DIY Fire Assay of Gold Ore, Beginning to End | How much gold?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @AUMINER1
    @AUMINER1 Год назад +9

    Excellent! The instruments you have created are as impressive as the fact that you figured out such a complicated and failure prone process in such a short amount of time. :)

    • @jdeluisa
      @jdeluisa Год назад +3

      I agree, very impressive microbalance. Obviously an engineer.

  • @surefireKorea
    @surefireKorea Год назад +2

    Your 3 kW pottery kiln is impressive. You make excellent use of low cost materials in its construction, yet are able to achieve excellent performance and quality. That, in itself, is the mark of an efficient and cost effective design. I learned something useful here. Thanks for your time and effort!

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      Nice comment, thanks. Kilns are interesting to design and build and much cheaper to make than a commercial model. There are pitfalls, however... -- Dave

  • @markanderson3740
    @markanderson3740 Год назад

    I'm so happy to have stumbled onto your channel, It's so refreshing to watch somone besides sreetips follow an actual system they've followed hundreds of times before. your assay was clear, controlled, and conclusive. The ones who constantly add new variables like different flux methods between samples are just untrustworthy. thank you for creating content with confidence.

  • @ericschultz5413
    @ericschultz5413 Год назад +2

    Excellent, straight forward and informative video. Thank you for your hard work in producing it!

  • @Sol-g8f
    @Sol-g8f 3 месяца назад

    I am very happy to see someone who is proficient and distinguished in what he does. I applaud you for this wonderful effort. In this regard, I would like to draw your attention to the electrolysis of metals and mixing them with salts such as sea salt and placing copper electrodes at a specific voltage, for example 12 volts, 3 volts, or 1.5 volts. Leaving it to produce results from this solution, transforming them, precipitating them, and melting them so that we can see what this new birth is. This is just an example of many options that are likely to result in amazing things. It is just working for pleasure and thinking about God’s creation in this great universe. I greet you again, wonderful person. I am following you from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 👍

  • @brixtonnabunat1822
    @brixtonnabunat1822 10 месяцев назад

    You made fire assaying very easy and simple to do, I'm so glad that i found your channel, new subscriber here! ❤❤❤❤

  • @MerchantMarineGuy
    @MerchantMarineGuy Год назад +1

    This is truest impressive work, and very well taught. Thank you!

  • @gregbilotta2472
    @gregbilotta2472 Год назад +1

    The algorithm has brought me here and I am pleased with its gift

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      Haha. Yes, we are all guided by the great algorithm....

  • @eduardbuletsa9485
    @eduardbuletsa9485 Год назад +2

    Immediate subscription! 👏
    Did you see a metallic gold in magnifying glass of this ore after you crash the stones?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +2

      I didn't look. Next time I will.

  • @pertinentparadigm1337
    @pertinentparadigm1337 Год назад

    Wow, you're a genius!

  • @criscris5061
    @criscris5061 Год назад +2

    Increíble

  • @jdeluisa
    @jdeluisa Год назад +1

    Interesting vid. I enjoy your videos. I find it interesting that you use Chapman's flux for assay work. Any thoughts on that? In his book, Chapman suggests that Mg Dioxide can cause silver values to report to the slag. It also seems like more litharge could be beneficial when assaying 100 g of material. One assayer that I have worked with uses significantly more litharge, even in smaller samples. Others have suggested this to me as well. Finally, why not part and weigh? The math calculations may not account for other values like PGM's.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      You are correct on all accounts. I'm trying to part the gold beads right now. It's another step that needs to be mastered. I'll soon have exhausted my supply of Chapman's. At that point I'll move to just Borax and Sodium Carbonate as the flux. More Litharge requires larger cupels. I've been running some experiments on that aspect and I'll report in a later video. Thanks!

  • @thestolensol7
    @thestolensol7 Месяц назад

    Could you please give me a link to explain the math you used to find the percentage of gold to silver after cupelling!

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Месяц назад +1

      I'll make a video.

  • @jeffbybee5207
    @jeffbybee5207 Год назад

    It seems your cushing and siving would preferentially keep the softest friable part of the sample. Would not this throw off the assay of the ore?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      I've wondered the same thing. It must skew the analysis at least a bit. -- Dave

  • @kerrihansen2413
    @kerrihansen2413 6 месяцев назад

    HOW does that last orangish ingredient you add determine the size of the finished button? And is the black glass the melted sand?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Kerri, The orange material is Lead Oxide (Litharge). The charge is 100 grams of ore, 100 grams of Borax, 100 grams of Soda Ash, 100 grams of Chapman's flux from Legend, Inc., 30 grams of Litharge and one iron rod. Bring the charge to 2100 F and soak for 10 minutes.

  • @balajiramamoorthy1476
    @balajiramamoorthy1476 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why you have added iron rod??

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  7 месяцев назад +1

      The iron captures any remaining sulfur and converts it to FeS, which is easily dissolved in and removed by the flux.

  • @ashotarzumanyan9958
    @ashotarzumanyan9958 5 месяцев назад

    How many celsius does you heater Heat ?
    Thanks

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  5 месяцев назад +1

      The pottery kiln can get up to 1200C

  • @samGold27
    @samGold27 Месяц назад

    The cupel is for one time use only plz ??

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Месяц назад +1

      One cupel can handle 35 grams of lead, so it can be used several times, depending on the weight of the lead button, or just once if the lead buttons are large.

  • @deecember69
    @deecember69 Месяц назад

    Do you sell the magnifying device?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Месяц назад +1

      Not yet but I'm looking for someone who wants to make and sell them.

  • @aidanwhite6711
    @aidanwhite6711 Год назад

    Hello, why cant you use the same furnace for smelting and cupelling?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      I could and most people do. The large furnace takes a long time to heat, so I prefer the smaller furnace for cupelling. Why not use the small furnace for smelting? Because I like the larger charge that I can get into the #5 crucible. Good question.

  • @TerribleShmeltingAccident
    @TerribleShmeltingAccident Год назад

    actual flower? like the kind you use to bake bread?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      Yeah, we just need a handy source of carbon.

    • @TerribleShmeltingAccident
      @TerribleShmeltingAccident Год назад

      @@orophilia how does the carbon affect the reaction?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +2

      @@TerribleShmeltingAccident The carbon acts as a reducing agent. The lead, in the form of PbO, is reduced to metallic lead by reduction. -- Dave

  • @jothimurugan2319
    @jothimurugan2319 4 месяца назад

    Sir What is the name of the rock you have assayed ?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  4 месяца назад +1

      It is from a quartz vein.

  • @johnsabatka2978
    @johnsabatka2978 Год назад

    Where did you get that classifier?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      From Amazon. It's a cake flour sieve: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZRJFYH1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  • @arotogtech
    @arotogtech Год назад

    Wanted to ask your opinion if it js okay with you.
    Outcrops grabbed from on top of the reef on the ground surface fire assayed 0.22g/t and 0.19 g/t respectively. What is your general opinion of this?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      That would be very low grade and not worth pursuing in my opinion. It does show that the area has gold, so you might want to keep looking. How are you getting the assays done? Good luck with your hunt. -- Dave

    • @arotogtech
      @arotogtech Год назад

      @@orophilia
      Hi mate. Thank you for your opinion. We'll, I got them fire assayed. They were grab sample quartz boulders from the top of a certain mountain.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      @@arotogtech Look for the highly mineralized quartz veins and take samples directly from the vein. Can I ask how much you paid for the assay? -- Dave

    • @arotogtech
      @arotogtech Год назад

      @@orophilia
      The question is, how do you look for the highly mineralised quartz vein? I just dowsed using copper rods...... do you have any other methods......? You could share a few tips...... I paid $25 each.....

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      @@arotogtech The quartz should have lots of inclusions of brown / purple / black material. The more ugly and rusty the better. -- Dave

  • @ايكوسان-ذ5ص
    @ايكوسان-ذ5ص Год назад

    لكن هل يمكن تركيز الذهب عبر الغسل لهذا الخام ، أو ان الذهب سيهدر مع الغسل

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      "But is it possible to concentrate the gold by washing this ore, or will the gold be wasted during the washing?" Yes, in practice we would first concentrate the gold in the ore by fine grinding and then performing some sort of gravity separation. Good question, thanks. -- Dave

    • @ايكوسان-ذ5ص
      @ايكوسان-ذ5ص Год назад

      @@orophilia thank you

    • @ايكوسان-ذ5ص
      @ايكوسان-ذ5ص Год назад

      @@orophilia thank you

  • @yuhangqian6991
    @yuhangqian6991 Год назад +1

    Where is the cupel produced,India or China?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      I use Mabor cupels. I'm not able to determine the country of origin. -- Dave

    • @yuhangqian6991
      @yuhangqian6991 Год назад

      @@orophilia Mabor cupel is produced from India.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      @@yuhangqian6991 Thanks!

  • @soso.123m4
    @soso.123m4 Год назад

    Which size have these mabor cupels?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      The one that can absorb 35 grams of lead.

  • @MohimSk-q2h
    @MohimSk-q2h Месяц назад

    300g পাওডারটি কি ছিলো

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Месяц назад

      That is a flux mixture containing equal parts Borax, Sodium Carbonate and Chapman's flux.

  • @กันญาดาพิชญศิริกุล

    Good morning 🌄 my 🙏

  • @SURFEAMORETERNO
    @SURFEAMORETERNO Год назад

    If the ore also contains some silver,where is it?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      The silver is also in the bead but in very small quantities. I try to explain the way I measure it at the end of the video but it might not be so clear. -- Dave

    • @SURFEAMORETERNO
      @SURFEAMORETERNO Год назад

      Thanks for the answer.
      Be cautious of fumes. I recently placed an ore of the Platinum group to dissolve in aqua regia, and was surprised to find Osmium, whose salts are extremely toxic. Luckily I used a fume hood with a filter and handled small amounts.
      My equipment is also "Frankestein's"
      A hug!

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад

      @@SURFEAMORETERNO Yeah, thanks. I always use a good respirator. Very interesting to find Osmium! -- Dave

    • @SURFEAMORETERNO
      @SURFEAMORETERNO Год назад

      Interesting but too complicated to separate the Platinum group metals to be able to refine, especially when Osmium Iridium and Ruthenium are present. It takes special facilities, sophisticated equipment and a lot of knowledge. You believe that Platinum Chloride is toxic until the day you put the whole gang in solution. Things get really violent.
      A hug!.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +1

      @@SURFEAMORETERNO The world is a beautiful, interesting and complicated place. Un abrazo. -- Dave

  • @aliosmankucukpacalar
    @aliosmankucukpacalar Год назад

    Turksh translate plz

  • @myadventure7069
    @myadventure7069 Год назад

    I sometimes thinking why people getting gold expensive way possible

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  Год назад +2

      This just an assay, but yes, it's a very expensive way to get a couple of milligrams. On the other hand, it's one great hobby! Thanks for the comment. -- Dave

    • @myadventure7069
      @myadventure7069 Год назад

      I using chemicals to recover gold