The Weird & Wonderful History of F1 Qualifying Formats
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- F1 qualifying hasn't always been as simple as three knockout sessions. It's changed a lot of over the years with some being absolutely TERRIBLE.
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One-lap qualifying would be brilliant on the street circuits.
Tell me about it!!
...for effectively deciding the races on Saturday anyway
@@SiVlog1989 one-lap would shake up the grid pretty well
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@@xiDynazty if it was scenarios like Japan 2005, you'd have a point, but Street Circuits? Given their very nature, it sows the seeds for single file racing with little to no chances of overtaking in the race. There's a reason why pundits say that qualifying is most of the hard work done with regards to the race at Street Circuits
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I loved the one-shot qualifying in the mid-2000's. Everyone got full coverage of their lap and the pressure was on. Yes, it was probably unfair when it came to weather changes but that definitley made it exciting on a Sunday sometimes! Wish it would come back tbh.
I agree, for TV audiences it is exciting. However, for the spectators watching (especially those only there for the Saturday, as is relatively common), it's a bit boring, because they'd only get to see each car once
It made for 1 hell of a race: the 2005 Japanese GP
One and done, and allow them to run full qualifying setups and adjust to race settings after qualifying
We could fix the weather change issue by letting the championship leader chose where he does his lap 1st on the Saturday Morning. For example, if Vettel was leading the championship and it was forecast to rain later on, then the wise thing to do will be to chose to be the very first out on the circuit.
@@gigadonis8684 That's a horrible idea because it ensures the top dogs stay on top and don't get challenged while the rest of the order struggle, it would lead to consistent Mercedes 1-2s at every track even more so than what we have now
I loved 1 lap quali. I wish it would come back
I actually prefer 1 lap qualifying oddly enough. But that's probably because I grew up watching NASCAR and only last year began to watch F1
Gonna be a lot of contra, just like in FE
@@binbin6878 the biggest con in FE is that if a driver crashes ahead of you, it’s over. But if it’s one car at a time, it isn’t a problem
One lap, reverse championship order.
This is what I enjoyed the most! We could watch every driver's hot lap from start to finish. Will he beat the previous drivers? the suspense is awesome. In our current format, I usually just watch the last 2 minutes of the program because the rest are just boring.
The 1hr 12 lap qually will always have a place in my heart, drivers having time to set there cars up and tweak things after each run and really giving it their all. Also did like the 1 lap qually too
Those are some weird qualifying formats, but remember that one in 2021 where all drivers were required to be addicted to nicotine? Very strange indeed...
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I like the idea of the formula E qualifying. You get to see all the qualifying laps and could lead to more mixed up grids and better races.
@@Noremax still, think about how it would make quali more unpredictable in some way. Tv has nothing to do of how it works. In my opinion FE quali is a really great concept
@@Noremax but the thing is most people watch it all. The best of the best go in Group 1 and they're usually towards the back because they have the dust and they're rubbering in the track. In the 2 races we had at Diriyah on Friday and Saturday Robin Frijns went from starting P17 to starting on pole in the space of a day
Absolutely. Imo, this is the best quali format out there without being too artificial, considering the second best driver on the grid would still start 7th normally, which could happen in normal circumstances as well
@@KingsOfRugby Robin Frijns didn't qualify on friday because of the crash he had in practice
I really like this method too; wondered if it would get an honourable mention
Formula E quali is an interesting concept that would make F1 qualifying quite interesting
Its my fav. Giving top of the table guys a dirty track and bottom ppl a very good track to set time.
Like j. Diriyah where they got almost rverse order grid to the first race even though they never planned for it
@@karthikganesh2171 Yeah I think it would really suit formula 1 as a way of allowing mid field teams to get into the front positions
Yes agree would mix it up
Honestly I think that single lap qualifying in reverse championship order would go a very long way to shuffling up the grid fairly regularly.
@@deathbower fe does qualifying in reverse championship order and then the top 6 drivers in that is given single lap qualifying to set on pole position
I'd keep the knockout format for Q1 and 2 but go back to a one lap shootout for the top ten! I think that gives the best of both worlds, it'd better than a sprint race to mix up the grid at least.
They do this format in Australian Supercars - I'd love to see it done in F1!
How about do just 2 rounds .. maybe a top 12 do a 1 lap round after a 10minute 1st round.. and allow teams to run a full qualifying setup for the entire session before changing to a race setup ... It would be AMAZING to see the cars truly unleashed !!
@@jollyfish84 exactly. The Top Ten shootout gives lots of excitement.
Actually the "one lap format" would be great in tracks like Monza (always a shitshow in qualy)
Good idea to prevent another 2019 disaster so one will fight for the tow
I think that the problem with aggregate quali was that the decider was on Sunday morning, not the two laps itself. Actually when you have refueling and strategies ruining the quali, compining both low fuel and race fuel both on Saturday would have been a really decent idea.
But luckily we don't have refueling so that's a thing of the past. But something to consider on certain tracks would be a single lap finale for the top-6 or top-10 insread of regular Q3. Or even top-3 shootout on top of Q3
Damn I would love some one-lap qualifying... never seen it before but it sounds like it'd be super fun and much easier and simpler to focus, especially for those who aren't familiar with the sport. I remember when I first got into F1 in July this year that I didn't even watch Qualifying because it made no sense to me
I agree. Even though the season was really exciting, qualifying sessions usually were a let down. Not even gonna mention sprint qualifying that's rubbish
One-lap qualifying would probably be like a rally race where the later runners get a better track to run around with the racing line rubbered in. The one-hour format does allow for more adjustment over the entire session, which I kind of like since it responds to the former point by allowing drivers to figure out where they want to make changes to their strategy.
2:58 That's even more cursed than Jimmy Broadbent's cursed images.
Based on what we saw with Hamilton at the back in Brazil and your comments here about mixed up grids, i'm surprised more people aren't down for the reverse grid mechanism. I think it would be awesome.
I've been watching F1 since the early 90s so have seen a few different formats over the years. I don't mind the current system so much but must admit I've a soft spot for one lap quali. Especially at tracks like Monaco, and it often shook the grid order up.
I also loved 1 lap quali. Also, running Q3 as a one-lap shootout would be totally feasible. The big downside to single-lap qualifying was "how to decide the running order", but as a Q3 session it's easy: use Q2 times and run in that order. If there's rain forecast partway through that could cause some fun as Mercedes try to make it into Q3 in 9th and 10th so they get to run first, before the weather hits. But with many laps already done that day, the running order should also matter less anyway.
One lap qualifying sounds really cool (Im coming back to a sport I remember as a kid and I really liked watching grand prix races but then they jus kinda disappeared so there is alot I have to catch up with.......well the last 7 years is not much to look up but before that yea)
Could do something like V8 Supercars in Australia, all drivers go out and set there best laps and then the top 10 go to a shootout.
I think they should keep the 3 qualifying phases, but then make Q3 a single lap for the top 10. Quickest in Q2 gets to go out last. Similar to the way V8 Supercars in Australia do their "shoot out"
Can someone explain to me what exactly are Sprint Races and how that would potentially affect F1 if that would be applied
u dont watch f2, huh?
F2
Basically shorter races, maybe with rules such as reverse grids
If it would be applied then the excitment of qualifying is gone, the sprint race is boring because no one is going risk an overtake if they may start last, and the teams now know how the tyre wear for the main race is, removing all strategy and it would almost double the cost for teams per weekend. And it would oversaturate f1 and remove the excitement for the main race
Sprint races are races shortened to half the standard race length, where fewer points are awarded for fewer drivers.
1 lap qualifying on a championship position basis would be good, I think. "Penalizing" the front runners just a bit by having them go first in the session and giving that extra bit of grip to the midfield and back.
And to you, who's reading this, feel free to suggest stuff around this idea.
As an f1 fan in Australia I love a system our touring cars use similar to 1 lap qualifying which is the top 10shootout. So q1 and q2 would be the same but then the top 10 would do 1 lap qualifying for q3
I loved the 2-lap system used in the 2004 season. In the 1st lap with the drivers were going out in order of the results of the last race, they set a time to then establish the order for the 2nd lap (the actual qualifying lap for Sunday's race) in a reverse-grid fashion. As an spectator, it gave you 2 laps to see each driver and had the same level of excitement as the 1-lap.
One lap quali was my favourite , we got a see a full lap of every car (bar TV fuckery) so the guys at the back got great coverage and exposure for their sponsor. Also the weather through some great curve balls every so often .
Race grid is set by a score generated from initial qualifying and sprint race.
You get points from qualifying: 20 for first to 1 for last
After 40 minute sprint race the places a driver has gained/lost is added to this score plus one for fastest lap.
After first 5 minutes the driver at the back of the grid is eliminated every 2 minutes. Until three drivers remain.
But the twist is the drivers/teams from first to last in qualifying pick their sprint grid position. You can't pick the front of the grid because it's impossible to gain places, can't pick the back because there is too much risk you will be eliminated before you can gain places! Super mixed up grids and tactics in who you think you can overtake.
OMG I'm so glad that u mentioned favourite qualy format 2003-2005. I totally agree with you. In 2005 i didnt bother combined laps, beacuse local TV (croatian natioanal TV) got 1 hour extra of F1 to watch :D.
The Australian Supercars has the right idea, several practice sessions for drivers followed by qualifying followed by a top 10 shootout where every driver in the top 10 gets one lap, usually as the day warms up or cools down different drivers get an advantage, plus the rain can be a factor, means that you often get to see a wildcard of sorts on pole
Dropped watching F1 15 years ago and thanks to your videos I think I'll return to it.
I have a specific example for my favourite format, the one hour 12 laps per driver system. Nürburgring 1999, a session that started in damp conditions but was drying as the session drew on. It featured Murray Walker at his barely able to keep up best, featuring him saying at one point:
"... With 20 minutes to go, it going to change, but it's Hakkinen, Herbert, DINIZ third fastest, BADOER FOURTH FASTEST!"
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I'd be interested to see how F1 would work with Formula E style qualifying. Q1 is four short sessions in which 5 cars each go out and try to get their fastest lap. Group 1 is the top 5 in the championship, Group 2 is the next 5 and so on. After that, Q2 is the fastest 5 cars running for pole. Having the fastest cars go out first adds an unpredictability factor as the track will rubber in as the sessions go on and level the speed gap between top and bottom teams.
I've got an easy fix for 1 lap qualifying. So, to decide the grid order, we do what the WRC did from 2011-13, where drivers went out on a "Qualifying Stage" and then chose their road position (fastest guy picks 1st). But F1 should remove the "Pre Qualifying Qualifying lap" and just let drivers pick where they start the lap with championship order (In Australia we just do the Constructors Championship from last year, so like Hamilton and Bottas go first then Verstappen and Albon etc.)
Fun fact: You're here because F1 just announced Sprint Qualifying
I wonder if 1 lap quali after the current q1/2/3 system would spice the grid up. Use the q1/2/3 system to determine a running order for the 1 lap session (q-f4/q-final?), slowest goes out first, through to pole.
I think the best thing for F1 quali would be to keep the Q1, Q2, Q3 format as it is but to make Q3 a one shot quali finale. The order they go out in could be decided by where they finished in Q2. You've got the benefits of the current system which works well but with the added drama and heightened sense of importance of getting one absolute balls to the wall perfect lap to get pole. Oh and getting rid of the ridiculous Q2 tyres starting the race rule, that can't die soon enough!
Ideal quali might be: q1 and q2 unchanged but q3, 2 lap qualifying where the better time is taken. Or with more change: q1 you get top 10 and lower 10, q2 is 1 lap quali for lower 10 and q3 like above
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That last one is just like NASCAR was doing before the pandemic. I would actually love to see it, even if just for one race.
During the 80s to 1992 Pre-Qualifying, the slowest team from previous season and the small teams will participate on Friday, the four fastest car in Pre-Qualifying will enter the 30 car field Saturday Qualifying and the four slowest in Friday will pack the stuff and go home, on Saturday the four slowest cars on Qualifying will be not able to race on Sunday means 26 cars are start on Sunday
the problem with trying to change qualification to get mixed up grids is it can't work because it isn't actually dealing with the problem.
What we actually need is a grid of cars with similar performance, then drivers would make the difference and their errors will mix the grid.
everything else is just bandaids on broken bones, it doesn't make a bit of difference.
A top 10 shootout could actually go a fair way if they do it correctly. The FIA could keep the current system of 3 quali sessions with 5 being knocked out in each. But at the end of Q2, the order in which the top 10 are will decide the order they will come out in for the shootout, with 10th going first and 1st going last.
One lap qualifying for sure. When I just started watching F1, I remember asking someone if it wouldn't be best to just let one driver go at a time and set a lap...little did I know that is how it was actually done in the past. I say bring it back.
The "Eliminator mode" (as called in video games) wasn't such a bad idea on paper but ... it was based on the fact the cars would stay on track.
Considering the limited number of tires available, the short live performances of these tires, the need to protect the engine ... the cars wouldn't stay on track for long, and counting the in-lap and out-lap was way to much of a lost time to make viable (not counting the fact that you couldn't finish your lap when the coundown hit 0).
The concept could have worked with "qualification tires" which would have lasted longer, but it would also need more time between elimination, which would have pushed the qualification duration to be way longer, and we would have gone back to the problem of economising the engine.
1 Lap quali is totally my favourite. If it had a few tweaks would really help like totally random order of going out. May mean tv figures drop after some guys have gone out but if had Ham out first but Bottas was last one out might make it interesting.
I reckon they should do a top 10 style shoot out where you have 1 quali for every one then the top 10 go through to the shoot out and go one at a time 10 through to 1st for a single hot lap
Monza, Monaco, Mexico City, Spa, and Singapore one lap qualifying would be lit
I think that F1 should do 1 laps for each driver but in reverse of the leaderboard
Which means that the points leader will go out 1st
That will bring focus for each driver and make no room for mistakes, also the fact that the championship leader will go out first means that it puts him in a disadvantage and that will make Saturdays and the championship more interesting
I would change one thing: Q1 and Q2 the same, but Q3 could be a 1 lap only. That may spice things up a bit.
I think a mix of the current and one lap would be amazing, Q1 and Q2 are normal sessions, and then Q3 the 10 remaining drivers do a 1 lap quali, to at least shake up the order of the top 10 potentially
one way to mix things up would be for the top5 or top6 of the last race to get a 1s handicap on their lap times in qualifying the next race forcing them to either push their car to the limit from the very beginning of q1 to even get to q2 or q3 or to work their way through the field...
At least that would be one way to get Mercedes more on "level" with the other teams...
one-lap qualifing, in order of championship.
You're first in the championship, you start first.
or
limit that format for just the Qs (1st in Q3, starts first in Q2)
What if we had Q1 and Q2 then use the final Q2 timings to determine the order of sending drivers out for one-lap quali in Q3?
There would be a more competitive aspect to Q2 and it’d be incorporating the old one lap system back, right at the most climactic point of all of qualifying (the shootout for pole).
Imagine the car that topped Q2 having the final lap of qualifying but running wide or spinning off, awarding pole to someone who was initially far less likely to get it. That sounds exciting to me.
I have an idea.
Q1 determines the fastest and slowest, no one gets eliminated at this stage.
in Q2, each team must deploy their car a few seconds after the earlier car goes out of the pitstop, so the slower cars can get slipstreamed by the cars ahead while the fastest one doesn't. here the last five or 10 gets eliminated.
in Q3 the top grid placements are determined like usual Q3.
this idea is perfect with the 2022 regulations as slipstreaming will be better, reduced dirty air and slower cars can get better chances at the newly proposed Q2 stage.
My initial memories of F1 was those 1lap quali format. It gave so much attention and focus to 1 driver. Not sure 🤔 why that was discontinued but its time to bring it back especially in the interest of climate change.
I would be all for a two lap qualifying format. You have to set the first lap on the first half hour and the second one on the second half hour. The best lap is your time. This roughly eliminates the weather variable of the single qualifying lap and a small mistake ruining a one lap but a driver would still need to put in a clean fast lap. You wouldn't see hugely jumbled orders in the grid but would definitely spice things up for each group because bravery would have significant risk/reward outcomes
I might be too young to remember the 1h- format, because i was born in 1996 and i didn't watch f1 until 2005, but i like the sound of the format. Also The single lap qualifying of the early 2000's also sounds great, cause there isn't that problem that all the drivers complain about, that another driver is slowing their lap. If the sprint race doesn't catch on i wish they would bring the single lap qualifying back.
My favorit would be a combination of Q1-2-3 and a one lap shoot-out. The super pole (?) in Formula E for example is a good thing.
Saturday practice could determine the order in wich they post their laps in qualifying and then we have qualifying with 3 rounds elimination like we have now but with only one lap and each round the order gets switched. Slowest car starts first in the following round.
I would like to see that.
I remember a lot of most if not all of those Qualifying formats well, definitely shows how much it's chnaged over the years of F1, along with which ones worked better and which ones really didn't work at all😛👍
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One lap quali is the best format f1 ever had. If I remember correctly, it was decided to cancel because fans on track did not get much action, and access to information such as live timings and screens to see what is happening was limited. Now we have TV in our pockets, so I would love if they bring back this format again.
I think that overall the 1 lap quali system is the best one for today cars cause have we forgotten about the 2019 Monza’s mess? Or in Baku? I’d like to see the 1 lap quali back
I think they should do a 30 minute open qualifying session. All cars out on track. 30 minutes isn't too long or too short track time, any longer and the big teams would just wait till the last couple of minutes to head out
I still like the idea of a reverse grid sprint race quali. take that reverse grid from the finish order of the previous GP. Undoubtedly it would lead to an exciting Sat race with lots of overtakes, as well as some more jumbled grids, leading to more excitement on Sunday. Formula E has had a lot of success with the negative feedback in quali, where the fastest cars from the previous race set their laps first.
heres an idea: Q1 and Q2 stay as they are now, and Q3 is a 1 lap qualifying, order decided by aggregate btw Q1 and Q2, to mix the order (on the event of rain, current system would aply)
Picture this: 2 practice sessions Friday. One reverse grid sprint race Saturday morning that gives no points but sets the order for one lap qualifying Saturday evening. Then the normal race on Sunday.
I think a really good system is the Australian super cars way where you have like a 45 ish min qauli seshions then a top 10 shootout which is fair but still mixes it up enough
What about for Q3 its a one hot lap attempt each. They go out in the order of championship position (First out First) one hot lap one attempt. Would really test them and they can't complain about traffic. I think it would be good TV and give some slower cars better track quality for a slight advantage, so kind of having elements of a reverse grid, without all the dangers that a full reverse grid would cause.
I'd love to see the 1 lap qualifying return but with a twist. Give the drivers 2 laps or rather 2 rounds of 1 lap and use their best lap of the 2 they set. Let me explain what it is and why I think it could be pretty cool.
One lap qualifying is pretty exciting but it could be better. One issue you run into with 1 lap qualifying is that driver's aren't likely to push their hardest as a simple mistake could see them starting from the back row so it's only natural for them to ease up a bit knowing that a 2nd row start is better than a 10th row one or, even worse, a pit lane start. Giving them 2 rounds of 1 lap could allow for a banker lap on the first go and then an all out attack on the second, knowing that they have a fallback time in case they push too hard in round 2.
To elaborate further though, let all the drivers get a single lap in where they can either choose to post a banker or push as hard as they dare knowing that if they make an error, they have another run to go (provided they didn't put their car into the barriers). Once everyone's posted a single lap, it moves on to the second lap/round where they're given the chance to improve and possibly pip rivals seeing as everyone knows how things have roughly stacked up after the first round. This way, if a driver had been one-upped by a rival that set a lap after him in the first round, it gives that driver a chance to respond in the second run. Essentially like the best bit of Q3 right now where the top drivers end up setting 2 laps, trying to top each other but with the distinction that the action applies to the entire grid, not just the top drivers! An added rule could be that you use the results of the previous race/season to determine the running order for the first round, ergo: Ham runs first followed by Bot then by Ver and so on until everyone's posted a lap (1-2-3...18-19-20). This order would provide a natural hinderance to the fastest drivers by forcing them to drive on a track that hasn't been rubbered in and could also force their hand if they don't want to have all the pressure on their last lap (essentially 1-lap qualifying). But to keep everyone interested for the second round, instead of following the same order (which would have the slowest cars running at the end of the session) you could either reverse that initial order (so 20-19-18...3-2-1) or use the preliminary grid that was set in the the first round and have the slowest driver run first followed by the next fastest and so on. This way you'll still have drama and suspense right up to the very end as the pole sitter likely wouldn't be determined until the very end.
Edit: I just want to say thanks to anyone that read to the very end hahaha
sunday qualifying (2004-2005) was never shown on itv1 hence the prob with it i think it was shown on a freeview channel not everybody had them then
I think that the Formula E format is quite nice where the grid is divided in 4 groups of qualifiers starting from the best of last race. It may be worse because you see the tops first the first times but it may be cool because you see better mix ups in the grid. The top 6 still will be out there at the end.
I wish we could have the one lap qualifying back. As said in your video, commentators have more time to talk about each driver. Nowadays we only know lots of information about Hamilton, Verstappen and occasionally someone else, but the rest of the grid is left out.
Let's mix them all together! Q1 as it is. Q2 takes the aggregate of Q1 and Q2 to advance to Q3. Q3 1 lap shootout! Order is slowest to fastest.
1 lap quali with the quali order the reverse of the last race or championship standings. That would be insanely awesome
The only real issue with one lap qualifying that there would often be an unfair advantage to someone especially if the track was dirty the people running at the end had a massive advantage so wasn't always representative or like Japan 2003 and 2005 where the last runners got caught out in the rain for example but then this was part of mixing up the grid. As others had said do Q1 and Q2 normal than do one lap in Q3.
The elimination qualifying would work but only in the wet as thats when drivers go out straight away and do multiple laps. Imagine if it was in place for Turkey qualifying last year
I'd say leave things are they are, BUT if I was to offer suggestions, then... Idea -;
Current format, but with only 1 run allowed for Q1, 2 & 3. Top 10 all start the race on their Q1 tyres so you can't really game the system too much. Keep the 107% rule for Q1 as well (With room for special circumstances when appropriate), and leave it to the drivers to pick when they go for their laps
I think a mix of the current format and the 1 lap format could be nice.
15 minutes, every driver sets a lap and the best 10 or 8 will go to the one lap format.
Maybe you can combine the times of the first and second format then but I don't know 😅
I never knew about the 2016 one.
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Why wouldn't I want to listen to Mr Passion? (Is that ok, Matt?)
I actually loved the one lap qualifying. perhaps that can be incorporated into what we have now, Q1 and Q2 stay the same but everyone who made it into Q3 gets just 1 lap, and who finished p10 at the end of Q2 goes first, po second and so forth. any good?
What about testing/borrowing FE’s qualifying format. Divide the grid into 4 groups with the top 5 drivers in the last race go first (w/ the first race of the season top 5 in the championship last year goes first) the first grp usually struggle obviously because of track temperature and dirtiness. then grp 2 will go next then grp 3 and grp 4 last then top 6 goes for super-pole where the cars go and set a flying lap one by one. we wouldn’t even need reverse grids if f1 does it. I mean with that format Williams, haas or Alfa Romeo could clinch pole or just get into the top 10. Look at the second race last weekend. Sam bird, robin frijns and the 2 nio cars. They started at the front even though they didn’t score a single point the the 1st race
1-lap qualifying would be great to see again. I really want to see what each driver is doing, maybe even have a competent commentator explain it to me.
As an Austrian, I'm used to watching alpine skiing, where they go one by one, and you can really focus on what they're doing. Now, I'm probably as far from a World Cup skier as I am from an F1 pilot, but I feel like I can tell where they're gaining or losing time.
I wish I could say that about F1. I can tell if somebody's race craft is brilliant, in a one-on-one battle, but I'm not really sure what makes or brakes pures pace.
I recon the system should have a Q1, and Q2, but with a very limited amount of laps. like 2 non consecutive laps and force them to use 2 different tyre compounds. 1 for each round. Strategy would play a huuge role then
i remember when f1 had same thing that motogp now has which is 4th practice session and warm up laps thats a blast from the past.
How about a mixture of current and 1 lap qualy, Q1 and Q2 as is and Q3 reverse Q2 order single lap?
One lap quali BUT in driver championship standings order. It wouldnt change that much but it gives chance for slower teams to use some of that rubber left by faster ones
1 shot qualifying for tracks like monza, Monaco and red bull ring would be good
Maybe a elimination type of qualy where everyone does 1 lap and the slowest 2 drop out. And so on till there al maybe 10 or 5 left and let them all do 1 more lap and done. I think there is more pressure on the big guys where making 1 mistake can end you up on 13the place where as now if you mess up 1 lap u go for another one. Note that everybody HAS TO do a new lap of they go trough tho.. So when you are the fastest your time will be deleted for the next elimination. Also make it by order of the championship leaderboard maybe? Meaning the highest placed driver goes last.
I really really really think 1 lap quali needs to be brought in for tracks with huge slipstream issues. Tracks like Monza that had the infamous bunch up and most of the field not willing to go, well it wouldn't matter, one car, one lap, make it count. The more typical race tracks where slipstream isn't as big a deal, yeah do the normal setup.
They should try to have it that they have the Usual Q1/Q2 but then for Q3 they should do 1 lap qualifying
1:00 thank you Jean bloody Todt.
Everyone sets a lap, then the lap times go in a hat. You pick a card out, then you have your position. Random race would be reverse grid, but you wouldn't know until 5 mins before the cars get on the grid.
I'm in favour of putting *sprinklers around the track* and having them *spray the track* with water at random intervals during the qualifying session, format. (Note to any newbies, this format never existed this is just my idea for creating an exciting qualifying session). Lol
When the current (knock-out) qualifying was implemented I thought it was stupid and complicated for nothing. But a few races in made me realize how much better it was closed l compared to the 1-hour qualifying all cars can go out on track session. But yes I agree with Matt, that format gave more surprising results.
The only thing that could make quali better is having Q1 and Q2 the same and than have a real Top 10 shoot-out and only 1 car on track at the time
I'd be interested to see tyres come into play more in qualifying (don't hit me, hear me out). Keep the same format as now i.e. 3 part elimination however you have to commit to a tyre compound for a session, so example in Q1 Hamilton goes out on Hard tyres, Schumacher on Softs. You then have to commit to that compound for that session. If you're eliminated, you have to start on the tyres you were running in that session. If you make it through, you can't use the same compound in the next session (so Schumacher could use mediums or hards only in Q2 if he went through) then same again for Q3. It could make strategy interesting.. of course it could also be a disaster. I'm not an F1 strategist (as you may have guessed...), just a man that clearly has too much time on his hands in lockdown.
A Q3 one shot qualifying would be great. Sometimes even the best drivers screwed up on their first lap so it might be interesting
Agreed, but what if if there is rain in Q3. which drammatically changes the laptimes over a span of just a few minutes.
Then your basically screwed if your timeslot sucks.
I'd vouch for Q3 one shot if dry. And in order of Q2 maintaining the tyre rule.
That would give top teams on mediums in Q2 an slightly harder time in Q3.
Example Lewis could potentially only make P6 on mediums. So he has to go out as the 5th car in Q3, Then Max which went on softs in Q2 can go out last.
Giving Max a slight advantage in traction since there is a bit more rubber. At the cost of the slower race tyre.
I'd love to see one lap qualifying with the order of running being the finishing order of the previous race, so if you win the race, you do your qualifying run first for the next race. Might mix things up a bit to keep the top drivers away from that end of session advantage.
I think Q1 should be a "one lap session" where only the top 15 would go through, then Q2 & Q3 would be the normal elimation we have today. The Q1 running order would be decided on the previous race results. So 1st would be Hamilton and then Verstappen and so on. I think this could give slower team a great opportunity to be fast as the track gets more rubber in the end. Thoughts ??
2 laps format was my fav. Yet 1 lap is also good bringing more random as well