2024 Subaru WRX TR Review // STI In Disguise?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The 2024 Subaru WRX TR (RS In Canada) ($41K) is a brand new trim for the new generation Subaru WRX. It still has the same 271 horsepower from a 2.4 liter turbocharged boxer 4 cylinder but it gets fully outfitted with goodies like Recaro seats, upgraded suspension, brakes, wheels and tires. But does that make it more than the sum of its parts, or is it just another excuse for Subaru to not release a proper STI? Watch and find out!
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Subaru is wise enough to hear the criticisms of their cars…and then keep the things that are criticized, and change OTHER things 😂
This is pretty bad.
Biggest thing that annoys me with them is how they refuse to offer the wagon body THEY DO MAKE in japan, australia and until recently europe. Levorg/WRX Sportwagon is literarily what people need and want. It fixes the rear end looks, its immensely practical when compared to Crosstrek.
I'd rather get the 300+ hp from the factory. it's like Subaru is saying blow up your motor it's not our problem.
heres a big one for them, they are over priced for what they are, plenty of other cars put there that do the same thing if not better than the wrx and a lot cheaper
@@Kacpa2 Rumor control has it Toyota on their revamped GR86 will offer a wagon body style option.
I will believe it when I see it but really they are going to hit the mark with that idea. I will be waiting.
I bought a 2004 STi in 2003. For 20 years I have been waiting for an upgrade. It looks like it could be another 20 years.
Don’t hold your breath.
I had a 2004 and absolutely loved it. I hated that I had to sell that bad boy!
The 2004 STi was like a crazy gf. Fun, tried to kill me at least once, and not someone you want to have a family with. That’s not to say I don’t miss it.
Keep you Sti until you can’t find parts to repair it each time it explodes 😅
Same with my 05
For anyone wondering, the birds you can hear in the background are called killdeer. They're a pretty cool little ground nesting bird that will fake injuries to lead predators away from their nests/young.
@@jonny4984 dope fact. I love it.
Awesome fact
Nice one 😊
Are they tasty?
they are also SUPER aggressive when you get near their nest.
When I bought an STI in 2021, the base package which was 310hp, 290lb-ft torque, mechanical LSDs front and rear, DCCD, 6-speed short throw, steering-responsive headlights, brembos with cross-drilled rotors and bilsteins was right about $38k. Lot has changed in 3 years.
Yeah it's sad, new WRX owners keep talking about how much power their FA24 can make as if we only care about straight line, they don't talk about new WRX bad handling since it uses front open diff and rear open diff and brakepad torque vectoring straight from the SUV Forester, no LSD at all.
My 2014 STI was just over $40k out the door with taxes and everything, the current WRX is like $45k for a worse car.
@@zombielivesmatter7294the new stock WRX handles better than any STi before it. The new chassis is leagues better than the old VA and prior chassis. The fancy difs of the STi really only benefited handling on a loose surface.
@@SuzukiKid400sure sure
@@SuzukiKid400 it's not new chassis, tell me you don't know about your own car. New VB WRX is built on SAME chassis as existing SUV Forester and Ascent, it's called Subaru Global Platform initiative, they did it to SAVE costs. Yes your new VB is stronger and safer because it was built originally for Forester and Ascent! Could you imagine Honda saying they're going to hold their Type R on SUV Honda Pilot chassis? Or Porsche saying they're going to build there 911 on SUV Caynne chassis? Stop being so delusional, we get it VB is only car you can afford but you don't have to make it bigger than it is to make yourself feel better, just enjoy the car for what it is sheesh.
POV Subaru doing all in their power to give the customers not what they're asking for
and yet its still slower than a 30k hyundai
100%. They've been doing that for about 10 years now. Never extra power, because they're afraid of recalls and getting back their bad reliability reputation.
@@OviWanKeno9i Yea, but it's definitely not all about speed or power. Take an S2k or Miata for example being known as driver enthusiast cars. People also do want long term reliability if they plan on keeping the car for years to come and don't want it to be stuck in shops for weeks at a time (sorry Hyundai). The problem is this "sort of sporty but also very practical" sports car just isn't what the main STI/WRX fan base was. They (I included) want the clean, tuned look, with the classic wing and interior that isn't so clanky. An exhaust that pops/crackles or at least isn't as muted as this. I think the practical class is already dominated which is why this won't sell much at all. The only real redemption with this car is the manual transmission, and AWD if you really need it.
@@OviWanKeno9i the new wrx actually is much more powerful all throughout the entire powerband. It's underrated. Compare the dyno graphs.
Just like our government
I can’t watch a throttle house without an intro. It’s why I’m here! My god, it certainly isn’t for “objective journalism” or to “better understand Canadian culture”
"We don't track Corollas"
Yeah you do, it's on your leaderboard.
3:51 to be exact literally as he said it 😂
he meant he doesn't track normal garbage cars like the camry and the corolla (non track versions). The GR is based on tuning for track
@@Proparkourgamer it's still a Corolla. And it's what he said. 🤷♂️
He might as well have said "we don't track Corollas and Civics".
@@Proparkourgamersame also TLX Type S and Integra Type R and S.
A guy in my town got one of the new WRX’s. He paint matched the fender flares,lowered it and put some bronze TE37’s on it. It’s the first one I’ve seen that actually looks good.
We still NEED the STI. Subaru is really letting us down. I just found out that in Japan, you CANNOT get the WRX with a manual transmission. Come on subaru!!
regulations?
Is the Yaris GR also has manual gearbox choice?
@@Proparkourgamersomehow the blame is on subaru
Subaru lost its way. Sold my 2021 STI and moved on to Porsche.
Even if they did bring back the STI, nothing is fixing that god awful interior or piece of shit engine. STIs are also very unreliable GARBAGE
Who wants to see an entire episode of Thomas coaching James in high performance driving?
As an HPDE instructor, I found that portion of the video to be funny. Getting people to push cars hard on track is always a bit of a challenge, but rewarding when they get it right. It seems like James just needs a bit more confidence in pushing a car hard in a serious way and not just doing power slides for the camera.
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No intro? :(
Wouldn't know...skip it every time zzzzz
I think this was an extra throttle house video but got a last minute promotion
I know sometimes they don't do intros for the track/drag race videos, but this feels more like a review. Definitely disappointing
I thought this was extra TH for a second
They don't always do one for track days
I like how the centre console (touch screen) is integrated into the dash and not lazily plonked on top or in front of it.
As a former WRX owner, Subaru has never been known for its beauty, but this generation is just ugly with that cladding, and fake vents. The exterior reminds me of the last gen Civic Type R, and not in a good way.
Last gen type R looked pretty in comparison
Previous wrx gens were ugly, but unique. This gen is ugly yet boring and plain. I think that's why everyone hates the look so much, it's just so boring .
@@snakerb over the years I have owned a '95 Mazda mx3, '00 Acura Integra GSR, '14 civic si hfp and now a magnetite grey '22 WRX. The WRX has gotten the most compliments, by far. To each their own.
This - I owned a '09 Legacy Spec.B and LOVED that car - what you got for the money was insane, great interior and looked great on the outside too. Not enough power, modded mine and tracked it a few years. Passing a F430 Scud in it was very memorable :D
Subaru going for the Elantra look.
The MSRP in Canada compared to the US is actually insane. You can buy a TR in Canada for the same price as a BASE model in the US. And upon further inspection, you can buy a BRZ tS for LESS THAN THE BASE MODEL BRZ in the US.
Congrats on 3 Million subs guys! Where Emira?
Guessing James will abandon it since his home countryman, Harry, sold his for dubious silly reasons.
@@spewpwhat, did Harry just flip it for profit? He’s never been super outspoken on his personal cars.
@@spewp He swapped a Lotus for a McLaren still concerning me about reliability since the Artura hasn't fared very well. Rory of Autotrader drove the press car and it Randomly dropped power, like temporary shutdown engine that could leave him stranded
@@spewpalso no Caterham 7 in this list.
@@baoquoc3710usually Artura has better reliability than Lotus cars.
Feels like this should have been an Extra throttle house video , not the main channel. Good video just doesn't give the same production vibes as most of their other videos.
Hopefully they issue an apology and give you your money back.
The center differential controller, LSD, direct connected 6 speed, and hydraulic steering is really what made the STi feel so much more race inspired than a WRX. The modern cable driven 6 speed and electronic steering feels like I’m driving a rental.
Exactly lol. They’re very capable and have the best power plant for sure, but as far as just driving goes, ESPECIALLY STOCK, any turbo EJ will feel infinitely better.
I thought this was a pretty solid video, regardless of what some other's are saying. Yes, it had the track intro and no, it shouldn't have been on Throttle House extra by the way it was filmed and edited. People are too picky. Been following you guys for a few years now and am more than pleased with the content. Love the cinematic vusuals and the comedic, canadian banter and presentation. Keep it up, boys! 👏🏼👏🏼
I painted the rear bumper, and it changed everything . Bigger brakes and wider color matched fenders with coils make this car stand out above all those in its price range. It also has more aftermarket support already than any other brand. With just an intake and tune, you're pushing above everything around. Plus, STI swap trans and easy reliable 500hp with new strait con rods and bee hive valve springs. High revs with no worries. It's a sleeper for sure.
Basically " I changed almost everything about the car and threw away the reliability benefits of buying a new car and now it's passable" type comment
Dying laughing at that last dialog, "No, James... we're still going to keep the regular WRX at last place." ...... "Oh, okay."
This video just validates my recent decision to buy a used Focus RS
Perfect video to watch whilst eating.
Also perfect to watch while watching Volleyball Live Matches.
Or going to the bathroom
I watch during sex
Disagree, the car's body cladding made me nauseous.
I perfer sedans, but WRX should be offered as both sedan and hatch/wagon.
23 year wrx owner. Gave up last month and bought a ‘24 golf R dsg
I’m curious why you gave up on the WRX?
And hopefully you won’t regret it. Have your code reader in the glove box.
The 2024 WRX rivals the Pontiac Aztec for the World's Ugliest Car award.
Best value is the base or premium trim and just do these upgrades yourself. Subaru is phoning it in with the TR but the platform is a good daily driver and can be fun as a reasonably affordable AWD / manual car.
Did the TR has 6 speed auto gearbox?
“Best value” is buying a different car. 40k for 280hp is abysmal. I’ll give the VB engine the credit it’s due, but come on. 40k is slightly used mid level German car price.
biggest thing that hurts the DD of this thing IMO is the 22mpg avg.
@@On2wheels94when mine was stock I avg 27.5 hardly driving on freeway an when on freeway it'd get 30 with cruise control set to 80
Seeing you two driving together in a main channel video is awesome - it feels so fun!
When's the 50k tonne M5 out?
🥱
It's only 2.5 ... my Merc v is almost same weight
@@tomekkaminski2677the difference is your mercedes v class is a large van based mpv😂the M5 is meant to be a sporty performance saloon which handles well and is also fast. The new M5 being 2500kg means it is neither it's both slower than the previous generation and due to the weight it will not handle as well either.
It's gross how much some of these new vehicles weigh. A little M2 shouldn't weigh as much as it does either but even worse is how ugly BMW is making their new cars
The new M5 hopefully gets hammered hard as it should. A fiasco.
Love the transparency and sincerity in your remarks
I used to be a die hard Subaru fan. Ive owned 3 WRX's, 2 90s Imprezas including an RS and wheny wife needed a bigger car we got her into a 17 Forester XT. With that being said when it came time for me to finally buy my first brand new car a month ago i really took a hard look at what i wanted and ended up getting a Civic Type R and couldnt be happier. Subaru dropped the ball Hard with this new generation, between removing the STi and the new body style being completely fugly, it wasn't even on my radar.
It’s funny. I dumped my 2024 Type R after only three months. I got a new 2023 WRX and love it! We all have different tastes and needs I suppose. 😄
@@enricosacehow’s the type r compare to the wrx?
You guys are killing it right now. Love your stuff
The Dark Horse is sitting with some serious company up there.
4:55 I agree completely. I noticed that on my WRX premium, it’s a rough ride at slow speeds but feels planted and happier with spirited driving on a back road.
Subaru WRX looking like a Honda Civic with a scoop these days.
That is insulting to the civic.😂
@@Marbind LOL You're right - I'm sorry, Honda.
It’s looked like a tarted-up Civic since 2008, aside from the ‘08-‘15 hatchback.
Sondaru typest
Have you seen the current gen civic?
They NEED to make a new STi. I heard there was some motortrend rumors about a electric or hybrid STi being announced next year PLEASE GOD ILL TAKE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT
Paint the black cladding with body color!
It would still look like shit. Just slightly better looking shit. Like shit that is fresh, and had yet to be stepped on.
I've seen dealers actually do this in a desperate attempt to sell them, still looks like ass.
Looks worse tbh
With the arches and part of the bumpers painted it does help. But now you had to spend $1500 in paint work on a new car. lol
I would definitely buy a black car with that trim 😂
that STI you showed for a second looked so good.
Subaru really falling behind when the competition is really doing a good job.
Man i still miss the 1990s Impreza WRX cars like 1996 Impreza WRX Version III.
What other company nowadays produces an affordable turbo AWD manual sedan?
@@BDA0531 Doesn't really matter now that the sales for the car have absolutely tanked. Guess it really isn't all that affordable to compromise on the looks.
@@LitheumNight Subaru isnt the only company facing tanked sales. Everyone is clenching unto their money
My VB WRX has gotten nothing but praise for its looks in person but yet alot of people online says the opposite lol
@@BDA0531 Everyone is experiencing that now, yes, but the WRX sales starting plummeting in the second half of 2023. They've never recovered.
Also, people tend to be nicer to your face and don't want to start an argument. Many, many more people think negative of the car, especially those who would always upgrade to newer models. I never saw anyone walk up to an owner of an Aztec or PT Cruiser and tell them their car is ugly, but it is universally accepted.
Edit: I also want to clarify if you bought one and are happy with it, great! That is what should matter to you.
You guys convinced me to buy a WRX, living in Canada, this is the perfect car for me to learn manual and have fun🎉
As a Subaru fan, I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 💯
buy one in Jamaica wagwan!
@@shawtmanXR ya mon!
3 million subs!!!!!!!! Congratulations! So deserved.
Looks like a Ford Taurus mad a baby with a Honda Civic and gave birth prematurely...
@@gmattification wouldn't even say it was premature. Looks more like a miscarriage lol
@@twatts45 🤣
It took this generation of WRX to make the bug eye look reasonable.
I don't have the words to describe how disappointing that is.
Even Pulsar GTI-R from 1991 also looks better than 2024 Impreza TR.
40% black plastic and tiny ass headlights
only way the new WRX looks decent is when it's dark gray or black to hide the plastic
@@pandaslayer the car only looks good in dark grey and black when you can’t see the car 😅
The bug eye WRX has always looked cool, any statement to the contrary is factually inaccurate.
James shouting "I am a father!' lmaoooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
The last gen STI is better looking though, also bots are now stealing people's comments
This isnt a bad looking car in the front. People make a big deal out of nothing. The rear end looks stupid. But i understand the cladding making it look cheaper. They should have gone the TRD pro tacoma route with the gloss black cladding to make it look more premium. Or give it camo style like the tundra. Something to spruce it up. But yeah the rear end looks horrible. Previous gen looks way better overall
Let’s just be happy they don’t offer the car in stupid primer gray
Because of my previous subaru wrx ownership, my vape addiction carried on post ownership😂
None of the changes or "improvements" help the fact it still looks like a 2012 civic. Ill stick with my gd chassis another 10 years
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I got a car here in Winnipeg, MB, that I believe would make a great review video. If you could find the time to squeeze it in in your busy schedule, I’d love to see it! It's the Jaguar XJ portfolio 2012 model with a 5.0-liter V8 in Azurite Blue.
I just love the amazing videos you've been putting out here. They're so entertaining, informative, and most of all, lots of fun to watch!❤
I applaud Subaru for making a manual transmission, manual handbrake car in 2024. A huge miss is not making it a hatchback, like 90% of the community is asking for. No, Subaru, you will not lose sales of the precious Outback or Crosstrek by making it a hatchback. But even if you do, they are still buying a Subaru, whereas they might otherwise get a Golf R or GTI.
Nah I don't want to drive an egg
In USA, 3rd Gen WRX have 50:50 in term of sale number for sedan:hatchback but for STi 70% of its was sedan. Community is asking for it but don't actually buy one.
"Community" Yeah they would sell 100 with hatch, and 5k in the sedan. The hatch is never coming back, just give it up already. WRX going to only sedan was a good thing. The new chassis has made the car much better at handling. Now, drop a turbo into a Crosstrek, and I'd be all over that.
Gotta love Thomas riding James, trying to get him to go deep with the WRX on track!
The plastic body cladding was not done tastefully. In fact, there shouldn't be any. It's not a crossover.
Silly boys, there are more Subarus per capita in Colorado than anywhere else on Earth! Canadians just know a good thing when they see it.
....for Canadians, they consider the TR...the Outback sedan...the plasic cladding...🙄
The 9th gen Civic tail lights...meh
I can’t explain my love for the wrx. Maybe I’m mentally still in my 2011 wrx hothatch racing across the near entire width of Oklahoma on my way home for winter holiday.
How does this thing redline at 6k? Is this a diesel? Or a 1985 Japanese mini-truck with basic fuel injection?
Thank goodness I got my 2020 STI in 2020 and didn’t wait for the new gen.
I'm thinking about buying me a used or Certified Pre-Owned 2020 WRX STI.
Personally, I don't care for AWD because I live in Florida and down here it is not necessary or needed, but I need to get out of my V8 manual sedan for something a bit more efficient and going to be cheaper on gas even if it means I still have to use 93 octane, but won't burn gas as fast as a V8 engine's full tank of fuel will.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 I think it’s really fun to drive. I’m sure there are more practical things to get but I just like the STI, it’s different.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536unfortunately STI and fuel efficiency don’t go in the same paragraph. Most gas guzzling 4 cylinder. I’d consider a late model golf R or something with a V6 to get more fuel efficiency
The new WRX is better to drive both as a daily and on the track compared to the VA STi. Did you not watch the video?
that plastic skirts.
It's a good car begging for an engine. The WRX has gained significant weight over the years but power output has remained relatively static
You guys spot on with WRX dead last and TR near last, mirrors C&D lightning lap playing WRX very last and also Zach from thesmokingtire saying new WRX is almost untrackable. Many WRX owners dont know why and it's because of the drivetrain. New WRX uses front open diff and rear open diff with brakepad torque vectoring straight from the Forester SUV. AWD sports cars like EVO, STI, GR Corolla, Golf R, GTR all come with front LSD, center DCCD/AYC diff, and rear LSD.
The WRX has always come with open diffs. Only the STI got all of the upgrades. This isn’t new.
So much for VB owners fawning over their FA24, Subaru themselves in order to build a powerful VB dubbed "Project Midnight" ditched the FA24 and put in a EJ207 built by Vermont Sportscar.
The EJ has been around for 30 years with years of R&D. The FA24 only been around for a few years
The Boxer engine is so complex that only one car company out of two could improve engine power through generations - Porsche
The Impreza WRX TR has upgraded boxer engine powerplant.
@@purwantiallan5089 Lets take 10y gap:
*2014* Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2.5 L & 305 hp compare to *2024* Subaru WRX TR 2.4 L & 271 hp
*2014* Porsche 911 3.8 L & 475 HP compare to *2024* Porsche 911 3.8 L & 640 HP
Where is the power Lebowski?
@@purwantiallan5089 Improved how? Maybe head gaskets.. lol. They never give us more power, and no, like 3 HP doesn't count.. they're so frustrating. I just don't consider them anymore.
@@AndriusKamarauskasyou also have to consider they're selling to a different demographic. And one demographic seems a little more responsible with power than the other lmao
Are you actually trying to compare flat out reliability between a Subaru Engine, and that of a Porsche? You Really see a Porsche going into the 100,000 miles without ever experiencing issues??
On your track time video lap, it would be great to add a picture in picture of the racetrack as your drivingit. Thx for your great content!
Isnt the Elantra N the better option over this? Faster, cheaper, sounds better, more tech and fun..
The exhaust sounds sick. Why can't manufacturers produce a decent tone?!?
maybe an STD but not an STI
Finally some positivity for the WRX. Subaru has let me down for years coasting on what made the car great in the mid 2000’s. I hope that Subaru keeps trending in this direction. People like good performance cars and there’s no reason why they shouldn’t continue making them.
These new wrx powerbands are so anemic, falls on its face at 4k rpms so bad, i thought the car i was driving had an issue until i drove a 2nd. Emissions ruining the WRX.
I’ll watch their vids for cars I could care less about just for the intros and comedic banter bits.
I am begging you to tell Subaru execs directly to massively improve their infotainment, add hybrids, add a bit more power to their vehicles, to fire their designers and hire new better ones, and lastly to ditch the cvts or at least use Toyota e-cvts
@bryangillis1839 They shouldn't have made it then than half assed it.
The word you’re looking for in German is "die eierlegende Wollmilchsau", that would be an egg laying sow that gives milk and has wool! 😃
I respect Subaru a lot. No matter what they keep on making ugly cars consistently.
As he was hauling butt around the track in it I really just wanted to say in a gentle quite soothing voice "Shhhh, You'll wake the Subie".....lol.
That shifter was moving all around when you were doing your lap. Look like it shifted on its own at one point when you pressed the clutch. Should it move that much?
Remember when WRXs were terrors on the street and track? It's been quite a while...20 years?
True I rarely see them now. Did they all blow up?
Anyone remember when the name WRX/STI actually meant something ?
McRae, Foust, Block, those guys carried the legacy of the WRX to where it was, and then Bean Counter Nerds in Subaru R&D took over. That, Or.... There is a Background deal between Subaru and Toyota, in Keeping the GR Corolla a Hatchback. Subaru is completely capable of Making a Small truck, Yet We all know it would be similar to the Tacoma. And we don't ever hear about Subaru making plans for such an offering. Things like that make me wonder
Get over ir old man. This Present. The current WRX is sexy, great sound and yiu can amways put UEL for that boxer engine. Never driven sonething else. WRX for life
@@NetomaMusicit's not about sound or looks, it's sad that new WRX handles even worse than old ones and why it placed last place on this track test and TR placed near last. VB WRX uses open front diff and open rear diff with brakepad torque vectoring straight from the Forester SUV. It's why VB owners only talk about making power from FA24 to go fast in straight line drag racing. Old models handled better because STI came with front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD.
On your track, I would attribute the time improvement to the brake upgrade. My 23 WRX stock pads turn to wooden boards over 70mph... The stock -.5 degree front camber is also painful.
I really wish subaru didn't make the ugliest cars on the market
Thomas the track instructor...Nicely done!
I really wish if Subaru bring back STI on the new Subaru Impreza
Congrats on 3 million subs! You guys deserve double that, easy!
The fuel economy is horrid
I had a 2018 WRX that was modded like crazy and so much fun, I got rid of it in 2020 when I saw Subaru was changing their tried and tested boxer for a redesigned one as I was hoping to upgrade down the line. To this day I believe it was one of the greatest choices I've made because I would have been waiting literally decades for an upgraded Subaru that never would have come into market. They do everything they can to NOT improve their cars in ways their customers actually ask for and I want nothing to do with that.
what did you sell it for?
@@bobwayne17 28k back to the dealer i bought it from
9 seconds ago is crazy
I love my 2002 WRX sedan. It has suspension, brake and engine work done. Prodrive PFF7 wheels. 2007 STi 6speed and R180 rear diff. My problem with Subaru is through all these years the WRX has not changed enough for me to buy a new one.
Man Subaru is such trash now.
I am the original owner of a 2007 WRX TR with 83k miles that I still daily. I would take my Hawkeye over every generation that has come out. I don't think I would ever buy another WRX. They are not the value proposition they used to be and the disappointing looks are no longer outweighed by their value and practicality. My hopes of buying a 400 HP STI were shattered when Subaru dropped it from their lineup, after creating some hype about what the new STI would be and what the rumored power numbers to expect were. Now, I am currently looking at 2021-2023 M340s because they are, in my opinion, a grown up luxury version of what the STI could have been. Subaru needs to stop their current design language and steal a designer from Mazda.
I am new car shopping right now. I can't help but feel one GIANT difference between the performance sedan/hatch is not getting enough attention. The price difference. Almost every review says "Dealer mark-ups are wrong but we aren't going to talk about that." Then never talk about it again. A Type R is going for $5,000 over sticker at all the local dealers, that is $50,000. A GR Corolla is $800/mn. I am getting a WRX , in the Limited (top trim) for $2000 under sticker AND 3.9%. No other cars' performance sedan/hatch are even close to that. It is $18,000 to $7,000 savings. And you know what I am going to buy with that savings. For $750, a Cobb AP. Then my WRX is faster than all the stock Golfs, Civics, and Corrollas and I am still $6000 less. These guys need to do a comparison with the Cobb AP. Please Please Please do a comparison. Just the Cobb AP, and you don't even need anything else. I am sure Cobb would pay for it. Subaru may not condone it (officially) but they would appreciate it because to would level the playing field on the price difference and give them huge bump in sales.
As an owner of a 22 WRX all I can say is wise choice/investment.
Sounds like you're just trying to validate your decision. The Type R and GRC made a name for itself in performance and thrills. It was built without any focus group, and minimum cost cutting. It's like a badge of honor to say you own one. This new WRX, well it's not an STi.
@@DroneStrike1776 you can go ahead and buy your "badge of honor". I'll build mine.
Completely agree that it should be a hatch.
If they did that nobody would buy one. Not even you.
Who remembers when a WRX was only $26k in 2021.... subaru is asking STI limited prices for a WRX lol... this is just asinine.
We would all appreciate the BTS footage....We'd like to know how many engines you had to replace to drive the course.
Ugly plastic wheel arches and a Tesla infotainment screen? Not to mention the rear tail lights from a civic 3 generations ago. Sorry Subaru, not for 45k USD. Get bent.
Thomas - You do like three things and none of them well, can we look at the interior🤦🏾🚶🏾
James - Jack of all three trades🙆🏾🙆🏾😂😂
It looks like a Honda civic type r another word that looks boring I'm sorry to say.
But, it's got to be the only all wheel drive manual left.
@@LLG47 GR Corolla? GR Yaris?
@@jeremyfong5684 No Yaris in US, GR Corolla is transverse mounted too so I guess its AWD but not symmetrical longitudinally mounted full time AWD.
I want to see someone paint (or wrap) that plastic cladding in body colour, and I'm willing to bet it would look a million times better.
I really don't know who thought it was a good idea, and it's not just Subaru's.
The cladding doesn't make it look "tough" or "durable" it makes it look cheap and is road salt's favorite panel to hide behind.
Literally hundreds have done this already. Check out Aeroflow dynamics. Body coloured fenders make the new WRX look like a blah 2000s Corolla!
@@SuzukiKid400 So I googled it, and not only does it not make it look like a Corolla, it does in fact look a million times better.
Congrats on 3 million subs. I think I was here when you had less than 50,000 subs.
Suburu still getting blind people to design their cars! YEUCH!
"Let's watch the rest of the lap" -proceeds to show Thomas and not the POV I loved
EWWW GROSSS (lmao didn’t expect Subaru content today, I USE TOO get hype for shit like this)
I was so excited to be ready for a new car right around the time the last gen STi was being phased out. I was very disappointed there was no more STi, and gave up on the idea of owning a Subaru. I'm actually glad they canceled the STi now, because I would have jumped the gun and missed out on this sick GR Corolla im driving now.