Why Do Slow Teams Stay In F1?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- What does a team that does badly in F1 races have to gain from being in the sport? Is there any reason?
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Seems as though the 3:20 clip was so good it broke that part of the video 😅
You can find the history of F1 teams here: ruclips.net/video/uA4xcZYVFTg/видео.html
No worries, I only had a mild heart attack when I thought my PC broke.
Dont Worry, We thought It was a Special Pause Effect.
@@NomadUniverse Same here, can't imagine losing my GPU especially now amidst this scarcity.
Bazinga
I thought there was no such video and it was a deliberate joke
Brawn GP: 100% championship win rate
Lol
Damn, that's actually a record that can't be beaten
Mercedes domination for years couldnt even match brawns score. Rookies lmao
Marcus Winkelhock lead every Race he drove in Formula 1
But they didn't they cleverly cheat with double diffusers
Sponsorship also keeps teams like Williams afloat as well as there is a clause where teams get a extra bonus at the end of the year for being a “legacy team”
It's kinda sketchy that ferrari and Williams get legacy payments. Other major teams get big payments to stick around. Donut media did a good piece on the financial aspects
@@yarkobroda they really did a good piece on that haha
@@yarkobroda yeah its called the exploitative nature of capitalism
A third of this video is an add, so it's not just F1 teams.
@@christiankane5802 😱
Actually Frank Williams Racing Cars team did'nt score 0 points. They scored half a point with Lella Lombardi. The first woman to score a point in f1. This happened in the 1975 spanish gp. That's because the race was permanently red flagged and in that moment Lombardi was in p6 so she recived not one but just half a point.
ah yes i remeber that, heard that from a man named Josh Revell
oh yeah i read about this on f1 fandom, i was reading about the 5 races that were permanently ended and half points were awarded and one of the race was the 1975 spanish gp where she managed to made this terrific achievement
@@swapnade4347 As an italian I knew this before that video came out. The equivalent of nowdays 4 points!
Lombardi wasn’t racing for Williams then, she was in a factory backed March. She did race for Williams at the season ending US GP but did not start.
You are correct, however, that FWRC did score points, in fact they scored a total of 12 with a further 23 points being awarded to the constructors of the cars frank raced (Brabham and March)
Poor research all round
Belgian GP tried to do the same
Other pretty classic reasons include brands and people doing their sweet money laundering in sports, or simply because, even if all teams are aiming for the win, sometimes being the 4th, 5th best is still a great result. It's like getting a 4th or 6th in an Olympic sport, you're still up there among the best. And that might still mean plenty of sponsorship money.
Love your art
Plus, you get to push technological limits.
ha eu te sigo no twitter tua arte eh masaa
“What’s the point?”
Williams and Haas: *idk we don’t have that*
Williams is just Williams. A very long history and it has to be here. Haas is just Haas. Money, Uralkali, Rich Energy (which was actually poor)
@@kolec5075 Poor Energy
underrated comment tho XD
Just haas now.
Williams part aged really well
More interesting than why is HOW they stay. The 80's and 90's were really the golden age of the backmarkers.
When Teams could be lapped 7 times and be 10 seconds slower a lap.
Teams were swimming in that tobacco money too.
Man, the 90s and 00s with Marlboro, West, Bensen & Hedges, etc.
@@TheBrass18 And yet budgets are 10x higher today than in the 90s. With inflation they should be only twice as high
@@adampetten5349 it made for great wheel to wheel racing... if you missed schumacher lap someone the first time, you could see the battle again in a few laps... lol
80s and 90s seem to be the golden age age every sport. Glad I was able to see part of it
I mean, nxt year HOPEFULLY things will change for them
Especially Williams, and I don't want George to leave Williams, just imagine Williams become GOD-TIER and he leaves
Yeah imagining Williams become god tier is fuqing sick
Williams have admitted the chances are low for them becoming even a mid field team due to lack of funds. And George is a Mercedes driver, it will be better for him to be in Mercedes than a Williams haha. Let's see what Mercedes have decided between Bottas and Russel!
@@notshubhransh a recent interview with George kinda revealed he might have signed with Mercedes
@@toad3222 yeah, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed about hiding or nor revealing something lmao. Let's see that will Russel easily comply with team orders or we will se Hamilton vs Rosberg 2.0 hahha
Would be great
I for one LOVE the fact that Williams and Haas are sticking around. Who doesn't love an underdog story? If there is 1 special moment people remember from recent years its Markus Winkelhock leading a race for a brief moment. Who didn't enjoy Mick Shumacher duking it out today with his garbage Haas? That was properly exciting. And Williams actually scored points! I love it.
Brawn GP didn’t build the car Honda did, it was only through Brawn being able to appeal to Mercedes that the BGP 001 was as competitive as it was, hondas engines were pretty shite in 2008
How have you got to the point about appealing to Mercedes? I thought the story was the top dogs at Honda f1 didn't want to give up when their sponsor left; as they thought they might be onto something so stayed to see the car they had already designed compete? As the team was failing financially it was always going to be sold off for a low price, I thought Mercedes only got involved after they could see what the car could do and how it would work well moving forward in the kers era.
@@davidcheeseman658 i don’t really know. the story i heard from the ‘Brackley Boys’ ep of the Beyond the Grid was that Ross Brawn appealed to the engine manufacturers to try and keep the team in the grid and took the offer from mercedes
although apparently Ferrari and Renault both offered as well which is a nice story of F1 camaraderie. My main point was that Honda put like 200mn into that car so it wasn’t necessarily all Brawn’s work like the vid implies
@@tesseract_uk I think they definitely looked for sympathetic supplier offers but I'm not sure the Mercedes supply deal was exactly a done buy out deal! My only source is knowing Gary savage at the time when this was all happening. The impression I got was they were all very relieved when Mercedes offered to buy without a management change as they were a bit up the creek. Although I wonder if this was more relief for their jobs than it was for an offer at all 😂
As for your final point it's a iffy one as the team from Honda were mostly still there (I think mostly through commitment to the astonishingly fast car). so did brawn gp do Honda favour by racing the car they had funded or Honda do brawn go a favour by funding the car?
@@tesseract_uk The decisive point for the Mercedes engine was that it was the best fit for the "Honda" of all those offered, and thus required the least work to adapt to the chassis.
That sponsor is so gross, holy crap.
A quarter of this video about sponsorship is literally sponsorship.
For a shady ass game too.
@@georgebull7526 Some weird blockchain shit
Considering how low the graphics are, it probably does some mining while you play too 🙃
@@georgebull7526 thats an NFT so u know that shit is BS
Looks absolutely terrible.
I feel bad for guenther, having to let go of grosjean and kevin who were able to get points sometimes
He fok smashed his door
Brawn wasn’t exactly a smaller team tho - they had 100mil from Honda + entirety of last year’s Honda budget and manpower + the best engine on the grid from Merc
I really want the Williams team to do well. I even want to see them in the top 5 area. Unfortunately they need more funding. They can't compete with Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, etc. These teams also seem to have unlimited funding like the Illusive Man from the Mass Effect series.
I’m so glad Williams have finally got enough points to get to P8 this year after such a long drought, and even more glad that McLaren have almost returned to the top after their serious issues a few years ago.
I would love for Porsche to join F1
I think that they will probably join after the engine regulations in 25/26
@@ttv_mxr_btw_sweatytryhard6824 need those Germans back. We need Bmw especially back. They were amazing with Montoya. And we need audi as well.
@@car-enthusiast3141 Not going to happen as long as F1 is running on combustion engines. Even M Performance cars are going to be fully electric in the near future, there won't be a combustion M4/M3 anymore, so I highly doubt that they would rejoin the F1, it just wouldn't make sense.
@@darrenlau1412 Lamborghini was in F1 as an engine supplier at one point quite a long while ago. I am not sure about Porsche but I feel they must've participated or contributed in some way or another too. But yeah, a full fledged official team under these makes would be amazeballs
Porsche is on formula E. Unfortunately, to me E seems boring.
That sponsor seems like a massive scam.
Yeah who watches it and thinks "ohhh making money by playing a game. That totally doesn't sound like a scam!!!"
The whole "you have to be quick since there is massive interest so be quick to or you miss out" is a major major major red flag.
@@jeltje50 but people watch other cars and buy into a drink that makes them fat and sick making them fly. :-D
The entry fee for new teams is actually more expensive than the cost cap.
Not to mention the fact that repairs and component replacements count towards the cost cap.
3:20 nice clip bro
Too good to handle
The part about Frank Williams Racing cars scoring zero points wasn’t true, the ISO Marlboro got a few points in 1973 and Piers Courage got Frank’s privateer car to 2nd at Monaco and USA in 1969
I always had a soft spot in my heart for Minardi. Passion-fueled, perennial underdogs; the last of the olde-tyme garagistas.
0:29 Matt: "it's $145 million it's hardly pocket change"
Daddy Mazepin: *Casually shakes out $200mil whenever his servant does his laundry*
Wonder what spins more , the laundry or his soon.
Well, the answer didn't convinced me. I think, and many will disaprove, the big teams are secretly founding the smaller ones not just Red Bull, to have some sparring parters on track, cars to test new parts, and to train future top drivers.
There Haas to be a reason
Q1: if poor teams dont have enough money to develop a fast car that can be competitive, then why enter a race.
Q2: why are slow cars required to let faster cars lap them? All cars should be allowed to race and all race cars should learn to deal with slow cars in front of them.
A1: Profit. You don't want to start a team that bleeds money, and there's plenty of money given without having to win it all. Plus F1 is not fun if there's only 2-3 team that race every GP.
A2: It's really more of sportsmanship, like how you can't just block everyone that try to pass you in the corner (to pass in the corner you need to pick a 'lane' so if the front guy taking the inside lane you pass from the outside lane, but at the same time the front guy are not allowed to switch to the outer lane to block you)
Bring back customer teams! Let teams buy and race full cars made by other teams.
Also, no more having to pay millions just to be able to start a team. That's just a nasty way for the big teams to ensure they don't have competition.
Making it cheaper to enter f1 = more teams = more seats = more chances for less well known drivers to get into f1.
Backmarkers must be supported by the top four teams or there would only be eight cars each race. Also, when a business is always in the red and they continue to manage to stay open for business then the term "money laundering" comes into play. Backmarker is just a fancy name for "Mule".
Thank You for the video…
My question is why are the slow teams so slow compared with the others???
Sponsorship matters so much I F1 that even WTF1 uses sponsors
It could help level the teams, giving more money to bottom teams so they can develop better cars, and top teams less money as they already have one. Similar as done in other sports. Crazy idea I know
F1 Should use an American Format to garantice equality. The Worst team gets the most money and the champion the less, because that helps the small and slow teams to develop meanwhile the winning teams have the title and a more valuable brand for the sponsoring. It's a win-win
Love your content but right at 3:54 when you said before you go I immediately closed the window no disrespect just don't subject myself to ads
you could ask the same of sports teams who dont have success in general
Ready for Hyuandai/Kia to step up. I know it won’t happen… but sheesh - they’re stepping up their brand in the US… so I can only imagine if they jumped in.
Well Williams barely scored 3 points in 2013, only to score I think something like 6 or 9 podiums, in 2014. So there are ways things can turn around
Brazilian driver Roberto Moreno said that, when he was racing for Andrea Moda in 92, strange things would happen if he got close to qualifying. Those days, you had pre-qualifying.
Eventually, the son of the team owner basically told him: it costs x million dollars to our family if you get to the race, and we can’t afford that.
3:20 what happened there? The video is corrupted for me
Just thinking: Maybe there should be a Promotion/Relegation competition, in Motorsport. Come up with a new feeder series to F1 open to commercial manufacturers(Porsche, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, etc) and the Champions of that series get promoted to F1, along with 2nd place and the lowest 2 teams in F1 gets relegated. Those 2 teams would receive a prize sum to put towards their next season in F1, and the relegated teams gets parachute payments. I don't know how or if it could work, but it's just an idea.
It's not like that F1 is a hole where you throw money in and don't get stuff. Backmarkers have their fans, because it's still entertaining. Fans that only for the big teams do buy standard Merch but true fans do buy more and expensive stuff. I've looked into the shop of Mick and oh boy does it get expensive. Sure Shirts and caps are cheap but a helmet replica or a model car?
Their Research and Development compartment is also important. For Haas they can show of their CNC Machines. Mercedes does have one, as seen in a RUclips video of them. A race fan does not care about it. Companies who do need CNC Machines do see how reliable their cars are and may buy a Haas Machine.
Wasn't it Williams who build a different KERS System with a flywheel and sold it?
There are teams that only came as an expensive hobby but the companies who stay, won't go away so fast, because they are not winning.
Sure there is RedBull who is nearly everywhere and throw a lot of money into it for big advertising.
Here in Germany Redbull bought a European football team. It was in the 5th league and now it is in the 1st League. The team is called RB Leipzig and due to rules, it doesn't mean Redbull.
Do you think that the new rules for next year that will even up the sporting regulations and financial side of things will make it much easier for a new team to join and establish itself?
That thumbnail, money and Mazespin LMAO
me :- GEORGE RUSSEL 2021 HUNGARIAN GRADN PRIX is the best example for hope (some may say that the car does not desrve that 2nd place but george russel is an exceptional driver)
No Brawn did not find a gap in the regulations and built an incredible car, Honda did. The car that became the Brawn was designed way in advance of Honda deciding to sell up. What Brawn did was get the engine deal, that really helped make the difference.
yikes at the sponsor of this vid
I love how in the original 80s transformers had both a p34 and a ligier
Can you make a video on Sebastians disqualification today. I don’t quite understand what happened
Nice video, but promoting that NFT stuff at the end is kind of icky
Bonus points for using a clip of WWE's Bayley at 0:58
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Even the 'slow cars' will torch the fastest race legal non F1 cars like the Porsche 919 and Toyota TS040.
I thought you has something useful to say but you literally just laid out all the obvious reasons
There has to be at least 10 teams, hopefully no one is allowed to fail at this point
how often do you see the current 10 teams being replaced
haas on the thumbnail for this video then get p5 constructors
Plot twist. Haas is actually good now
Funny the thumbnail uses haas as an example
Formula One ebbs and flows. You never know when you’re a rule change away from a championship. Especially now with a very affordable price cap.
And then Mercedes wins again....
0:50 Williams now: Traditions
is there a video explaining, why dont all the grid get points? doesn make sense to finish 11th or 20
And then Mercedes bought Brawn GP and became the most dominant team in history.
Seems to me there is a lot more to that story than just the loophole in the regulations which Brawn abused.
4:59 Albert Park = Hong Kong
this week’s race underscores the dream is always alive.
Ah NFT , such heady times
Haas stopped development didn't develop there car in 2021 much at all to focus on the 2022 car
Nowadays most teams are either competing teams of junior teams for the competing teams. So, pretty much those slow junior teams stay because they serve their purpose of trying out and giving experience to younger drivers.
Love the shout out to Bayley
How do you guys get licenses for all those mini clips from cartoons and films? Surely that blasts through any earnings from a video and then some
10 seconds or less is fair use, no payment needed
Miss these back marker teams
Wishing the best for the underdogs, they deserve better.
@2:35 is this car sponsored by eros ramazzotti ?
we will end with 5 official teams, and 5 B/junior teams. Not much difference on what we have now.
Meanwhile Andretti is like HEY F1 I HAVE EVERYTHING READY FOR A TEAM!!.. F1 like fuck off Andretti.. Makes no sense at all..
Not interested in NFT’s or blockchain. But the premise of Revv is definitely interesting.
Rev Racing devs need to understand this isnt the 90s
That Caterham nose tho. gachiHYPER
I was pondering this question as I was watching drive to survive..
Idk still have hope?
I can’t wait for a level financial playing field in F1. Hamilton has gotten far too big for his britches, and as much as I like Redbull, I’d like to see more variety on the podium.
There is a budget for all teams this year.
I'd gone by 4:00 - apologies, watching a practice session
Hey
Can you make a video for how to start a f1 team
Why F1 only have 4 engine supplier??
Frank Williams Racing Cars:
0 wins
0 podiums
0 points
1 fastest lap ;)
It's the stupid F1 model that punishes lower teams to stay lower. They can pay to just 1 team to develop an engine and everyone can use it.
The redundancy of research at least among lower teams is simply stupid. Not only it will save money but also entertain fans for excellent battle in mid tier with almost equal cars.
Nice Bayley reference there
Who here wish that hass was brilliant and that there car looks mint
Currently looking at Williams in points
10 points! :D
I feel like they should change the split of money. After 5th place. From 6th down it should be an even split. To help teams. It was sad to see williams be bought out. Also to keep thing competitive.
Hello Matt!
3:02 wtf was that :V
F1 games without traffic would be so boring
12 July 2022 haas f1 team
Well that delta time sponsor aged like fine milk
Did i have a stroke or is something fishy at 3:23
If Haas has spent a year developing next years car while ignoring this year's car and they are still bottom dwellers next season they will leave F1 or sell to another buyer or manufacturer. I live not far from the Haas shop in the U.S. and Gene Haas wasted no money in building a top notch facility. It's next door to his Nascar shops which is equally as impressive. He can sell the team and still convert the F1 facility in the U.S. into an expansion of his Nascar shops. He won't lose anything in the deal. He's basically already sold out to Russia already.
Haas be like : what's wrong with my car??
3:00
I don't see that as good use of funds tho. There are many other racing series that will give greater rewards for less money. F1 is just a cash cow for Benz, Ferrari............and Redbull soon. Until all teams can independently source their own powerplants, from anywhere, they will continue to be mid-field and back markers - paid hand-me-downs for the primary manufacturers. These rules need to go ....... so there can be real competition.
So HAAS is hoping that they don't spin
What happened @3:20