Temperament, can't blame any league or person. Cricket has changed, is changing and will change, batters need to adapt here. Switch from white and red ball ain't easy, and they're required to do it more frequently. Idk, maybe after a time will reach a point where we have distinguished players for both balls, but as of now, we are trying a mix and after trial and error, will be back!
As Pujara said yesterday, Old School cricket and adaptation to conditions and bowling attack helps rather than going Blitz all the time. Lose wickets easy going for risky shots
Cricket with a packed calendar is a chaos at this point. ODIs are almost gone and they either play tests or T20s, and since T20s have big money, I don't think many test specialists will come in future. I think tests will remain like this in future unless some significant changes are made.
It's just that if you focus on power hitting ability in white ball game your red ball game gets affected. I think eventually we could see a 6 innings test match if matches keep on ending on 1st session of 4th day if things keep on going like this and players don't change their mindset and i think that'll will be cool too
Thats never going to happen, we just need more competitive pitches. In the 2000s, test cricket was played on flat pitches like Pak, England and even India. Nowadays pitches are curated in a manner that the ball is either ragging sideways or bouncing all over the place.
@@iwillattainmyredemption3028 Yeah, in the ongoing test, ball was seaming more than 1° on day 1. Just to put it in context, Sachin, Dravid and Lara averaged 30, 25 and 20 respectively when the ball seamed more than 0.75°
Main reason is- Sachin generation mostly played on flat tracks where 500+ used to be normal score on ind pitches and matches used to end on day 5 with many draws. But currently 200 is winning score in ind because of minefield pitches and match ends in 2-3 days with no draws.
Sachin played 80 matches out of 200 in 1989-2000(90s) which was probably worst era to bat in and averaged 58 . The major issue is technique and temperament. Sachin have played few matches on only those high scoring pitches of SCG rest all didn't change much . Very few batsman now can play multiple formats while in 90s 20s 2010s almost all of the top players did . Numbers don't show you much. Game demands much more athleticism now but demands less perseverance and concentration. Also please spare sachin out of this conversation, he is great regardless of the era . If you have watched him live in 90s and 2000s would've not made this statement. Also test matches used to go longer because people didn't use to throw their wickets it used to be very slow and safe , as i said mindset has been changed and big difference in technique you wouldn't see a plyer in 90s 2000s getting out on same ball for over 4-5 years (eg, Kohli ,KL ,shaw)or anyone getting out on a rash shot (Pant , rohit )happens very frequently now
One of the best ways to break down averages and run rates is to use true avg and true run rates They show a better difference. Tldr it has never been harder to bat than now.
Kookaburra ball change + bowling wickets as simple as that heres an interesting stat away averages when bowl seams more then 0.75 degrees: smith 35.4 kohli 31.2 sachin 30.8 root 30.1 lara 28 ponting 26.6 Dravid 26.5 Williamson 22.1.....in extreme bowling conditions modern batters have been better period
Batting in white ball is becoming easier with time whereas its the opposite in red ball. The effect of t20 cricket can seen on other 2 formats but in contrasting manner in odi cricket teams end up scoring 300+ on regular basis on the other hand team totals in test has dropped in last 10 years earlier teams used to score 500,600+ runs in innings in all conditions but we hardly see 500+ total, 5th day has become a reserve day only to be used in rain interrupted matches as the art of playing long innings is dying.
shouldn't you guys hv considered one fact that, there were a considerable no of batting all-rounders (batsmen who can occasionally bowl) in earlier generations, meant a small change or rather increase in avg n strike rate of bowlers back then. as of today we are having bowlers n more of bowlers who can bat, and we don't use the Ganguly Dhoni era of part time bowlers
Jarrod Kimber has spoken extensibly about this. DRS has changed the way bowlers bowl, and opened up a mountain of LBWs that previously would have been given not out. Plonking your front foot out is no longer a viable defense against LBW like it was in 2004. The evolution of the wobble ball, and the ability for bowlers to have the ball move after it has bounced, rather than out of the hand has made it infinitely harder for players to know what way the ball is going. Additionally, the wobble ball can be bowled well later than the swinging ball. The addition of the wobble ball has also brough the stumps into play significantly more, prior the the wobble ball, you rarely saw on the stumps pace bowling because a player could easily flick it away on the leg side, hence why we saw Steve Waugh's comical 7-8-9-10-27 men slip cordons, because outswing was the name of the game and odds were you were knicking off. That relies of alot of factors as well, that the player plays actually edge it (rather than play and miss), it then had to go in the direction of a slip fielder (not through, over, in between or wide of them), it then relies on them to actually catch it, and not have bricks for hands. By bringing the stumps into play. a bowler is not reliant on a fielder to ensure the catch or a batter to hit it, they are fundamentally relying on the batter to miss it. This then also takes away the leave as an option, which i statistically the safest stroke. The seam of the balls have also been played around with as well, allowing the seam to stay prominent for alot longer than previously, so even if players were bowling the wobble ball previously (whether by accident or intentionally), it remains viable for much longer. Analytics has become more prevelant, hence bowlers are significantly more aware of players' strengths and weaknesses and how pitches play. Right-arm pace bowlers almost always bowl aroun the wicket to left handers now, short of a very select few. In 2004, if you bwoled around the wicket, it was because you had run out of ideas, or you faced being called weak as piss, now, if you don't start around the wicket, you are a pariah. The amount of preparation that goes into a game today is way more than it has ever been. Now, you can say batters are also more prepared - yes, but the act of batting is fundamentally reactionary, you have that .2 or .5 of a second to react, preparation can only do so much.
A more specific analysis would be, averages and scores in conditions aiding seam, swing or spin. That would definitely show the stark difference in techniques of the previous gen from this one.
I wanted to ask something, why do some players bat with their left hand and bowl with their right? Some examples are rabada, Hazlewood and ben stokes, even Washington Sundar. Is it only personal choice, or does it have some other significance?
It's to not put strain in their dominant hand. The dominant hand is where they prefer to bowl on it which requires lot of strength and stress to work on. We can even see them whilst fielding using the non-dominant hand to throw the ball sometimes.
Pace bowlers are more skillful now. I don't mean they are better than previous generations but they have found something that has enabled them to seam the ball significantly almost 35% of the time. In McGrath's era it was closer to 20%. More if not most guys in the past 8-10 years are wobble seam bowlers and that's why bowlers like Boland,Abbas, Stuart Broad until quite recently transformed themselves as pace bowlers. A guy like Dane Paterson ,120-130km can run through any batting lineup with the assistance of that ball in slightly helpful conditions
Also i just made an observation that we haven’t seen Batsmen scoring triple hundreds in test matches anymore! Back then it was quite common to see triple hundreds being scored! Batsmen just dont bat for that long now i guess ✌️
Bowlers are not doing great but the batters are playing the worst cricket in last 10-15 years.. if the ball is doing little bit than run scoring is impossible for today's batters
Whom to blame? Alot of t20s,baseball ,jaseball,etc definitely hit the test cricket for sure. Along with WTC cycle also affecting the test cricket..now test cricket has become tension cricket.
Nah blame reinforced seam,bowling surfaces and the wobble bowl......in extreme bowling conditions(seam movement >0.75°)modern greats average better that prev generation only outlier is williamsom
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sick data breakdown boys. that's a mad amount of info for under 10min
with just 14k subs 😔
Best channel to follow for Cricket Insights. Good job guys 🔥
thank you, appreciate the kind words!
If you think the present generation cricketers are bad at test cricket , the next generation is gonna be worse
Temperament, can't blame any league or person. Cricket has changed, is changing and will change, batters need to adapt here. Switch from white and red ball ain't easy, and they're required to do it more frequently.
Idk, maybe after a time will reach a point where we have distinguished players for both balls, but as of now, we are trying a mix and after trial and error, will be back!
As Pujara said yesterday, Old School cricket and adaptation to conditions and bowling attack helps rather than going Blitz all the time. Lose wickets easy going for risky shots
Cricket with a packed calendar is a chaos at this point. ODIs are almost gone and they either play tests or T20s, and since T20s have big money, I don't think many test specialists will come in future. I think tests will remain like this in future unless some significant changes are made.
DRS is a much bigger factor
It's just that if you focus on power hitting ability in white ball game your red ball game gets affected.
I think eventually we could see a 6 innings test match if matches keep on ending on 1st session of 4th day if things keep on going like this and players don't change their mindset and i think that'll will be cool too
Thats never going to happen, we just need more competitive pitches. In the 2000s, test cricket was played on flat pitches like Pak, England and even India. Nowadays pitches are curated in a manner that the ball is either ragging sideways or bouncing all over the place.
@@WeebAFWell, that's what makes test cricket nowadays even more interesting.
@@iwillattainmyredemption3028 Yeah, in the ongoing test, ball was seaming more than 1° on day 1. Just to put it in context, Sachin, Dravid and Lara averaged 30, 25 and 20 respectively when the ball seamed more than 0.75°
@@WeebAF Smith 35 kohli 30 Root 30.....in same conditions
@@WeebAF plus reinforced seams and the wobble bowl pandemic
also yes please, yes to the video on drs and how it affects technique
Main reason is- Sachin generation mostly played on flat tracks where 500+ used to be normal score on ind pitches and matches used to end on day 5 with many draws. But currently 200 is winning score in ind because of minefield pitches and match ends in 2-3 days with no draws.
Sachin played 80 matches out of 200 in 1989-2000(90s) which was probably worst era to bat in and averaged 58 . The major issue is technique and temperament. Sachin have played few matches on only those high scoring pitches of SCG rest all didn't change much . Very few batsman now can play multiple formats while in 90s 20s 2010s almost all of the top players did . Numbers don't show you much. Game demands much more athleticism now but demands less perseverance and concentration. Also please spare sachin out of this conversation, he is great regardless of the era . If you have watched him live in 90s and 2000s would've not made this statement. Also test matches used to go longer because people didn't use to throw their wickets it used to be very slow and safe , as i said mindset has been changed and big difference in technique you wouldn't see a plyer in 90s 2000s getting out on same ball for over 4-5 years (eg, Kohli ,KL ,shaw)or anyone getting out on a rash shot (Pant , rohit )happens very frequently now
One of the best ways to break down averages and run rates is to use true avg and true run rates
They show a better difference.
Tldr it has never been harder to bat than now.
Kookaburra ball change + bowling wickets as simple as that heres an interesting stat away averages when bowl seams more then 0.75 degrees: smith 35.4 kohli 31.2 sachin 30.8 root 30.1 lara 28 ponting 26.6 Dravid 26.5 Williamson 22.1.....in extreme bowling conditions modern batters have been better period
lovely stat this!
Batting in white ball is becoming easier with time whereas its the opposite in red ball. The effect of t20 cricket can seen on other 2 formats but in contrasting manner in odi cricket teams end up scoring 300+ on regular basis on the other hand team totals in test has dropped in last 10 years earlier teams used to score 500,600+ runs in innings in all conditions but we hardly see 500+ total, 5th day has become a reserve day only to be used in rain interrupted matches as the art of playing long innings is dying.
3:40 and nostalgia merchants have the audacity to say the old era had better pacers
shouldn't you guys hv considered one fact that, there were a considerable no of batting
all-rounders (batsmen who can occasionally bowl) in earlier generations, meant a small change or rather increase in avg n strike rate of bowlers back then. as of today we are having bowlers n more of bowlers who can bat, and we don't use the Ganguly Dhoni era of part time bowlers
Previously Raina ,Kohli , Rohit used to bowl quite frequently
This channel will grow to millions soon
Jarrod Kimber has spoken extensibly about this.
DRS has changed the way bowlers bowl, and opened up a mountain of LBWs that previously would have been given not out. Plonking your front foot out is no longer a viable defense against LBW like it was in 2004.
The evolution of the wobble ball, and the ability for bowlers to have the ball move after it has bounced, rather than out of the hand has made it infinitely harder for players to know what way the ball is going. Additionally, the wobble ball can be bowled well later than the swinging ball. The addition of the wobble ball has also brough the stumps into play significantly more, prior the the wobble ball, you rarely saw on the stumps pace bowling because a player could easily flick it away on the leg side, hence why we saw Steve Waugh's comical 7-8-9-10-27 men slip cordons, because outswing was the name of the game and odds were you were knicking off. That relies of alot of factors as well, that the player plays actually edge it (rather than play and miss), it then had to go in the direction of a slip fielder (not through, over, in between or wide of them), it then relies on them to actually catch it, and not have bricks for hands. By bringing the stumps into play. a bowler is not reliant on a fielder to ensure the catch or a batter to hit it, they are fundamentally relying on the batter to miss it. This then also takes away the leave as an option, which i statistically the safest stroke.
The seam of the balls have also been played around with as well, allowing the seam to stay prominent for alot longer than previously, so even if players were bowling the wobble ball previously (whether by accident or intentionally), it remains viable for much longer.
Analytics has become more prevelant, hence bowlers are significantly more aware of players' strengths and weaknesses and how pitches play. Right-arm pace bowlers almost always bowl aroun the wicket to left handers now, short of a very select few. In 2004, if you bwoled around the wicket, it was because you had run out of ideas, or you faced being called weak as piss, now, if you don't start around the wicket, you are a pariah. The amount of preparation that goes into a game today is way more than it has ever been. Now, you can say batters are also more prepared - yes, but the act of batting is fundamentally reactionary, you have that .2 or .5 of a second to react, preparation can only do so much.
Insane analysis. Keep up the good work.
A more specific analysis would be, averages and scores in conditions aiding seam, swing or spin. That would definitely show the stark difference in techniques of the previous gen from this one.
I wanted to ask something, why do some players bat with their left hand and bowl with their right? Some examples are rabada, Hazlewood and ben stokes, even Washington Sundar. Is it only personal choice, or does it have some other significance?
It's to not put strain in their dominant hand. The dominant hand is where they prefer to bowl on it which requires lot of strength and stress to work on. We can even see them whilst fielding using the non-dominant hand to throw the ball sometimes.
Idk I also play some cricket I bat with left and bowl with right
@@OnnumMuttaiyum thanks mate
Amazing analysis
New Video Idea: HOTSPOT - Why India doesn't use it and would it helped clear KL Rahul Wicket ?
It's on the broadcasters and they don't wanna spend too much money on it
Cause hotspot is expensive af
Where is AB de villiers, he is not tere in both the lists? His average is 50.7........
The best video on this channel thus far, I’m afraid. Amazing breakdown, boys. Just stat-ein.
Jarrod Kimber had mentioned that the time period from 2000 - 2017 is the best period for batting whereas from 2018 pitches started detoriating
Pace bowlers are more skillful now. I don't mean they are better than previous generations but they have found something that has enabled them to seam the ball significantly almost 35% of the time. In McGrath's era it was closer to 20%.
More if not most guys in the past 8-10 years are wobble seam bowlers and that's why bowlers like Boland,Abbas, Stuart Broad until quite recently transformed themselves as pace bowlers. A guy like Dane Paterson ,120-130km can run through any batting lineup with the assistance of that ball in slightly helpful conditions
Great channel for cricket lovers!
Also i just made an observation that we haven’t seen Batsmen scoring triple hundreds in test matches anymore! Back then it was quite common to see triple hundreds being scored! Batsmen just dont bat for that long now i guess ✌️
Absolutely brilliant stuff regarding each and every data collection.
Underrated channel
Bowlers are not doing great but the batters are playing the worst cricket in last 10-15 years.. if the ball is doing little bit than run scoring is impossible for today's batters
yess please, i always wanted to see an in depth analysis of Effect of DRS in cricket
Hi how do you get the videos? any copyright issues or do you take permission ?
great analysis guys
really great
Whom to blame? Alot of t20s,baseball ,jaseball,etc definitely hit the test cricket for sure. Along with WTC cycle also affecting the test cricket..now test cricket has become tension cricket.
Nah blame reinforced seam,bowling surfaces and the wobble bowl......in extreme bowling conditions(seam movement >0.75°)modern greats average better that prev generation only outlier is williamsom
Ah yes , just saw a 90 and 62 in 57 overs , surely the worst test batters
Yes we need effect of drs in modern day cricket.
Advent of ipl maybe the most prominent reason 😂
Test Championship awards less points for a draw match than a tie match!
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Another Solid video
Insane analysis boys
You should try patching up with Jarrod Kimber
Drs video please
Bruh good work but its very simle tbh.....just see the average seam movement outside asia and spin in asia youll clearly see when avgs dropped
DO VIDEO ON HW WILL PUCKOVSKI HAD TO RETIRE BECOZ OF SHORT BALLS
DRS influence video please, I love it
You guys e insane,keep goin
We want DRS video
Deep study good job 👍
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@artherfleck7383 who said you get lost
Nobody cares
@@cricketnow374 cry then
@@Chesser_gang it’s time for bed little boy
such a time waste video.