Yamaha DTX10K Electronic Drum Kit | In-depth demonstration
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2021
- Graham Russell & Simon Edgoose take a look at the latest offering from @YamahaDrumsEurope the new DTX10K.
"DTX flagship model that boasts the beauty of real drums"
The DTX10 series is the flagship of the DTX lineup, combining the functionality of electronic drums with the sheer beauty of their acoustic counterparts.
Featuring real drum sounds and real room ambience recorded in world renowned studios, playability that allows you to create sounds intuitively, inspiring feel and expressiveness, and the true beauty of real birch shells with the same finishes used on acoustic drums, the DTX10 series was born from the technology and sensibilities that Yamaha has cultivated over its many years of crafting drums.
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the guy on the right doesn't look excited 😂
Wow a massive upgrade it is totally cutting-edge.
These kits are very exciting indeed. Do listen to this vid on some decent headphones. Mind you, the condenser vocal audio mics are picking Graham’s heavy breathing up a treat 😉😉
I look forward to a trip down to GRD again soon for a play around on the DTX-8 & 10. 👍
Great demo - even GH seems to like what he sees & hears!
This is the kind of video I was looking for regarding this kit. I was really curious how they pulled these sounds off so thank you for making this!! I would recommend muting the mic for whoever is not talking, so you don't pick up the respiratory failure of the guy trying to breathe, and it kind of feels like the guy on the right wants to die the entire time in this video so there's that. But this is great thank you for making this!!
They need to pull back the ambiance on that nose whistle.
I need this kit. Love the sounds and TCS pads. I currently play the DTX Pro 6 kit, with a few upgrades, but loving this with the real wood and Pro X module.
Same , absolutely love the Pro X module, Yamaha really came out swinging with these kits. No way I could afford the whole kit, I’ll be incredibly blessed if I could just afford the module alone
Guys I've heard from quite a few people that the 10-mile jewel is really not that much better than the 6. I don't know if that's true and I'm sure there's more editing with the 10 but I feel like it might not be that much better
Best review of the dtx10k that I've seen. Answered all my questions and then some. Thanks for taking the time to put together a very informative review on this new kit from Yamaha.
I love electronic kits.
I have to admit, when Yamaha first announced these kits I was a bit non-plussed. They look similar to their original DTX kits and didn't seem like much of a step up. This demo definitely changed my mind. The kits sound excellent and many of the features are things I would definitely use. The "not polite" song at the end made the kit shine. Well done!
Thank you Kurt. That track was originally only written as a filler, but it turned out to be fairly popular so I started using it more. Thanks for watching
@@edruminfo Are the two backing tracks you use in this video available online anywhere?
@@waynewilliams3376 Those are tracks I wrote specifically for the DTX8/10 launch. I reckon I can put the on RUclips to be downloaded in the future but I want to use them for promotional events before that. So short answer, is yes, eventually, but not yet I'm afraid. Thanks for the interest though - I'm always surprised when people like the tracks I write/program!
@@waynewilliams3376 Hi Wayne. I did reply to this a couple of days ago, but it appears to have disappeared into the ether. I wrote those tracks just for the 8DTX8 and 10 launch, and I'm going to use them when we can actually get out there and do public demos and the like again. However, after that I'm sure I can put them on RUclips or somewhere so they can be downloaded. So, short answer is yes, eventually, but not yet. Its always nice when someone likes something I've written/programmed so thank you.
@@edruminfo Thanks Simon. I bought the DTX10 after watching this video, sounds great. Please do let me know if you ever make them available.
Simon Edgoose has to be the best Representative of Yamaha Electronic drums ever. They have had great reps too. Simon is another level.
Graham Russell and Yamaha DTX10, I know I'm in good hands.
The best E-kit ever! Groundbreaking!🥁🔥
Absolutely killer.
Superb
As always Simon is stellar in his knowledge and presentation
I would love this, well done Yamaha ! 👍👏
Will definitely buy this one to upgrade my dd75. Thanks for the review. 👍
amazing beautifull drum
great demo.
Thank you!
That's such a step up
For a couple of years I was running MIDI from my dtxpro to Superior Drummer. I loved the sounds out of SD and in particular the overhead mics. I actually went so far as to route the overhead mic out to a separate fader so I could control it live. But it's a lot of gear to toss around and more points in the sound chain for something to go wrong. Soon as Simon started talking about the room ambience that was the selling point for me to upgrade to the DTX10. I've found those room mics make all the difference in getting a quality drum sound, no amount of fiddling with EQ or other effects will do it. It's those room mics you want. And those controls for the mixer for live are fantastic. Yes!!! Way to go Simon for your input on this module and to Yamaha for making this happen.
Thank you Tom! Pleased you like it!
@@edruminfo Simon, can I really get any sound out of this drum kit? I like a really dirty 70's Funk sound but I also would like a wide-open Tony Williams Bonham type of sound. Also, I want really fast drum and bass stuff in the style of Yusef days without sounding corny! 😂
I use both Roland and Yamaha DTX Pro . . . what I miss most with the Yamaha is the "Copy Pad" feature that allows you to construct user kits with different parts of different kits quickly :(
I think Yamaha has finally broken the Roland glass ceiling. If I was in the market for a new electronic kit, Yamaha would be the one. This is coming from a guy who has bought Roland gear since the 80’s.
Yamaha has probably one of the best modules out there atm., already got their cymbals and some modified mesh cans that give me positional detection in SD3, so think the modul itself will be all I would need to both have a good interface to my software as having some direct sounds usable for jam sessions.
Thing that really makes the module shine is that Yamaha didn't limit it to their own hardware.
Nice, just got 2box drumit5 mk2, which i like, but this yamaha module might be even better
I hope those new pads be compatible with previous Yamaha modules, I would like to upgrade the snare drum pad from my Yamaha DTX700 🙏
As a guitar and keyboard player, I'm curious to hear what drummers think about e-drums. They seem to be all over RUclips but I don't see anybody playing live with them. Are e-drums better at certain aspects of playing than others?
Is the in-depth video for the DTX8 coming soon? You guys talk about it in this video and mention a subsequent video about the DTX8, but I see not, this subsequent video. I cannot afford the DTX10 sadly, so the DTX8 is my only maybe-hope . . . . .
Does anyone know why mesh heads on the snare won't give us positional sensing? That's what I've heard.
Is it expandable? Can I add extra pads? I play a big kit
Are you using the mesh pad or the TCS pad for the kit in this video?
Can i add the snare to my DTX6 pro module?
Hey Simon, so I know that internally, the DTX8 kick pad and the 10 are the same but the 10 is covered in mesh and the 8 in rubber, but do you notice a difference in feel between the two?
Absolutely want this kit. Im a big fan of td-27, the dtx pro X module is an absolute beast. The sounds are fantastic imo and the kit modifier knobs along with the analog sliders are straight 🔥. Wish it had more storage capacity, however Yamaha don’t seem to think that is very important feature on their gear: example dtx multi 12 pad w/0nly 128/64 mbs
I hear where you are coming from Matt, but Yamaha's thinking it that you can swap out the complete memory using the 'Save All' function, so you aren't just limited to 256mb. If you want to trigger plug in samples, then take a laptop, but these kits were designed to use the (really good) internal sounds, and only use your own multi layer samples (which take up the space) for particular 'signature' instruments. The M12 is very old now (it was one of the first products I worked on with Yamaha) so it can really be compared to modern devices. Many manufacturers now use SD cards for their memory which are cheap but also variable in performance. Yamaha doesn't do that - they use hard wired memory which is 100% reliable, but also more expensive. It's a trade off between price and reliability but that is how they have always done it.
@@edruminfo You not wrong about that. I have an Alesis strike multipad and the Cheap SD card they used in it got bad sectors on it and the pad would freeze starting up/turning off. Alesis did not give pad a usb mass hard drive mode, so if files go bad you have to open up unit and take the sd card out off of the motherboard. Definitely not a good design choice there. I’ve been learning to use My daw more and using my pads to trigger over usb midi to get around onboard storage issues. Absolutely love your gear reviews and break downs. Your deep wealth of knowledge about these products is so nice. You definitely break things down so they are easy to understand and that is greatly appreciated. Hopefully I will be making the move over to Yamaha gear this year. The new gear they are putting out is imo a home run and worth making the switch.
@@mattryan6886 Well, thank you for the kind words Matt. Really appreciated.
Came here looking for info on recording with the module. There's nothing in this video that isn't on the website.
Why wouldn't you ask the real questions we actually want to know? Like, can we adjust individual pad notes? Can we adjust velocity? Are those adjustments available on the Pro?
No channel has info on any of the number of kits on the market and it prevents me from upgrading my DTX500 - which desperately needs an upgrade. So dissapointed.
Good
I do love the sound of this kit. I know also the Hardware and Pads are gonna be built for heavy use. I do wonder though, how does the module make a click track to a tune which has multiple tempos and signatures.
Hi Stephen.
There is actually three ways that module can control backing tracks. The first one is the one you see here where the module generates the click for a constant tempo track.
There is another one where you can play tracks off the USB drive with the track on one side and the click on the other. The module routes the track and the click through to the headphones but it just sends the track out in mono through an output. There’s another way as well which involves Ableton or something similar but I’ll post a video about that sometime soon.
Thanks for watching.
@@edruminfo Thanks for the reply. TBH in real world applications, I would prefer a separate device for tracks. At the moment I use a Mac with Logic for tracks (I know I know, I should migrate over to Abelton Live, everyone tells me) and it's worked fine for years. In logic I have separate tracks for the instruments in the backing track, the idea being, if something isn't cutting it, I can just add some automation, rather than remixing it.
On the mimic I have the option to play a stereo track plus another stereo click track simultaneously, all from a USB, which is a nice feature. The downside, there's no auto pause, so you have to quickly press "stop" between songs so the singer can have a waffle.
@@steevidrums Go Ableton! Yes, it IS the way forward and IMO the best DAW for drummers on so many level (and other musicians of course, but they don't count... literally..!).
@@edruminfo I tried to get into it years ago, and meh.. I know it's awesome, especially for looping sections and making structures on the fly... but I am not doing any of that. Song structures are as is. Besides, I am 150 songs in with the band set on Logic, to migrate over to Albelton would take a HELL of a lot of work, for the same result I am getting now.
@@steevidrums I know what you mean. If you are just using it for playback, and not creation, then probably best to continue, but there is nothing to stop you just having another look at it (on the side, but you aren't cheating on Logic, honest!) and messing around until you realise how much more it can do. But I totally understand how you feel.
4:20~30 this man doesn't give a damn. But I love it, he reminds me of top gear lol. Im gonna get dtx8 with silicon thats the sweetspot I think
Really? What makes you think that?
@@edruminfo His face is very sceptical. You don't see that? ..by the that's fine, (actually makes it more likeable somehow) it just appears like it, but he might be just tired OR if you drink enough whisky you gonna be stuck in this expression :-D
What are we looking at for module latency with these new modules?
I've just recently learned that my DTX700 has approx 6ms latency from hitting the pad to what the module outputs. Has this number been improved with the new modules?
The DTX700 comes in at 9ms, both Pro and Pro X modules are coming in at 6ms which is around 30% faster than the previous releases. Considering Yamaha modules use real multi layered audio samples recorded in top-end studios, I think those statistics are very impressive!
The Roland kits come in slightly quicker however they don't use real audio samples, the sounds are generated from a sine-wave. The biggest test for me was getting to sit down and try the kit for myself, it's okay to look at latency as a number but the latency is now so minimal it isn't very distinguishable anymore, anything under 10ms isn't really perceivable.
@@Grahamrusselldrums Thanks for the reply. I've looked high and low for these numbers online and in the manuals. Where are they found?
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Is it still easy to trigger say Superior Drummer in the DAW?
Theres already a preset in SD3 for these kits, so just select the correct MIDI map and away you go.
"If you want to trigger Lars Ulrich's bass drum sound you can load it in", Guy on the right: "no I'm alright, thank you" 🤣 08:26
Ya, the dude asking questions was doing lotsa MOCKING!! lol
How do i play at Home? Do i need a Roland drum monitor or similar?
Hi, you can use headphones with a quarter inch jack adapter or a monitor would also work if you want to be able to hear yourself in the room.
Why doesn't that interviewer make eye contact?😂
Breath deep...
Can’t imagine why anyone would choose a Roland over this.
The drum sounds are so amazing and Roland is so horrible. I have a Roland and have tried all of them now and their sounds are bad compared to every brand out there.
Roland is living off of their name. People are afraid of electric kits because they wear our and break. It’s the number 1 fear when you spend this much money
Acoustic kits are not like that. All you care about is sound
Drummers will buy used 40 year old acoustic in a hard beat, because they last forever and when they have issues it’s cheap to fix them.
People feel safe with Roland. Other than that, Yamaha, Pearl and Alesis blows them out of the water
E-drums are the future. In 10-15 years the electronics are better than acoustics :D
Dude that's not playing looks like he's about to fall asleep.
Nop, it still doesn't sound real.