Installing a tremolo on the Kramer Baretta Special using the TremAlone!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Great piece of kit!! It's very likely someone has already suggested this but here it goes: How about the Tremalone is one single piece (3D printed studs and base) and the holes on top of the studs go all the way, this way, instead of removing the 3D printed studs and drill with a big ass drill bit, you drill with a very small drill bit and the tremalone works as a guide to make sure your holes are perfectly square to the guitar body.
Cheers!!!
I came to say the same thing. 👍🏼
I think your trem jig is really great. The only thing I think might improve it is that you could put a small 1/8 hole through the center of the removable studs. This would give you a more precise centered pilot hole to drill your stud holes.
Just a thought. Great idea. I hope you make a million 😊
I was thinking the same.
It’s not hard to add such a hole, but it is a separate step, and would be a bit fiddly keeping a round, plastic thing stable and intact.
I can think of ways, but I’m getting annoyed imagining the tedium…
I was thinking the same thing.
You can probably easily drill one thru the printed plastic material.
or you could go to harbour freight and get a set of center punches for like $ 20.00 and be very precise, a vex drill bit would also work
You are the definition of not all heroes wear capes, when I am feeling a bit more confident, I will attempt this mod!! Will purchase the temalone.
Tremalone*
I always been puzzled that Floyd Rose didn't come with something like this, or at least a template of sorts... good one!
Good on them! Made us use our brains 😉
It's awesome that he has a Steve Vai influence and I can hear it in what he's playing on the guitar. I love Steve Vai's music.
First of all, you are a GENIUS. The product I got from your Reverb page arrived quickly and works and looks great! This is a great idea here! I'll be watching you. I can't wait to see what you come up with next! Thanks, and keep up the good work!
I used this on my blue Kramer Baretta. I drilled out the bushings carefully. I used a drill press, I'd recommend anyone doing this use a drill press. I also reluctantly routed my body using a compact router. The shims work well, they should be pre-drilled to make it easier. But I'm happy with the install. A machinist can make you hard metal bushings for perfect drilling.
Glad I stayed til the end, that’s some killer Modal stuff!!!
IMPRESSIVE playing! Love your style. Sweet jig. I ordered a Vega bridge and locking tuners for my baretta special in candy blue. If only I’d seen this video earlier. Cheers!
Wow mate your little 3d printed jigs are incredible! Amazing work! If I ever desire to "floyd" a fender one day I will definitely be buying this little setup from you!
Every new guitar that I build, or upgrade, I use the Gotoh 1996t.! I can’t wait to see the next video.!!
Great trem, used it for the first time on this one, but it's a keeper for sure
Excellently thought out but I must suggest something. At 9:00, you are about to remove the two black studs. If these studs were hollow down through in the center, the installer could use a punch (provided of course) to accurately mark the true center. It would eliminate any guesswork and provide the exact location of the center to be drilled.
That's a neat piece of kit you have there. Great innovation.
Nice idea. A few suggestions would be to elongate the mounting holes so you have the option to dial in the scale length. You could also press in some 3mm drill bushings in the pull-out studs so you can start a 3mm pilot hole and know you are drilling dead center.
Agreed. Could have some bushings machined easily to spec as mentioned ensuring perfect alignment. If you want double use your 3D printed studs, add a hole in yours. But for multiple use for a guitar tech I'd use a metallic material.
A great idea to an already great start to a DIY mod!!!
Or everyone could realize this is installed completely wrong and does not function correctly. This is NOT how Floyd Rose tremelo bridges are supposed to be mounted in the body of the guitar.
@@mrbojangles311 how so?
@@davespin9034 Well the thing is, people have been installing Two stud floating Vibratos for about 40 years so there is already proven methods to do it without this. However the previous comment by @mrbojangles311 is referring to most modern installs recessing the bridge into the body rather than surface mounting the bridge.
I have returned my Baretta at Thomann's when I figured out that instead putting $150 more on accessories, I could buy à B-Stock Kramer vintage for the same price ! The Kramer vintage sounds great and has a factory Floyd Rose tremolo and better locks and nuts.
You had me at "Questionable Guitar Mods". 😁
I’ve got one of these on order
Looking forward to doing this to my Barretta
Seems like the easiest method
Honestly, a great idea. The only thing I can think of that might make it even better is including a 12mm disk with a hole in it large enough for a center punch or a small drill bit, so those who aren't using 12mm bushings have a really easy way to mark the center for their drill bit.
Thank you, and yes the new version of this already has the pilot holes
Nice idea. Hope everyone paid attention that this is specific design to work only on this model guitar.
Best part was your playing .. beautiful!
Can't wait to get my Tremalone from you, I am going to modify it slightly and move it back so there is no visible tremolo hole behind the Floyd, maybe 3-5mm, I know it will make the scale slightly longer than 25.5 to maybe 25.75
Better make sure you have enough adjustment on the saddles.
Awesome! Love the Kramer Baretta Special guitars!
These guitars are MUH-NEEEEEE!
Considering it's solid mahogany body and maple neck, all for under $200 buck, it's a modifiers dream
That red Floyd Rose looked bad ass
This was absolutely phenomenal. I honestly think I will try your product.
Very nicely done you made the swap to a Floyd Rose look so simple!
how so he sanded without covering the pickup
@@Good-Enuff-Garagemurder and treason! it's not the end of the world idiot 😭
Fantastic Idea, especially for those that don’t have confidence in their ability to do this kind of upgrade, I have to say though, I really wish you wouldn’t put a bridge and block directly on the front of a brand new guitar with such a beautiful finish 🤣 man I was cringing watching that . 👍🏻
You did an amazing job on this!!
Genius and affordable. Ty
I commend you on a really cool invention for locating the new Tremolo studs but I'm surprised you didn't think to create a router template to perfectly rout the tremolo cavity using a proper router and router bit. It would be easy to print one of those out specially if you figured out how to create and print your first tool. Hope you don't think I'm insulting you, not at all just throwing an idea out in case you didn't already think about it. Routing with a proper template and router will produce a much cleaner cavity and preserve the paint if taped off properly. Love the upgraded Kramer, those guitars kick ass and I really like the tool you created I build guitars and would love to buy one of those! Keep up the great work man!
I want to give this a go one day doesn’t seem too hard and it would make the guitar a million times better
This is a great device to facilitate this conversation. If the plastic fit up studs had a through hole for center punching that would make it even more fool proof.
They do have a hole in the center, thank you
@@QGMODS oh cool. Watched on my phone so I guess I couldn't see on the small screen. 😊
Awesome! Wish I had something like this years ago, when i wanted to replace my trem with a Floyd Rose! Subbed!
you can actually put a piece of a toothpick into the holes for where the neck connects to the body, to make them act "fresh" and strong again.
also I would replace all screws with stainless steel for more sustain.
Worth sticking around for the solo at the end.
That is a great idea! I’ll definitely order some next time I do a floyd swap
That gold trem looks great with that guitar
Should make the temp studs good for pilot drilling so it would be dead center. Then you can use any other drill bit after that
There IS a hole at the top of the studs exactly for this reason, i just yolo'd it :)
DUDE! thanks for this video. Thinking about getting another B Special and do this. Thanks again
I will be buying the 3D printed shims, much easier than shaving the head removing the hump and custom cutting a piece of maple shim. Something everyone should do before installing a floyd style top mounting nut is see how far off center the truss rod access is. My Gotoh nut caused the screw to blow out the wood wall of the truss rod groove. I had to make and glue in a custom bridging piece of wood with an arch to clear the Allen wrench access to the truss rod. This could happen even with this excellent 3D printed shim. As the saying goes, measure twice cut once.
I was crying a bit seeing you remove that wood without even thinking about the dust getting in the pickup, lol.
lol
That purple gold and black look amazing though! I bought the white one with the black headstock.
You need to have an 1/8" starter hole in your black mount screws for the Floyd Rose. To center any of the different size body nuts.
The new version has these. Thank you
I kinda like the pink and gold look
Ordered the Tremalone and the shims!! Can't wait to mod my Baretta!!
thank you!
Suggestion. Make the studs on the Tremalone hollow,(3-5mm). Use the tremalone as your drill guide. Enlarge the holes after removal.
Nice, and the cool ending too ala Vai meets Devin Townsend.
What if you made the mount and studs out of metal? Then all you'd have to do is screw the mount to the body and not have to drill holes for the studs. Maybe even mount springs over the studs so they push the bridge back up. Then all you would need is a stopper on the block and no springs hooked to a claw. Hmmm? 🙂
No way to raise/lower the bridge/action without shimshaping the neck to the strings, lol!
This is great if you already have a Baretta special, but for the price if you did not it might make more sense to just buy a pacer classic (only if you didn't already have the baretta special).
fun fact - jackson js32 now come with this tremalone thingy. never seen it before but its on my new js32.
String height at the nut is not an issue with the shim?
Good Idea though. Like others suggested. A center hole with the plastic studs would be useful.
Nice playing.
i use acetone and Q-tips to get rid of old glue. It's usually CA that's used.
Dude, that thing is awesome 👌
what a great product
okay... this is brilliant...
If you don’t want the chipping on the bottom of the nut heat it up with a heat gun first, then all it takes is one blow to remove it.
Love your playing style
Nice playing at the end!
slick little jig.
Good work! Nice solo at the end, too! I´m subscribed.
1 minute in and I started looking if you are Greek.
Bless the accent
You should just make a kit package to order the complete kit with one click!
Might need to make a disgusting tele build with one of these! Thank you for demoing this!
Beautiful playing, man 🙌
В юности мечтал заиметь гитару "крамер" - мне они казались тогда верхом совершенства. Я стал гораздо старше, теперь мне ближе "стратокастер"😁 Но только бридж чтоб был флойд роуз😆
И да - у этой розовой красотки удивительно приятный сустейн ;) Спасибо за видео.
Love your playing
Those 3D printed shims are genius! Would have saved me some headaches when I was trying to install a floyd on my old LTD. Do you think they'd work ok on other models or just Kramers?
No these shims are just from kramer baretta specials.
Best System ever! Great
This is brilliant!
Seems like if you had just flipped the tremalone where you originally installed it, you'd have avoided removing any wood, and wouldn't be left with such a gap in the back. Perhaps the reason not to do so relates to intonation?
Correct, wood needs to be removed anyway. And the Tremalone has to be where it is.
Cool, original idea!
excellent video....... good Lydian Mode
Great work
Great idea
I so wish this came up on my feed earlier! That nut shim device is genius. Does it also work on Fenders or is it only for Kramer only?
I'm pretty sure it would not work with a Fender; the Kramer Baretta Special uses a Gibson-style nut.
@@King_Kuya Thanks for clarifying!
The stock pickup is hot.
Awesome guitar and video!
thanks!
Wow. I would never sand a new guitar. Maybe a Warmoth body for a parts caster. The tremolo bridges are frustrating compared to Gibson tune-o-matic.
tasty soloing, by the way!
Great video...ive been wanting one of these guitars since they came out.
Rather expensive parts though?
You could get an unbranded trem
@davidvonjohnston or you could get the kramer baretta 84 and save time.
My 2 eldest sons gave me one of these for Christmas a few years ago . Knowing that I'm a big VH fan , they spent quite of money on an airbrush artist to recreate the 5150 guitar . It looks fantastic! However they did not know the importance of having a real trem. I'm absolutely scared to mess up and ruin the guitar and the awesome paint job . This video makes me feel like maybe it can be done . I was wanting the FR detuna tho ... if you see this message , think it will work?
If it has a 74mm stud spacing, it will work for sure.
Great Idea 💡
So nice!, but that gap behind the bridge.. I want to do this, but not sure.. may have to do some filler before painting
i understand, but it's either that or terrible intonation.. so..
@@QGMODS Hey, I just did the same install with the Gotoh. The install went great! But I'm trying to figure out why the Trem pops out very easily if you pull backward on the arm? Still working on a fix, but do you have the same issue? (There seems to be nothing to stop the trem from moving backward and because the stud bolts are beveled instead of flat it can pop out away from the studs)
EDIT: I think my squirrel brain took over LOL. I didn't have the strings on when testing. They should hold the trem from being able to move backward. Ughhh..
Looks cool? The a tion is so good on these neck low and no buzz at all does this raise the Acton more thanks for the vision.
An explanation of the neck shimming process should have been included.
It will be included in part two of the build
I must add a steak knife to my luthiers tools! 😅👊🏻
I would say you could buy a template for like 20 bucks and route out where the floyd goes ,I mean your way probably works ok but if I was going to spend that much time doing this I would just get the template,and your way you can only do dive bombs , I mean my Wolfgang standard is dive only but it's still routed somewhat , and the locking nut is going to be an issue for people that have never done this type of thing because if you mess up where it goes ,new neck anyway I guess if you want to this you can but I would just do it right ,or buy a guitar with a floyd on it
The headstock not having a heel could be a problem.
If those nut shims were brass that would be the way to go
The scale length section lost audio. Should re do the vid and include ALL steps including audio. If you're selling the jig and shelves customers are going to want it all.
Great idea!! What was that loud hum at the end?
Why does it look like your template is sitting at an angle? One would assume the original routing for the trem block would be perpendicular to the center axis of the neck so when your template seems to not line up... It does seem like the template hits the pickup ring so it might have been a good idea to remove the pickup.
It looks like this because you're watching a video, and because the bridge pickup is tilted. the template does not hit the pickup ring, but people that use these often remove them.
That's a great tool you made! Where did you get the red tremolo from? I've been using Jackson jt580 trems which the same as a Floyd pro but way less money! Plus I like the small Allen screws that are just behind the saddles that lock down the string block's instead of going all the way through and out the back like most are
Wow... Amazing. What is that thing you use for the neck shim? is there a template for that?
Cheers
See a need find a solution, good job.
how come you didn't need cavity for the FLoyd ? The stump of the neck must be so thick, maybe ...?
Do not hammer in the studs, this can lead to cracking of the body, you need to press them in.
Already did it out a gohto on it
All of the 1980s Kramer Barettas originally had original Floyd Roses. Too bad some of them don't now.
Very cool, Sir! Is the Floyd dive only like EVH? Or floating?
Slightly floating but mostly goes down