Glyconate but still had bad leg cramps in the early AM. Will add the potassium. Thanks for the video. Cheers!
Hello! It takes some time for the magnesium stores to build back up, I have been supplementing now for about 5 weeks and the cramping is 99% gone. I still have a tiny bit from time to time, hoping that will be resolve soon :)
I have stopped Carnivore and keeping my carbs to under 20 total allowing for a small salad a day and maybe a dill pickle. I feel so much better
@martinsvensson6884 You are wrong. I FEEL BETTER AND SLEEP BETTER. You do you and I will do me. I ate Dr Westmans protocol phase 1 and 2 for 5 years. It works and didn't have all of the issues that everyone keeps asking about on Carnivore. It is great for an elimination diet and to heal somethings but not everyone needs to stay on it long term.
I also stopped carnivore today after 2 yrs for carnivore. I had some organic blueberries, dark chocolate, and broccoli with Rib eye and feel much better today .
That's great! Im glad its working for you :)
@Panji2000 I am glad you feel better too. I plan to stick with 20g carbs for the next three months to get some extra weight off and then move up to 40g and let the last bit come off slowly hoping to see where my carb threshold is to maintain.
@@lindamccue4820 I will do the same. Will increase the carb around 20-30 grams a day . Thank you !
Thank you!! ❤I have been having leg/foot cramps also, almost every night! Ive been taking electrolytes but probably not enough, so,I will try these, hopefully I will also have good results, with less and maybe no cramps while sleeping!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
You are so welcome!
Take a look at Dr. Eric Berg's Electrolyte Powder and Thorne's Magnesium Briglycerate, together they helped eliminate by leg cramps.
@@lpg12338 thank you! I will.😊
Omgosh talk about timing! I've been carnivore 6 months and I love it. However my leg cramps have been acting up and I woke up last night with a horrible Charlie horse in my leg. I had no idea about the D3 and magnesium though. I take magnesium on and off but I'll definitely start being more consistent and add the potassium as well and see if that helps. Thank so much for the video!
Youre very welcome! Im glad it was helpful :)
Check out Dr. Eric Berg’s electrolyte powder, it has a good amount of potassium. Plus I like to mix in Thorne’s Magnesium Bisglycinate.
Thank youuuuu I have only been taking the magnesium glycinate but now I will take the potassium
Youre very welcome, glad it was helpful :)
I put epson salt with magnesium and well doc said mine was a little high so she made me stop. But i take 50k every week of Vit. D i stay around 60/70 and only had that one time with cramping. But everyone is differant. I love 40 pounds in 3 months. So im happy at my wieght loss.
Thank you for sharing😊! Started TODAY!!!
Welcome!
I also started getting major cramps at night 1.5 yrs into carnivire
.ty for doing the research I've been wanting to look into which supplements to take
Youre very welcome!
I have been waking up with leg cramps the past few nights. I drink 2 re-lutes or LMNTs per day and take 2 magnesium Glycinates every evening but I also have been taking Vitamin D3 with K2 and so glad I watched your video. I think I’m going to quit the d3/k2 for a bit because that has to be what it is since I’m already supplementing with the magnesium and the electrolytes on the relyte and LMNT should have plenty of potassium. Wish me luck because you are right. No fun!! They are horrible. Thank you so much for the information.
Youre very welcome! Make sure you are drinking enough water in general, that can be a common cause of muscle cramping too :)
I follow Stephanieketo and she talks alot about the carnivore diet she's mainly keto but she says carnivore can be dangerous, People always use the Redmond salt on their meat a lot or salt in general and use too much sodium and that creates an imbalance of potassium and then on that same side of the coin when you create an imbalance of potassium you also create an imbalance of magnesium, From what I understand potassium is a more important especially on the carnivore diet, it's more important than sodium, The key is to basically get the electrolytes in balance potassium #1 then magnesium then sodium
Hello! I think that could be possible.
I had no idea!! Thank you!!
Youre very welcome :)
So very helpful, thanks so much.❤
Youre very welcome :)
So helpful! Perfect timing! Calf cramps out of the blue with D3 10,000 - I do take mag threonate but not potassium. Thanks again!
Hello! I'm glad it was helpful :)
coffee is known to dehydrate. reduce coffee. salt the meat and eggs. drink lots of water. then you won't need any additional electrolytes
What salt would you suggest?
@@asmamushtaq9901 I use black salt
Almost 10 months carnivore here, at about the 6 month point for me i was getting foot and leg cramps when
i went to bed, spent couple weeks trying to figure it out. Learned that i was using to much salt for
both my meals, so i cut out the salt for one meal, and increased my water and the cramps
went away, haven't had them since!
Only thing im dealing with now and this actually just started 2 weeks ago when it started
getting warm/hot outside, btw i also live in Chicago but southwest suburbs ;) i been lethargic,
my hydration has been the same.
I work a night shift (8pm-4am) so i eat when i get home in the morning, and then eat a little before
i go to work, this lethargy i know was low and no salt for my 2nd meal, and im discovering im not eating
enough, nor getting enough fat. Never did carnivore in the summer so its a new thing for me,
whats interesting is im only lethargic when im at work, and i still have my physical strength but
when im moving around as its manual labor (work in a warehouse) i just have no energy regardless
of my electrolytes and water intake.
So something im trying to sort out, i also think my vit D is low as well, i do take vitD with K2, lastly
i think what i need to start doing is go back outside and start running again in the forest
preserve trail to get some sun.
Thank you for sharing! Sometimes it takes a bit of tweaking and experimentation to figure out what works best for you.
Thank you so much! I so needed this information!
You are so welcome!
Guess what else depletes your magnesium? Menopause!! I never had a charlie horse until that started, and I had no idea why, until i googled it. I take the magnesium Glycinates every night and we also have a roll on that i can roll on my lower back and my calves for extra help. I find that magnesium also helps decrease any anxiety feelings. If I do feel a charlie horse starting, i quickly get up and just stand on that leg, with the other one raised, so that all of my weight goes to that troubled leg, and it clears up quite quickly. It took my a while to learn that trick too.
Thank you, I also use lmnt and eat good meat with leg cramps and these puppies are wicked. Going to keep a food log, and if nothing comes of that, will add these supplements❤
Magnesium, potassium and zinc compound in half litre of water to drink during the day. I take this a couple of times a week, but, I live in a sunny climate with helps.
That does help, I need to get to a sunny place in the winter
Yea. It’s called potassium deficiency. Buy potassium chloride. Get it in ya
Take mg first for a week then start adding potassium in the AM in your coffee or add to your first meal then take your Mg with your evening meal. Do not take together as potasium can become prioritized and kick mg into the urine they use the same pathway. Search mineral wheel for more info. Lastly i found i had methylation issues and started taking methylfolate which is the bio avail version of B9. Address my issues of cramping and severe anxiety.
Smart! Thanks for the tips :) I also do methylated vitamins
I find it strange that this diet is sooooo good for you, yet you have to supplement with all these vitamins and minerals. Obviously something is lacking in the diet. I honestly think the diet may be for some that have health issues but I do not think it is overall healthy. The "carnivore experts" can tell you to get rid of fruits and veggies but the amount of water in plants is ridiculous and is probably why people that eat veggies in a balanced diet don't experience the kind of side effects I have been finding on the carnivore diet. I have experienced fatigue, loss of sleep and major dehydration from being on the carnivore diet. I will start introducing fruits back into my diet for hydration. It amazes me how people don't really know anything, even doctors, when it comes to diet. Everything finds balance. From my experience on carnivore and from research, dehydration is a major side effect of the carnivore diet. I have never had to be aware of my electrolytes before carnivore and I work outside in the hot sun! I would just drink plenty of water and I was fine. Now on carnivore, I dehydrate in hours and then it takes half a day to rehydrate. Terrible.
Yes, this was helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Maybe an argument for not supplementing anything at all.
Maybe!
Hello beautiful can you tell me what D3 you use and how much daily? Definitely enjoy watching and learning from you. Thank you 😊
Hello! Thank you so much! I think I linked it in this video, but I use Naturewise, I was taking 10000 ius per day, but now I do 5000 ius per day, plus K2, plus magnesium.
Definitely…can relate! Morning …potassium- evening…magnesium! It worked for me! Thanks, Jenny. Cheers & Smiles! 🥳👏🏻
Thank you :)
I failed on Keto and Carnivore and Plant Based. Now I eat everything but I make sure to control my portions. For instance I wake up and have 2 cups of coffee and a little cream during the morning. I go out and walk around 7,000 steps. Before noon I have oatmeal with cinnamon, ground flax, pecans, walnuts, pumpkin seeds and some blueberries and a little almond milk. That holds me over till 3:00 pm. I then have a small saled of arugula with Olive oil and a portion of cottage cheese. Dinner is Broiled Salmon, small sweet potato and asparagus. I drink plenty of water. Kiwi for snack. I feel great. Am losing 1 to 1 1/2 lbs per week. And I really enjoy eating everything with strict portion control. Its working for me. I just couldn't live eating all meat, chicken, and lots of fat and missing out on all the wonderful varieties of bread, fruits and vegetables. The secret to my success is portion control. No Charley horses, weakness, dizziness upon standing, or any of the other crazy symptoms I experienced on keto/carnivore. I feel totally alive now and credit portion control for giving me my life back.Friday nights I have 2 pieces of pizza and a cold beer. Life is Good! Cheers everyone!
Thats great! Im glad you found what works for you :)
I am with you. I don't find all of these symptoms to be very healthy. Whole foods and variety will be my focus foe the future
Am heading back to that after severe gout and leg cramps and not able to eat enough.
Congratulations, you've just discovered that the only thing that's driving fat loss is energy balance. Energy absorbed vs energy used by your body. There's no magic to any diet, you can eat whatever you want , and if you are able to use more energy than you absorb from your foods, you are going to lose fat. Always. Until you die.
That is beautiful that you are able to eat some if everything and in an intuitive way - the dream!
I wish I could eat carbs in moderation, but I have found that I am definitely addicted to the sugars… once I have any - I end up getting of control and in no time sick from it. For me zero carbs is the only way I feel consistently healthy. I have to treat it like alcohol addiction. You are very blessed to be able to dabble 💕
Peeps....get early morning sun, despite the sun's applination....you're still getting A/B sunlight, as light constantly reflects and refracts off the clouds, etc.
Get 10 mins of sun...walk around your lawn to ground yourselves....the f. End.
Sounds like me. Cramps. Tired. I do 5000 d3 and k12 and mag citrate maybe need to up the mag. And maybe like you take it late.
I agree 100% Jenny! I’ve been supplementing with 300mg magnesium glycinate daily to deal with muscle cramping I experienced on carnivore while using 10000 I U vitamin D3 and 100 mcg K2. No more cramps! Kudos to you Jenny!
Hello! Thank you for sharing your experience!
i experienced severe muscle recovery problems (1 week sore after 2 sets of pushups) after doing keto for a few months. couldnt do any training or sport anymore because of fatigue and lactic burning in the muscle. now i introduced carbs (potatoe and fruit) back in my diet. getting a bit better but still not normals. any recommandations?
That is a great question. I know for me, I didn't have full power at the gym until about a year into carnivore. But I also had very young twins, so maybe part of that was pure exhaustion LOL. I think those effects would fade pretty quickly after you introduced the carbs though, so there might be something else at play. I would say try meat and fruit diet, that may help.
I’m right where you are talking about at month 5. Cramping every night..
Try increasing your hydration in general, that can help. Then I would focus on electrolytes, and then perhaps supplementation.
Your electrolyte brand has stevia. Stevia is a diuretic and so you lose your electrolytes along with the fluid. There are many issues with ALL forms of stevia and in any amounts. A word to the wise.
The unflavored does not. All the flavored ones do have stevia.
@@kathleensaeva2649 my comment was to the channel. The product she held up is flavored. Most people will NOT drink unflavored. But my point is that since she has pinned high Vit D intake for not absorbing magnesium, there are other issues in what she is doing that could account for her low magnesium. If she was or is taking this brand of electrolytes, her effort to get sufficient magnesium could be thwarted or reversed by stevia. Additionally there is no balance in the unflavored (same as flavored) option: 1k mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, 60 mg magnesium. 1. How does this help the sodium/potassium pump which is a 1 to 2 ratio? 2. How is a strict carnivore going to correct the RDA from too little magnesium? The recommended two packets equals close to RDA sodium and still only 120 mg of magnesium, 2/3 deficient. Suggesting LMNT to resolve or even augment the magnesium issue is a dead end. It’s basically an expensive salt product. The company advertises paleo and keto by the way but Redmond’s and dietary potassium and magnesium is a workable option for all diets while LMNT is not. Potassium, I predict, will be the next in line for nutrient concerns. If the cell pump isn’t optimal, it doesn’t matter the diet, waste sits in an acidic state, and nothing can get repaired and regenerated. This is all readily available information. Too many seek answers from influencers which all too often is insufficient and thus wrong.
Get potassium and magnesium in your diet folks. Be sure it balances with sodium intake and water, too much water is not going to be beneficial. Determine the proper ratio. And as a caveat, tap water is dead water. Water in plastic leaches plastic particles. Drinking water must be sourced from a healthy aquifer and in glass. Once upon a time, water had plenty of potassium, magnesium, sodium by the way. The levels are much lower, so get your electrolytes additionally.
You’re welcome. 😉
@@ToddDouglasFox I realize your comment was to the channel. At 1:58 the LMNT packet she shows is the raw unflavored. I didn't know if you knew that one doesn't have stevia. Personally, my gut can't handle stevia and the raw unflavored LMNT made me tired. It's just not a product that works for me. I do hear you about the other things you mentioned though.
@@kathleensaeva2649 It looked to me like one of the flavors (there are many) but I’ll take your word for it that it is the one out of all of them that doesn’t have stevia. Hopefully she’s not getting any stevia. It’s good that you can’t do stevia as it affects memory as well as many other cognitive processes. We have taken hundreds of people off stevia who thought they were into dementia but after 3-6 months off stevia, their memory and overall cognition was normal again.
@@kathleensaeva2649I did go back to read the momentary flash at 1:58 and saw “unflavored” on the packet when I blew it up. Good eyes you have, you must be younger than me. 👍
Day43, I'm getting some cramps in my arms and maybe calves. I'll have to try this.
Thanks Jenny, I have been taking the Mag but might up it as the night cramps were bad but settled down now getting niggly again. What's weird is they used to be the calf and now they seem to run up the front ... go figure.
Hmm, that is weird! I dont know why that would happen
Look up piriformus (sp?) muscle. It is possible some of your leg cramps irritated the nerves that go to this muscle, (or another muscle). I am not a doctor, but have had referred pain due to similar problems. I suppose it could also be the same type of thing and be related to the sciatica nerve, but, again I am not a doctor and I am not sure what all nerves/muscles are connected and which ones might cause pain where. At leasted it is a place to start your research. Might want to get some blood tests done as well and while you are there, you can show your doctor what is going on where... Good luck!
@@tbacon2784 great tip!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
2 mag & 1 pot....that means nothing to anyone.... how much mg & k did you need? 100mg, 1000mg?
Typically a magnesium supplement is 400mg and the potassium is 595mg
@@JennyMitichto pump the cells, the body requires 4,700 mg of potassium and about 1/2 that in proper sodium.
I’ve been waking up and getting Charlie horses when I to my wake up stretch I hope this helps
It worked I actually stopped taking them for like a month because I forgot about it and still no more Charlie horses
i’ve had the tired feeling
I’ve been doing carnivore for 6 months and while I haven’t had cramping, I have had a lot of fatigue even though I’m sleeping well at night. I’m currently doing 10,000ius of Vit D and 350 mg of Magnesium Glycinate but I’m going to increase my Magnesium and add the Potassium.
Smart! You could also reduce the D, I am no longer taking any because Im getting it from the sun now
Promise Jenny, magnesium deficiency. Start with 400 mgms mag oxide. If cramps persist, another 400 12 hours apart. Please try to only eat CLEAN meat, not corn fed junk. You look fantastic. I beat you though…….. Triplet sons now 47! Yikes!! Stay blessed
Thank you :)
it's all about electrolytes, i had to force myself to increase the salt i use on my food because i was so used to reduced sodium because of all the fear mongering about salt. now i drink an electrolyte mix twice per day and make sure my food is properly salted to taste and limit my coffee intake which can also dehydrate and give some muscle cramps especially if you're doing OMAD and you go for a bite of food after a 16+ hour fast and your jaw cramps up lol
Make an enzyme recipe for us please. I recommend Magnesium Tartrate, Potassium Chloride, and Sodium Chloride: easily found. No sweetener. Maybe cocoa for a "is this mixed" agent.
are you sure these ingredients would make an enzyme? seems like a decent electrolyte to me, though.
Check your veins. I had to get my veins fixed. I was doing all of what you mentioned but I am older than you. Had invisible varicose veins
Look into Butcher’s Broom and Horse Chestnut extracts.
Can you come up with a list of common supplements or foods /drinks that can sap magnesium? I don't supp with D3 or K , but have the extreme fatigue and cramps in my calves and toes randomly , mostly at night. I do drink one caffeine coffee a day. Otherwise lionish carnivore. Thanks for your time
Hello! So far, I just found the D3. But if I find more drains on magnesium I will be sure to let everyone know :)
@@JennyMitich I have the same question. I don't take supplements except for an electrolyte mix. I had wondered what would tap my magnesium resources to cause the cramps and dry mouth/eyes. From what Prof. Bart Kay and other Carni Drs. say about being in ketosis, if you don't cycle out often, it will tax your electrolyte stores from your kidneys. Have you heard of this? Sounds like important information!
@@katiwisdom6038 interesting! Yes, that is important info for sure!
Dr Sara Pugh mentioned that magnesium malate is better for muscles - might be worth considering if nothing is working (I’ll be trying it…)
Interesting! I will have to check that out, thanks for the tip!
I am only day 6 for a carnivore diet but the last three days my legs are in so much pain i can barely walk I just don't know if i can carry on with this diet. Which is a real same i suffer from depression and really wanted this to work for me already on day 4 i had great motivation than i had in a long time. Did anybody else feel this. Anytips on how to move forward.
Hello! Drink more water for sure, and be sure to keep up with your electrolytes becaue that can help
Sardines cleared up leg cramps for me. I have at least one serving per day.
Great tip! Yea, there are lots of vitamins and minerals in fish
You needed Magnesium and more water.
My husband and I have been on carnivore for a week and we both are low energy. Also my bowel movements are almost nothing lol, just a very small amount.
Totally normal! Fatigue was my first and most annoying keto flu symptom.
Bowel movements are smaller because you're absorbing more of the nutrients.
Hey Jenny, how long did it take to fix the problem once you started taking them?
Hello! It took about 3 weeks to fully go away. It has come back a couple times since, but it was when I hadnt drank enough water. I made sure to hydrate better the next day and it was good again :)
I might need to start back with the magnesium. Been sluggish during my walks and workout and dont know why.
Hello! Its worth a shot. You could also increase electrolytes in general, make sure youre getting enough protein and fat
good to know thanks 🙏
Youre very welcome :)
Hi @jennymitich I have been on carnivore for 2 months. The first two weeks were wonderful. Full of energy. All was well. Then, all of a sudden, my legs began to feel like lead. It has not stopped since. I do feel moderately tired, but my legs are unbelievably heavy. I mean, literally like LEAD. I'm 5'9", 124 lb. I can only do about 1200 to 1500 calories per day and then I'm stuffed. I take two magnesium glycinate pills each night. I walk in the sun at least 4,000 steps each day. I generally drink about 50 to 60 oz of water per day, including one packet of plain LMNT supplement. I am very concerned about my heavy legs. Have you ever heard of this? Thank you!
Hello! That is strange, I can't say that I have heard that one before. I would up the electrolytes and water for sure. And I would also up the fat to up the calories. 1200-1500 is not enough food. Also, fat is the fuel so you need to make sure you are eating enough of it. You could also try incorporating some vegetables, just to see if that improves your symptoms.
@@JennyMitich Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! I hope I find someone that has experienced this. It's kind of scary. Your advice is good, and I certainly appreciate it. I'm afraid to add in vegetables because I don't want the digestive issues to come back. But I will do my best to eat a little more and implement the other things you said. Thank you, again! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@SoGrateful4You you’re very welcome! The reason I suggest some carbs is I’m curious if it’s still some keto flu/sugar withdrawal. If it is, some carbs would clear it up quickly. Otherwise, if you’re eating really lean meats, upping the fat should help. You need the fat 👍🏻
@@JennyMitich I see. Thank you. I'm wondering if you can still have keto flu even if you were on low-to-no sugar and low-to-no highly processed foods for years before starting carnivore?🤔 The only sugars I really consumed came through a few fruits and vegetables. My main fruits were blue berries and strawberries. Veggies were cucumbers, celery, broccoli... Thanks again for your thoughts and ideas. I will try to add more fat and calories. I definitely need to get to the bottom of this. It's such a weird and troubling feeling...
@@SoGrateful4You the only other thing I could think of is if you were eating a lot of high oxalate fruits and vegetables, you may be detoxing from that. You could read Toxic Superfoods from Sally Norton, that could be helpful. Otherwise, perhaps it has nothing to do with the diet at all, and it could be some other root cause issue that is coming to the surface now that you’ve cleared out everything except for the meat and animal products.
I don't have keg cramps typically, but I do get abdominal muscle cramps when I don't take my LMNT. I struggle with good sleep and also take a mag complex that has glyycinate, threonate, and one more I can't think of. I do take vitamin d but it's only a couple times a week. Thoughts on if I might benefit from some added potassium?
Hello! Maybe! That could help, its worth a shot
Ive been carnivore for 576 days. Im using exactly the same Vit K, D and Im deeply exhausted and muscle cramps are unbearable. I've done the K amd Mg and no help. I have to keep going and see if a longer term more than 4 months may help. Thanks.
Hello! Maybe stop the Vitamin D and just do the Magnesium and Potassium. Also, it could be something else entirely. What's your average protein intake for the day?
Hi Jenny, thanks for the video! I take Magnesium Glycinate 200mg (Nature Made), D3 5000IU (also Nature Made) and 1-2 packets of LMNT per day and I still get Charlie horses and foot and calf cramps at night at least a few times per week. 100% carnivore. Should I also take a potassium supplement? Or maybe try the brands you are using? Thanks!
Great questions. Daily magnesium needs are 400mg, so maybe increase that. Perhaps potassium? You could also just stop supplementing the D for awhile and see if that helps. Also, what time are you taking your supplements? Are you taking them together?
@@JennyMitich Hi Jenny, thanks for the reply. I take them all together around supper time each night.
@@KimT-kr8metry taking the D3 and the magnesium at different times, that can help😀I do D3 in the am and magnesium at night
@@JennyMitich Thanks very much Jenny! I’ll give it a try.
Just had my cheat day today. Enjoyed but didn't overdo it.
Nice!
Which magnesium should you take daily? I do not have cramps. I do take D3 50,000 weekly. I take it with vit.c . I have been on carnivore for 2 months. Any vitamins do you suggest on the daily? Should I get the lmnt?
Hello! I listed out the ones I talk about in this video in the description :)
Do you take one of each kind of Magnesium or just one kind?
I stick to one kind at a time
Hi! I’ve been eating 95% carnivore for a year now; yay me! 🥳 I’ve had the muscle cramps mildly to badly most of that time. I also have been taking 10,000 IUs of D3 + K2 for most of that time, except in warm weather when I’m outside a lot. I’m 65, and live at the same latitude as Chicago. So, winter, and not much sunlight a lot of the year. I also have been supplementing with Mg + K. My symptoms got milder when I decided to drink less water. I believe I was washing out my electrolytes. QUESTION: I believe I/we get waaay more than 10K IUs of D3 when we’re outside with skin exposed to sunlight this time of year (I have a good tan going on my hands already!), so does this increase-the-Mg/K-minerals idea apply to the sunlight exposure way of manufacturing my own D3, too? 🤔 I’ve been doing a lot of yardwork the last couple weeks. Another benefit of carnivory for me: my stamina now is awesome! And I don’t get sunburnt! 🥳
Hello! That is a great question. Sunlight is the most efficient way to make vitamin D, when we supplement we have to take a lot because only a portion of it is being absorbed. I dont think sunlight derived vitamin D has the same draining effect on our magnesium because it is being manufactured by our bodies. For me, I dont really use supplemental vitamin D in the summer because I dont need it, I am out in the sun everyday :)
I ordered all 3 but confused by the 2 mags and 1 potassium at night. Can you elaborate on which mags you took and when. I too supplement with vitd3/k2 and have been so lethargic (which feels like it defeats the point)
Hello! You can take one or the other for the magnesiums, those are just both highly absorbable forms of magnesium. I took 2 magnesium citrates at night and 1 potassium in the morning for a couple days. Then I did 1 mag at night and 1 potassium in the morning. Now that my charlie horses and fatigue have gone away Im taking a lower dose of mag to go to sleep and I take the potassium every other day in the morning.
Maybe thats why when I ate a bit of liver, my cramps stopped.
Maybe!
So do you mean high D3 intake deplete magnesium? I've been taking D3 supplements so just curious.
Hello! Yes, high D3 intake can deplete magnesium. I was doing 10000 IUs, which is really high. Pair that with carnivore, where you aren't getting a large amount of magnesium, and that can drain your magnesium stores. Its not a problem if you are getting D from the sun, only with high levels of supplementation :)
For me, I take Dr. Eric Berg's Electrolyte Powder and mix it with Thorne's Magnesium Bisglycinate, works every time.
Nice! Great tip, thank you!
I’m getting a lot of spasm in my left foot. At times I’m not able to straighten my toes out. It’s only if I’m sitting with my feet up on the couch. Lol
Its so painful and weird! I hate cramps :(
I have a hand full of almonds every day . And it stopped the cramps
Nice!
Interesting, thanks for sharing. 🤔👍
i thought carnivore or all meat diet give you all the nutrients your body needs???then why need to supplements?
Hello! Great question. Like I said in the video, I supplement with D in the winter because I want to keep my levels high. Because of the D supplementation, my magnesium stores became depleted, which in turn depleted my potassium. Now that it is spring, I have stopped D supplementation and have been able to lower the amount of potassium and magnesium as well. Once its summer, I doubt I will need those either.
@@JennyMitich is there any supplementation given to the Inuits where they live mostly on Ice,mostly winter?where fish was the only food they ate,and they're great..hmmm,something smells fishy...
@@ronescalona I probably don’t need to take the vitamin D supplementation, but that’s a personal choice. Also, I don’t think that taking supplements is a bad thing. This video is meant to be educational.
@@JennyMitich As to why Inuit don't take D supplements. Inuit eat a lot of cold water fish which is high in D. Another commenter mentioned sardines... a good choice for D. Also our food sourcing often does not contain all the nutrients available in paleo times and we do not eat nose to tail(especially liver). A varied animal diet is a good idea. MANY factors can affect cramping and I would advise starting with more water and then perhaps try one additional supplement gradually at a time. Too much of one supplement can throw off balance in multiple others. Stress is a non dietary factor in many imbalances that is quite pervasive for us, so mind/body needs balance too. Supplements can be advantageous in the case of diseases/conditions developed over the years that need targeting. Like thyroid, where iodine can help accelerate healing and is lacking in food sources due to soil depletion which affects both plant and animal agriculture. Thyroid issues are often an issue with fatigue and iodine(often deleted in our food sources) can help the thyroid... but as is often the case with supplementing only one vitamin, it will need increases in selenium and salt as well. One commenter mentioned almonds which provide a LOT of selenium(which can easily become too much), helpful if supplementing with iodine. Low selenium can also have cramps and fatigue as symptoms. BUT be aware almonds also contain very high levels of oxalate... not a good idea. If you are not low in a particular vitamin/nutrient then supplementing one, just as insurance, can lead to a cascade of imbalances. Small, cautious steps. on balance, in my opinion, carnivore is a far simpler and more health advantageous way of eating than any other.
Your body depletes electrolytes when you aren’t eating carbs. Carbs make you retain water which is where the minerals are. You can get a lot from meat only but most need a little more because there’s only so much you can eat. We don’t need to eat vitamins. We get it all in our diet. Minerals are different.
well .. if you have these issues and must supplement, maybe its not a proper human diet after all...
Hello! The cramping has nothing to do with the diet. It has to due with the vitamin D supplementation.
Pack of mustard on your nightstand. Stops charlie horse instantly
That actually does work! My grandma shared that tip with me years ago :)
How do you take it? Do you swallow it or rub it on the Charlie horse area that bothers you?
@@Kayer22 swallow it
@Kayer22 its very convenient to rip open packet and squeeze into mouth. But approx tablespoon does the trick Every time. So far
@JennyMitich been on carnivore for 9 months so far, wish id of done it sooner.
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How come you didn’t just add some organ meat?
Hello! I cant stand the taste of liver. But I have recently started taken beef organ supplements, and those are great
So why weren't you taking more electrolytes?
Hello! I didnt want to do 4-5 packets of electrolytes, way too much salt for my tastes. Supplementing worked better for me.
Foot cramp gang 🎉 🙋
Right? LOL
If you’re having muscle cramping try eating more beans, greens, and grains. Loads of potassium and magnesium and manganese and B vitamins in them. The problem with super restrictive diets like Carnivore is that you’re getting an over abundance of certain nutrients (which can become a problem over time- I’m looking at you heme-iron 👀), and a deficiency in other nutrients (Vitamin C, potassium, Vitamin K, magnesium, manganese, folate, etc). By all means, meat can certainly play a role in a healthy, balanced diet. But only meat? You’re asking for some long term trouble and pain. All the best to you. 💕
Hello! I discuss in this video that my high level of vitamin D supplementation is what caused the drain on my magnesium stores. It had nothing to do with my diet.
Jeez I've experienced that very same thing and I take the same amount of D3. Looks like I need to look into some supplements. Thanks.
Youre very welcome :)
That's why you don't take Vit d 3 long term! Only boost! Cheers
True!
I’ve had people call me a troll for honestly saying how I feel on carnivore…I feel awful, but it has been only two months. Have others experienced such weakness and fatigue two months in or more?m
For sure! Try increasing your electrolytes, that can be helpful. How much protein are you eating?
@@JennyMitich Honestly I have such little appetite all I ate today was three slices of bacon and two egg yokes. At 4 pm I had about 6 Slices of corned beef…the thought of eating more makes me nauseous.
Most days I’ll have short ribs, or chuck roast. Maybe a couple of hamburgers also.
@@M.Sforza do you like fish at all? Lots of great vitamins and minerals in seafood. Also though, have you considered adding back in some vegetables or fruit? Carnivore isn’t for everyone, perhaps keto or just whole food low carb would be better for you. Why are you doing carnivore specifically?
@@JennyMitich I bought a small watermelon yesterday and raw honey. If this fatigue persists I will do a ketovore instead. I have to be honest and say, weight loss is a major goal but so is feeling better with chronic joint pain. I want to lose 35-40 lbs, and not an ounce has come off.
My cramping stopped when I added boron supplement
Great tip!
Cotton Jennie?
Huh?
@@JennyMitich
Thanks, just the same!..😊
All the carnivore doctors recommend iodine daily.
That is true, some of them do. I used iodine early on but no longer.
Not true, Dr. Baker doesn’t.
Thyroid values should always be tested, including antibodies. Iodine when not needed is dangerous.
@@ToddDouglasFox that is also true
@@ToddDouglasFox Isn't it water soluble? Excesses goes out? Or no?
The truth is pretty much everybody in western civilization is already going to be low on potassium and most on magnesium. Even those who eat the vegetables. Vegetable forms aren’t very bioavailable so you can eat a ton of vegetables and still come up short because your body can’t absorb them. Supplementing, whether it be in the form of electrolytes or mineral supplement is almost necessary, because our foods are grown in barren soil with chemical fertilizers and don’t have these minerals in them and even on a carnivore diet we were traditionally be getting minerals from water sources. If you’re drinking from a natural spring or a river that water probably has minerals in it also feedlot beef is fed garbage grain and is going to have a lot less of nutrients and vitamins in general than grass, fed beef and magnesium and potassium and DN K2, these all sort of work together with other vitamins, and when one is down, others aren’t functioning or being used as well, another thing would be excessive drinking of fluids flushes it out of our system especially if you’re drinking diet soda or something that taste good and makes you drink more or just pushing the water as we drink minerals are flushed out of our system so when we drink too much water that isn’t mineralized then we’re depleting those minerals already.
10k on the vitamin D on a regular basis is a bit much 5000 is way more than anybody needs 10,000 would be to fix a problem or to get back where you need if you have a severe deficiency and make sure you’re taking it with K2 and the magnesium and potassium, and of course the sodium and chloride And of course that you’re getting fat in your system which with carnivore usually isn’t a problem, but a lot of people seem to be on low-fat diets and try to eliminate fat to reduce cholesterol or whatever and the fat or cholesterol is what our bodies use for our hormones, and carrying and absorption of vitamins, and transporting them to the cells to use them. there’s this big huge combination of all of our nutrients and minerals that work together and a lot of them kind of pivot and work off of others so one deficiency can lead to multiple problems.
I’m glad you’ve got it figured out, I had the same thing when I started very strict keto diet, I started getting twitching and muscle cramps from magnesium deficiency even though I was pounding down green vegetables and leafy grains, but the reality is, we can’t really eat enough of that stuff to get Enough of these minerals and vitamins out of it they’re just not bioavailable it’s all locked up in the fiber and just passes through us. Strangely every problem I had on a strict clean keto diet was resolved by eating more meat and making sure I was getting sufficient minerals. Magnesium like you said citrate or glycinate Along with potassium and of course plenty of salt and if we’re eating enough red meat, especially a grass fed beef with the fat and we should be good in just a regular multivitamin will give us most of everything else we need. But sunlight is critical and a supplement in the winter or for inside all day is a good thing, but unless you have problems from a severe deficiency 10k is a bit over the top. It’s a good video to put out there because lots and lots of people have these problems and not just on a carnivore or keto type diet, western civilization in the way we grow our food, even if you’re a vegan, even if you’re eating tons of vegetable sources they’re not there anymore. The soil been depleted they grow two or three crops per year they never take years off. They never replenish the soil. They use chemical fertilizers, and or fruits and vegetables even Void of nutrients and are basically starch and sugar and fiber, and are in many cases, completely useless in all cases are fairly deficient in general, and the idea that we can get a healthy diet without eating meat is from a scientific and clinical standpoint ridiculous yet that’s what people keep telling us to do so a lot of people have these problems. Plenty of red meat and healthy wildcat fish and drinking from streams and springs and working outside. We wouldn’t have these problems but it’s a different world so we need to adapt. The potassium is also critical, we need a ton of potassium and we just don’t get it anymore. It’s just not in our food at the levels. It should be at almost everyone on the planet is going to be deficient in potassium and your doctors will tell you to eat bananas but you gotta eat like 65 bananas a day to get enough potassium, and that amount of sugar will destroy your body and of course potatoes from magnesium, there’s not much magnesium in the potatoes anymore because they’re grown in baron, used up soil and a ton of sugar and unless you’re eating them raw, they’re useless, water was part of our natural diet and water used to be unprocessed and full of minerals But we don’t get that anymore. All of our water is processed and everything stripped out of it while they’re removing the pollutants under course we have this bottled water fad where people are drinking heavily filtered water, which is great to get rid of pollutants, but it also strips out of the minerals makes it very soft and the more we drink the more it strips our bodies of those minerals so mineralizing our water and plenty of salt and healthy salt with other minerals. Other than just sodium and chloride is essential. The processing of our food is destroying our food and making people sick. Even people go carnivore because I have problems with vegetables, myself included. It depends on the vegetables so I can find actual vegetables grown in the proper soil without the chemicals at it I can usually tolerate them, and they have exponentially more nutrients, but most of what we buy at the store even the health food stores is void of these nutrients and our food suppliers being destroyed by the food industry. people should shop local find someone who’s got cows and chickens out there eating grass like they should be chickens eating bugs, running around in the woods and in the fields and pastures and Cal is eating grass and being moved so they’re not parasite problems don’t need an antibiotic and steroids and wild caught seafood and because of mercury you want small variety that sardines the chunk light tuna the young salmon, but we should try to source everything locally find out how it’s grown because the government regulations mean nothing they can put whatever they want in the bottles and pretend it something else, it’s almost impossible to get decent olive oil anymore vegetables are garbage fruit is garbage a lot of the cheap meat is garbage and this is why disease affects 30 to 50% of the population instead of just under one percent like it normally did throughout history and mineral supplementation is critical and not just because people are on carnivore or keto diet, I was eating six or 7 cups a day of leafy greens with Christophers vegetables, and I was getting muscle twitches and cramps because I could not get enough magnesium and potassium and I took a supplement and it went away literally literally and an hour. Heart problems with arrhythmia, and your pulse rate are highly affected by potassium, but doctors just keep giving you meds. I had a pretty accelerated heart rate it was always in the mid 80s and above and even after I started eating correctly and got my blood pressure down to perfect in eliminating my heart disease, I still had a very high pulse all the time even at rest, and, finally one day in my research came up with potassium has already taken magnesium and everything else and I went to Walmart and got some cheap potassium and bingo. My heart rate dropped 10 points that night and no doctor ever told me this. Anyway, I’m glad you made your video Cuz. I study and follow thousands of people who do this and it’s a very common problem and the magnesium and potassium specifically are very common problem amongst almost everybody, I bet if you tested everybody in western civilization about 99.9% of them would be severely deficient in potassium and most of them fairly deficient in magnesium.
I completely agree with you on this entire comment! Thank you for sharing your insight :)
@@WFPBFORLIFE ah, the troll returns! I missed you ❤️
@@WFPBFORLIFE I am happy that you found a lifestyle that works for you. If you are over 50 yo, it may be advisable to have a C.A.C., C.I.M.T. and an A.B.I. performed. Many people "feel" healthy, but it is a good piece of mind to have the numbers in your hand. Reducing inflammation is the key, how you do it, is up to you. 👍
@@WFPBFORLIFE Outstanding, but if you are over 50 yo, please take a look at these 3 test. A very good friend of mine was the picture of health, all his numbers looked great, now he is getting bypass surgery… ☹️ Either way, enjoy your weekend. 👍
@@WFPBFORLIFE Great, here is to many more healthy years. 👍
Today might be the day I give up on this carnivore way of eating. My fatigue is out of control, and I’m so weak. Sick of hearing I must be a troll from some crazy cult like dopes on these sites, I’m honestly concerned because I feel so horrible. Can someone tell me if they too have experienced this early on I’m two months in and don’t know what the hell to,do at this point.
Did you try the fruit and veggie yet? If so, did it make you feel better?
@@JennyMitich yes, I did, and I feel a little better. No palpitations.
@@M.Sforza great! What that tells me is the carb withdrawal/keto flu was hardcore for you. Mine lasted 4-6 weeks, 2 months is crazy long. Meat, fruit, and veggies is another awesome way to eat, so continue listening to your body. If you’re feeling better, keep it up😀😀
how did vitamin D3 supplementation affect your mineral balance? how much vitamin D3 did you take?
Hello! I talked about that in this video, extremely high levels of vitamin D supplementation can create a drain on your magnesium stores. In the case of a carnivore diet, you are not consuming as much magnesium as someone eating a normal diet, which is fine in most cases. But throw in extremely high levels of vitamin D supplementation and you can find yourself unable to replenish your magnesium stores with just diet alone, hence the need for magnesium supplementation. Lesson: dont supplement with high levels of D unless you also supplement with magnesium, esp. within the context of a carnivore diet. D is best derived from the sun :)
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My restless leg syndrome was caused by coffee and caramel, and it only returns when I have these substances.
Interesting! I havent heard that before
carnivore + pills