I have a friend who is playing plants and got Fuwalosed and just took the challenge. His opponent drew about 20 cards but apparently the plant deck ends on about 17 interruptions now so he still won
@@RaresMardare0x0They need pay attention to fuwa shuffel back effect as well so it can messed up certain gamestate which is favored plants player even more
long time chimera truther, chimera gets the flex to search diabellze too from gazelle eff and thats probably coming back on the opponents turn, its very irritating for tenpai specifically - field spell pop and the quickplay is locked
I'm so happy I picked up Centur-Ion with the tins. I've always liked the deck since it was announced in the OCG, but it was too expensive with the release of Valiant Smashers. As soon as the tins came out, I snatched them up, both because I think the deck is fun and I can finally play it in paper, and I was thinking "this deck has so many lines under the mulcharmies, it might be lowkey good next format."
It isn't that cheap. Is like 8 $10 usd cards + staples. Also, deck isn't that good competitively. Other non fuwalos hand traps still exist and are still seeing play alongside fuwalos, and deck is quite weak vs some of those like impulse
@easyygo3008 Yesterday, I played pure Centur-ion (with the bystial package) for the first time in months after using a few cards as an engine for White Forest previously. I played against our only Snake-Eyes Azamina player (who was Top 32 with Snake-Eyes Fiendsmith at YCS Sacramento, even was on feature). I lost game 3 at time, against an extremely good opponent with a deck I wasn't even fully spun up on (still getting used to Primera Primus) The deck isn't Tier 1, but it can definitely handle the meta.
I 100% agree with the opinions Josh has presented here. Everything is probably completely correct.....but I'm still gonna play Mimighoul. I just like the deck too much. Yes I am heartbroken that we finally got a worthwhile TCG exclusive deck and then they print a card that completely walls the deck and kills it but I don't care. IMO they have to draw Impulse first. Hopefully I draw Shifter before they see Impulse.
I played the deck on release day about a week ago and I was actually siding Prohibition strictly to call Impulse, it was bad but it actually did come up twice lmao Overall I think if they impulse you it's better to just end on field spell + trap and maybe assembled nightingale so they can't kill you, then try to kill the next turn
I have the exact same opinion. Josh has way more experience and game knowledge than me so I respect his reasoning, but I love those little chest monsters.
I love that plant players have evolved to a cult like status, where it's not even clear how we are keeping our beliefs strong and are somehow able to put in so much effort and dedication that something good happens. I love this air of reverence lmao
The way to give Centurion the push it needs into the meta is by playing the Sinful Spoils engine. It gives you ways to get into primus and/or make an omni before even committing to the board with a cent card, and ups the consistency significantly
@@Ironpecker Deceptio, add Sacred Azamina, fuse into Mu Rcielago, search Wanted, search then summon Diabellstar, set Original, and then either activate original and send Mu Rcielago to summon jet, or if you have Cent starters, link summon a Link 2, return Sacred Azamina to hand, fuse Illia Silvera with Original and add Jet as discard fodder for Stand up
I really don't think Mimighoul auto-loses to the incidental floodgate of Impulse. None of the flip effects are so mission-critical and they have enough power baked into the xyz effects that I think they could scrape by without the primary gimmick. HOWEVER, they still will lose to Impulse simply because 80% of their activated effects say "special summon" and all their lines have choke points it can stop.
Supreme king pendulum plays really well into mulchi. Double board wipes kirin bounces. Time pendulumgraph. Alot if different interruptions with 1-2 draws tops.
I got 2-0d by the millennium exodia player who topped in round 7 of niagara, i was on snake-eye azamina and opened impulse both games but it turns out millennium ankh is not once per turn so im coping that the deck is good and i didn't just get dumpstered by rogue (shifter crazy card)
One card combo decks end on billiok negates, YGO players: Kill the deck! Old ygo was much better! Konami releases card that weakens said 1 card combo decks and strenghens midrange/control, YGO players: How dare they make combo unplayable!
@@mcmisterhd1920 Nice strawman you just built for yourself there. Lemme tear it down real quick. Never in the history of any card game, has a meta warping card ever been healthy for the game. This doesn't even stop combo decks, the best deck of the format are two combo decks. It just means the combo has to go into the Extra Deck less to be competitive, or be even more stupidly busted powerful to offset it. Think before you type next time.
@@monkfishy6348 The best deck is azamina SE (with either FK engine or not) and I would not call tenpai combo but. After that we have mostly midrange to combo. Yes theoretically in the future we could have toxic combo decks that summon few times from extra (similar to memento) but for the time being, the format is much more balanced. Also "Never in the history of any card game, has a meta warpig card ever been healthy for the game" - thats a nice argument senator, why dont you back it up with a source? Also speaking of strawmans - I never said stops combo, I said WEAKENS which looking at Joshs tier list and YCS results you would have to be blind to deny
I've played plant for years but my issue is it can't escape the Genuis Loci lines. Yes, we have Aromages to play straight into Jasmine link, we have Rikka that can overlay/negate/tribute and gain advantage but nothing is as good as Loci to start everything off.
I don't 100% agree with mimighoul auto-losing to Impulse. Getting hit by it hard really does suck, but it has enough extenders to play through it and can run other engines that synergizes with them to help them play through disruption better. Also I think it plays through Fuwalos really well (Granted this depends on the hand), but the jellyfish... is a different story.
@@milestademy9276yeah, if you dominus someone they can't make you activate their mimighouls so the deck's entire gimmick falls apart and they cant do anything to you lol
@@user-jk7vp7vn2k Not strictly true, the field spell carries in those instances since it still floodgates while they have a set, and you can really easily put another set onto their field with the trap as an interrupt, then OTK the next turn using the direct attack thing
The answers I have found online are inconsistent but thoughts on making a video that discusses the different runick variants for the format and tiering them? Love your work.
There's not much discussion because WF is the best by quite a margin. Other variants like Bystial/Fur Hire die to Fuwalos, Bystial in particular is cope without Baronne, less competitive variants mid going first and even worse going second and then you have Stun which feels like a gambling deck since you rely on drawing the right floodgates and have to pray your opponent doesn't have the out Chimera I want to say ranks high, but you'd probably rather just play it without Runicks since there wasn't much synergy between the two engines anyway
How's Purrely weak into Fuwalos? You chain your memories to it and decide if you want to summon on resolution. Usually if they shotgun it you chain to it and give them one draw when summoning the little noir, you can also main gamma and negate it as they chain to your first memory. Turn 2+ your opponent can't use fuwalos so summoning more purrelies does nothing and a dead fuwalos is is still good for discard.
I know it's not on a lot of people's radar, dlink is actually quite good. With the new metalmorph cards as well as the bystials, the deck can play into fuwa. Against yubel, spheres pass with a bystial in hand anyone? Against snake-eye, it hits the Fiendsmith part of the deck. The rest comes down to technical play. Also, blue-eyes d-link is SO good. Rougher match up vs yubel but try and play fire king against a deck that has jet dragon and upwards of 2 omnis plus bystials.
The thing about plants is that under Fuwa they would give their opponent like 20 draws (as a plant player I did the math), but plants are so versatile that they don’t need to play the big combo to end on a couple interruptions while giving their opponent minimal draws. Purulia is usually a bigger issue than Fuwa at least for some plant builds. I can see 60 card plant dying down a bit and them shifting to some more slow builds.
@@WombatOfDisaster I’m saying plants have a line where they give Fuwa one draw, end on like 3 interruptions, and all the follow up. They can play the grind at that point.
@@WombatOfDisaster Well you have to start with Petal, which means you’d have to play plants that way. But honestly it’s not that bad. Petal -> Mudan -> Field Spell -> Glamour, add the two level 4s, make strenna, detach add back Glamour, and that’s two interruptions for one draw, and you also have your hand traps and all follow up Nothing insane, but neither is Centurion under fuwa.
as i have said on other channels YCS Anaheim is going to be my retirement event as i am going on an extended break to focus on my health and other hobbies that are less exp. and in some cases less stressful than modern Yugioh where that is on disability checks don't get a fair chance to compete using let's say more unfair tools my question is this do you think we will have another supply issue for the crossover breakers for access to the cards or is it too early to say as for the current meta my deck of choice is a relic of a bygone era with some tools to punish hand trap users in a big way
Brother…How does kash not play into perulia? Are we forgetting they need to be specialed from hand. Birth gives you an extra normal to that they love to use..
Unicorn search theosis summon fenrir pass, or make shang summon fenrir on their turn. It’s not great but it’s not like you can’t just pass on some kash monsters. Aside from the first kash monster the only real other one you’d special from hand is riseheart
I'm still advocating for Memento, deck is crazy good, only autoloss is against shifter (not like there are too many decks that don`t auto lose to shifter), can setup crazy boards through handtraps is hyper consistent with multiple 1 and 2 card combos and various lines into different handtraps, can play fiendsmith or not and it somehow doesn't change the powerlevel too much (not entirely cope), not to mention the very good grind game with fieldspell and creation shuffle 5. Would 100% be playing the deck IRL if it wasn`t for the fact I'm a broke 18 yo and a playset of angwitch and bone party go for something around 250$ in my country even though the rest of the deck is pennies (3x of every other card in the deck isn't even 15$)
@@alexc3337 And what do the Azamina cards offer? My gut feeling is that the deck might not need two whole additional engines after the addition of Ulcanix but I'm just getting back into the game after some time away so still getting caught up on the current meta lol
WoooooooooooooooooooooooooooW......... I never even thought about that shit for mimighoul wow.... lol Yeah I'm not even going to finish making that deck now I have the entire core sitting here I'm literally not going to sleeve it up now. Thats ROUGH...
Im a bit surprised has nobody been able to do well with infernoids? Im not claiming its the best deck but im surprised its not even mentioned here. It has such a high ceiling with the new support and with snake eyes.
@francescolofaro8258 not really true it's actually a 60 card deck. You play 15 infernoids plus the 3 decatron. It has decent board break potential and woth snake eye plus diabell it has a very high ceiling going first. It was definitely better previous format though before the new mulcharmy card. Honestly though it can compete though and it's definitely better than a few decks on the list. Remember I'm not saying its the best but it's OK
you rated memento fine last time, fs still gets into engine. issue is that fs memento plays worse into fuwalos but pure's ceiling and going 2nd is worse
dark world never gets attention on these videos, i'm playing danger dark world this weekend for regionals. I made the meta call to remove the fiendsmith package because of fuwalos.
did you forget the part where vs literally doesn't end on anything? why do you care about whether it's good into a generic 3-of when it loses to itself?
@@trippersigs2248 as someone whose player it since before eit came out, the engine is very strong. I'd say it's right under rogue. It's a spell trap negate away from being rogue
@@elgoblino4188 then your playing it wrong, trust me a bad pilot makes the deck look dog shit. I can tell you a bad pilot by you saying every other engine is better
@@Goku-zu3rk ooooh yeah. I forgot about the new ritual, she's the one that came in the same set as the continuous spell. I don't disagree with your point
@chewdoom8415 that new ritual is not mentioned on most cards, hence can't be special summoned from the deck. Also, the old safira ritual can handrip on your end phase, whereas the new one can only do that on attack. And the trap is just a normal attack boost, that you don't need anyway.
Where is the new drytron? He is underestimating that deck. Gots tons of room for handtraps now, has one card combos, can play through handtraps too and put in solid boards now with even an ritual apollousa.
The kashtira purrely deck that got top 16 at Lille is great into fuwalos. Same as runick you can chain your quickplays to fuwalos. Generally i give my opponent 1 draw. Impulse hurts so i get your placement,but i would rank it higher(a bit)!
Y’all are over hyping wanna be maxx c. Can’t use it going first. Still gotta shuffle. Going second card which means you gotta break boards. What do I know
Konami: hey let’s make a good TCG exclusive archtype. Also Konami: hey let’s also make a card that makes it where our decent TCG exclusive archtype unplayable.
I guess Memento pure endboard IS AS strong AS Memento fiendsmith and fuwalos doesnt hur at all. 2-3 draws. If i Play full Combo 4-5 and If i Play my funny Combo with pair a dice smasher IT would also be 4-5. And you can Instant ein against everyone with 90% Chance i guess.und der Bindestrich sagt nur aus, ob man mit DARK Blade oder mit der Hexe anfängt ändert fast nichts, aber wäre ein Draw mehr. Yeah english Lacks sometimes😂
Are YCS tops an actually good indicator of a deck's power level? People keep using it as a barometer for deck strength, but like, because of the poor prize pool, surely people are attending these events with high powered decks they want to play and just making the best of that, rather than taking the absolute strongest decks out there. I'm just saying, I don't think the format is solved enough that "Oh, all the best players are playing this deck," is accurate to determining power level. As a casual player looking into the competitive scene from the outside, having been with Yugioh since 5DS, we make a lot of wrong assumptions about what's going to be good or bad. And while we are better now, it's still not perfect. I mean, who knows, if all the people repping Yubel committed their time to Illusion Chimera instead, they might perform better, but they WANT to play Yubel instead. If anything, the only thing YCS tops can teach us is who among the players are the strongest.
competitive event result is like literally the only way to judge the metagame. if the decks are able to top consistently with many result per event, then they will widely be considered as meta. if the result drop after several events, then it's not strong enough to compete. it's as simple as that. top players play test a lot of different deck for the format, so the process of determining the best deck isn't that easy. prize also can be a determining factor but it doesn't hugely affect the competitive result as many event topping decks are still expensive with many high-price staples. it's true that judging the format when it's still young isn't a right move, but we at least get an early indication which one will most likely stay relevant. it's also true that playerbase miss some good deck back then when we start to apply modern decks building in traditional format. but that's what the playerbase of that time decide based on their knowledge the same way we're currently doing. and it's fair since we can't do anything with that. but we can't deny that the competitive result is the best reference to determine the metagame and there's indeed a definitive best deck or meta contender for specific format.
I disagree with centr-ion being that high. Deck is ok, deck plays ok into fuwaloss, however, deck is dreadful vs other hand traps in format like impulse, nibiru, ogre and veiler, impermanence when paired with another one. And those are actually seeing play. You need actual power to compete, not only being good into fuwalos. The more the format develops, the less viable centur-ion will be
You are right. It was just really good positioned this ycs because a lot of people were still on breakers from the previous format making it the ideal format for centurion I would be very surprised if pak sticks with centurion next ycs
Being good against fuwalos is not it's only quality, the deck can extend through handtraps and specially with the new support the quality of your average endboard is drastically better than before considering you easily set up two blazars now. The amount of starters you can run including bonfire makes it really consistent too. Shifter isn't a huge deal either as well purulia. Just the best low floor/low ceiling midrange deck out there that can't really gas through boards like other decks can which is why it isn't in that best deck of the format territory imo
I think Fuwalos has been over-sensationalised; the card is powerful, but I don't think it's gonna be the card to ruin the format. Dominus Impulse, on the other hand, is horrible for the game - just simply rules out a lot of strategies from consideration, and if you run a deck that can't play it due to the Attribute-lock, then you are at a SIGNIFICANT disadvantage.
I like the new meta and Mulcharmies honestly... if only it wasn't so damn expensive to play competitively.
The only thing holding the players is the money as usual
I also enjoy the mulcharmmy and what they do to the game, it is not a maxx c
i think we need the third one for it to be a real charmy format where we actually stop the wombo combo decks
I keep saying the third mulcharmy will draw when summoned from gy or banishment
Lab is pretty cheap for how good it is this format
I have a friend who is playing plants and got Fuwalosed and just took the challenge. His opponent drew about 20 cards but apparently the plant deck ends on about 17 interruptions now so he still won
I guess he couldn't nib because rikka princess was in grave and you cannot veiler/imperm her?
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@@RaresMardare0x0They need pay attention to fuwa shuffel back effect as well so it can messed up certain gamestate which is favored plants player even more
Hahahahahahaha @@likandria7294
Take a shot every time Josh says unironically in a video
Same with Farfa 😂
I did and now I’m so drunk, I can’t even walk. But it’s still enough to play floo.
I May be depressed but im Not sui**Al enough to comsume that much alcehol
long time chimera truther, chimera gets the flex to search diabellze too from gazelle eff and thats probably coming back on the opponents turn, its very irritating for tenpai specifically - field spell pop and the quickplay is locked
Gazelle?
@@Steven-vd1iqGazelle king of mythical claws
I'm so happy I picked up Centur-Ion with the tins. I've always liked the deck since it was announced in the OCG, but it was too expensive with the release of Valiant Smashers. As soon as the tins came out, I snatched them up, both because I think the deck is fun and I can finally play it in paper, and I was thinking "this deck has so many lines under the mulcharmies, it might be lowkey good next format."
How much was the whole deck 😂
It isn't that cheap. Is like 8 $10 usd cards + staples.
Also, deck isn't that good competitively. Other non fuwalos hand traps still exist and are still seeing play alongside fuwalos, and deck is quite weak vs some of those like impulse
@easyygo3008 Yesterday, I played pure Centur-ion (with the bystial package) for the first time in months after using a few cards as an engine for White Forest previously. I played against our only Snake-Eyes Azamina player (who was Top 32 with Snake-Eyes Fiendsmith at YCS Sacramento, even was on feature). I lost game 3 at time, against an extremely good opponent with a deck I wasn't even fully spun up on (still getting used to Primera Primus)
The deck isn't Tier 1, but it can definitely handle the meta.
you can chainblock impulse btw, but you will have to go into chaos angel or legatia for interruption @@easyygo3008
I’ve had it since it came out, feels pretty rewarding to see it so viable now!
I 100% agree with the opinions Josh has presented here. Everything is probably completely correct.....but I'm still gonna play Mimighoul. I just like the deck too much. Yes I am heartbroken that we finally got a worthwhile TCG exclusive deck and then they print a card that completely walls the deck and kills it but I don't care. IMO they have to draw Impulse first. Hopefully I draw Shifter before they see Impulse.
I played the deck on release day about a week ago and I was actually siding Prohibition strictly to call Impulse, it was bad but it actually did come up twice lmao
Overall I think if they impulse you it's better to just end on field spell + trap and maybe assembled nightingale so they can't kill you, then try to kill the next turn
@@olliezoopyeah I'm siding it too
I have the exact same opinion. Josh has way more experience and game knowledge than me so I respect his reasoning, but I love those little chest monsters.
23:00 the "plant is my religion community"
Bro straight up stopped mentionning vanquish soul
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Damn, I didn't expect to see Yubel so low.
when you need to summon an infinite number of times and you have no backup plan if fuwalos resolves then you’re cooked
I love that plant players have evolved to a cult like status, where it's not even clear how we are keeping our beliefs strong and are somehow able to put in so much effort and dedication that something good happens. I love this air of reverence lmao
Absolutely hyped for Chimera to be top tier
Still waiting for Josh to acknowledge best deck dinomprphia
The way to give Centurion the push it needs into the meta is by playing the Sinful Spoils engine. It gives you ways to get into primus and/or make an omni before even committing to the board with a cent card, and ups the consistency significantly
How do you even make primus?
@@Ironpecker Deceptio, add Sacred Azamina, fuse into Mu Rcielago, search Wanted, search then summon Diabellstar, set Original, and then either activate original and send Mu Rcielago to summon jet, or if you have Cent starters, link summon a Link 2, return Sacred Azamina to hand, fuse Illia Silvera with Original and add Jet as discard fodder for Stand up
@@nordicrunes7581that line literally loses to Fuwaross
I really don't think Mimighoul auto-loses to the incidental floodgate of Impulse. None of the flip effects are so mission-critical and they have enough power baked into the xyz effects that I think they could scrape by without the primary gimmick.
HOWEVER, they still will lose to Impulse simply because 80% of their activated effects say "special summon" and all their lines have choke points it can stop.
Yeah like Impulse on throne pretty much gets rid of 2-3 interruptions on its own, it's a crazy card
Supreme king pendulum plays really well into mulchi. Double board wipes kirin bounces. Time pendulumgraph. Alot if different interruptions with 1-2 draws tops.
I forgot about kirin now being at 3
Gonna have to cook a bit and see what I get
Problem is going second, a couple of interruptions hard stop you
@edymiguel4247 dark ruler raigeki dragon abyss dweller clean up. Can also play mulchi as well.
I got 2-0d by the millennium exodia player who topped in round 7 of niagara, i was on snake-eye azamina and opened impulse both games but it turns out millennium ankh is not once per turn so im coping that the deck is good and i didn't just get dumpstered by rogue (shifter crazy card)
I think ice barrier is a solid answer to a lot of the meta decks, simply because it shuts the opponents deck down and can go for game next turn
Woohoo! Format warping staple card that forces certain decks to be unplayable! Exactly what Yugioh TCG needed!
One card combo decks end on billiok negates, YGO players: Kill the deck! Old ygo was much better!
Konami releases card that weakens said 1 card combo decks and strenghens midrange/control, YGO players: How dare they make combo unplayable!
@@mcmisterhd1920 Nice strawman you just built for yourself there. Lemme tear it down real quick. Never in the history of any card game, has a meta warping card ever been healthy for the game. This doesn't even stop combo decks, the best deck of the format are two combo decks. It just means the combo has to go into the Extra Deck less to be competitive, or be even more stupidly busted powerful to offset it. Think before you type next time.
@@monkfishy6348skill issue
@@monkfishy6348 The best deck is azamina SE (with either FK engine or not) and I would not call tenpai combo but. After that we have mostly midrange to combo. Yes theoretically in the future we could have toxic combo decks that summon few times from extra (similar to memento) but for the time being, the format is much more balanced. Also "Never in the history of any card game, has a meta warpig card ever been healthy for the game" - thats a nice argument senator, why dont you back it up with a source?
Also speaking of strawmans - I never said stops combo, I said WEAKENS which looking at Joshs tier list and YCS results you would have to be blind to deny
@@monkfishy6348I'm pretty confident your tune would change if Fuwalos was a common lol
I've played plant for years but my issue is it can't escape the Genuis Loci lines. Yes, we have Aromages to play straight into Jasmine link, we have Rikka that can overlay/negate/tribute and gain advantage but nothing is as good as Loci to start everything off.
Both aroma and rikka still lack of bodies to performing
And that's main selling of loci
I don't 100% agree with mimighoul auto-losing to Impulse. Getting hit by it hard really does suck, but it has enough extenders to play through it and can run other engines that synergizes with them to help them play through disruption better. Also I think it plays through Fuwalos really well (Granted this depends on the hand), but the jellyfish... is a different story.
When you Impulse, you can't activate the effects of the Dragon or Master on your side of the field, so they're just shut off.
@@WombatOfDisastermimighoul players don’t play dominus he’s talking about the opponent activating it
@@milestademy9276yeah, if you dominus someone they can't make you activate their mimighouls so the deck's entire gimmick falls apart and they cant do anything to you lol
@@user-jk7vp7vn2k they still have some decent plays after dominus via dungeon and the new xyz effects but for sure are HEAVLY limited
@@user-jk7vp7vn2k
Not strictly true, the field spell carries in those instances since it still floodgates while they have a set, and you can really easily put another set onto their field with the trap as an interrupt, then OTK the next turn using the direct attack thing
The answers I have found online are inconsistent but thoughts on making a video that discusses the different runick variants for the format and tiering them? Love your work.
There's not much discussion because WF is the best by quite a margin. Other variants like Bystial/Fur Hire die to Fuwalos, Bystial in particular is cope without Baronne, less competitive variants mid going first and even worse going second and then you have Stun which feels like a gambling deck since you rely on drawing the right floodgates and have to pray your opponent doesn't have the out
Chimera I want to say ranks high, but you'd probably rather just play it without Runicks since there wasn't much synergy between the two engines anyway
Thank you for this upload former world champion Josh Schmidt
Emphasis on 'former' 😂
My mans, your mic is popping like crazy.
How's Purrely weak into Fuwalos? You chain your memories to it and decide if you want to summon on resolution. Usually if they shotgun it you chain to it and give them one draw when summoning the little noir, you can also main gamma and negate it as they chain to your first memory. Turn 2+ your opponent can't use fuwalos so summoning more purrelies does nothing and a dead fuwalos is is still good for discard.
Are you really asking how purrely Is week into fuwaloss?
Unless you open garbage, youll never give more than 2 draws. So no, it's not weak into fuwa.
Oh look Josh took Sam’s advice about making the RUclips intro 👍
I know it's not on a lot of people's radar, dlink is actually quite good. With the new metalmorph cards as well as the bystials, the deck can play into fuwa. Against yubel, spheres pass with a bystial in hand anyone? Against snake-eye, it hits the Fiendsmith part of the deck. The rest comes down to technical play. Also, blue-eyes d-link is SO good. Rougher match up vs yubel but try and play fire king against a deck that has jet dragon and upwards of 2 omnis plus bystials.
The thing about plants is that under Fuwa they would give their opponent like 20 draws (as a plant player I did the math), but plants are so versatile that they don’t need to play the big combo to end on a couple interruptions while giving their opponent minimal draws. Purulia is usually a bigger issue than Fuwa at least for some plant builds. I can see 60 card plant dying down a bit and them shifting to some more slow builds.
So what, Plants play into Fuwa or they end on minimal draws, i don't understand you
@@WombatOfDisaster I’m saying plants have a line where they give Fuwa one draw, end on like 3 interruptions, and all the follow up. They can play the grind at that point.
@@Shiny_Plume oha? Could you share that with me pretty please?
@@WombatOfDisaster Well you have to start with Petal, which means you’d have to play plants that way. But honestly it’s not that bad.
Petal -> Mudan -> Field Spell -> Glamour, add the two level 4s, make strenna, detach add back Glamour, and that’s two interruptions for one draw, and you also have your hand traps and all follow up
Nothing insane, but neither is Centurion under fuwa.
Gimmick Puppet prolly won't have many tops post banlist, but i personally believe the deck is still extremely solid
as i have said on other channels YCS Anaheim is going to be my retirement event as i am going on an extended break to focus on my health and other hobbies that are less exp. and in some cases less stressful than modern Yugioh where that is on disability checks don't get a fair chance to compete using let's say more unfair tools my question is this do you think we will have another supply issue for the crossover breakers for access to the cards or is it too early to say as for the current meta my deck of choice is a relic of a bygone era with some tools to punish hand trap users in a big way
Brother…How does kash not play into perulia? Are we forgetting they need to be specialed from hand. Birth gives you an extra normal to that they love to use..
Unicorn search theosis summon fenrir pass, or make shang summon fenrir on their turn. It’s not great but it’s not like you can’t just pass on some kash monsters. Aside from the first kash monster the only real other one you’d special from hand is riseheart
Well, punk and superheavy samurai are good followups for centurion
I don’t even like voiceless voice but i think it’s being slept on.
Chimera/Azamina is also really good with Regina.
I'm still advocating for Memento, deck is crazy good, only autoloss is against shifter (not like there are too many decks that don`t auto lose to shifter), can setup crazy boards through handtraps is hyper consistent with multiple 1 and 2 card combos and various lines into different handtraps, can play fiendsmith or not and it somehow doesn't change the powerlevel too much (not entirely cope), not to mention the very good grind game with fieldspell and creation shuffle 5.
Would 100% be playing the deck IRL if it wasn`t for the fact I'm a broke 18 yo and a playset of angwitch and bone party go for something around 250$ in my country even though the rest of the deck is pennies (3x of every other card in the deck isn't even 15$)
So they basically made spright and purrely cheap on the reprints so they can later be smashed because of a couple of hand traps, that sucks.
How does pure Fire King stack up against the Snake Eyes/Azamina variant? (open question to anyone in the comments)
Pure fire king has less link climbing capabilities and is more inconsistent. Snake eyes gives FK a lot more starters that they really appreciate
@@alexc3337 And what do the Azamina cards offer? My gut feeling is that the deck might not need two whole additional engines after the addition of Ulcanix but I'm just getting back into the game after some time away so still getting caught up on the current meta lol
any thoughts on dragon link now that we have the new metalmorph cards
WoooooooooooooooooooooooooooW.........
I never even thought about that shit for mimighoul wow.... lol
Yeah I'm not even going to finish making that deck now I have the entire core sitting here I'm literally not going to sleeve it up now. Thats ROUGH...
Ive been playing chimera azamina (going pure fusion chimera) the deck is lowkey stupidly good
Chimera fusion can also be chained to Fuwaros so they don't get the draw AND they get a card ripped
That is a good play when you have what you open with the fusion materials for chimera and the spell, but that is not guaranteed.
They'll definitely activate Fuwaros on DF when you can't activate Chimera fusion tho.
So sad about mimighoul they chopped its wings off before it could fly
Im a bit surprised has nobody been able to do well with infernoids? Im not claiming its the best deck but im surprised its not even mentioned here. It has such a high ceiling with the new support and with snake eyes.
Infernoids Is a 40 cards decks with 25 bricks. It's impossible tò make a solid list.
@francescolofaro8258 not really true it's actually a 60 card deck. You play 15 infernoids plus the 3 decatron. It has decent board break potential and woth snake eye plus diabell it has a very high ceiling going first. It was definitely better previous format though before the new mulcharmy card. Honestly though it can compete though and it's definitely better than a few decks on the list. Remember I'm not saying its the best but it's OK
Sadly I’m priced out. That’s a shame because I’ve always wanted chimera to be good.
you rated memento fine last time, fs still gets into engine. issue is that fs memento plays worse into fuwalos but pure's ceiling and going 2nd is worse
Is the TCG going to be playing the mini Maxx C mini game?
They've been playing a handtrap minigame ever since Crossout Designator came out. Snake-Eye gaining traction just made it easier to notice.
@earthteamjordan did a incredible azamina white forest deck that will get even better with SUDA
Salamangreat main moment
Centur-ion supremacy
Centurion vs labrynth. Who would you play? @joshua
Centur-ion stonks 📈
Centurión pure ? Yubel , rescue ace? Witch fiendsmitch also
22:48 yes me summon 600 def normal monster like its alleister the invoker and i havent used my normal summon yet
we need red reboot back
What about vanquish ? Shifter deck, max 2 draw from fuwa if you have stake
The deck doesn’t do enough and negating raizen is rough. Doesn’t it play really hard in purulia?
dark world never gets attention on these videos, i'm playing danger dark world this weekend for regionals. I made the meta call to remove the fiendsmith package because of fuwalos.
Yes because it’s probably the deck the most weak to shifter in the history of the game
@@user-vg1fb6ow7ylol also weak to droll
No mention of drytron?
I think he mentioned it exactly as many times as it deserves
@@GrantRobertPotterhave you seen its new usage? That dude is ignorant and puts fucking exodia inside this deck before the ritual apollousa.
So uh
Is fiendsmith completely dead?
For me, azamina Is too op
So yes
@@bengialbiero6929 i mean you can run both... i'm more concerned with dominus impulse
what about Vanquish Soul? it is realy solid against fuwalos i think
Please Konami…give us more Vanquish soul cards lol
Yes, but it also can't really use fuwalos either.
did you forget the part where vs literally doesn't end on anything? why do you care about whether it's good into a generic 3-of when it loses to itself?
damn no mention on goblin biker
I HATE saying this. But the deck is just ass.
@@trippersigs2248 as someone whose player it since before eit came out, the engine is very strong. I'd say it's right under rogue. It's a spell trap negate away from being rogue
As a goblin player I have to say every other engine is better lmao
@@elgoblino4188 then your playing it wrong, trust me a bad pilot makes the deck look dog shit. I can tell you a bad pilot by you saying every other engine is better
@@TheAlphaMaG"I'm right and if you disagree it's because you're bad" if a deck is "right under rogue" it's bad.
I feel like voiceless needs like 1 or 2 more support cards to really be viable it just currently has too much brick potential and choke points
The newest 2 support cards are a fucking joke, especially because neither works good with the previous ones.
@@Goku-zu3rkThe continuous spell and trap? I can understand the trap but the continuous spell is powerful
@chewdoom8415 no, the new saffira ritual and the trap that summons a normal skull guardian
@@Goku-zu3rk ooooh yeah. I forgot about the new ritual, she's the one that came in the same set as the continuous spell. I don't disagree with your point
@chewdoom8415 that new ritual is not mentioned on most cards, hence can't be special summoned from the deck. Also, the old safira ritual can handrip on your end phase, whereas the new one can only do that on attack. And the trap is just a normal attack boost, that you don't need anyway.
Where is the new drytron? He is underestimating that deck. Gots tons of room for handtraps now, has one card combos, can play through handtraps too and put in solid boards now with even an ritual apollousa.
The kashtira purrely deck that got top 16 at Lille is great into fuwalos.
Same as runick you can chain your quickplays to fuwalos.
Generally i give my opponent 1 draw.
Impulse hurts so i get your placement,but i would rank it higher(a bit)!
Centur-ion 🔥🥰
Should Centur-Ion plays more board breaker since it is weak to big boards ?
if there is no mention of dogmatika ritual i'm unsubscribing
“Why isn’t my rogue deck included in a meta-relevant tier list?”
Feels like I’m playing master duel. So not fun
Completely of topic but can we get Meow Mu back with fuwalos in the format?
Meow Mu could have been back for a LONG time. Konami just forgot about it just like how Harp Horror took 5 years to come back.
Why is salad on this list?
Glad beast sss+
Y’all are over hyping wanna be maxx c. Can’t use it going first. Still gotta shuffle. Going second card which means you gotta break boards. What do I know
27:37 PREACH!!! I’m so tired of hearing this logic, you don’t need a billion negates to make a strong end board
ok but what do u think of naturia runick. is it still viable?
Voiceless could use another maindeck starter/extender.
man vanquish soul must be sh*t
Sharks?
Strong rouge but lose to mulcharmy and shifter very hard i think
@@bengialbiero6929 I mean if we know we playing against we can just side in bagooska
Konami: hey let’s make a good TCG exclusive archtype.
Also Konami: hey let’s also make a card that makes it where our decent TCG exclusive archtype unplayable.
What about ice barrier?
My favourite deck it's good deck in the meta
I guess Memento pure endboard IS AS strong AS Memento fiendsmith and fuwalos doesnt hur at all. 2-3 draws. If i Play full Combo 4-5 and If i Play my funny Combo with pair a dice smasher IT would also be 4-5. And you can Instant ein against everyone with 90% Chance i guess.und der Bindestrich sagt nur aus, ob man mit DARK Blade oder mit der Hexe anfängt ändert fast nichts, aber wäre ein Draw mehr. Yeah english Lacks sometimes😂
Chat obviously doesnt know how to play vv
Personally hate fuwalos, prolly taking a break from Yu-Gi-Oh for a while
Why is this little friend more scary then shifter? 1. You dont draw it everytime and 2. You could draw bricks with it
Even shifter becomes a brick when you draw it after resolving mulchummies and therefore being in the grave
not every deck can play shifter but every deck can play mulcharmy
Ninja best deck
Plants will rule one day
ban crimson dragon and ceturion will go into shit tier
Cmon Josh at least give six Sam enough respect for meh !
I’m just here to say that I hate Centur-ion and that’s all.
Are YCS tops an actually good indicator of a deck's power level? People keep using it as a barometer for deck strength, but like, because of the poor prize pool, surely people are attending these events with high powered decks they want to play and just making the best of that, rather than taking the absolute strongest decks out there. I'm just saying, I don't think the format is solved enough that "Oh, all the best players are playing this deck," is accurate to determining power level.
As a casual player looking into the competitive scene from the outside, having been with Yugioh since 5DS, we make a lot of wrong assumptions about what's going to be good or bad. And while we are better now, it's still not perfect. I mean, who knows, if all the people repping Yubel committed their time to Illusion Chimera instead, they might perform better, but they WANT to play Yubel instead. If anything, the only thing YCS tops can teach us is who among the players are the strongest.
competitive event result is like literally the only way to judge the metagame. if the decks are able to top consistently with many result per event, then they will widely be considered as meta. if the result drop after several events, then it's not strong enough to compete. it's as simple as that. top players play test a lot of different deck for the format, so the process of determining the best deck isn't that easy. prize also can be a determining factor but it doesn't hugely affect the competitive result as many event topping decks are still expensive with many high-price staples.
it's true that judging the format when it's still young isn't a right move, but we at least get an early indication which one will most likely stay relevant. it's also true that playerbase miss some good deck back then when we start to apply modern decks building in traditional format. but that's what the playerbase of that time decide based on their knowledge the same way we're currently doing. and it's fair since we can't do anything with that.
but we can't deny that the competitive result is the best reference to determine the metagame and there's indeed a definitive best deck or meta contender for specific format.
Yubel already top tier in master duel why is it so low now??? We got a (slightly) worse MAXX C?
Because in MD you play the actual Yubel while in TCG is simply Fiend Link with a yubel engine.
@@babradThats also the way yubel plays in MD (spirit gates and unchained packages), TCG just has fiendsmith as an additional engine
And HERO's?
yubel fiendsmith is a crap
Drytron cope
Why are you speak so loud
first
I don’t care, i will just play drytron as in My local Monster negates are the way to go
Who?
The way to go. Those people ignore how well this deck performs now.
Got the kitchen table meta on point.
I disagree with centr-ion being that high. Deck is ok, deck plays ok into fuwaloss, however, deck is dreadful vs other hand traps in format like impulse, nibiru, ogre and veiler, impermanence when paired with another one.
And those are actually seeing play. You need actual power to compete, not only being good into fuwalos.
The more the format develops, the less viable centur-ion will be
You are right. It was just really good positioned this ycs because a lot of people were still on breakers from the previous format making it the ideal format for centurion
I would be very surprised if pak sticks with centurion next ycs
Being good against fuwalos is not it's only quality, the deck can extend through handtraps and specially with the new support the quality of your average endboard is drastically better than before considering you easily set up two blazars now. The amount of starters you can run including bonfire makes it really consistent too. Shifter isn't a huge deal either as well purulia. Just the best low floor/low ceiling midrange deck out there that can't really gas through boards like other decks can which is why it isn't in that best deck of the format territory imo
I think Fuwalos has been over-sensationalised; the card is powerful, but I don't think it's gonna be the card to ruin the format.
Dominus Impulse, on the other hand, is horrible for the game - just simply rules out a lot of strategies from consideration, and if you run a deck that can't play it due to the Attribute-lock, then you are at a SIGNIFICANT disadvantage.
Both are horrible.