Why Don’t Slower F1 Teams Copy The Fastest Car?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2020
- Why doesn't every team copy the fastest car in Formula 1? Surely that's the easiest way to be quicker? This video explains why simply taking a few pictures and copying is much harder than it seems.
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"Haas is struggling to understand how to make their Ferrari package work"
Don't worry, not even Ferrari can understand how it works
ooof
OOUUCHHHHH 😂😂😂
Shoot that is hard🤣🤣
Ice cold 😂
I’m following Ferrari tradition by saying ‘next year will be our year’
My cousin a non f1 fan: "I thought they all looked the same anyway lol"
Yeah, same, I'm not an F1 fan but youtube reccomended me this and I'm like "Wait, they're different?!"
Maybe he works for Racing Point?
Kill it
@@alexpotterson9119 I feel you 😂
im not f1 fan too. lmao i thought they all same. the only difference would be driver skill
For some reason I read "Why don't F1 teams copy the slowest car?" Then I realized that's probably how Ferrari read it too
That's a creative joke bro I actually found it a little bit funny too
Meme of the decade lol
Lol
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You are not alone, I read the same thing as you and I'm a Ferrari supporter. 😂😭
Look out for them unveiling their new driver for next season, "Hewis Lamilton".
😂😂
😂👍
Vax Merstappen
@@RealCosmosry Alexander Albon
No point to watching it bc Red Bull or mclaren will always be on podium
Why did Ferrari copy the 2019 Williams car?
LOL
U won the internet
I've seen this comment at least 100 actual times
Now Ferrari will get a 100 million fine which will help Williams to be back to the top :)
Hahahbah perfect
Everyone: Copying other cars won't work.
Ferrari: Hold my red Haas!
Sauber 1997-2005: Hold my blue Ferrari.
Binotto in 2022: He does notta smasha me foking door.
Ligier 1995: Hold my dark blue Benetton.
@@mlgswagboi72s47 Pretty generous of you to think that Binotto will have a job in 2022
This has made my day, excellent work.
It's totally impractical, but I'd love to see a seperate GP where every driver has the exact same car and it all comes down to the skill of the driver
Smells like f2 in here
@@Jomztherope kind of, yeah, but in F2 they have different aero setups as well. In my hypothetical GP, everyone would be thrown into the same car (let's say a Mercedes, which is fast, but also fairly easy to drive) with the same aero trims, fuels loads, etc. The only difference being driver and strategy.
@@lukepc7477 interesting though, because lots of people deem racing series with exact same material lame, somehow communism has been really made sour for people. :-D
@@lukepc7477 nah that wouldn’t work sadly. Some drivers prefer a planted car. Others prefer a twitchy car
You mean Indy 500 all those cars looks the same
I don't know but after seeing George Russell's performance in the Merc, it would be good to see who would win if the cars were all exactly the same
i think either lewis or max would win, with george not too far behind, would be interesting to see how seb vettel would do
Seb and Leclerc actually would 1-2 most races.
@@xk2107 no
That's how f2 works.
Like formula e?
4:20 how is Haas supposed to understand Ferrari's car if Ferrari themself dont understand their Car ??
Man, nailed it 😂
Good point 🥴
Exactly. That's why the recent Haases are shit.
I guess they weren't high enough
Nice
I'm fine with "inspiration" coming from other teams if it means that there are more fast cars and the racing is actually better!!
Agreed.
Yup I agree
Cause look if the bottom team not get sponsors and gonna bankruptcy
Who gonna blame
The TOP team FIA ??
Any one not gonna help them
agree! just look at Hungary Quali, Racing Points 3-4,, Stroll in 3rd place. while last season, Stroll rarely went on 3rd Quali session
Whats the point of doing own development then? Why not just give all the teams the same car and race?
Go watch NASCAR then. This is formula 1.
Otmar Zaffnauer “TONY STARK BUILT THIS MERCEDES IN A CAVE. FROM SCRAPS!!!”
Andrew Green “I’m not Tony Stark” ...
Honestly I wouldn’t care is they copy each other, as long as the races become more competitive. Styria was fun.. I didn’t even pay attention to Mercedes
Styria was the worst race I've ever had the misfortune of seeing in my life
@@ToumapassarZEZOCA styria was epic
@@timo4022 yes, because seeing both Red getting a lobotomy in T3 is epic
Imagine someone just cheating from you and saying that he nailed the exam, Well That is the case.
3:20 the Williams wing doesn't even work on a Williams car.
"Every Team has there own philosophy how to build the fastest car."
*shows Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull*
"Mercedes has a long, low, flat car. While Red Bull is short, with a step rake."
Me: What about Ferrari?
*Remembers the last 2 GP*
Oh you said the fastest car. Nevermind.
*Cries in Tifosi*
oof
F
Pronto,JingelJjay
S🅱️inalla.
Engine feels good much slower than before amazing
Although it is not ideal, if teams copy each other to a point that it creates closer and fairer racing then I am all for it, anything to show the drivers true skill
Totally agreed man
and Mercedes winning every year
@@TheEpicgamer2102 we can still have some Nico Rosbergs though
Giving a good fight in the championship
Why not just have a stock car with stock parts and just leave it all to driver's skill in that case.
So you want to watch spec racing, check out F2/F3
props for getting straight to the point and filling the 5 and a half minutes with actually useful info unlike so many other vids on subjects like these
When my professor got me peaking at a classmate's paper during a chemistry test I also told him I was just getting inspired by his work instead of copying.
It didn't work
The question isnt:
"Why don't smaller teams copy the fastest car?"
The question is:
"Why did Ferrari copy the slowest car(Haasss) ?"
Boi they didn't copy Haas (NOT HASS!), they copied Williams
Hass = 'hatred' in German
Haas = F1 team
@@nemoschmitz2374 haas = typo in English
@@chrishoffman73 Boiiii they copied their customer car.
Its the driver not the car
Tracing point or Pink Mercedes?
Imagine Crofty using Tracing Point😂
I’d die 😂😂
I heard Tracing Point over the weekend and nearly died! LOL
Force Replica
Or my fav: Copy & Paste Racing Team
Neither of them are funny so it really doesnt matter
How about Tracing Mercedes?
This is the first time I’ve heard “Tracing Point” but it is genius. My new Fantasy F1 team name without a doubt!
I feel 'Fans" are more concerned with who is the best driver, while the "Sport" (and all parties that entails) are concerned with who can build the fastest car. It's the never ending pull between the drivers championship and the constructors championship. Honestly I would think the majority of fans are far more concerned with the drivers championship and the FIA's rules and Regulations should follow suit. Because it's the fans that buy tickets and watch races etc. But then there is the counter argument to fans buying manufacturer merchandise from as small as a hat to an actual car at a dealership.
Because we can only buy a Mercedes hat or car, not a Hamilton one.
It's also Because if you build the best car then the best drivers will want to come drive for you. Drivers follow cars.
@@AD-df5tm also money goes to constructors champions, drivers is just a title that gets constructors to pay some of their winnings
“Tracing point” is honestly my favourite name for something ever.. makes me laugh every time 😂😂
Why is it such a funny name?
@@independantpanda9194
It's a play on "Racing Point" where it says Tracing instead meaning copying
A Zander_HH “tracing” as in they took the blueprints of the merecedes and traced them and then rebranded them as their own car
First time I've heard them being called Tracing Point, and I had to pause the video for a moment 😂
"If you put the front wing of the Mercedes on the Williams, it will go slower"......No it won't. It can't go any slower than it does at the moment.
You meant Ferrari
@@Daniel-wj9rz Yikes
Could go backwards... Haha
@@Daniel-wj9rz nein he meant mercedes
I'd agree with you on the fact that copying and/or being inspired by other teams is certainly a grey area and it very much is good or bad depending on what side you're looking on it from. But, RP seems to have engineered it well, and as long as there is no insider trading between the 2 teams, I think that's completely fair. I also learnt today that the changing one part changes how the entire car works from your video, so thank you for the info!
I'm happy to see competitive racing and the midfield pile at the moment is great to watch. So teams being inspired by the front runners just makes for a better outcome for the drivers, sponsors, the racing and the fans.
Conspiracy theory: racing point made corona virus so they’d have a good car for two seasons
Egad! This is so true! I'm so woke now. It's not the Illuminati after all. It's Racing Point!!
My favourite theory so far
paid for by lance stroll and his daddy 😘
@@fezzes428 paid by norris and his rich daddy*
If that's the case that must be the most far-fetched conspiracy ever! Hilarious! xD
Tracing points car designer revealed how it was done: Ctrl+c
Ctrl+v
Mercedes: "yes but change something"
Tracing point: "you mean like, the colour?"
lol
Claudio Solomon OR:
You mean like.... FOREVER?!
Ctrl+A
Ctrl+C
Ctrl+V
Repaint
Then Ctrl+v into paint. Change to pink.
'Racing point now has a good car for two seasons'
Me, from the future: Oh boy you're in for a treat
aged like milk lol
F1 cars to the untrained eye and without having a side-by-side look identical if not for the colors, anyway.
As long as the races get closer and more interesting they can all be the same for what I care, to me F2 and FE are more interesting to watch and they have all the same car. Either take the risk in trying to make a copy work or make something you're certain how it works, they both take R&D and a lot of care.
Answer: because they don’t want stupid nicknames like Tracing Point
Not to mention, many people thought Racing Point was kind of a stupid name for an F1 team to begin with.
Greg Brown Its actually a really smart name, because it gives the ability to change their name. Since the “point” in racing point is actually just a dot (.), they can change their name to ... racing. They are therefore able to change their name to “aston martin racing.”.
Should have kept Force India cos nothing funny rhymes with it. Except maybe Porsche India, but Porsche don't have an F1 team to copy. Or maybe Source India, but that would defeat the purpose of the joke.
@@d.b.cooper1 It's not that they can't execute it. It's that this completely violates the spirit of the competition.
Also on top of that, even teams that are behind, are looking for that next innovation that might guarantee success. Just copying year old designs from the front runners, guarantees that you will never do that.
@@borisssino That would be pretty genius :O
Every time a team comes up with a new innovation the first thing the other teams do is try to copy it so i dont have a problem with what Racing Point have done. If they were last there would be no protest
but here lies the difference: 1 thing is seeing something revolutionary and trying to obtain the same result your way (like they did back in the day with ground effect, there were even cars with movable skirts), another is getting a carbon copy of a part, and that's where Racing Point allegedly falls. What Renault is saying is not that RP developed a part that looks and feels very similar, but they're implying RP got their hands somehow on the blueprints of the part, and just produced it, and that is against the rules, heavily
@@Moribax85 Breakducts were put on the listed parts list this year RP bought the 2019 Mercedes Breakducts completly legal they don't need any blueprints. So RP now bought the Mercedes breakducts and then desighnt them a lidel bit diferent so they are in the rules, RP has nothing to fear.
@@Moribax85 I have a hard time to believe that Racing Point took pictures and managed to make a car that performs as well as the 2019 Mercedes. For years Racing Point/Force India tried to copy Red Bull and failed. Now they managed to copy a car within a year without problems. Suspicious that happens now when Daddy Stroll gets invested while being good friends with Toto Wolff. Next year as Aston Martin, which they both are heavily invested in.
@@rockomax4284 watch the video main? B4 this RP like mashing mercedes and RB into one car...it is easier to copy one car instead of combining two car
@@rockomax4284 if rp was using mercedes parts it just makes sense to have a design similar to mercedes rather than something that is in contrast with it as the parts would be more suited for the design it was made for. if rp was buying parts from red bull then their red bull similar design would've been more successful and merrcedes parts mean better result with a design similar to mercedes
I think it would be more beneficial for every team to have the same power units as standard so then every team is equal and makes the racing more enjoyable for drivers fans and commentators as any driver can win it just comes down to pure driver skill ability and strategy
if you want competition based more on driver skill watch nascar or indycar lol
The risk is, if you depend on only one supplier, imagine the scandals that would happen if one team got more mechanical failiures than another? The conspiracy theories would take over the sport
I like the variety of car designs it makes it feel like the manufacturers actually had something to do with the car unlike nascar where they all look the same
Imagine if ferrari copies mercedes next year, with the budget they have, they could make a very quick car
Pim Prijs that’s why i hate Ferrari, all the money and not a lot of innovation. One day that brand name and racing Heritage will run out.
Ferrari management is too arrogant to even try that
@@Ramboost007 italians are very proud.
Part of the equation is the Mercedes power unit, that car wouldn't be even close to as effective as it is without it. In fact I would posit that the Racing Point car this year would be straight up bad if you stuck a Honda or Ferrari power unit in there
Their main problem for Ferrari is the engine. I don't see copying body can help a lot.
Everyone: f1 would be so much more interessting if everyone had the same car!!!
Tracing Point: Hold my beer
Everyone: *confused pikatchu meme*
more like...
Tracing Point: Hold my camera
They kinda do have one same car
called Suzuki Liana
Well, they did
Congratulations on being on Trending!
Great vid!
I'll be honest, if it takes Mercedes copy to fight Mercedes domination so be it.
its still one year older so yeah
Put max and charles in the pink mercedes and things would turn around.
@@GinoNL doubtful, the redbull is faster, and Charles is still showing hes only a rookie
@@tommoran798 I would advise you to start watching 2020 f1.
Joe Felony I am and I can still see that Charles is just a rookie and the red bull is faster.
This means:
The gap betwern the teams will be narrower, so the bigger ones will have to imorove in order to stay in front, which means higher development and faster cars, so yeah, I like to see this going on
i'm afraid to say your point is nullified by 2 things:
1) the budget cap, to have development you have to invest, if you're capped on the amount of money you can spend, your development caps at some point aswell
2) why invest in development when your rivals will just copy you? at that point is just more efficient to let your rivals catch up, have all the exact same car, and just use all your budget to hire the best drivers
This means development will actually stagnate, with progress only made in reliability, maybe
@@Moribax85 because being the First with a development will make your car faster, and you will collect more points until they copy your idea...IF ...and again..IF they do it well, because if they dont make a good copy, the advantage will be still there
@@Moribax85 "why invest in development when your rivals will just copy you?" - because if your rivals are just copying you, then they will never catch up and you will maintain a technology advantage.
@@Moribax85 This will definitely add another side to the sport. When was the last time all the drivers had a similar paced car? They can only go so fast around the track so this could lead to closer racing and more overtaking in a race.
@@Moribax85 I "liked" the previous comment beofre reading this. you make very good points
Copying even from pictures is extremely difficult though. Get some clearance off by 1 mm and you have different airflow which doesn't work with the rest of your components. You made a perfect point that copying is easy, but understanding how to make it work is not. So I'm okay with copying. If done right, copying can lead to faster and faster cars because it reduces the effort you need to put into designing a fast car yourself, and you can spend that effort on improving the existing design. Basically, your starting position in design is already one step ahead by copying which gives more time and resources to spend on further improving that design. I think this will ultimately push design further.
Thank you for these videos I just got into the sport
I like the diversity between the car designs cause it shows you how the different teams strategise. Also shows their commitment to improve the cars and invest the money into making their cars faster.
Honestly that answers a question I’ve had for years. Surely you’d just copy someone’s design but it’s never that straightforward obviously.
I know everyone's saying "Oh this is good, teams copying others, because we'll have closer racing!" But in my opinion, this completely throws the whole spirit of F1 out the window; building your car from scratch, making it your own and developing it as the season goes on.
Plus the fact the new running cost regulations will fix a lot of disparity between teams. There NEEDS to be that competitive edge fgs, that's what adds to the entertainment value!
Everyone's just saying it because the Mercedes dominance bores them. Can't blame them though.
Copying has been always a big factor in F1. And this is as it should be, otherwise the Mercedes would be in the lead forever now. Deal with it.
You talk about "copying" like it was just copying and pasting things and it absolutely isn't like that when it comes to building a car. The fact that Racing Point got their W10 looking ass car working and performing in such manners is actually a miracle of engineering.
I def agree mostly. I think the car building is actually just as big if not bigger to me than the actual racing. If everyone had the same car... I dunno it would def be all about driver skill... but that isn't Formula 1 in my opinion.
The budget cap just keeps merc top, no one else can actually catch them they’re so far ahead
I always end up watching random videos on youtube while also listening to new bands I like like Delta Parole and that, is how I end up on this circuis video spree right now.
Ah...The Racing Gods have finally blessed us with an F101 episode
I just recently started watching f1 properly. And all i can say is, it’s quite pleasant to see middle ground teams like racing point bring competition to the table. Feels like it brought some life and competition to the sport
Now I didn't really see differences between the cars before I looked a close-up pics, I would be okay with copying as long as the races are competitive, but I would also like to see bigger differences in the designs of cars between teams like it was in the early days
I really like this channel, so I subscribed to it!
WTF1 FOR THE WIN!
Considering they already get many of their components from Mercedes it is a real 200 IQ solution to copy their aerodynamic package, as the parts were already build for that kind of aerodynamic philosophy.
Tracing point 😂😂, I think every team should just buy Mercedes Power Units and brakes, and try to poach an ex Mercedes engineer or two..
Imagine Ferrari-Mercedes and Renault-Mercedes
One of the big reasons I enjoy F1 is the design and engineering, once everyone copies from each other there will be only 1 car to loo at in amazement compared to 10.
I don't think so, if everyone has the same car then you need to pretty confident that you have the best, or one of the best drivers. If you take the risk to make your car better, then you don't have to take your chances on your driver.
F1 has purely become competition of team and the money they have, leaving the driver equation useless ..
I would like to see more of individual drivers skill and team work balanced.
Won't work without the other, really. This is why Rossi left Ducati and came back to Yamaha.
Pink w10: nearly spins out albon
Albon: Vietnam flashbacks
this sentence would have worked if albon gets punted in Vietnam GP
@@marcoslukaz5178 It still works.
Pink W10: **Destroys itself**
Albon: "Karma!"
If it makes the racing more competitive I’m happy with anything tbh
That front nose design is what gives it speed, from any angle it sustains supreme downforce without drag loss. I know as I work for tracing point currently gripping my tracing paper, with myy tracing point pen enjoying the mid field trolling.
I don't have too much of an issue because as you said, getting it to look the same is one thing, getting it to actually work is quite another
Let’s take a minute to appreciate how good it would be to hear Crofty say
*AND THE TRACING POINT IS GOING WHEEL TO WHEEL WITH THE REAL MERCEDES
Edit: thanks for the likes
I read that in the crofty voice and it was awesome. Like I actually heardit
Volarknight looooool I can just imagine😂
I guess the real Merc allowed this to happen because something (DAS) cannot be copied 😆
I'm still trying to find a way of muting him! Can't stand him shouting!
Lance: Daddy buy me a Williams
Lawrence: here you are son
Lance: it’s not good enough, buy me a force India
Lawrence: here you are son
Lance: it’s still not good enough, but me a Mercedes
Lawrence: here you are son, unfortunately it’s pink
Lance: it’s ok, I still can’t beat my teammate
Lance: At least I can play with Ricciardo now
Dont hate the player hate the game.
I actually think Stroll is a decent midfield driver. He's only 21, so he has time to improve further. In the past drivers used to get into F1 later: Hakkinen at 23, Schumi at 22, Senna at 24, Mansell at 27, Damon Hill at 32!
@@cosmin751 In the past those drivers also had pace.
Lawrence: Kicks our Perez
1:38 just wanted to say that mclaren didnt “steal” anything, a ferrari insider literally gave the documents to some mclaren officials, and the team used this. Great video, keep it up! :D
I think even if the cars become more similar there will still be teams who deviate and innovate. It could lead to an exciting year when a smaller team upsets the projections because they took a new design direction.
The F1 rules limit the freedom of innovations significantly. F1 of 80th was full of diversity and innovations.
Williams is suying Ferrari for copying it's 2019 car
lol that's funny
Theyre what
@@Amonfobious yusing Ferrari
suying, my favorite thing to see
can't tell if its buying or sueing
They should have used imperial drawings so when the FIA compare Mercedes and racing point drawings they could say look the shaft is 25.4mm on the Mercedes and on our car it’s 1inch.
“Lemme see that wing” 😂
Well i think if we have like 3 or 4 concepts which are shared for the teams then I would expect close racing with benefits for some teams at maybe circuits with long straits and other teams have benefits at slower circuits and I think that would be much more fun to watch
Copying is likely to be a midfield move
Topteams (like rb & ferrari) copying the best car (merc) wont work because you cant beat the original, but you can move up the ladder in the tight midfield
Ferrari is definitely a top team
tbh even if all had same cars it would still be fun seeing them racing like f2 and formula e
Charles Szasz here we go with another fanboy
@Charles Szasz Max and Lewis*
@Charles Szasz Wouldn't be F1 anymore though. F1 is an engineering competition where the cars are the main competitors, the drivers are there to take the maximum out of them... or bring money lol.
That sentence should’ve stopped at F2
But it would no longer be "Pinnacle" of Motorsports, would just be open cockpit spec series
Yes lets all just copy each other and make identical cars, that way we'll know for sure who's the faster driver
indycar?
@@madtechnocrat9234 i was thinking more like f2
Most of them are hard to distinguish from each other anyway if painted all black (or other identical livery). I can recognize some of them, like that one McLaren nose from 2018. But even that got changed at some point in the season so i don't even know when they ran it.
For me personally, assuming that is all within the sporting regulations. I'm all for it. I mean Racing Point are simply trying to get the best from their limited resources comparitive to the big teams and although it was a risk the risk seems to have paid off. I'm sure leoi would care if they were off the pace.
*Tracing Point* : Yo Mercedes, can I copy your homework?
*Mercedes* : Of course, just make sure you change some of it so it doesn't look that obvious!
1:37 FYI McLaren never "stole" anything from Ferrari. They accepted an illegal offer. Subtle difference but I'm not having any of your "stolen" arguement.
I think more similarity between cars would be good. It would make the results more based on a drivers skill, not the bank account of the team
F1 in the future : 4 merc team , 3 ferrari team, 2 RB team and renault ... no innovation, just copy/past
_Ferrari as they won the championship using Lancias:_
Honestly you're not wrong. With this shitstorm right now It might be a while before anyone comes up with anything innovative. Sure there might be some improvements here and there but I don't see a massive breakthrough for another 2-3 years.
True, If theres a new team, they will just copy Ferrari, or RB
Reminds me of the time when Newey designed the cars for bothRB teams
IRC Toto have shares in 30% MB F1 team, idk numbers in Williams and 1% in Aston Martin (global, not F1 team)....
Toto just buy F1 partialy, also Susie owns some shares in FE MB EQ team
"Each Team has their own idea on how to build the fastest car"
*shows Ferrari*
I'd like to witness every vehicle being identical, to see who really is the best driver
If every vehicle is identical aren't you just finding who's the best at driving that specific car? F1 is decided by constructor which is unfortunate but I think you still need some variability in the cars to find the best driver just because of different driving styles.
Thats just formula E
@@connorheino7343 but the driver can still adjust different settings on the car to his liking, you know all the technical stuff like how much front/rear wing he wants, tire pressures, tire camber, suspension stiffness, brake bias, on/off throttle differential etcetc each driver would still be able to customize it to his own preferences but the on paper performance of each car would be the same. sounds good?
Yeah nah, there are already tons of series with identical or near identical cars, especially with open-wheels cars, and F1 never was about all cars being identical. It'd get more boring, because the only reason a series will get the same car for every driver is to keep costs down, but F1 isn't only a driver's championship, it's also a constructor's championship as well
@@oliviersavard8676 but they are identical, the same chassis, same engines, its like saying two golf r with different engine tunes are different, whats so innovative in 10 teams developing the same 1.6l v6 turbo with the same mgu spec, F1 lost its identity 30 years ago
I would like a special Race circuit that have the cars all same(exactly same). It would come down to what drivers and crew can pull off in such an event will be remarkable. And the points distribution should be much higher for such a race.
I don't watch F1 quite often and don't know much about it but thats my idea right there.
Is that not pretty much NASCAR
I honestly didn’t even know that different manufacturers had different cars, I thought they were all the same😂😂🤷🏾♂️
I would like to see similar cars, so there would be closer racing.
Agree. No problem! We just want to see skill and a closer race.
I think even carswould make it unbelievably hard to overtake
That is not the Tenor of Formula 1 and never was. The Pinnacle of Motorsport should not only consist of the Battles between the Drivers but between the Constructors and Part Suppliers aswell. Why not watch Indycar instead? They have all the same car.
Yeah like formula e does, that's the only thing that i like the most about formula e
Yuck
If they keep it within the playbook set by the rules this sort of stuff just makes me happy to see because it makes more teams competitive
I'd say making cars more and more similar takes away one of the biggest upsides of autoracing, the team. If you just have a bunch of the same cars it's just up to drivers and drivers alone. Sure pit stop crew will make a difference too and all, but it's not as interesting anymore. One upside though would probably be more competitive driving, which would be fun to see
1:01 Look at the resemblence!
As long as it means more competitive racing I’m totally fine with it
Engineering is also competitive. Good car + good driver= win. Bad car + good driver= loss or the other way around.
I see a lot of comments regarding an emphasis on constant innovation, and I had a question/idea:
What if, after a season, new innovations were made available (at cost) to any team which wishes to acquire those innovations?
That way you maximize performance year over year, as well as forcing (incentivizing) constant innovation every season. Your team can have a solid season with a significant advantage, but forces teams to find other ways/methods to improve even more in the next season, or face competition with the same advantages your team exclusively had in the prior season.
I'm not a huge F1 fan, but I've seen a few races in person (Monaco GP and Budapest GP) as well as online. So if you have insights as to why this might be negative, I'm all ears and curious to hear why this may be naive or a bad idea!
The diffrence between me and racing points is that im not getting caught
0:42 correction: giving Alex Albon a tough time XD
McLaren after seeing the RP20
McLaren: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!
Renault: That’s illegal
Not quite. I agree with Reneault being salty, but McLaren needs to keep quite. They running Mercedes engine's next year.
@@Rubbinz24 I thought the development freeze was going to prevent McLaren from changing to Merc engines...
@@subatenome I think they got an exception
@@NanaGlover Yeah they did. They can run Merc engines in 2021.
if there are no regulations against it, something i would like to see is less lift from the body. no contouring that slopes down in back, to allow the wings to be more effective, and maybe even allowing for active wing angles. things that would mean better use of the cars power like seen in the delta concept, but without being a tripod.
i think identical is an overstatement, taking from what works in the past has always been done, need someone to still innovate but sure makes sense to shift that philosophy, to me I find it regretable that the engines used have made it so theres very little choice but we will see, the new rulesets will certainly be a massive change on all teams ends, also taking inspiration can compromise you and usually makes you behind the one that carried it first, but in this case it was done well enough to be decent running and thats fine for the position they are in.
5:22 you could argue that Racing would rely more on the skill of the Drivers, but I like variety and I don't like copying.
(Frow germany so please excuse spelling errors.)
Excuses spelling errors, makes none... except that english is not german, nouns don't start with a capital letter
5:20 So much so that they look identical?
Me: Oh F1 cars are different?
pretty much only was able to tell the difference between the Merc and RP from the rest, as they had unique noses and the merc is low rake, and now even they are basically identical to one another!
To be fair, the nose is definitely the biggest part if the car to differentiate it from another (if we painted the cars all black).
Mercedes (and Tracing Point) has this spoon shaped nose, RB has a thin nose which look like a scuba diver mask, Renault is quite curvy and round, McLaren is started thin and gets wider at the end, while the rest of the team are following Ferrari which has this wide & blocky looking nose.
The only people who can't differentiate the cars unless they're painted different colours are the ones who watch the races to see the pretty boy win
@@xander1052 RP are under investigation for potentially illegal brake ducts. Mercedes aren't. That's because they are different.
@@garymitchell5899 That's not how it works, RP are under investigation to see if they copied mercedes's brake ducts, which is why the 2019 Merc brake ducts have been requested by the FIA, to compare to the 2020 Racing Point.
The on track action is what's most important. Compared to the mid 70s the modern cars would look very similar to each other without sponsor logos and team livery. Look at the distinct front end of the brabham and a Tyrrell with 6 wheels. I think this video said it best when it made the argument about taking someone else's design concept and making it work.
It wld b great to see all cars the same coz then we wld see which drivers are truly talented if everyone was in same equipment.
I’m just bored of the same 3 fighting for the podium. If we can get 5 or 6 teams fighting that would be more appealing
You mean two right now lol
3:47
What is the Point of having this 2 things around the chimney on each side of the car ?
"Airbox", firstly, not "Chimney". Second, those are thermal cameras used to monitor the surface temperature of the tires; one is pointing to the front, the other to the rear. No idea why one car has 1 and the other has 2.
They only use them in Free Practice and Testing I think
@@Huberman1234 i said chimney because we say that in french. Thank you, but why don't other teams use them ?
@@aloter1680 they are a lot like the aero rakes that you sometimes see on cars, it depends what kind of data the teams are collecting. other teams do run them, but racing point were probably just doing more extensive testing this year due to the radically different car. other teams would have a handle on how the tyres behave (most teams have run the same sort of car concept for 3 years in a row now) and so focused their testing on other areas of the car. no point having those bulky camera housings messing up the aero if you dont need them to be there.
Aloter they’re on the McLaren too. I’ve always wondered why they’re there, so thx guys
I don’t think look alike would be particularly great, but I would like to see much closer races which would make the already exciting F1 races even more so.
I would agree with this. Every change in rule which is providing the drivers with more equal opportunities is very welcome for me. I want to a fair as possible competition and so it makes sense to allow copying or even equal parts for the teams.
Until 1980 it was allowed to purchase all parts from other teams and so copying an entire car.
Within the American CART Championship this is also allowed even today, what makes smaller teams more competitive and reduces costs massively.
In my opinion a great idea even for the formula 1.
This one reminds me of Japan’s first jet engine in WWII, where they straight up copied Germany’s turbojet design just by looking at pictures of them. I’m pretty sure if the submarines carrying the turbojet components arrived in Japan, the development time would’ve been cut short significantly. They had to make do with the wartime situation, thus creating the NK-20 based on the BMW-003 design. Any idiot can copy a homework and get away with it, but it takes some brain power to understand what you’re copying.
Great writeup! Once again, they copied the Germans heh.
USSR copied everything too
I always had that question popping up in my head but I was too afraid of asking someone and they think I'm stupid, so thanks. :)
This is explained so much better than in the netflix documentary
Cyril is just salty that he lost to both daddy point’s
What cuz??
"We look like a bunch of wankers"