Its like no one in the comment section can use the internet. The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
Exactly this! I ordered an RS3 Back in October, Carbon addition with options, price was £56k, at £78k upwards for the M3 I would have gone with my at the time alternative choice Porsche.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo If you'd done your research properly, you'd have found that those prices are cheeky people trying to resell 'launch edition' RS3's for far more than they paid for it, just because there's a lot of covid-related demand at the moment. To order new, the RS3 is just as they stated - between £52 - £65Kish. Do better homework next time.
@@chamaldealwis9 the mark up you mention is the Launch Edition that dealers have sourced and are selling for crazy mark up cause people are crazy enough to pay that instead of waiting, go order one and find the correct price. If you watch the video they even tell you the one they are driving is 60,000 and that M3 is from 78,000 to mid 80s so your price figures are wrong
Autocar: We're on a public road which means I can't do any more than 60 miles an hour. Also Autocar: Go and buy this 180mph carbon-ceramic braked sports saloon, it's great!
Yes an no though. What is BMWs competitor to the RS3 Sportback…? The M135i 😂 Cool car but different leave. RS3 saloon, maybe the 2 series Gran Coupe 🤮 is the rival. It’s interesting that for once they’re not really stepping on each other toes. BMW goes hyper with a Coupe M2, Audi does the hyper hatch and mini saloon.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo These type of comments are so cringe and the most embarrassing thing about car culture. Who is destroying who? Unless you're a bona fide race car driver; performance numbers count for very little to the average driver.
Gotta say m3 is in a completely different league to the rs3 and I think the rs3 is overpriced for what you get ! It's just got a fantastic motor in it the rest of the car is quite ordinary ,
Especially if you're referring to the RS3 hatchback. The pricing completely misses the point of what a hot hatch is meant to be. I guess the A45s has company in that sense.
@@Muzix2daEarz yea but that is just your subjective opinion. I didn't think they looked that nice until a neighbour got one and they look awesome in real life and as a drivers car, wipe the floor with the competition
@@stopp23 lol these Audi fangirl tears are delicious 😋 . This is a UK show. And at the time this video has been released you can buy an M3/M4 2021 cheaper than a 2021 Audi RS3. And it's not even close which one is better. A stage 1 remap on the BMW gives over 700bhp. Only a complete idiot would buy that Audi over that stonking S58. And learn how to use the Internet and basic economics.
So a stage 1 ecu remap adds over 200bhp does it? Lmao in what world is that ever the case. I’ve driven both and the M3 granted it was RWD didn’t feel barely any quicker
Real world pricing is closer than you think. High prices on rs3 due to limited supply and Bmw dealers discounting stock g80s hard because they aren’t selling
Well that was the most obvious, disingenuous piece of hatchet job motoring "journalism" I have watched in a long time. These two clowns and their year five editorial team must have been on Audi aversion therapy for a week before scripting this nonesense. Any semblance of credibility they had left was just completely trashed. What's your next episode 🤔 Challenger Tank vs Audi Q8 on Salisbury plain perhaps?
I just switched from the 8V RS3 to the new G80 M3C RWD and they're different leagues of car. I still miss my RS3 as its smaller and more my style ... so the 8Y is on order but I'm glad I tried the G80 M3C and its definitely a special car, torque and power all across the powerband. Thank you for the video!
@@6820berlin stock for stock, G80 M3, tuned and exhaust ... RS3. I do have a 8Y RS3 now and I wanted to go with an M3 but decided otherwise for the time being.
@@shamialchaudhry1640 interior is great, but the head unit is a little funky ... gets stuck with carplay at times. But overall the fit and finish are great, much better than 8V!
@@SchwaboChannelmy 2022 rs3 warranty is ending next year so i’ve been looking for other awd performance cars as my new daily. i love the rs3 so much that i waited for the 2025 facelift. sad to say, the facelift is a disappointment and now i’m stuck on either ordering a 2024 rs3 or 2025 g80 comp. what would you say are the biggest differences between the two in general?
You would also compare it to c63 amg (because this is rival for m3) ? No, because it’s rival for a45s not c63 so why on earth do You do this comparison ? Price difference between them is normal price difference between two segments not sure what You have been trying to tell in this material… and if You look on the comments i’m not the only who thinks like that.
@@Gez492 No it wouldn't. They're not drag racing the cars, they're picking which one is better to drive and live with. So RWD and drive M3s would both murder RS3 and RS4.
Sorry guys, I agree that the M3 is the better car. Anyway, I ordered an RS3 Sportback with a “decent” spec and, with dealer discount, I paid it 65k€ (will have to wait until June…). Before I was looking for an M3 RWD and, with dealer discount again, I couldn’t go below 95k€. So 30k€ is quite a gap. Here in Italy the situation is like this, I do not know in GB :)
@@cpandsooz I feel like car reviewers should generally analyze the market before making these kind of statements. List price ist always quite different to the real world price, which is at the end what matters for us :) Anyway, congrats! Hope we can enjoy our RS 3 soon.
Autocar this has to be the lamest comparison that I’ve ever seen you do. Damn straight the M3 better feel more special, it’s 20k more!! As for the Audi, if you know how to drive an AWD car with some short lag, you will have “just as much” fun in it, LOL.
yes I confirm that but when you look at a used one they are kinda the same tbh also I noticed the M sport cars hold their Value better than RS sports cars
As long as Audi makes the drive train front wheel biased it'll always be cleaning up BMW's table scraps. Had a B7 RS4 and its engine was glorious, but it still wanted to push because that V8 hung halfway in from of the axle. The RS3 doesn't have this issue but this front biased nonsense for a performance car is just not a lot of fun for the driver despite clever electronics. BMW's driving dynamics have always been leaps and bounds above Audi's having owned both RS and M cars imo, but you're right on the price point. The better direct comparison would be the M2C which is a better performance car as well over any RS saloon, avant or coupe(R8 not with standing).
They absolutely do not. 2018 RS’s are still going for 90-95% of MSRP. 1 year old M cars are losing much more value (even though I think M cars are superior)
Not sure why everyone's upset in the comments saying the cars aren't in the same class. I searched for this exact comparison. The lack of availability for the RS3 combined with the people that overpaid and saturated the m3 market selling for xdrive/ to save equity has them nearly overlapping on price in the states. (5-10k difference tops) This review gave me every answer I was looking for as a former R owner that knows mqb understeer / turbo lag well👍🏾
“The BMW feels a bit more special”? Are you a professional journalist or car reviewer? Whatever way it’s cut this ‘test’ is a joke. There are young guys out there in RUclips with no budget and filming on an iPhone creating more relatable content.
A standard RS3 Saloon starts at a touch over £53k the Cheapest M3 Competition XDrive starts at £78.5k. £25k is a boot load of cash in anyone's book. Personally I'd save the cash and have a Standard RS3 Saloon in Tango Red. Looks way better, Sounds better. Smaller. Job done..
I think because car prices have gone up so much in recent times its easier to justify comparing cars that are 50k to 70k. It wont be long before the golf R gets compared to the RS3 and so on....
What a ridiculous review, these cars are £25k-£30k apart! They talk about the RS3 with all the options ticked and compare it to a base price M3. Tick the options on the BMW and you’re paying over a £100k for a 3 series which will probably have the fastest facelift in history with a front looking like that.
They talk about the new list prices in the video. The auto trader prices are irrelevant. The price of the M3 when it first came out was also heavily inflated!
All you need to know about this review is the skewed price comparison at the beginning sets the tone for the rest of the review. The RS3 starts at £53k and the max I could spec one to was £65k whilst the M3 comp starts at £75k and the max I could spec to was £99k. So not even remotely close like you are lead to believe. So what could have been a fun review turns into some sort of massive reach for how these two cars are rivals on the price front which they actually aren’t at all and continues on from there with the usual cliches. Matt is a great reviewer/writer/editor but this is poor, I’d expect this from influencer type RUclipsrs not a professional.
@@KainSwiss Supply and demand kids. The bottom line is the Audi RS3 is as expe size as the M3. There's a reason none are up for sale because no one is stupid enough to buy one.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo As you’ve already nullified your own point by pointing out supply and demand is the reason for the inflated price then I don’t need to explain to you why it’s more expensive on auto trader. If someone is stupid enough to pay over the odds for a car to get it 6 months earlier that’s their issue, my original observation still stands.
Come on, is it April 1st already? That M3 is what, £20k or even £30k more than the RS3 when optioned up. In fact, fully optioned that BMW is nudging £100k and a fully optioned RS3 around £66k . Massive difference. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
Just about as expensive as that??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 RS3 From £51k M3 XDrive from £78k If £27k is nearly the same price then WTF. I’m sorry I know you CAN spec the RS3 with silly options but it’s AT LEAST £15-20k difference. Tsk Tsk Autocar bias M3 XDrive Vs a £110k C4GTS then hmmmm fair 🤡🤯🧐 Agree though an M3 is better than the RS3 saloon. How about the RS3 Sportback vs an M135i?
RS3 goes against the M2. The M2 is a much better car. The old M140i with basic mods is as good as the Audi. Infact for the same money as the RS3 you could buy an M140i, slap some pure turbos on it, get the best suspension and tyres money can buy and it would be a better, faster and cheaper car lol. And HD have a deposit for a house left over.
Just the looks would swerve me to the Audi over the BMW but in all honesty theses cars are not in the same category and the Audi wasn’t aimed at competing against the M3 anyway. I got the feeling the video was pretty biased all the way through towards the BMW which like I said is not in the same league anyway so pretty inaccurate to compare them against each other and maybe also a couple of inaccurate comments in here as I think he said plastic paddles in the Audi where as every other review I heard they were in fact metal.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo The RS3 and M3 are not in the same league so comparing them is like comparing apples to eggs and you need to check your prices also as that M3 is in a higher price bracket also, perhaps you go check. Throw that M3 and that RS3 up against cars more in their league and give us a review as it would be more beneficial but just because they are both all wheel drive doesn’t mean they are
@@knight2425 I don't need to check anything. I just told you where to look. You can't buy an RS3 for cheaper than the price stated above. And the most expensive is £80k.
For sure, if you want to buy a good M car best get looking in the history books. If you want a massively heavy and powerful car...just skip the current M cars and get a Tesla.
@@gw7624 IMO RS3 wins until it have drift mode that make it just as fun as M3 and have better engine with better potential. And the biggest issue for M3... It is hideous!
@@stopp23 Drift mode isn't going to make a front-biased car more fun than an M3, and the RS3's engine doesn't have better potential than the M3's. Styling wise, neither car is pretty, but I'd take the one with the obviously-RWD proportions.
In my experience and taking discounts into account there is roughly only £11k difference between the two and thats with a little bit of spec added to the M3 (which is what I have just ordered). Audi were not interested in offering a serious discount, but I managed a decent one from BMW. Ultimately the RS3 will start to be offered with decent discount and at that time the gap in price may well open up. I nearly did buy the RS3 saloon, but in the end the M3 deal won me over (and the car itself of course)
It’s funny because the rs3 is the mini gtr dragging every car in its path with bolt ons and e85. I haven’t seen bmw do anything but have a sort of fast car stock. That’s where the excitement ends and they all look the exact same and this is coming from a bmw tech. Those Rs3’s are not to play with most of you guys don’t race or hit the streets. They eat trackhawks off the dig and just keep going. A truly amazing car.
It's a stretch to compare these 2 cars. I can't imagine it would be an either or decision for buyers of the Audi or the BMW as they're not really price comparative. Most cars, including this RS3, get stupid expensive when all the option boxes are ticked.
Very true of the CLA 45s AMG starts at over 60k the XDrive M3 starts at over £77k and canbeasily hit 90k with lots of options so yiu really have to question the motives and politics behind Autocars ridiculous comparison
Jesus christ yet again someone else is wrong - The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
We all know it’s not the same class, but ultimately, these are 2 cars that most people would be deciding between. It’s a helpful video in the sense that it justifies why the rs3 is overpriced and why you should just go for the m3 at that price point. Rs3 shouldn’t be more than 50k
Not so sure about that. These cars are putting down 410+ to the wheels on the dyno (near 500 crank). 0-60 in the mid 3's. 1/4 mile in the mid to high 11's. You really think you're going to get an Audi RS that throws down those kind of numbers for less than 50k? Are you talking pounds or US dollars? The M3c with similar options is $90k+ easy. $20,000 price difference. Is ultimate track handling something people need on the street or is straight line, red light to red light performance more important? Something the new M3's have going against them now, IMO, is the interior with the i8 screens, which look absolutely hideous. The M3 has been on my bucket list for decades, but I would cross-shop these two extensively before making a decision.
@@JetDriver77 ya I’m not sure why m3’s are like 90k now. They used to be around 60-80k new. I’m not spending 90k for an m3, Id much rather buy an m340i. Which offers 80-90% of the performance, for 40k less.
@@Viktor9502 you do realize that the m340i has like 120 horsepower less right? That’s not even close to 80-90%. Do you know what the difference 120 horsepower makes? Not to mention the steering, suspension, brakes, interior. It’s nowhere near 90% of the car
between these two cars there is no comparison, M3 all day long, much better car inside and performance wise. And im an audi rs7 c8 owner, previous car was an f90 m5 which i will deffo go back to in next year
As a car novice. This video just proved to me although the RS3 looks and sounds better the M3 Comp is just better in every other department. God willing I get it one day
Was hoping to see a race between these 2 cars. When you buy a RS3 or a M3 you definitely care more about speed and performance, than regular driving about.
There's probably countless track times posted online for these cars, but the reality is majority of owners are not going to race these cars. The occasional track day perhaps but mostly stuck in traffic.
@Alby That's debatable. Not everyone buys a RS3 or M3 xdrive as a daily driver. Many buy them for track days and racing. These cars are high performance saloons. A review in my opinion should cater for all potential buyers. Namely those who will race them and those who will daily drive them.
Wait… stop. I’m sorry but an m3 xdrive competition is NOT in the same price range. 27k difference between base models. Will watch the comparison but it’s not apples for apples.
For 20k less you are getting a much better sound from the 5cil engine (not fake coming out of the speakers as in the m3) The oversteer has been eliminated, so this might seem as a bit biased review. Additionally, for 20k more you are not getting better interior components in the m3, so yes, we’ll see how many of the m3 vs rs3 are sold and numbers will tell something more useful than this review
My last car was an S3. My current car is an M2 Competition, but I just put a deposit down on an RS3. Why? Because I don't agree with these guys. I tried BMW out, but have missed Audi the entire time. The BMW just doesn't seem as solidly put together imho. And the RWD handling is often exaggerated. I actually felt like I could whip around traffic more in my S3 than I can in my M2. The interior was WAY nicer, and the stereo systems can't even be compared. The B&O is infinitely better. (Granted, I know the M3 is a step up in those areas compared to the M2, but still) To each their own, but I'm looking forward to getting back into an Audi and I think this RS3 might be one of their best ever. Definitely going to miss the clutch though.
The M3 XDrive is £25,000 more than the RS3 Saloon… even if it was just the RWD version it’s still £22,500 more 🤔 I’d expect it to outclass the RS3 in pretty much every department too for that money 🤷🏼♂️ very odd video this…
The M3’s supposed competitor, the RS4/RS5, simply doesn’t have the engine to match it. Audi used to have Quattro as an advantage for off-the-line acceleration, but xDrive now negates that, and then some. The RS3’s I5 is their best motor, but I still prefer the legendary straight-six.
how on earth does the rs3 compare to an m3? its like you guys had these two cars available so why not make a narrative to make two different segments compete.....M2 x drive should be the comparison to the rs3. Do a better job guys not a cheap Frankenstein review
Three cars are not comparable and option for option the M3 is way more. The RS5 is what is the direct competitor of the m3. This comparison just goes to show how horrible the journos are here for even setting up this comparison. You literally lost all credibility in the first statement. Why not compare the rs3 to the cla 45 AMG? Granted the Audi isn't the sportiest but this comparo is intentional in showing it in a negative light.
Everyone's moaning but I thought this was actually an interesting comparison. However, just a heads up, I think you guys need to look into the sound editing a bit - there's big differences in quality and volume between presenters and shots, it's frustrating to watch
These are not in the same class RS3 starts at £45-£46k? The M3 is near £30k more Pray you put the new RS5 up against the M3/4 comp and not whatever iteration BMW have dreamt up by then CS blablah the bias is absurd Oh and the R6S IS THE DADDY wagon - period ok? PERIOD
Yes yes aside from the price differential that we're all aware off by now, to all intense and purposes aside from on a track day these two car wouldn't be that far apart..... especially in poor conditions. I mean where are we as normal drivers going to get to the point where we could say "yes, i left that RS3 for dead" i mean really
@@TeacherToolkitDemo those are sold as used not brand new direct from authorised Audi dealers. Those cars are being sold by greedy sales people and foolish buyers not willing to wait the 6+ month for a new car
I’ve always loved the BMW M3! and to be clear in Australia the Audi costs $109k after all duties paid at the higher spec! While the BMW costs $170k at the normal spec! So it’s not even close to compare both in the same category. The Audi is more inline with the M2 car or Mercedes’ AMG45 S BMW at the higher spec costs $203k and that’s still not including the options for the interior trim or wheels option
@@singhr11 100% agree with you! I placed an order for one also. After looking at the M3 it made no sense getting that car for the price they asking for.
A necessary test between these two new 4 wheel drive cars... both fantastic for sure... the price of the RS3 is his biggest rival... for 'some' extra money you are in a different level of quality and performance... the M3/M4. Audi should launch their new A4/A5, versus RS4/RS5 ASAP!
Audi is right at the end of the model extension with the RS5 its been about for years now and it took BMW going X Drive quattro to match the RS5 and slightly best it in some drag tests. Dont know what Audi have planned to replace it and it may not even be ICE based.
Why can’t people see that the 70k price tag for the rs3 is justifiable. There is no more rs3 production and the demand is insane way more than an M3. It just makes sense
Funnily enough, both these cars have been on my radar, I've owned an Audi A4 3.0 quattro and enjoyed it a fair bit (thanks to the optional Sports Diff), but I've also had an M135i and an M4 (F82) and enjoyed them much more. They aren't aimed at the same market, I get that, but you get a feel for what suits you best in a general way. I've long loved the 5 cylinder warble and really do rate the RS3 saloon looks, but in the end the M3 Xdrive won me over and I've got one on order :) I've gone for poverty spec with only £1,500 of options (which I realise is still a huge amount of money however you look at it) and managed to receive a very handsome discount, something that Audi just didn't want to entertain. So for me these two cars are not so far away from each other in cost, strangely enough and the standard spec on the M3 is extremely high in the first place (at least it is in the UK as we only get a well stocked Competition variant as standard). I think it's a valid comparison as it seem to demonstrate, at least in the eyes of the testers, that spending, comparatively speaking, a little more (and taking real world discounts into account) that the M3 on this occasion was the better car to own overall. I suspect my previous M4 would have lost a test against the RS3 as a car that likes to try and kill you on occasion, is not seen a favourable characteristic it appears :D
@@Shane-zx4ps I certainly am. I do work awfully hard though, as I pay for my cars myself and don't get handouts from anyone. As a result, I live in a hovel 😆
@@GeordieAmanda hey Amanda, I’m not judging you, I think your car history and by the sound of things your future cars is a thing to admire to me, long may it last, and by the way Bmw always made better sports cars than Audi/Volkswagen in my opinion. I still have a 2005 E46 M3 for my weekend blasts and I have a Audi A8 3 litre for my daily..
@@Shane-zx4ps I didn't think you were judging me, wanted to give credence to my car choice. It might seem that I found it easy to afford an expensive car, so naturally went for the more decadent option, but this isn't the case and I feel every one of those extra pounds that the M3 costs. I've had some great cars, but many of the early ones were second-hand Fiats (Strada 130TC, Fiat X1/9 and Lancia Beat Couple were all fabulous if incredibly rusty).
Where were these presenters taken from, Classic FM? I'm not saying you have to be as boisterous as Mat Watson but show a bit of enthusiasm... I could barely
There is misting in the left headlight of the BMW M3 at 3:03. Hmmm... Anyway, we all know this should be an M3 xDrive vs RS5. BMW would win of course, because of that balance that RWD chassis offers, but it would be more interesting nonetheless.
Terribly boring review. Nothing achieved, no real performance stats. Pointless, won't bother again. Plenty much better, more informative reviews, thank god.
I don't think that is as much a fore gone conclusion as you may think, having now driven one, its mightily impressive and actually brilliant fun pushing on in mid wales.
Indeed, but even then, they aren’t direct rivals. If the S3 competes with the M235i Gran Coupé and the A35/CLA35 AMG, the RS3 would compete with the CLA45 AMG. As much as I didn’t like the 2 series Gran Coupé, i actually really enjoyed driving it and it got me thinking what it would be like if they made an M2 Gran Coupé. Not sure how an inline 6 would fit, but it would be a proper competitor for the RS3 and definitely more so than the M2 is. At least the M2 Comp.
@@acocietoo4372 LOL what nonsense is this. Theres no way a stock RS3 can do 7.35. If so I'm guessing Audi put one on cup 2 tyres with a pro driver, gave it an ECU tune, took the rear seats out etc etc. Il have to have a look. The understeer is disgusting. That's why no one tracks them. They have a nice engine that's it.
@@acocietoo4372 i just checked and it did 7.41. So I don't know where you got that crack pot time from. And I don't even know if that was a full lap. And it was perfect conditions on cup 2 tyres. The M2 CS on cup 2 tyres will go faster than that and that's the old platform.
M3xdrive is definitely the way to go and it comes from someone who owns an Audi rs3.I opted for Audi simply (as lot of people in my situation) because of the daily driving because unfortunately where I live the roads are a disaster and we have weather conditions (rain/snow) so the RWD is a disaster on trip. Audi is notoriously expensive on options,unfortunately you have to take because the basic version looks like crap. yeah,the 5-cyl engine sounds fantastic but if you are in to "sporty" driving experience bmw is far more superior.
I agree living in Ohio, Audi was charging 10k over msrp for the rs3 in late 2022. I paid sticker for my 2023 m3 comp xdrive. I couldn’t be happier, unless my c8 z06 comes in soon 😉
@@OneTwoThreePunchdon’t pay over sticker for z06. They’re ramping up production for the z and car market is going down. Some dealers even had stingray c8 for 3k under msrp lol
Your spec on the 0-60mph for the M3 X drive version is incorrect. You quoted time is applicable to the M3 Competition. Please ensure your specs are correct before publishing!
Well. That’s the slowest, most boring test of the RS3 I’ve seen so far. I just couldn’t get past the sweater to be honest. I wondered if it was a joke video for a while.
I own a 2018 RS3 and I have also test driven the 2023 M3C. The M3 is obliviously much more refined in many ways as you would expect and packs a good punch. What turned me off of the M3 was simply it felt heavier, a little too large for my needs, the lack of sound from the exhaust and the front end styling. Having said all this, I would consider the BMW next time around but more in the M2 size category. It seems like the new BMW 3 series cars have gotten much larger than years gone past.
Yeahh all the newer cars just too heavy and large. I don’t like big heavy cars either, that’s why I’m keeping my f80 for a while longer lol. 3580 pounds and ~600 crank hp not bad 😂
Please spend at least 5 min next time, before comparing them on prices. M3 in top trim costs more than 100k vs RS3 65k. Such a weird comparison.
Autocar are also known as the Bavarian Gazzette
Its like no one in the comment section can use the internet. The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
Exactly this! I ordered an RS3 Back in October, Carbon addition with options, price was £56k, at £78k upwards for the M3 I would have gone with my at the time alternative choice Porsche.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo If you'd done your research properly, you'd have found that those prices are cheeky people trying to resell 'launch edition' RS3's for far more than they paid for it, just because there's a lot of covid-related demand at the moment. To order new, the RS3 is just as they stated - between £52 - £65Kish. Do better homework next time.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo you’re really going under everyone’s comment spewing that same garbage? 😂😂
Looking forward to your next comparison guys, is the BMW 760 a better car than the A3? Lol
@963 Plug as long as they have a few similarities it seems ok to compare them, price difference is apparently irrelevant also
@@knight2425 have U seen the dealer mark up on 2022 rs3s practically the same price as the m3
@@chamaldealwis9 the mark up you mention is the Launch Edition that dealers have sourced and are selling for crazy mark up cause people are crazy enough to pay that instead of waiting, go order one and find the correct price. If you watch the video they even tell you the one they are driving is 60,000 and that M3 is from 78,000 to mid 80s so your price figures are wrong
@@chamaldealwis9 The 2022 RS5 would be the correct match for the M3.
£70k is ridiculous price for a RS3.
Autocar: We're on a public road which means I can't do any more than 60 miles an hour.
Also Autocar: Go and buy this 180mph carbon-ceramic braked sports saloon, it's great!
These are NOT direct rivals. The new M2 Xdrive is the rival to the RS3 and the RS4/5 is the rival to the M3/4 Xdrive.
Jesus the M2 will absolutely destroy this poor excuse of an RS model. The M2 will be better than the M3.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo The new 2 series is hideous
Yes an no though.
What is BMWs competitor to the RS3 Sportback…? The M135i 😂
Cool car but different leave.
RS3 saloon, maybe the 2 series Gran Coupe 🤮 is the rival.
It’s interesting that for once they’re not really stepping on each other toes.
BMW goes hyper with a Coupe M2, Audi does the hyper hatch and mini saloon.
@963 Plug there will be in the new platform.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo These type of comments are so cringe and the most embarrassing thing about car culture. Who is destroying who? Unless you're a bona fide race car driver; performance numbers count for very little to the average driver.
From the moment I saw Saunders, I knew this was going to be a trash review, and I was right.
@@goodlife39 with grammar like yours, I wouldn’t be drawing attention to other people’s intelligence levels.
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Gotta say m3 is in a completely different league to the rs3 and I think the rs3 is overpriced for what you get ! It's just got a fantastic motor in it the rest of the car is quite ordinary ,
Especially if you're referring to the RS3 hatchback. The pricing completely misses the point of what a hot hatch is meant to be. I guess the A45s has company in that sense.
Bmw is the ugliest of them all 😂😂😂
@@Muzix2daEarz yea but that is just your subjective opinion. I didn't think they looked that nice until a neighbour got one and they look awesome in real life and as a drivers car, wipe the floor with the competition
@@Muzix2daEarz We’ll still go for “ugly” over nondescript and forgettable!
@@Muzix2daEarz what are are you interested about. These new Beemers look like weapons!! And has the performance to match!
A bit disingenuous really. A basic RS3 (Which is all you need) is at a very different price point
The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo @TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@@stopp23 lol these Audi fangirl tears are delicious 😋 . This is a UK show. And at the time this video has been released you can buy an M3/M4 2021 cheaper than a 2021 Audi RS3. And it's not even close which one is better. A stage 1 remap on the BMW gives over 700bhp. Only a complete idiot would buy that Audi over that stonking S58. And learn how to use the Internet and basic economics.
So a stage 1 ecu remap adds over 200bhp does it? Lmao in what world is that ever the case. I’ve driven both and the M3 granted it was RWD didn’t feel barely any quicker
@@stopp23 I love the fact that you’re trolling this troll/BMW fanboy 😂
How can you compare these cars? M3 is about 25k more?
It's what they could get and now you have something to watch and comment on
Real world pricing is closer than you think. High prices on rs3 due to limited supply and Bmw dealers discounting stock g80s hard because they aren’t selling
Exactly. Muppets at Autocar
@@davidknell9676 this
And it is not 25k better.
Well that was the most obvious, disingenuous piece of hatchet job motoring "journalism" I have watched in a long time. These two clowns and their year five editorial team must have been on Audi aversion therapy for a week before scripting this nonesense. Any semblance of credibility they had left was just completely trashed. What's your next episode 🤔 Challenger Tank vs Audi Q8 on Salisbury plain perhaps?
🤣🤣🤣👏🏽👏🏽its just ridiculous really🙈🙄
I just switched from the 8V RS3 to the new G80 M3C RWD and they're different leagues of car. I still miss my RS3 as its smaller and more my style ... so the 8Y is on order but I'm glad I tried the G80 M3C and its definitely a special car, torque and power all across the powerband. Thank you for the video!
Which car feels faster and more fun in real day to day driving?
@@6820berlin stock for stock, G80 M3, tuned and exhaust ... RS3. I do have a 8Y RS3 now and I wanted to go with an M3 but decided otherwise for the time being.
@@SchwaboChannel Hows the 8y rs3 interior, I was considering getting one
@@shamialchaudhry1640 interior is great, but the head unit is a little funky ... gets stuck with carplay at times. But overall the fit and finish are great, much better than 8V!
@@SchwaboChannelmy 2022 rs3 warranty is ending next year so i’ve been looking for other awd performance cars as my new daily. i love the rs3 so much that i waited for the 2025 facelift. sad to say, the facelift is a disappointment and now i’m stuck on either ordering a 2024 rs3 or 2025 g80 comp. what would you say are the biggest differences between the two in general?
The RS3 rides and looks way better than The m3! It’s awesome 40 mpg mileage makes it even more compelling. They fail to mention None of the above
Because you’re pulling this out your ass 😂 rs3 def isn’t riding better than the m3. It isn’t outperforming it either
These cars are getting far too expensive.
Isn't everything?
Pretty much mate. I have a golf r and it nearly cost £80 to fill it. 99 octane of course.
@@stichupman yep
It's getting pretty bad out there fuel, food, clothes I dunno
@@sugarsaint tell me about it mate my has and electric has doubled since my last tariff.
All cars a getting too expensive 😪
You would also compare it to c63 amg (because this is rival for m3) ? No, because it’s rival for a45s not c63 so why on earth do You do this comparison ? Price difference between them is normal price difference between two segments not sure what You have been trying to tell in this material… and if You look on the comments i’m not the only who thinks like that.
Never thought of this comparison ......I always thought of the M3 vs RS4 comparison
Agreed! Seems a bit harsh on the RS3 being compared against the M3
Probably because this larest RS3 would murder a RWD M3 competition. Xdrive was the only way to make the car competitive.
@@Gez492 No it wouldn't. They're not drag racing the cars, they're picking which one is better to drive and live with. So RWD and drive M3s would both murder RS3 and RS4.
this video looks like an excuse to pick on the rs3, maybe its just my imagination
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Mmmmmmarketing
No imagination here! You are 100% correct! Everything they spoke about, the m3 was just better in their opinion🙄 biased much
Sorry guys, I agree that the M3 is the better car. Anyway, I ordered an RS3 Sportback with a “decent” spec and, with dealer discount, I paid it 65k€ (will have to wait until June…). Before I was looking for an M3 RWD and, with dealer discount again, I couldn’t go below 95k€. So 30k€ is quite a gap. Here in Italy the situation is like this, I do not know in GB :)
Yup have a lease incoming RS3 at £5k plus £480 month. M3 is £10k £800 bonkers
The price gap is very similar which makes Autocar pathetic hatchet job look all the more ridiculous
@@cpandsooz I feel like car reviewers should generally analyze the market before making these kind of statements. List price ist always quite different to the real world price, which is at the end what matters for us :) Anyway, congrats! Hope we can enjoy our RS 3 soon.
Bunch of peasants.
Funny because one year later, used m3 comp selling for same or lower price than the used second gen rs3 in America.
Autocar this has to be the lamest comparison that I’ve ever seen you do. Damn straight the M3 better feel more special, it’s 20k more!! As for the Audi, if you know how to drive an AWD car with some short lag, you will have “just as much” fun in it, LOL.
yes I confirm that but when you look at a used one they are kinda the same tbh also I noticed the M sport cars hold their Value better than RS sports cars
As long as Audi makes the drive train front wheel biased it'll always be cleaning up BMW's table scraps. Had a B7 RS4 and its engine was glorious, but it still wanted to push because that V8 hung halfway in from of the axle. The RS3 doesn't have this issue but this front biased nonsense for a performance car is just not a lot of fun for the driver despite clever electronics. BMW's driving dynamics have always been leaps and bounds above Audi's having owned both RS and M cars imo, but you're right on the price point. The better direct comparison would be the M2C which is a better performance car as well over any RS saloon, avant or coupe(R8 not with standing).
So so lazy this comparison. Completely down playing the rs3. The torque rear mode is breaking boundaries.
@@olliejackson762 straight bias review
They absolutely do not. 2018 RS’s are still going for 90-95% of MSRP. 1 year old M cars are losing much more value (even though I think M cars are superior)
Pointless comparison.
M3 is against RS4 and C63
M2 (though not saloon) is against RS3 and A45
It will be the same story with the M2 it will retain the same s58 motor as the m3 and xdrive drivetrain albeit with less hp
Not sure why everyone's upset in the comments saying the cars aren't in the same class. I searched for this exact comparison. The lack of availability for the RS3 combined with the people that overpaid and saturated the m3 market selling for xdrive/ to save equity has them nearly overlapping on price in the states. (5-10k difference tops)
This review gave me every answer I was looking for as a former R owner that knows mqb understeer / turbo lag well👍🏾
“The BMW feels a bit more special”? Are you a professional journalist or car reviewer? Whatever way it’s cut this ‘test’ is a joke. There are young guys out there in RUclips with no budget and filming on an iPhone creating more relatable content.
A standard RS3 Saloon starts at a touch over £53k the Cheapest M3 Competition XDrive starts at £78.5k. £25k is a boot load of cash in anyone's book. Personally I'd save the cash and have a Standard RS3 Saloon in Tango Red. Looks way better, Sounds better. Smaller. Job done..
Exactly, what a stupid comparisson.
I think because car prices have gone up so much in recent times its easier to justify comparing cars that are 50k to 70k. It wont be long before the golf R gets compared to the RS3 and so on....
Lol WRONG - The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo @TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@ Paul N looks better is subjective and an RS3 for me is aimed at the under the under 30yr olds.
What a ridiculous review, these cars are £25k-£30k apart! They talk about the RS3 with all the options ticked and compare it to a base price M3. Tick the options on the BMW and you’re paying over a £100k for a 3 series which will probably have the fastest facelift in history with a front looking like that.
Joke mate. Moronic conparison
Yet again - The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
Yes…because cars flipped on auto trader in launch month IS the barometer of pricing 😂😂😂😂😂
Or maybe not.
They talk about the new list prices in the video. The auto trader prices are irrelevant. The price of the M3 when it first came out was also heavily inflated!
All you need to know about this review is the skewed price comparison at the beginning sets the tone for the rest of the review.
The RS3 starts at £53k and the max I could spec one to was £65k whilst the M3 comp starts at £75k and the max I could spec to was £99k. So not even remotely close like you are lead to believe.
So what could have been a fun review turns into some sort of massive reach for how these two cars are rivals on the price front which they actually aren’t at all and continues on from there with the usual cliches.
Matt is a great reviewer/writer/editor but this is poor, I’d expect this from influencer type RUclipsrs not a professional.
The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo Auto trader jacked the prices up didn’t they as nobody can get them cars now unless waiting to June 2022!
@@KainSwiss Supply and demand kids. The bottom line is the Audi RS3 is as expe size as the M3. There's a reason none are up for sale because no one is stupid enough to buy one.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo As you’ve already nullified your own point by pointing out supply and demand is the reason for the inflated price then I don’t need to explain to you why it’s more expensive on auto trader. If someone is stupid enough to pay over the odds for a car to get it 6 months earlier that’s their issue, my original observation still stands.
Come on, is it April 1st already? That M3 is what, £20k or even £30k more than the RS3 when optioned up. In fact, fully optioned that BMW is nudging £100k and a fully optioned RS3 around £66k . Massive difference. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
Just about as expensive as that??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
RS3 From £51k
M3 XDrive from £78k
If £27k is nearly the same price then WTF.
I’m sorry I know you CAN spec the RS3 with silly options but it’s AT LEAST £15-20k difference.
Tsk Tsk Autocar bias
M3 XDrive Vs a £110k C4GTS then hmmmm fair 🤡🤯🧐
Agree though an M3 is better than the RS3 saloon. How about the RS3 Sportback vs an M135i?
RS3 goes against the M2. The M2 is a much better car. The old M140i with basic mods is as good as the Audi. Infact for the same money as the RS3 you could buy an M140i, slap some pure turbos on it, get the best suspension and tyres money can buy and it would be a better, faster and cheaper car lol. And HD have a deposit for a house left over.
Just the looks would swerve me to the Audi over the BMW but in all honesty theses cars are not in the same category and the Audi wasn’t aimed at competing against the M3 anyway. I got the feeling the video was pretty biased all the way through towards the BMW which like I said is not in the same league anyway so pretty inaccurate to compare them against each other and maybe also a couple of inaccurate comments in here as I think he said plastic paddles in the Audi where as every other review I heard they were in fact metal.
The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo @TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo The RS3 and M3 are not in the same league so comparing them is like comparing apples to eggs and you need to check your prices also as that M3 is in a higher price bracket also, perhaps you go check. Throw that M3 and that RS3 up against cars more in their league and give us a review as it would be more beneficial but just because they are both all wheel drive doesn’t mean they are
@@knight2425 RS3 is closer to M3 than M2 to RS3 :D
@@knight2425 I don't need to check anything. I just told you where to look. You can't buy an RS3 for cheaper than the price stated above. And the most expensive is £80k.
Another tragic and useless reviews by Autocar. I detest Audi, but the RS3 is a rival to an M2 when it returns.
The new Ms are such porkers. I don't image they'll be remembered with fondness in years to come.
I’m surprised they didn’t pitch the M2 against the RS3
For sure, if you want to buy a good M car best get looking in the history books. If you want a massively heavy and powerful car...just skip the current M cars and get a Tesla.
@@kevin-l7r7p indeed, I sold my M2 and went with a Tesla M3P two years ago.
It's a massive compliment to the Audi that it even gets compared to the bigger pricier competitor.
Not really. It gets compared to an M3, which is clearly the better car, purely because Audi have priced well beyond hot-hatch territory.
@@gw7624 they aren’t any pricier than BMW m2 (especially the competition and the cs) and the amg 45 amg
Not when said car is based on the same platform as a VW Golf and costs more than 65K.
@@gw7624 IMO RS3 wins until it have drift mode that make it just as fun as M3 and have better engine with better potential.
And the biggest issue for M3... It is hideous!
@@stopp23 Drift mode isn't going to make a front-biased car more fun than an M3, and the RS3's engine doesn't have better potential than the M3's. Styling wise, neither car is pretty, but I'd take the one with the obviously-RWD proportions.
Realistically is a 60k car against a 80+k car 🤷
If you max spec an RS3 and an M3, there's a £30k difference. The Audi to compare to the M3 is the RS5 or a base 911, NOT an RS3 FFS.
In my experience and taking discounts into account there is roughly only £11k difference between the two and thats with a little bit of spec added to the M3 (which is what I have just ordered). Audi were not interested in offering a serious discount, but I managed a decent one from BMW. Ultimately the RS3 will start to be offered with decent discount and at that time the gap in price may well open up. I nearly did buy the RS3 saloon, but in the end the M3 deal won me over (and the car itself of course)
It’s funny because the rs3 is the mini gtr dragging every car in its path with bolt ons and e85. I haven’t seen bmw do anything but have a sort of fast car stock. That’s where the excitement ends and they all look the exact same and this is coming from a bmw tech. Those Rs3’s are not to play with most of you guys don’t race or hit the streets. They eat trackhawks off the dig and just keep going. A truly amazing car.
It's a stretch to compare these 2 cars. I can't imagine it would be an either or decision for buyers of the Audi or the BMW as they're not really price comparative. Most cars, including this RS3, get stupid expensive when all the option boxes are ticked.
Very true of the CLA 45s AMG starts at over 60k the XDrive M3 starts at over £77k and canbeasily hit 90k with lots of options so yiu really have to question the motives and politics behind Autocars ridiculous comparison
@@Gez492 More Audi tears. Delicious 😋
@@TeacherToolkitDemo nonsense... M3 compares to the RS4/5. if you don't know that then you don't know cars
Now you can get used m3 comp for cheaper than used 2nd gen rs3 lol. Makes that rs3 a real hard sell
Totally different class. There is no point comparing them. It would be nice of you could compare the price of same speced cars
Next comparison: BMW 1 series vs Mercedes S class
Jesus christ yet again someone else is wrong - The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo @TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo Jesus Christ... you're the wrong one yet again.
We all know it’s not the same class, but ultimately, these are 2 cars that most people would be deciding between. It’s a helpful video in the sense that it justifies why the rs3 is overpriced and why you should just go for the m3 at that price point. Rs3 shouldn’t be more than 50k
Not so sure about that. These cars are putting down 410+ to the wheels on the dyno (near 500 crank). 0-60 in the mid 3's. 1/4 mile in the mid to high 11's. You really think you're going to get an Audi RS that throws down those kind of numbers for less than 50k? Are you talking pounds or US dollars? The M3c with similar options is $90k+ easy. $20,000 price difference. Is ultimate track handling something people need on the street or is straight line, red light to red light performance more important? Something the new M3's have going against them now, IMO, is the interior with the i8 screens, which look absolutely hideous. The M3 has been on my bucket list for decades, but I would cross-shop these two extensively before making a decision.
@@JetDriver77 ya I’m not sure why m3’s are like 90k now. They used to be around 60-80k new. I’m not spending 90k for an m3, Id much rather buy an m340i. Which offers 80-90% of the performance, for 40k less.
@@Viktor9502 you do realize that the m340i has like 120 horsepower less right? That’s not even close to 80-90%. Do you know what the difference 120 horsepower makes? Not to mention the steering, suspension, brakes, interior. It’s nowhere near 90% of the car
This is like comparing the M5 Comp against RS4.
between these two cars there is no comparison, M3 all day long, much better car inside and performance wise. And im an audi rs7 c8 owner, previous car was an f90 m5 which i will deffo go back to in next year
M3 vs RS3?!?! Shouldn't it be M3 vs RS4? Apples and oranges as you've put it together. Shame
RS4 is wagon only but you're right.
I think more like RS5 Sportback. But I dont think the RS5 has much to offer outside of looks
@@zhaoyangxie Still not a direct competitor but that's the closest rival to the M3 that Audi offers.
What a load of bullshit comparing 2 cars which are 20-25k apart. What a bias. Unsubscribed.
BMW is overrated and overpriced . RS3 have everything I want.
Don’t think these guys agree 😂
Clear BMW preference from both. Also, the cars are not comparable.
As a car novice. This video just proved to me although the RS3 looks and sounds better the M3 Comp is just better in every other department. God willing I get it one day
RS5: hello?
Yeah, RS5 Sportback should be compared to the M3 until a M4 Gran Coupé arrives.
Was hoping to see a race between these 2 cars. When you buy a RS3 or a M3 you definitely care more about speed and performance, than regular driving about.
There's probably countless track times posted online for these cars, but the reality is majority of owners are not going to race these cars. The occasional track day perhaps but mostly stuck in traffic.
@Alby That's debatable. Not everyone buys a RS3 or M3 xdrive as a daily driver. Many buy them for track days and racing. These cars are high performance saloons. A review in my opinion should cater for all potential buyers. Namely those who will race them and those who will daily drive them.
@@leadslinger That's fair enough. I'd lean towards the RS3 on tighter tracks, and the the M3 for longer straights.
@@Alby911 you see gonoh the
@@Alby911you’re wrong lol the m3 mops the floor with Audi on the track and in straight lines. 12 seconds faster on Nurburgring.
Wait… stop. I’m sorry but an m3 xdrive competition is NOT in the same price range. 27k difference between base models. Will watch the comparison but it’s not apples for apples.
For 20k less you are getting a much better sound from the 5cil engine (not fake coming out of the speakers as in the m3)
The oversteer has been eliminated, so this might seem as a bit biased review. Additionally, for 20k more you are not getting better interior components in the m3, so yes, we’ll see how many of the m3 vs rs3 are sold and numbers will tell something more useful than this review
My last car was an S3. My current car is an M2 Competition, but I just put a deposit down on an RS3. Why? Because I don't agree with these guys. I tried BMW out, but have missed Audi the entire time. The BMW just doesn't seem as solidly put together imho. And the RWD handling is often exaggerated. I actually felt like I could whip around traffic more in my S3 than I can in my M2. The interior was WAY nicer, and the stereo systems can't even be compared. The B&O is infinitely better. (Granted, I know the M3 is a step up in those areas compared to the M2, but still)
To each their own, but I'm looking forward to getting back into an Audi and I think this RS3 might be one of their best ever. Definitely going to miss the clutch though.
The M3 XDrive is £25,000 more than the RS3 Saloon… even if it was just the RWD version it’s still £22,500 more 🤔 I’d expect it to outclass the RS3 in pretty much every department too for that money 🤷🏼♂️ very odd video this…
The M3’s supposed competitor, the RS4/RS5, simply doesn’t have the engine to match it. Audi used to have Quattro as an advantage for off-the-line acceleration, but xDrive now negates that, and then some. The RS3’s I5 is their best motor, but I still prefer the legendary straight-six.
Pointless "review". It s like saying that crashbatten is a worldchampion 🤣🤣
how on earth does the rs3 compare to an m3? its like you guys had these two cars available so why not make a narrative to make two different segments compete.....M2 x drive should be the comparison to the rs3. Do a better job guys not a cheap Frankenstein review
Three cars are not comparable and option for option the M3 is way more. The RS5 is what is the direct competitor of the m3. This comparison just goes to show how horrible the journos are here for even setting up this comparison. You literally lost all credibility in the first statement. Why not compare the rs3 to the cla 45 AMG? Granted the Audi isn't the sportiest but this comparo is intentional in showing it in a negative light.
Everyone's moaning but I thought this was actually an interesting comparison. However, just a heads up, I think you guys need to look into the sound editing a bit - there's big differences in quality and volume between presenters and shots, it's frustrating to watch
RS4 is s direct competitor to M3, I am quite pleased you didn't compare Audi A1 with M3..BMW biased review.
RS3 is a beast 🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪
no dig race? roll race? what a waste of time.
I'm a BMW fanboy, but i think the orange-sweatered guy made the Audi look small by raising the seat up and bringing it forward as if it was a city car
These are not in the same class RS3 starts at £45-£46k? The M3 is near £30k more
Pray you put the new RS5 up against the M3/4 comp and not whatever iteration BMW have dreamt up by then CS blablah the bias is absurd
Oh and the R6S IS THE DADDY wagon - period ok? PERIOD
I think that the RS5 should have had that Audi 5 cylinder. That engine would help that car.
Yes yes aside from the price differential that we're all aware off by now, to all intense and purposes aside from on a track day these two car wouldn't be that far apart..... especially in poor conditions.
I mean where are we as normal drivers going to get to the point where we could say "yes, i left that RS3 for dead" i mean really
The cheapest RS3 Saloon on Autotrader 2021 is £68489 and the most expensive is £79 995. So yea its more expensive than you say. Go check.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo @TeacherToolkitDemo audi uk site don't lie like you bmw m0r0n...
RS3 saloon starts at 53,345.00 GBP.
Deal with it.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo those are sold as used not brand new direct from authorised Audi dealers.
Those cars are being sold by greedy sales people and foolish buyers not willing to wait the 6+ month for a new car
The only comparison to be done is a drag race. Guess what, it is not in this video. What a waste of time.
I’ve always loved the BMW M3! and to be clear in Australia the Audi costs $109k after all duties paid at the higher spec! While the BMW costs $170k at the normal spec! So it’s not even close to compare both in the same category. The Audi is more inline with the M2 car or Mercedes’ AMG45 S
BMW at the higher spec costs $203k and that’s still not including the options for the interior trim or wheels option
RS3 is much better value in Aus - placed an order for one instead of an M3 which seemed dull to drive and too fast for our roads
@@singhr11 100% agree with you! I placed an order for one also. After looking at the M3 it made no sense getting that car for the price they asking for.
@@the___truth8038 I don’t get what you just said? The Audi car is a much better car than the Mercedes’ Benz. But they are more similar set up
Another BIAS review from Autocar 🙈
Guys guys, they both have a 3 in their name so obviously they are a good comparison.
rs3 has both port and direct injection whereas the M3 has direct only, something to consider
I gotta dream higher.
The M3 is a better car but it’s hideous so I couldn’t own one.
Would only look at the RS3 as a hatchback
A necessary test between these two new 4 wheel drive cars... both fantastic for sure... the price of the RS3 is his biggest rival... for 'some' extra money you are in a different level of quality and performance... the M3/M4.
Audi should launch their new A4/A5, versus RS4/RS5 ASAP!
Audi is right at the end of the model extension with the RS5 its been about for years now and it took BMW going X Drive quattro to match the RS5 and slightly best it in some drag tests. Dont know what Audi have planned to replace it and it may not even be ICE based.
@@Gez492 the new A4 is currently getting tested and there are spy shots out and the RS4/RS5 is already confirmed to have a hybrid 2.9TT V6
Why can’t people see that the 70k price tag for the rs3 is justifiable. There is no more rs3 production and the demand is insane way more than an M3. It just makes sense
Not in same group class. Unless I’m wrong
Funnily enough, both these cars have been on my radar, I've owned an Audi A4 3.0 quattro and enjoyed it a fair bit (thanks to the optional Sports Diff), but I've also had an M135i and an M4 (F82) and enjoyed them much more. They aren't aimed at the same market, I get that, but you get a feel for what suits you best in a general way. I've long loved the 5 cylinder warble and really do rate the RS3 saloon looks, but in the end the M3 Xdrive won me over and I've got one on order :) I've gone for poverty spec with only £1,500 of options (which I realise is still a huge amount of money however you look at it) and managed to receive a very handsome discount, something that Audi just didn't want to entertain. So for me these two cars are not so far away from each other in cost, strangely enough and the standard spec on the M3 is extremely high in the first place (at least it is in the UK as we only get a well stocked Competition variant as standard). I think it's a valid comparison as it seem to demonstrate, at least in the eyes of the testers, that spending, comparatively speaking, a little more (and taking real world discounts into account) that the M3 on this occasion was the better car to own overall. I suspect my previous M4 would have lost a test against the RS3 as a car that likes to try and kill you on occasion, is not seen a favourable characteristic it appears :D
Your a lucky 🍀 girl Amanda 👍
@@Shane-zx4ps I certainly am. I do work awfully hard though, as I pay for my cars myself and don't get handouts from anyone. As a result, I live in a hovel 😆
@@GeordieAmanda hey Amanda, I’m not judging you, I think your car history and by the sound of things your future cars is a thing to admire to me, long may it last, and by the way Bmw always made better sports cars than Audi/Volkswagen in my opinion. I still have a 2005 E46 M3 for my weekend blasts and I have a Audi A8 3 litre for my daily..
@@Shane-zx4ps I didn't think you were judging me, wanted to give credence to my car choice. It might seem that I found it easy to afford an expensive car, so naturally went for the more decadent option, but this isn't the case and I feel every one of those extra pounds that the M3 costs. I've had some great cars, but many of the early ones were second-hand Fiats (Strada 130TC, Fiat X1/9 and Lancia Beat Couple were all fabulous if incredibly rusty).
@@GeordieAmanda you dont need a car, you need to get laid 😂
Only 78 mid 80's..... ONLY??? Crazy world we live in.
How is a base price of £12k more than a fully specced RS3 "in the same region"???
Where were these presenters taken from, Classic FM? I'm not saying you have to be as boisterous as Mat Watson but show a bit of enthusiasm... I could barely
great comparison of apples and robots!
There is misting in the left headlight of the BMW M3 at 3:03. Hmmm...
Anyway, we all know this should be an M3 xDrive vs RS5. BMW would win of course, because of that balance that RWD chassis offers, but it would be more interesting nonetheless.
Terribly boring review. Nothing achieved, no real performance stats. Pointless, won't bother again. Plenty much better, more informative reviews, thank god.
I’m sorry but @06:15 how are you holding the steering wheel with your left hand ???
Canceled my order for the new RS3 and put a deposit on the g80 xdrive m3 after seeing this review.
How can you make these two cars so boring in this video ! Wow
Totally different cars and big price difference if you start speccing that M3. Other than that, very boring to watch...
RS3 is M2 class, not M3/4. It would still lose to the M2 if you're after chassis dynamics, but it would be a fairer comparison.
I don't think that is as much a fore gone conclusion as you may think, having now driven one, its mightily impressive and actually brilliant fun pushing on in mid wales.
Indeed, but even then, they aren’t direct rivals.
If the S3 competes with the M235i Gran Coupé and the A35/CLA35 AMG, the RS3 would compete with the CLA45 AMG. As much as I didn’t like the 2 series Gran Coupé, i actually really enjoyed driving it and it got me thinking what it would be like if they made an M2 Gran Coupé. Not sure how an inline 6 would fit, but it would be a proper competitor for the RS3 and definitely more so than the M2 is. At least the M2 Comp.
RS3 just kills M2 at Nurburgring.
7:35.5 even for M2 CS is out of it range.
Audi did an amazing job with the new RS3.
@@acocietoo4372 LOL what nonsense is this. Theres no way a stock RS3 can do 7.35. If so I'm guessing Audi put one on cup 2 tyres with a pro driver, gave it an ECU tune, took the rear seats out etc etc. Il have to have a look. The understeer is disgusting. That's why no one tracks them. They have a nice engine that's it.
@@acocietoo4372 i just checked and it did 7.41. So I don't know where you got that crack pot time from. And I don't even know if that was a full lap. And it was perfect conditions on cup 2 tyres. The M2 CS on cup 2 tyres will go faster than that and that's the old platform.
Well the engine sound through the speaker certainly helps the M3 sound sweet 🤔
In NZ these are nowhere near in price. The M3 competition while very nice is >50% more
Try turning all the traction control off in drift mode, might change his mind about the rear wheel drive ability…just watch the hedgerows though
M3xdrive is definitely the way to go and it comes from someone who owns an Audi rs3.I opted for Audi simply (as lot of people in my situation) because of the daily driving because unfortunately where I live the roads are a disaster and we have weather conditions (rain/snow) so the RWD is a disaster on trip. Audi is notoriously expensive on options,unfortunately you have to take because the basic version looks like crap. yeah,the 5-cyl engine sounds fantastic but if you are in to "sporty" driving experience bmw is far more superior.
I agree living in Ohio, Audi was charging 10k over msrp for the rs3 in late 2022. I paid sticker for my 2023 m3 comp xdrive. I couldn’t be happier, unless my c8 z06 comes in soon 😉
@@OneTwoThreePunchdon’t pay over sticker for z06. They’re ramping up production for the z and car market is going down. Some dealers even had stingray c8 for 3k under msrp lol
Can an m3 do what a toyota 86 can do?
You won’t drive over 60mph………..
What the hell did I just watch ?lol
As someone in the market for an RS3 why didn't you put it up against an AMG 45S...you know...a competitor!🙄
Hope they are aware there is a difference between 4WD and AWD.
These prices are starting to get……….what’s the word………….ridiculous.
Pls don't park cars in dirty mud
Your spec on the 0-60mph for the M3 X drive version is incorrect. You quoted time is applicable to the M3 Competition. Please ensure your specs are correct before publishing!
Would prefer if they showed more track footage and sprints as that why we spend the money for these cars.
Well. That’s the slowest, most boring test of the RS3 I’ve seen so far. I just couldn’t get past the sweater to be honest. I wondered if it was a joke video for a while.
Iroz turns the rs3 into a monster that motor and trans can make and hold plenty of power
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
M3 x-drive, a no brainer for this kind of weather!
RS3 over M2, but M3 over RS5. RS7 and M5 would be close.
R8 over any Bimmer.
2nd hand M5 comp vs m3 xdrive. Same money, which one is better?
Audi is only better in one way…the sound.
I own a 2018 RS3 and I have also test driven the 2023 M3C. The M3 is obliviously much more refined in many ways as you would expect and packs a good punch. What turned me off of the M3 was simply it felt heavier, a little too large for my needs, the lack of sound from the exhaust and the front end styling. Having said all this, I would consider the BMW next time around but more in the M2 size category. It seems like the new BMW 3 series cars have gotten much larger than years gone past.
Yeahh all the newer cars just too heavy and large. I don’t like big heavy cars either, that’s why I’m keeping my f80 for a while longer lol. 3580 pounds and ~600 crank hp not bad 😂